I Solved Into The Pit From Just the Trailers... and books
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
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I mean, we knew from Fazbear Frights that the ball pit isn't time travel but memory travel.
Some people that haven't read the books just assume it is time travel.
Well then not having read through all the books I'd say I was pretty spot on....
One thing I'm confused by the trailer is... there's no unwithered animatronics, only fnaf 1 animatronics. I don't know if this confirms that the first generation of animatronics before the toys means that they looked like the fnaf 1 anaimatronics.
Well these animatronics also have a top row of teeth, something the fnaf 1 animatronics don't have but the withers do!
@@AustinTatious02 Well, the trailer also shows the animatronics without buttons, the withered animatronics do have buttons.
@chopstick3555 that's also true, but we also have environmental details that resemble toy animatronics as well as sister location animatronics. That's why I argue this isn't about time travel, but instead about agony and memory. It helps explain the inconsistencies
@@AustinTatious02 That's a neat way to look at it!
@@chopstick3555 That's what I'm here for!
I've got a fnaf theory about the FNAF 1 location and Phone Guy I'm willing to hand over to anyone, I've been pitching it for years. Interested?
It ties up some loose ends and solves some early installment really well. I just want to see it covered because it's so tight with answers
Yeah, I'd love yo hear it, and if you like I have a theory channel in my discord with others who would be excited to hear!
@@AustinTatious02 Let me set the stage with a fact. FNAF 1's location is the ONLY time in the whole series where Guards being murdered at night by animatronics was a regular occurrence. It's easy to forget that as it was the first game in the series, but it's true.
FNAF 2's location only ever had 3 guards. The first guy was William and he got out after a Week. Second guy was Jeremy who survived the Nightshift(but probably got his frontal lobe nibbled off on the following Dayshift), and the Third Guy was Fritz who is probably Micheal. There's also some notable revelations here I'll get back to in a minute.
FNAF 3, one guard, probably Micheal(though some fringe theorists think it's Henry), they live. FNAF 4, no guards. FNAF SL...this one is actually kind of hard to say, FNAF 6, one guard, Micheal, dies but not because of animatronics.
FNAF 2 also establishes via Phone Guy that this is the first time this sort of thing has ever happened. Guard 1's reports were thought of as impossible and it's only during Jeremy's week they start to figure out a theory(the bare endoskeleton thing) and offer up some solutions. This tells us the original location that was open for a bit after the murders either didn't have nightguards(makes sense enough, no big crime, no need) or the Puppet hadn't gotten to them yet. It also tells us Guard fatalities are something they're actively trying to avoid.
But in FNAF 1? There's a whole procedure for it. Body removed, property cleaned and bleached, carpets replaced, missing person report within 90 days. A institutional solution for it combined with Phone Guy's "Most people don't last this long" implies MANY guards at this location have come and perished before Micheal arrives in 92/93(doesn't matter, but TLDR 93 has never been proven. Matpat picked it because of the Aurora Chuck E Cheese incident, the tax data said it could be anywhere from 1991-1996, and the Faz Fact that referenced it was cut and might not be canon. But that would have the work week go from Tuesday to Monday which is stupid. Meanwhile in 1992 the November dates line up perfectly with the work week. Minor detail, worth mentioning though).
This means that not only have a ton of guards died, but there's a procedure for it, meaning the company is both aware and doesn't care. But why? This isn't hugely profitable 2030s Fazbear entertainment sweeping a few missing kids and staff under the rug, this is 1990s floundering Fazbear. Why waste so much many dealing with dozens of dead guards...unless...gathering dead guards is the goal.
Let me ask another question. Who is running the show in the 1990s? Henry is out the timeline from the mid 80s until right before FNAF 6, maybe he's hiding in guilt, heck, I personally buy the theory he was framed(explaining the newspaper clipping saying the suspect was convicted) and spent a couple decades in jail, starting on the FNAF 6 project right after getting out. But even if he was here, Henry would never allow any of this to happen. And I already explained above why the faceless corporate overlord types, or even Miss Afton if you wanna bring that up, wouldn't do this. The profit motive isn't there. The location is a crumbling mess and the cleanup procedure is massive and expensive.
That only leaves our boy William Afton, who is alive at this point, was free as recently as 1987, and we have zero evidence he was charged for the DCI/SAVE THEM incident. William Afton was running the FNAF 1 location and funding the cleanups of stuffed, dead, guards. But why?
Well, for years the fandom has talked of William doing remnant experiments, soul experiments, maybe even agony experiments. That's how we get the theory the original 5 souls may have ended up in Funtime Freddy and Ballora and eventually in Molten Freddy and The Blob. But would William really have stuck to the same handful of souls, especially as he seemingly didn't want to mess with his daughter? Why not get a larger sample size, recreate the suffering? But kids are too risky to go after, he's done that twice and gotten away by the skin of his teeth. People care about kids, but what about poor working class blokes? Transients? People no one would notice if they suddenly were to vanish.
I'm of the belief the FNAF 1 location, Bear themed restaurant and all, is a honey pot. It's a trap. It would certainly explain things like the door design and power supply. Transients, Desperate people, poor workers down on their luck, read a newspaper ad, dead in a few days, stuffed and ready for testing. This theory predates the Movie, but the Movie absolutely backs it up with him encouraging people to take the job. The location may have closed in 92/93, but the FNAF 2 ending and Phone Guy lines suggest it may have opened up far sooner than that, within a year of the FNAF 2 location closing. Dozens of men could have died there before the place finally closed at 'years end' a few weeks after Micheals run.
And seemingly it didn't work. Maybe because the suffering wasn't enough. Maybe these men lacked the hope to hold on that the kids did, drained by a terrible life prior. Or maybe it's simply because The Puppet had cottoned on and wasn't going to help bring anyone back. Not anymore.(We know they were at the FNAF 1 location, both from the timeline and the FNAF 2 cutscenes, yet we never see them. Curious). So eventually as the place shut down William decided to take a closer look at the originals. Break them up, study their bits, perhaps reuse them. What made them special? And it would explain why that original remnant kept being re-used, the circumstances were specific and it was so hard to get more. They were no longer needed as unintentional killers.
And Sister Location? Which most people place next to FNAF 1 in the timeline(either before or after depends). While it's not as blatant, it's the only other location with HINTS of prior guard fatalities. Plus the two technitions. Curious then this is the one place we know was fully a William operation.
That's the main theory. All above. FNAF 1 location is a trap to lure in guards to get stuffed and use for remnant experiments. It didn't work, so William eventually scrapped the animatronics to study directly after it closed.
@@AustinTatious02 Ok, here's the bit of a stretch part.
Phone Guy. The eternal enigma. Leading candidate to be the Purple Guy for over a year. We know he was innocent, and in hindsight it was kind of obvious from the start(The FNAF 2 phonecalls very clearly tell us it's the Dayshift Guard/Former Nightguars, and they aren't the same person as Phone Guy. Heck they trick Phone Guy). But he's definitely sketchy. He helps hide what's going on in the FNAF 2 location, covers up Springsuit fatalities, organizes the saferooms being sealed, and knows very well what's happening to all the guards at the FNAF 1 location. He's not a killer, but he is a diehard company loyalist who has been complicit in and helped cover up numerous crimes. Bit of a toadie.
And we also have evidence William has blackmailed and threatened people more than once. He got the Funtime Designs past those execs who knew what they were for. SOMEONE was arrested in the 80s for the MCI and it clearly wasn't him. (Henry is the prime theory as it explains a bunch of other things, but back in the day a popular option was 'the guy in the foxy costume from Foxy Go Go' or 'One of the other bullies from Fnaf 4).
This coo-coo banana pants theory is that Phone Guy was essentially strong-armed into being William's igor and right hand man in running the FNAF 1 location, handling the logistics of the new hires and managing the clean ups. Phone Guy is a toadie to start with(as shown above) and William could easily threaten to either frame him for the DCI/Save Them, or just leak all the audio of Phone Guy covering up various deaths on behalf of Fazbear over the years(probably edited to relieve William of any blame). The tapes were in the same room as Springbonnie, he has access to them. That would explain why Phone Guy, while not being THE killer, is clearly involved in so much nasty business. Toadie to William to the end, especially when being credibly threatened.
It would also explain why in FNAF 1, despite towing the line and never fully telling you to 'leave and never come back' or something sensible like that, he does TRY to give subtle hints to either help you out or warn out without crossing the line. His previous deeds were very impersonal and detatched, he was the middleman, not the cause. Now he's directly involved like never before, he can't write off the blame in his mind anymore, "only following orders" is a lot harder when you're there in person and leading people to their deaths directly. (BTW, great title for a Phone Guy theory video. Only Following Orders). So he's trying desperately to get some warnings out in-between dismissing them and legal jargon and lying to you about the cause of the malfunction.
This would also explain his fate. While Phone Guy had nominally been a guard since the place opened(as indicated by his FNAF 2 dialogue), it was obviously more of a training role, head guard, served only on paper in a lot of ways. He wasn't doing it weekly for all those years. But I'm guessing his disobediance and evidence of trying to sneak out warnings eventually came to Williams attention. Which combined with the fact all the Stuffed Guards were not working out in the experiments and William was probably getting angry...he sent Phone Guy to do things in person, and ensured he'd never come back.
Phone Guy has a single line of dialogue never featured in any game. From the opening of the FNAF 2 trailer. "Well if you're hearing this then, chances are you've made a very poor career choice."
Almost like it was never allowed out. Maybe this was what William found that finally broke the camels back?
Heck if you really want to get crazy you could say Phone Guy's death is what finally prompted the place to close 'by years end'(so right before the X-Mas holidays in either December 92 or 93), as without him William couldn't manage the logistics anymore, thus he resorted to utterly destroying the originals for further testing until he eventually got himself into a position to be killed(whenever that was, probably 1994ish).
Maybe that's also why Micheal showed up then and specifically then. William probably would have told Phone Guy to on no uncertain terms keep out any weird smelly guys who looked remotely like his son(especially if this is after the events of Sister Location which I think is the common idea now.), but in the chaos with him gone he could easily slip through the cracks. There aren't a lot of people both morally dubious enough to do this and that William has enough dirt on to keep loyal, really just Micheal who's already gone rogue at this point.
Plus it fits tonally. It's another example of William's poor choices ruining his plans, he killed one of the only two people he could realistically control because they were getting uncomfortable at the mass murder. Plus Phone Guy's punishment is fitting. A painful death, but not full blown fires of hell like Willy got.
There are flaws and stretches(the whole phone guy side of things). The two most common complaints I've heard are "William never ran the FNAF 1 location" and "Henry was never framed."
The latter isn't really important to the main theory other than helping eliminate Henry as an owner(and there are other ways to do that), and even in the crazier Phone Guy sub-theory still works fine as long as SOMEONE had been framed in the past(which 100% happened, someone was convicted for the MCI) and even WITHOUT ANY FRAMING, it still probably works because we know for 100% William had access to incriminating tapes. They were in the safe room next to Springbonnie.
The former is...well I do sort of get the sentiment, we know William seemingly wasn't super involved in the FNAF 2 location at least directly. But I have to ask, ok, who is running it then? Who else has a motive to allow this sort of mass guard death to occur? Henry sure doesn't, Micheal doesn't, and a faceless corporate entity without morals ala the ones running the Pizzaplex would see the income-spending graph and just torch the building for the insurance. You cover up deaths when you have a successful thriving operation, you don't spend thousands doing it on a failing crumbling restaurant that's dumb. No one else makes sense, BUT William. And experiments are the best motive given, AT THE LATEST, he learned about what was going on with the animatronics in 87 after Save Them and his Nightshift work, and possibly earlier. He absolutely was working on this stuff by the early 90s.
And the movie thing backs it up, parallels between things in this franchise date back to the novels. The theory predates the movie, my version predates the movie by a good year(and it's based on older versions by people like BlackFootFerret, though his was a lot more crazy and tied to his other crazy theories...that guy's theories are nuts, but he had a weird trend of getting specific details right WAY ahead of time. He predicted mad science and soul harvesting and the company being run by a duo all the way back in FNAF 3, and predicted both souls being split into multiple suits and two souls sharing a suit right after FNAF 4. He also predicted Afton chasing immortality around this time.).
Afton in the movie IS baiting people into taking the job for his own purposes with the goal of getting them killed. Sure in the movie it's for a more simplistic goal of 'more murder', but in the games his goals are more complex so the game equivalent would be more complex. And in the movie he fills both the role of himself and Phone Guy in the games, so a game equivalent would likely involve both of them.
@@AustinTatious02 did it reach you? you want more note?
@@kalkuttadrop6371 Yeah, sorry I've been really busy and needed a window to actually read this. Very interesting indeed. I would like to talk more about it over on discord!
i am going to blow up your mind, i am new theorist, and working for my frist video fnaf theory, its going take max 30 days
only now i getting recomendation of new channel fnaf theory, when i working in my own channel for frist time
in UCN there a dialogue between old man consequence and the vengeful spirit and your can hear william afton scream in the background, he being torment by someone during the dialogue
he called henry and mike for help, the two people life he ruined, but not elizabeth help , why?
didn't elizabeth go in fnaf 6 to help him? so why william doesn't call for elizabeth help?
"the one you shouldn't have killed" does he talking in third person about himself or is someone else talking about him
but why this person only reffering about one victim of william afton, but not the others victims? don't they really matter?
what is difference between this one for the others?
"john from trilogy is the vengeful spirit of the game timeline"
Elizabeth is 2th charliebot has part remnant of charlie, that gave her life, but she was failuire because she wasn't charlie, just artificial intelligence that mimicking the real charlie
the final dialogue in fnaf its wasn't about between Elizabeth and Henry
but the final dialogue between Charlie and Henry
Sounds like a good start for a theory! I can't wait to see where it goes!