Estonian Wargames: How NATO is Preparing Estonia for Potential War with Russia
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- NATO is preparing Estonia for potential war with Russia by beefing up the country's cyber security and conducting rigorous military drills. But as Foreign Correspondent reporter Eric Campbell discovers, NATO is more a provocateur in the eyes of many ethnic Russians, who make up a quarter of Estonia’s population. Subscribe to Journeyman here: www.youtube.com...
Since gaining independence in 1991, Estonia has seen huge economic and technological advances. But underlying its prosperity is renewed concern about Russian occupation, 25 years after the end of the Soviet Union.
"If you don’t want a war, prepare for a war", says Kirsten, one of thousands of reservists who signed up after Russia annexed Crimea. The setting of NATO's annual war games, Estonia has become symbolic of the growing divide between Russia and the West. Yet for many Estonians, the threat from Russia feels local and real, as Kirsten's friend Maria explains: "Russia is next door to Estonia, so then I thought, 'why not come to protect like our family or country or nation'".
These two women are not old enough to remember the days of Soviet occupation, but many do. "I remember the Soviet times. I remember the Soviet Army and I don’t want that back", Kaupo Karuse explains, "most of the world doesn’t understand the cost of freedom". Professionally, Kaupo is a software consultant, a member of Estonia's thriving computing and tech economy.
As well as preparing militarily, Estonia is pushing cyber defence to the limit after suffering cyber attacks - which many blamed on Russia. However, Estonia's Russian community play down any tension, as Vladimir Cherdakov says, "if anyone says that Russia is a provocateur, I don’t believe it".
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ABC Foreign Correspondent - Ref. 7144
Estonia is a free nation, glad to see it as part of NATO; love from the United States of America!
How is (was 2017) Estonia "Free" : They have no sovereign Foreign Policy, they have no Sovereign Currency, they have no Sovereign Trade Policy, they have no Sovereign Military. All of that is decided in other countries by citizens of other countries.
Estonia SSR was a Consitutional Republic, they had more control over their lives in the USSR than they do in the EU.
They may LIKE being in servitude of EU but it's not Freedom.
long live Estonia. Hope you will be safe for long time. Greetings from Bavaria
When russia move 1 Step in my country i will hold my grandpa kar98k sniper
Estonia, truly, is the envy of all post-Soviet nations. And is a source for inspiration for others to follow. All the best and greetings from Ukraine!
Estonia makes most of Russia look like a slum.
So this the reason why half of them moved west?
+Vladimir Steinberg No this is a reason why thousands of russians every year move to Estonia ;)
Exactly, that is the reason why half of them moved to the west and not to the east.
parabot2 where are you from?
Respect from sweden
Much respect from Canada
The cold war never ended.
sarcasmo57 Yes it did. Your just too butthurt to admit that the USSR lost it
Ben A. I think he means that we’re still fighting with Russia
it morphed & like covid-19
It's over between the US and Russia. Russia can't do shit to the United States but Europe is still at risk especially the old Soviet satellite states that are loyal to NATO.
@@Jonesyful10 yea that's what the military industrial complex of the US wants you to think, its needs to generate and make enemies for itself in order to justify its existence, it used to be Socialism and now its islamic terrorism and Russia, its pathetic that so many people still believe that bullsh*t
Estonian is a beautiful country
Yes Estonia is beautiful country and also their are very good fasist Including Latvia, Ukraine, Lotyšsko all fasist whether Russia wants defeat or invedet they might be able during 2 days but Putin don't want them those fasist they think that nato save them just try to escalate and provoke their Russian territory then u will see how the Russian destroy those fasist countries including fucking brainwashing nato
TheNeurolicious I do apologize to you because I have read your response and I realized that u are absolutely correct my friend you know what u talking about. Bless you.
beautiful but naive
@Neurolicious Yes we get drunk on fridays and sometimes fight eachother but the cigarette part is for Russians not for us :P
@Neurolicious "...indoctrinated into believing lies since early age by his parents probably." And "These jewish pricks own Europe ". This is creepy. If you are going to write such fanatic things, Neurolicious, then have the guts to sign with your real name, as I do herewith, in my capacity as an Estonian national who respects his parents and rejects anti-Semitism. (signed) Toomas Karmo, Nõo Rural Municipality (approx 200 km south of Tallinn)
Respect from Romania, you are not alone!
Vasile Iuga Slava Russija!
Vasile Iuga thought your name looked familiar. You've got some great uploads
BUT YOU WILL BE AFTER BELARUS & RUSSIA FINISH RUMANIA OFF !
We're is Romania?Is it a country?
Romania is romanized Slavic country
WE'RE COMING FOR YOU ADOLF PUTIN............
ctcole77 no no no it’s Joseph Putin geographically more accurate and Stalin was worse than Adolf
@@jaspermennink7409 true, but some idiots say he was a hero... fools
Estonia if u get attacked by russia We nordic Will fight on ur side Brother
@nas pierce calm down. I know your probably racist and you don't like slavs but calm down.
Thanks, we're the same as southern neighbours in Baltics. Much smaller than you, but nvm.
Much respect from the US. We have your back.
Rik Z i couldn't understand shit you said you must be hella dumb or your bad at english
@Rik Z you just sound dumb
You have their backs. I'm not gonna do shit for any other country.
@Rik Z How many of them were in NATO?
@@amutah8063 Smart man!
No more foreign domination, more cooperation. Long live a free Estonia from the Netherlands!
STAY STRONG ESTONIA!!!
AMERICA IS WITH YOU!!!
WE ARE NOT WESTERN EUROPEAN SWINE. WE WILL NOT ABANDON YOU!!! HOLD STRONG AND BUY TIME!!! WE WILL COME FOR YOU.
You say the same to the kurds
@R G hope is not a strategy. Strength is a strategy.
Thank you from the bottom of my Baltic heart. Hope this will age well.
The were part of developing Skype! It were developed by a Swede, a Dane and two Estonians
Мира Вам и любви эстонцы!!! Привет из Украины
Дякуем, как бачешь не забьıли.
🔱Разом до перемоги🔱
UA♡EE♡LV♡LT
Estonia is a great little country.
Long Life Estonia from Romania🇹🇩
Russia: You can't defeat me
Estonia: I know. But *HE* can
Finland: *PERKELE!!!*
Have been to Tallinn and Estonia is a beautiful place
One of the most beautiful places in the world. Growing up in Ireland, my buddies & I spent weekends, long weekends, summers, etc travelling europe. Most visited country by us was Spain, Greece & other Med countries but when I met my wife we no longer sought the sun. My wife is a great "vacation spot seeker."😬I chose our home though, and 9 kids later, a short-ish military career later [8 years] we live on a working ranch in rural Oklahoma & as kids who grew up with horses, ye could put us in Moscow & we'd enjoy life as long as we had our horses.😂 Most famous Estonian = Artur Reih. Amazing young soldier.
Wow, you actually know what you're talking about. At least it aged well about Artur REHI, he is more popular than Kallas by now.
Estonia has beautiful architecture on different levels . It's very old European look (like France or Germany) , very nice .
The UK will stand with you Estonia as will France and Demark...
Thank you, looks likebyou're right. Most of Europe do (or at least talk) that about Ukraine, increasingly despite it being denied NATO membership. Hope you don't have to defend Estonia though.
With love to Estonia from the UK
I'm Scottish.
There is nothing GREAT about BRITAIN, just like there is NOTHING U about UK......
The Great stands for England, Wales and Scotland under one Monarch in the greater part of the British Isle.
The U in the UK is the first letter otherwise it would just be K.
With love to Estonia and UK from Lithuania :)
Best wishes to all countries, I am British, I am from England. Let us all live in peace and respect one another. All the best to you all.
USA Stands with ESTONIA !!! ...
Prepare. RUS trolls and bots are coming!
RuSSia was allies with Nazis, attacked Poland with them, commit war crimes in WWII and after it. Attacked Afghanistan, Moldova, Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine, so don't talk about terrorism.
Mr. Putler Gollum I'm half ukrainian so i don't know what you're trying to get at 😂 . the Kremlin is bad , but they're not letting Islamic jihadists into the European heartland to rape woman , old folk & children. you'd think that would be the EUs priority crisis & not a paper tiger on the northern steppe
Mr.putler from rio de janeiro .> Hilter + Stalin = PutlerKGB
says the antirussian troll, how pathetic, pitiful, and so rysophobic.
U cant they have very much help
I remember while studying in college I got to know a beautiful Estonian girl, I wish I still had contact with her.
1:34 Actually the saying is: "If you want peace, prepair for war" :P
Long life for estonia, ukraina,slovakia,latvia,lithuania,moldova,poland,hungaria...
More now than ever. RESPECT
Истонцы красавцы!
It´s not gonna work in the Baltic States like the Finnish-Soviet war in the xx century. The people of Finland were brave, and the Baltic States are not alone .
Alot of Estonian fought in that winter war againts the soviets. Including my grandmother with her sister.
Long live Estonia from US! 🇪🇪🇺🇸
Good on Estonia.
Interesting how they use the G-3 rifle like we still largely do in Portugal. I feel glad for them, the G-3 is a very fine, reliable and accurate rifle that won't let you down. The Portuguese Armed Forces use it since 1963 and built thousands under licence; only now it is being slowly replaced by the FN SCAR. There's nothing wrong nor outdated with the G-3, and if you must chose between 7,62 or 5,56mm I believe you're better armed with the heavier calibre.
We're all together against the Russian arrogance! Stay sharp. 🇪🇪 🇵🇹 🇺🇦 😀
G-3 Rifle is used by the National Guard/National Milita, made up of volunteers. Actual defence forces and conscripts use Israeli Galil and in the recent two years we have started to go over to the M4 platform with the new R20 RAHE.
Fun fact: G-3 is affectionately called Row (as in boat row) by conscripts because of it's size and shape.
From America.....Long live Estonia!!!!!!
Крым гэта Украіна. Слава Украіне!!! Жыве Беларусь!!!
Героям слава🔱
We have your backs from America! Elagu Eesti!!!
respect
"If you want peace , prepare for war"
Freedom is not free
Do their soldiers really go home on weekends?
Yes. Serving time is 8 or 11 months, depending on your training. After 2 months in, you’ll get out for weekends.
There's probably even more people volunteering and training in Estonia ever since Putin's latest Ukrainian adventure started on February 24th 2022. I'm happy the three Baltic countries joined NATO during those few years while there was a window of opportunity open. If they had waited for too long I'm afraid that by now it would be too late. Russia really wants them back and they don't care what the United Nations says about it. As members of NATO however, I don't think the Russians will risk it.
no there are less I have alot of friends in the military who left service cause they went in to serve estonia not the US.Contrary to what you think the world is against NATO/ukr/US not against Russia.
@tatfly5779
Hi lfascist liar (or kremlinbot, doesn't matter). Every single thing you said is an exact opposite to reality, just a wet dream of your employers in Kremlin.
💩
Stay strong Estonia. The US and your other NATO allies will do our best to protect you.
This was a very informative documentary. Good work Journeyman Pictures.
Russia is a concern for Estonia however we can not compare Ukraine (Non-Nato) country to Estonia (NATO) country. Russia will not be suicidal to attack a country with over 30 different members declaring war on Russia.
The problem is if Russia moves in NATO can't defend Estonia it would be defeated in a day or two, it's as simple as that, the only question would be how many casualties would there be on both sides, would war last few days or more, and how much of Estonia would be given to Russia.
Well this again is assuming that Russia is suicidal and does not wish to exist as a country. You must demonstrate why Russia is suicidal before we talk body counts.
the question is whether russia believes nato would defend baltics. which any thinking person would argue that it possibly wont, no matter what the men in suits say.
NATO would defend Baltics as it would put the legitimacy of decades into question. This is not Srbenicia or Rwanda, This is the defining characteristic of NATO. Defending NATO countries. Russia even invaded Ukraine knowing it is not a NATO country and taking advantage of the political instability.
It's not about would NATO try to defend Estonia if Russia attacked, it's about how they wouldn't be able to defend them as every NATO general knows, and some admit it. Than it would be up to public opinion in UK, Germany, US, are majority of citizens in favour of liberating russian speaking Estonia and total war against Russia where teens of milions of soldiers would die, or would they be in favour of peace agreement. Infact Estonians themselves would be in favour of peace agreement instead of their country being destroyed by total war betwen West and Russia, they wouldn't care that much about russians in Estonia. Make a guess what choice would people make...
I understand and support pretending about how they would defend Estonia properly and puting some NATO soldiers in Estonia, but there is a reason why the number of NATO soldiers in Estonia is kept low.
god bless Estonia
The problem with Estonia in NATO? Geography.....Leon Trotsky: " Estonia is the kennel for the dogs of counterrevolution".
I love the MG3.
I from estonia
That machine gun at 7:27 looks a lot like German WW2 one .. heard some are still used today . From what I've heard , it's still a good weapon .
These large military exercises were actually held before Estonia joined NATO, so the reasons were not made up by NATO, but by necessity to defend itself. Unfortunatelly Russia has shown it's true face so many times after Estonia joined NATO, so naturally it has become a large NATO exercise, if not one of the largest. In 2004, two Russian fighters flew just past Tallinn, the capital of Estonia, just prior of joining NATO. Estonia now has Baltic Air-policy fighters stationed in their military airbase, but Russia is still entering NATO airspace from time to time.
TheSuperManulCat Why do side with the pro gay West, and not want to rejoin the Slavic motherland. Rossiya.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 Estonians are Finnic instead of Slavic. What appeal there could possibly be in a Slavic motherland for them?
For NATO !
F*ck NATO, it's a cold war Era alliance that only serves to fulfill the military industrial complex of the US government
>but 2 hours drive away
a 2 hours drive will take you more than halfway across Estonia
i always thought the saying was _"if you want peace prepare for war"_ @ 1:34
fire the guy who put moscow on that map at 8:11
me when i see lithuanian troops: MOM THATS US!
Hi what is the soundtrack name in 3.03 please? I am loyal follower of your channel could you tell me please 🙏
Thank you Nato Who help Baltic states and Ukraine
Was this filmed in the spring?
That blonde in camo is a babe lol. But as an American im all for the NATO Alliance we are together in this!! And Estonia has been one of the few members to pay what they said they would I respect that!!!
Sordid russian always forgeting that they are in Estonia because them came by force in the obscene russifications!!...there place is not Estonia, but back in Russia!...too bad for them if they don't like to live in russia - but that is there place!...
We went on vacation in the summer
🇺🇸 ❤ 🇪🇪 brother in arms
The MG42's are looking to bite invading Communists again. They sound so distinct, what a weapon.
those are MG3 s
Russians aren't communist anymore dumb*ss
What the fuck really? German mg42 the most deadliest weapon you can use
She will never direct a movie...the war already began.
We are one .
Russia should practice some Wargames in Mexico and Cuba 😜
They probably couldn't defeat the Mexican Drug cartels .
In 1938 it was "Not one Grenadier for Danzig"'.
NATO will feast on Estonia as it is now feasting on Ukraine.
Why didn't Russia claim Ukraine right after world war2
Estonia must sign OUT from Ottawa treaty. Otherwise they will have serious problems stopping Russians. At least mines will give 1-2 days extra time for NATO troops come from West.
War game???
They didnt move to estonia ... they were moved by stalin if necessary by force
Freedom is not free
yeah estonia rules yey :D
Please excuse my ignorance about Estonia and Russia, but why do the Russians want to start a war with Estonia? They seem like they wanna end Estonia so bad lol. Makes me sad because the fact that this is a tiny country and they seem to be minding their own business, here comes Russia bullying them. :(
More coastline, taxpayers, shorter border to guard Russia if you look map, more natural resources, bigger buffer zone to Moscow, less Western thinking people... You want some more?
@@rapator9270
Actually, that's good enough for me lol.
Geography. They want a warm water harbor in the Baltic Sea that won't freeze up in the winter time like St. Petersburg. They do have the warm water port of their Kaliningrad exclave but they have to cross Belarus which isn't a problem for them since Lukashenko is Putin's puppet, but then they must thread a needle down a single narrow route they are allowed to travel between Poland and Lithuania to get there. And now that the EU is restricting certain items on a sanctions list, Lithuania has been stopping Russian trains from going there.. It's driving Putin crazy! 😂
Does anyone know the name of the track that is played right at the end??
1:35 that´s not how the saying goes it´s "if you want peace you must prepare at war" Si vis pacem, para bellum
Ohhh again the SS here... Russians are going to win again hahaha
you'r a moron, a lot of latinos got punked by russians, weird tendency.
I actually live in Tapa, which has a military base. Well im fucked
16:55 Stupid statement. Officially all Soviet republics were independent member states of the union, with their own flags, government, languages etc.
It's almost like if after Brexit Germans in Britain would start crying that suddenly they live in a foreign country. Yes the Soviet Union was more centralized, but it never was just a single country.
It was a single country. We had our own anthems and flags. But it all was centrally run from moscow. If the goverment wanted to do something they would have to ask russia first. Officially independent countries? Im suprised that a finn is saying this kind of stuff.
I wonder if the people of Narva would like to live under Putins rule....
Hunter could easily turn into hunted!
U gnow what sucks...A russian kid shot me whit a airsoft gun lol
SOME POLITICIANS ARE SUCH LIARS.
why is he even interviewing the Russian mouthpiece 🤷🏻♂️
How they feel about Germany and their pipeline now? Hello from St.lou usa
Ok, sa said parima arhitektuuri auhinna! Aga see ei ole sinu tehtud
What is the music at 2:58?
Jeans n t'shirt is a "hipster uniform " now, according to this guy? So my normal Levis blue jeans, and regular t-shirt is hipster?
the music at the end ?
what the fuck Russian map includes Georgia
Nice documentary! I have to take some issue with the comment "If you don't want war, you must prepare for war". This is of course somewhat true: having a stronger defense can be a deterrent, not to mention every country has a right to defend itself from other countries. But preparing for war as though it were inevitable can also provoke, scare, and/or be used as an excuse that may lead to an intervention from the other side. Estonia would do well both for reasons both related to human rights and concerns about Russian expansionism to avoid the appearance of discrimination against the large ethnic/linguistic Russian minority. If you believe that Estonia has the potential to become the next Ukraine, then it would be wise to avoid some of the mistakes made by Ukraine that precipitated Russia's intervention.
there is no discrimination against the large ethnic/linguistic Russian minority, there is against soviets.
and russia recognizes only strength, which western europe didnt get for a long time, so muscle flexing is a necessity.
Make estonia bunker
this playcement of Moscovy on the map tho
i accualy can see alps a in the midle of germany as well so i guess thats a technical problem
Just saying number of countries that were invaded with nukes, 0.
cute little pea :D haha
27:10
Lol
Its somewhat disturbing to use here the word Games - for us it is life and death question as independent and free small nation of 1million with their own democratic state, culture (universities, literature, music, technologies) and language. Neo-Imperialistic Russia misunderstands the real meaning of word Friendly - for Kreml you are friendly neighbor only when you must ask permit from Kremlin for everything. And regrettably many descendants of russian colonists carry on similar shovinistic-imperialistic attitude. For more intelligent part of local russians it isnt a big problem that there is a small west-oriented independent state. But for others...
Mr primister i also didn't get paid for all these years
I would like to move there I I like the reeducation of history and are also welling to stand and fight for what they got
I'm sorry for this young, beautiful lady. She better be clever, and not pop out to risk her life for western politicians. All Baltic Srates can be overrun in hours. Let's hope that never happens. Also NATO will not react because i don't think american boys want to die for European politiciand hypocrisy. Why isn't Estonia interested about occupied part of Cyprus (which is in EU) but is occupied by a member of NATO, Turkey ? Ooh yes i know, NATO is perfect.. yes....