Discover the Truly Unique Ancient Techniques of Pankration: The Ancient Greek Combat Sport
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One of the key aspects of fighting is the utilization of hand-strikes: be it closed-fist or open-hand techniques. In this video, we’ll explore how Pankration differed with boxing with regard to its approach to the matter, as well as some of its more popular techniques.
Chapters:
- Introduction: 0:00 - 1:15
- Standard Boxing Techniques and Vectors of Attack: 1:15 - 2:03
- Himantes (Ancient Boxing Gloves): 2:03 - 3:20
- Pankration’s Open-Hand Approach: 3:20 - 4:50
- Popular Techniques: 4:50 - 5:27
- Pankration Ruleset: 5:27 - 6:11
- Outro: 6:11 - 7:02
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Awesome!
Much appreciated
The Pankration stance looks almost exactly like the long guard in Muay Thai, down to the orientation of the hips and the foot placement and weight distribution!
Interesting how similar the original stance is to a muay Thai stance
That really surprised me
It makes alot of sense too when you realize that Alexander the great brought pankration to southeast asia.
@@jayceazar1476 he didnt make it to india how would he reach south east asia?
@@theguy9166he did make it to india, he crossed the indo river in north india.
@@juanpablosimonbrun1408 got his ass beaten too
calithenics, and mma training, healthy shape and self defense abilities. i wish i had some pankration classes here but anyways, lets keep growing. I fucking love this channel
The Pankration stance reminds me very much of a Muay Thai stance.
Great video; I never knew about the open-hand strikes in Pankration. There's so much for us to learn, and I appreciate the hard work and great editing, Tommy.
That was the Bas Rutten's (shown in the video) game
Its crazy how we look back on how advanced these ancient martial arts actually were. In two thousand years maybe they'll look at Muay Thai and BJJ the same way we look at this.
Nah! Pankration was more bloody than that. They would off think the rules of MMA are for woosies. Men at that time had more balls than the Gracies, they didn’t use their own rules, fighting at that time was bloody and expecting to die.
Thanks for answering my question about the back fist in boxing
Another excellent video as always 🥊💯.
Outstanding!!! Your videos are so cool
great stuff as always
Amazing content, great video !
gosh I loved this. Thank you.
Waow, the gloves are quite interesting. Didn't know they had such back then.
Interesting video, thanks !
Nice Bas Rutten clips. He sure knows how to deliver effective palm strikes !
Great video would love to see pankration in the olympics
Unfortunally thw olympics right now is a f*ing joke. I opt for just let the olympics to be the ancient Sports. I mean today,karate with no ko s, walking, air pistol (why not just use real guns) sailing, canoe slalom, yeah you get my point
Can’t wait to see what comes next
Nice that you're talking about the ancient version and not the modern version
As a martial artist myself, I kind of want to learn some of these strikes the movements, and all that so I could start practicing some of that one of my last tactical martial artist instructors once said, never underestimate the power of an open palm strike, so yeah, I very much like to training this one if I could learn a little bit more about it to do so that is
Thank you for the video! As a former practitioner many years ago I was fortunate enough to be taught all of this by a true master, but this is the first video on youtube I see it recognised. Very well done too! Reviving the old ways into a modern version would be truly something to behold!!!
What's the name of this "true master" you speak of?
@@AMOPankration It's been many years ago, don't remember the whole name sorry, just got Giorgos. The place is closed or moved. Also, there were flying elbows too. Unfortunately today's competitive form is nothing like the original, then again many martial arts have elements and strikes not allowed in official competitions. If you'd like some more info on gym name, location, year etc, feel free to message me.
@@AMOPankration i got a question are elbow strikes and knee strikes allowed in pankration
I’d rather they keep the old ways. Making it modern makes things too gentle and I feel it would disrespect the pankrtion style.
@@user-ex9pl8eh7c you spent years learning from this guy but don't remember his name or details?
Marisa brought me here
This is so cool
Love to hear about pankration
Awesome video as always, tho i gotta ask, will you ever release a book on pankration?
I'd rather make a movie, but need to prove that there's interest first. One can only hope
@@AMOPankration
I'm interested for sure.
Thanks
Cheers!
Gotta love Bas’ palm strikes :)
Pankration in the Olympics would be so exciting.
Excellent video! Do you know of other depictions of a retreating jab? There are a lot of depictions in hoplite warfare of a warrior attacking to their side/behind them while retreating from their opponent and I always wondered if this was a practical matter or an artistic convention.
I read Sam Langford had a technique, when his blindness was getting worse, where he'd lay a palm on a bare part of your body and then thrust the heel of the palm as a way to read where you were and hurt you simultaneously.
you should do a a video with "the modern martial artist"
I don't think there was a rule to not strike with the knuckles of a fist, just like how I don't see round house kicks in pankration, they aren't worth the risk of breaking your hand or shin bone; effectively losing. And with hard bones at play, that risk is heightened even through accidental damage. In my belief, in open hand combat, it's not worth throwing round house kicks. But rather kick with the heel or bottom of foot, rather than the shin. As well as using open palms and the more fleshy part of the side of the fist used in hammer fists to keep power, but not risk breaks.
Where did you find all of these pottery images? Do you know what museums they are located in?
I was in NAMA last year and did not see anything like this
Were there any rules to how the hands were wrapped like the materials had rules
@AMO Pankration were standing kicks allowed to head?
Is it weird I'd like to see a mix of this and old judo which its standing fighting/grapples? As both cared about not going to crazy against the opponent from what I recall. More just technique/strength/showmanship
Didn't pan creation include grappling as well?
Very good video but have you considered that sumo wrestlers have also coliflower ears and they strike with their palms? Pankreaton Matches were sure very short like in mma unlike boxing there are not a lot of rounds.
as a boxer and a FMA he is most likely using his off hand like that is a distraction while ranging
Imagine the evolution of Sports in next few thousand of years!
amazing video ! do you know the name of the stele shown in 4:07 ? i can't find it
Not sure I know its name, it's a relief from the National Archaeological Museum of Athens. I took the picture and video shown. Follow me on social I'll post them later today.
@@AMOPankration thank you very much !
I know palm strikes from karate, nice that greeks were on it too
I'm here because of Street Fighter 6 and muscle mommy Marisa
Muscle mommy supremecy
West has gone gay
@@user-vm9we7fs4d un(fortunately) it's always been gay
Is there any record of pressure point/combat accupuncture in pankration? I know ancient hindus valley civilization had martial accupressure methods
What is your interest? Just knowledge and a love of learning? Or do you want to learn to use "pressure points"
Best presire pootn is the under of the jaw and philtrum
I don't know about acupuncture, but I once read that the ancient Greeks believed in "numa", which, I believe, translates to "breath" or "air", which was supposed to travel through the body along meridians. Sounds a lot like "chi" to me. And Alexander did make it into India, bringing Greek culture with him. And all the Asian martial arts look to India as the original source.
From what i know, acient martial usually come from imitative animals. In a story, that i heard, pankration was teached to men by centaurus Cheiron. So any chance this martial art is imitative from horse's movement?
No its not
Some ancient pottery shows Centaurus holding leg locks on Greeks.
Chiron the centaur and other mythical creatures were of course used to emphasize certain elements of combat
That being as strong as a horse was a benefit
And footwork/ mobility was a key element of that
Horses dont fight, men do
Blending the strategy of man with the athletic attributes of a horse was probably portrayed as the ideal
Hence these myths
In the end , all martial arts are based on nothing more than physics and biology and neither of those things have changed in the time of our recorded history . And in that same time period, we have been steadily beating the crap out of each other, so it is very unlikely we are truly doing anything new . Just re-discovered .
Yeah. People are surprised by palm strikes despite the fact that both ancient and many modern martial arts use them (Muay Boran,Karate, etc) In order to protect the fists since the fist is no different today.
Wait.. you said there were no deaths in pankration but wasn't there a famous olympic games winner named Arrhichion of Phigalia who won the match despite dying during the fight.
This is answered in the "Top 5 Myths" video.
@@AMOPankration kk thanks will check it out
In the Book Sports and Recreation in Ancient Greece author Waldo Sweet tell this same story and afaik it's a direct translation of the Ancient Greek original text
Ehhh Elbow strikes cause significantly more damage than a closed fist. Hear me out, we know that the knockouts in mma, muay thai, and bare knuckle boxing are far more brutal than the knockouts in boxing the majority of the time, yet we don't see nearly as much cte or traumatic brain injury. The reason is actually the padding, it acts much like hearing loss not from big abrupt events that can be taken semi frequently but rather prolonged exposer. This is being recorded in all contact sports and the increase in padding is not good for the longevity of athletes. It doesn't make sense to me that elbows would be allowed but closed fist strikes wouldn't. Maybe a progression of each style of fighting then ending with full contact strikes and grappling? Maybe amateurs and professionals had slightly different rule sets for the health and wellness of athletes? I bring that up because that's exactly what we do today in combat sports. I love your videos I'm new to your channel and share a passion for the this and all other combat sports as well I just wanted to offer another perspective keep up the great work bro!
Wasnt there a legend about a pankration fighter killing another by essentially disembowelling him with a spear hand strike to the abdomen, which was seen as unsportsmanlike so he lost even tho he killed his opponent? Well i read about a legend like that anyway
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It looks more like Kung Fu to me. The palm strikes and the stances.
Those moves
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Jon
Most Famous Do Samson
Imagine if the Physical Education program for children in western culture was Gymnastics and Grappling? We'd have a generation of strong healthy children and maybe obesity wouldn't be more dangerous than starvation
Western culture and modern culture more generally wants worthless slave-consumers whose corpuses are designed to sit behind a desk hunched over a laptop all day, not strong citizens.
Good luck with forcing people to exercise Karen
Also why gymnastics and wrestling? We already have that as sports forcing people to do those sports is dumb
Did they all fight naked? Is there a chance of a league like that in the future? 😂
Because they’re gay
shoot wrestling