Bontrager Ion Pro RT 1300 Lumin / Flare RT 90 Lumin bike light set thoughts & review
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- čas přidán 4. 10. 2018
- here is my review after using them for two weeks. the up's and down side to these amazing lights.
spec's
Bontrager ION Pro RT 1300 Lumin:
- 1300 Lumin high beam( 1.5) hour run time.
- 800 Lumin medium beam (3) hour run time.
- 400 Lumin Low beam (6) hour run time.
- 300 Lumin Day flash (22) hour run time.
- 200 Lumin Night flash (26) hour run time.
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Flare RT :
- 90 Lumin Day flash ( 6) hour run time.
- 45 Lumin All day flash ( 12 ) hour run time.
-25 Lumin Day steady (4.5 ) hour run time.
- 15 Lumin Night flash ( 5 ) hour run time.
- 5 Lumin Night steady ( 13.5 ) hour run time.
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water resistance rating: IPX7
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Weight:
Bontrager ION Pro RT 1300 Lumin: 189g ( 149g only the light, without the mount)
Flare RT 90 Lumin : 89g ( 24g light only )
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Connectivity:
- Ant+
- Bluetooth ( with Garmin 820,1000,1030 devices ONLY)
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500 Full Charges before battery dies out for good.
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1300 ION Pro button light indicators:
Red flashing with cable: charging
Red flashing : below 25% battery
Yellow flashing : Between 25% -75% battery
green flashing : Below 75% battery
Green steady : 100% battery
Blue Flashing : ANT+ & Bluetooth ON
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Flare RT button light indicator:
Red flashing with cable: charging
Red flash : 0% - 75% battery.
Green flash : 75% - 99% battery.
Green steady : 100% battery.
Blue Flashing : ANT+ & Bluetooth ON
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more info ⬇️
Trek's safety awareness websites and details:
www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/ab... - Sport
UPDATE: you can override the ambient sensor without the remote. with the device fully off including Bluetooth, Hold down the button for 8 seconds. The red light will flash once. The ambient sensor is now disabled. Repeat procedure to activate the sensor again.
I was totally underwhelmed with the rear light until I turned off that ambient light sensor. I was about to return it. Turned it off using the method you give here and it started acting like a decent light. Battery time is surprisingly good, given the tiny size.
Martin Pascoe Haha I was literally in your shoes too. I’m glad this was able to help you out.
thanks for update. no need to buy the remote👍
thank you for doing the review, iv decided to buy these based on what i learned with the problems and how to fix ! Great review !
You’re welcome. Yes they are a great set of lights. Can’t go wrong buying them.
Good advice regarding resetting the light. Worked a treat
Thanks for taking time for getting this review up!
Appreciate it. Thanks for watching. Stay safe ✌️.
Well... you save me a lot of time soy thank you for that. I just bought this today and the light was stuck in red... no charging. So I reboot the device as you suggested and problem solved. Greetings from Mexico !
I’m glad that I could be of help. 👍thums up the video if you liked it . tenga un buen día :)
Thank you so much! Great video!
Good review, thanks for posting!
Thanks for this review. Very helpful.
really glad you made this video
Its a really excellent review bro. Thanx. 👍🏼
This was very good, I have commuted years ago and this set or adjustment of lights is great also the reset of the light is a must to know. My light would only stay in bright mode and reset fixed that problem .... thanks
You’re welcome , glad it helped. Cheers.
thanks you solved the mystery of why my RT Flare was not behaving as expected
28th St. Air Land & Sea I’m glad that It helped you out.
Just hold down the power button for 8 sec until the light flahes. This turns off ambient mode. The light need to be off before doing this rest though.
Great review! And made a strong case for the 200 RT w. that ambient light sensor, and faster charging time. But the Pro RT has 10 hours more battery life (daytime flash), and slide lights.
Thx mate. Just in case you hadn’t read my updated post, You can override that ambient sensor: with the light OFF, hold down for 8 seconds and the light will flash. Its now disabled👌.
Thank you. Was stuck on why it wouldn’t charge for ages
Glad it helped : )
I have the older flare r city lights and when I point them directly into my room lamp they switch to daytime, and when I point to the ground it goes to nighttime. So the issue you described might not be an issue but a great feature. The headlights of a car will trigger daytime running lights if bright enough to wash out your taillight. On top of that, you really don’t want daytime lights on at night. When its dark enough it can be hard for a car to see what direction/speed someone is traveling at due to there being gaps in the flash, this is why the nighttime mode stays on at a low intensity with sharper blinks of intensity to catch a driver’s attention without being annoying or difficult to judge what you are.
I see, but what I was talking about was riding during the day. I mainly bought these as a day time running light. At night I'm well aware NOT to have the daytime flashing modes ON for obvious reasons such as you have mentioned. On top of that, it's also illegal. and if I went abroad say to, Germany, I'm well aware not to have any Flashing mode ON at any time as they are illegal. I've done my research, but thank you for the contribution towards safety :)
Outstanding!!!!
Cheers :)
awesome thank you!
Thanks mate
Thanks again. Keep referring back to your video 👍
I have the garmin edge 130 plus and these lights work with it as well. Thanks for the heads up on the charging hiccups and the ambient light by pass.
Awesome to know. Thanks for your contribution 😃
You help me very Mach
Thank you❤
Thank you.
Natural Technologist Thank you for watching
1- charging time @1:32
2- Trouble shoot charging solution @ 2:35
3- Modes spec sheet @ 3:39
4-Modes demonstration @ 4:27
5- Flare RT downside @ 5:20
( update: you can deactivate the ambient sensor by holding down the button for 8 seconds followed by one flash. It’s now deactivated)
6- Transmitter remote @6:56
7- NOTE❗️how to correctly mount rear light @11:06
Can you add a powerbank during the ride to keep it on for a longer time?
Jeroen Suys Good question, I never thought of that. I have just tested it out with my Anker power bank, and I can confirm that it was charging whilst the light was on. Although I have no idea if the charge input would be greater than the discharge rate.
Theoretically, it should give it a longer run time, but Keep in mind, the micro usb flap is on the bottom, so it’s exposed to the elements of whatever your tyre might flick towards it.
Update: You can override the ambient sensor without a remote. Just hold down the button for 8 seconds, after one red flash, it has now been deactivated.
@@abbreviateTome you probably won't see this but I dont know what to do about my bontrager ion pro. It doesn't seem to charge.when I charge it the light only stays red.wh should I do
bike addictions @bike addictions I do see it:)
first turn the light ON. Then hold down the button, after 8 seconds its should flash, without lifting your finger, keep holding down the button for another 8 and it should flash.
Now that its has flashed twice, turn OFF the light. Charge it and it should revert back to blinking red whilst charging.
Let me know how it go’s.
Thanks for this review. I am torn between the Ion RT 1300 and the Giant Recon HL 1600 front light. Hard to find any reviews. Maybe its because its only been recently released? For charging, can you use a 2 Amp charger?
Richard M you’re welcome. I’ve got some other lights. Much more powerful than these called designshine DS. But they are wired to a large battery. They last for a long time & are much brighter . I haven’t had any experience with the Giant Recon HL 1600. As for charging these, I use the standard usb to mico usb power. Or sometimes use my Anker power bank to charge it faster. The Anker has a sensor chip that reads connected devices which, in turn, regulates the maximum right amount of power. I wouldn’t be so sure as to charge it with say, an iphone 2 Amp charger, because it would be an unregulated amount of output power to the light.
Thanks for the review. Do you think it would be possible to plug the usb into an adapter to plug it in to a wall outlet to speed up the recharging time?
Hi. Thanks.
I wouldn’t recommend that with any appliance 😅. You Might short circuit it and ruin it for good.
Most power banks use smart charging where it knows how much power to put out at the maximum point. I use an Anker power bank charger. Safest and fastest way to charge lights, phones...etc.
@@abbreviateTome Hi Yusuf, I just received my light set and in the user guide they show that it is safe to use an AC adapter. A 1.0 and 2.0 usb port puts out 5v 500mA DC and my phone adapter puts out 5v 1000mA DC so this should charge the lights twice as fast. I contacted Trek to find out if this would be a safe practice and he told me that it should work fine. I just thought I would share since you provided such good information. Thanks
Hi Yosef, thank you for the great review! I was wondering if the your Element Bolt would be able to pair to the Lights and turn them on automatically? Best, Alex
Cheers Alex, unfortunately not. Its only with the Garmin GPS units I’m afraid.
thank you for the quick follow-up :)
Alexander Rief no worries budd
@@abbreviateTome I'm currently using the head light with the Garmin and di2. Would highly advise against the tail light. It blinks intermittently when idling and off. You can only shut it off if you manually disable the Bluetooth. This means you have to hold down the button for 8 seconds to re-enable it every time you're ready to use it. Terrible design. Annoying and definitely not worth the trouble.
On the flare RT 90 what is the blue led light that flashes every 15 seconds even when its been turned off for a long time?
greeneking77 It means Bluetooth and ANT+ is still on. Read the description at the bottom of the video for more info🙂
Hello, I had the same problem with the daylight flash - to ambient light reduction. After sending it in, I was told that they reseted it. Maybe you can try it out as well. The best is to check the manual.. Cheers!
Hi , thanks for the comment, although I’ve figured this out and wrote similar to what you said. I’m now wondering if all my comments aren’t showing up for the viewers. Cheers 😊
Just bought the Ion Pro RT and had the same charging problem you mentioned. I have already reset it and it now works well. But has this problem been something occasional or has it been repeated over time? Thanks!!
Beltran Ceregido Hi there. No, it only happened that very first time when I took it out of the box, started to charge it, and 10 min in took it off charge. I presumed it was due to it still not being broken in. The same how smart phone manufacturers say to charge the phone up to 100% before use. It now works like a charm 👌.
Thank you from 🇮🇱
Good review. If I buy this set I need remote to keep tail light on instead of flashing?
No, you don’t need the remote. You can use the button on the lights to toggle through the modes.
I personally only use the remote when out on group rides to be able to turn them off when racing and someone is behind me.
If you’re only commuting, save your money and don’t buy the remote.
Feel free to ask any other question and thx for watching :)
yosef Habib Hafiz ok cool... video helpful now I can make the decision to purchase it or not 👍🏽
Am sure it switches to dimmer because it's not to distract and annoy drivers with a blinding light in the dark
Very true. The ambient sensor is a "feature" for riding out on rural area's and automatically dims the blinding lights when the sun has set, HOWEVER, if its still midday and you ride into a well-lit tunnel, the sensors will dim the light and it won't be visible to the cars approaching the tunnel. Luckily there is an option to turn this "feature" off. Hold down the light button for 8 seconds, after the flash, the ambient sensor will now be disabled.
I learned how to turn on my Bontrager Ion Pro RT 1300 Lumin from you thanks. Do you use an a smartphone app with the lights? I noticed they are ant+
I use a remote for it sold separately. Unfortunately there’s no app. You will see the remote towards the end of the video.
@@abbreviateTome Thanks, I did get the remote. I will be going for what could be my last ride of the season in Minnesota. Getting cold! Thanks your great
John Wexler sure is cold. Stay safe and keep them lights on 😁. Make sure to check out my other vid about the remote if you’ve still not set them up. Cheers.
I've just bought a Flare RT rear light, for me at least, it seems the default mode is now with Ambient mode OFF (I've reset the light numerous times and each time, ambient is OFF)
Just to be sure, You want to activate it? have held down the button until it flash once?
Will this work with garmin 520 plus edge computer?
Thanks
No it won’t. Cheers
Ouch I was just about to order this until you said the recharge time. I might still get it since I have a tendency to take the light off the bike as soon as I get home and plug it in to charge it but I am astonished that they don’t have something that seems like it’s in the modern era of charging with all of the other good engineering in the design
To be fair. They are not that much of a problem. The front light lasts much more than the rear, but the rear light is faster to charge. I’m in the habit of just charging it when I get home if it needs be. I don’t commute by bike so I do need to charge it as often. The capabilities of being able to charge any battery on earth is to have Colbolt in them. After hearing a Podcast on Spotify ( Joe Rogan #1914) and the disgusting sub human levels of slavery that go’s into this, I was shocked. The book 📚 (Cobalt Red: How the Blood of the Congo Powers Our Lives) is coming out soon too. After knowing this , me personally I now prefer these batteries over the iphone 14 pro which I’m currently typing on. I know I’ve swerved off topic a little, but we buy this gear for our safety on the roads. I’d like to know that it’s not at the cost of other children’s safety when mining for the colbolt batteries. With these light, I can rest a little better knowing they haven’t had this stuff put in them as of YET. nevertheless, they are excellent light especially when paired with that remote I demonstrate in another video. So handy especially in the winter with gloves and multiple lights. I’d say go for them if wireless lights is your thing. If you want more powerful lights but with a bulky battery pack and wires, theres this company called designShine made by an independent American engineer. Fantastic lights. Still got them. Only problem they were bulky. But these from Bontreger are just what i need.
My tail light keeps dying when the bike sits. I charge it fully and if I don't ride it for some days it's dies. I know it has that blue little light the flashes when it's off so is that draining it? Thank you.
I’ve had mine sit for two weeks with the Bluetooth on ( blue flashing light) and its fine. Maybe you’ve got a faulty product. Try restarting it if possible that might help. Extreme cold or hot weather also plays a big factor on batteries. My bike is stored in my house 15-25 degrees centigrade.
Where can I buy that set of lights?
When I turn on the front light, it starts to heat up. Is this normal?
If it’s on the high setting, it should only heat up a little bit. Not too much. If it’s very hot, then I think you might have a faulty product.
Sir, can I get the Daytime 90 Lumens flashing at night if I don't turn on the sensor?
Hi, yes you can. If the sensor is off, you can access all modes any time.
⚠️But caution :
1- if you ride with daytime mode , you WILL piss off many drivers and they will become angry 😡
2- you will literally blind them in that critical moment, this is also dangerous because they won’t be able to judge how far they are from you when passing.
I highly advise against using Daytime ( 90 lumin) or the Daytime ( 45 lumin ) or even (25lumin )setting at night.
ONLY use night mode.
Thanks for detailed information.
Hi, can you tell me the measurements of the device please? Thanks
Front light:
length: 10.5cm, /width: 3cm, /hight: 3cm
Rear light:
length 3cm, / width: 2.9/ hight: 3.6cm
Hi. How can I disable the ANT+ and Bluetooth connection?
Hold down the button for a total of 16 seconds. After 8 seconds there will be a flash. After the second 8 seconds there will be another flash. It will now be off.
@@abbreviateTome Thanks for the quick reply. Have a nice day!
Maurinho Info No worries. You too ✌️
@@abbreviateTome - Thank you SO MUCH for that tip. My Edge 130 was taking over my headlight and I could not take back control. I was really having problems finding the solution. I executed the procedure you outlined and voilá - they are now unpaired and I can again control my headlight. Thanks again :)
Which will be better Bontrager Flare Rt Or Ravemen Tr300 ?
I have not tested the Ravemen Lights.
Before the Bontrager, I had some awesome lights from Designshine with 500 Lumens ( czcams.com/video/NyjPNub3sKE/video.html ) made in house in the USA 🇺🇸.
Those were the only daytime lights I could find back in 2012. But they were bulky and extremely heavy.
I later preferred the Bontrager because :
1- They are much smaller in size and compact.
2- they’ve conducted scientific research to see how Driver’s react czcams.com/video/djUHht74r-s/video.html
3- They can be controlled by remote or a Garmin computer
4- No need for cables/wires.
5- they have a unique flash pattern which catches the attention of drivers. Also, Instead of high Lumens like the good old days, the bontrager’s have FOCUS beam which directs scattered light towards drivers. ( so think of the concept of lasers. They are low lumen but are very bright).
By the looks of the ravemen Rt300, they seem to have more lumens but look much bulkier although they seem to fit aero seat post right out of the box . But like I said, I haven’t tested them, and also lumens alone is not enough to be considered a safety feature, light patterns and FOCUSed light are important factors.
Remember, the brightest light is the sun ☀️. No light can match the sun’s lumens. So that’s why Focus beam technology in bontrager is important for me.
@@abbreviateTome you are right but as I have already have Two of the Ravemen Pr 2400, so I will stick to Ravemen. I am a Ravemen fan.
Try Ravemen Pr 2400 the best bike front light till now available in the market. High & Low Beam.....
Can you connect it to Wahoo via Ant+?
sorry for the late reply, Unfortunately not.
How does the wireless connection reconnect?
cartelefonos
Hi, with the lights off, Hold down the button for 15 seconds followed by two light flashes will turn on the ANT+ & Bluetooth. ( it instantaneously reconnects to my Bontrager transmitter remote).
Then when you’re done riding, turn them off by holding down the button for 15 seconds followed by two light flashes and it will turn off.
But if you’re doing it for the first time, it’s a different procedure.
@@abbreviateTome I do not have the light connected to the transmitter, and I do not turn on the blue light by pressing and holding the button for 15 seconds. You could tell me another method to connect the wireless transmission. Thank you.
cartelefonos sure, no problem.I shall make a new video on how to connect the lights within two hours from now.
@@abbreviateTome thank you!!
cartelefonos you’re welcome. You can check out the new video, It’s now uploaded.
Is it water resistant?
Hi, yes it is. IPX7.
I believe I’ve mentioned/written it in the disruption. Check out the other awesome features too. Thanks for watching.
Short answer: no. Mine died after one ride when it rained.
These lights are highly functional but they only last for 1 year (I have had 3 of them) before the battery and/or the switches fail, and cannot be replaced which for the price, is ridiculous.
Wow, only a year ! Mine are still working. Where are you buying them from? and I wonder if you’re sealing the lights properly after charging.
@@abbreviateTome I wanted to mention that I was in no way trying to diminish your review. Furthermore I discovered that the ligts have a two year warranty so I brought them back and they (Trek Maple Ridge, BC) gave me two new ones without any hissing. The replacement lights also have a 2 year warranty.
Best wishes Yusuf
@@TheRobertKlein I never took it that way bro 🤜🤛. I was genuinely shocked they only lasted a year. Good thing they honoured their warranty. Best of luck with the new set 🙏
Mine stopped workind after being in a rain
That is strange, these are IPX7 rated, which means it can withstand being submerged in water up to 1 Meter for 30 minutes. Were you sure that you properly closed the sealants after charging? if so, take it back. They should cover it under their warranty.
I have used mine, and have jet washed the top half of my bike with the light still on, no problems for me so far.
@@abbreviateTome i did but i used it upside down but the usb cover was closed properly. I dont have the receipt anymore i bought it a few months back. Only used it about 3 times. Practically brand new. Still Have the box and everything.
£150 gone to waste.
@@DippySippy I would suggest opening a ticket on Trek’s website as a last resort. See what they tell you, they might just be able to help out.
@@abbreviateTome i hope so. I will try to do it tomorrow. Hopefully they might help. I got the ion 100 one and used it for a long time in the rain. No issues or whatsoever.
Very upsetting this is 😏
@@abbreviateTome Thanks mate i got in touch with them. Sent them my old one. And they have replaced it. Im so greatful. What a great company. I thought i wasted
150 just like that.
you look kind of like the toxic avenger
Mickey Romeo duuude lol. I actually had a figure of him 😂. Along with Bone head and his motorcycle.
if your going to do a review people make sure your audio is up so people can hear, cant hear a word your saying with out max volume.
Photoshopuzr Thanks dude. Noted ! If you’re on your phone, maybe some headphones will help. I can hear it on my iphone7+ clearly. I’ll use a mic next time though ✌️. If you’ve got any questions about the lights. Feel free to ask.
Everyone can hear the dude perfectly. You are a complete morón.