If they made Sonia the Mastermind they should have made her the real Sparkling Justice and the reason the killing game was set up was to punish everyone because they were Ultimate Despairs and Sonia didn't agree Makoto's rehabilitation plans.
I oddly see Kiyotaka Ishimaru as a mastermind since he’s the ultimate moral compass. Imagine the person who’s so uptight and high on morals being the mastermind. I honestly would love to see the morality in that
If Kaede keept being the protagonist ,Shuishi being the mastermind would be cool, the person who represents the true being the mastermind would fit in the theme of truth and lies, how Shuishi would be the one who made the entire fictional world (he being the 2nd ultimate detective in the series) everyone trusted him the entire game, this and how Kaede would feel betrayed after all they did together would make a great plot twist
It would've been pretty cool too if you played through the whole game as shuichi only to find out you have been playing as the mastermind the whole time. It would probably be hard to pull off tho if it was actually done in game.
I see Chihiro as great mastermind material. Like idk. The whole alter ego thing, the "wanting to be stronger" motive and the fact that Chihiro is a character that is easy to sympathize with makes a great plot twist. Like what would have happened if Chihiro caused the tragedy because he wanted to feel strong and superior. And if Chihiro was the mastermind then it would be fair for Chiaki to be the second game's mastermind
@@alieenzz Another thing is that, by that case, it might not even matter if Chihiro dies during the game, adding to the idea of the students being in a prison of their own design.
This is a pretty well known but nevertheless a Fun Fact - Akane Owari was originally gonna be the antagonist instead of Nagito! I dunno if she wouldve been the mastermind per say, but i still think it was a cool concept!
There was some art for this and from that it looked like Akane was going to be a rival to Hajime in the trials. Solely off what I saw, it looked like she was going to challenge Hajime's arguments so basically like a scrum debate but instead of everyone in the debate, it's just a one vs one with Hajime against Akane. However, that's all just speculation from my part so I don't know what the actual intention was
@@Alexandra_Westheart I I thought Akane was just supposed to be his rival as they are kinda similar but different for example Green and Red compliment eachother (those are Akane and Hajimes main colours as their other shared colour is white) Hajime means Beginning Whilst Owari means to end or the end And that's about it, I'm pretty sure people also see that one image with Imposter, Akane, Chiaki, and Hajime. But for all we know Akane couldve been a helper, and she sometimes disagrees with the protag (also because they have very different views on life, and their living situations, I mean Akane is one of the few characters that we know was Poor, whilst I imagine Hajimes parents to be richer because the reserve course costs alotta money)
Would've been interesting if Kaedae was the actual protagonist and Shuichi was her sidekick\mastermind. the trusty ultimate detective everyone relies on to solve the murders.
I've actually done something similar for the fangan I'm making! There's a girl, and her ultimate is the Ultimate Therapist. The reason why I thought it would be interesting for *her* of all people to be the mastermind is because of her talent and her overall crazy personality. Her, being a therapist, every other student would vent to her and tell her secrets, allowing her to know more information about the individual, and can use that against them. She would also know a lot about psychology, so she could understand the thought process of her fellow classmates after they talk for a while. I'm really proud of myself for making this idea, but I'm not sure how to put it into action. (And funny thing my user name is her name debkhkfebmfe)
@@helpilostmybeanie1868 one way to put this great idea in action would be making she what they did it with kaito. A guy that everyone in the game love and would die for him because of his attitude. And take this kinda of role and give to Aya. She could be a Big sister type of person, the one that everyone respects and loves, because she take care of then and their problems, and then she becames the mastermind and despair is everywhere! Thats just my idea.
SHUICHI SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE V3 MASTERMIND. Think about it Keade the original protagonist was killed you got despair by that right? Now imagine if Shuichi moved on quickly from Keade’s death and was all of a sudden more optimistic. Now most people wouldn’t notice this rushed character arc but some will. Then Shuichi reveals himself to be the mastermind. Or maybe Kaito? Would have been cool if he comes back in chapter 6 and ruins everything. Now I wonder what actually happened between Kokichi and Kaito in the hanger if Kaito was the mastermind.
I find this really cool. I would like to see Kaede still dead so chapter one would be the same. But later in chapter six it is reveled to be that Shuichi is the mastermind. So he would say that Kaede's death ment nothing to him.
@@masteroob4523 true, but that would only imply if he wasnt too important in the trials if kaede lived. if hes sort of a mini-protagonist, like kyoko, it wouldnt be seen coming
@@DerpyHiro It does seem like Atua is actually real in the game however. In the first investigation Atua tells Angie to "watch the monopad" which becomes a pivotal point at the end of the game, and then later says that the mastermind was hiding in the room. Waiting for the moment to strike. Both of which ended up being true. Then, later, her resolve to stop wanting to leave the academy and not use Flashback lights would have actually worked given the audience would get bored eventually and the flashback lights being fake just as a tool to manipulate them. To go even further to explain how Atua started being "wrong" after the first trial (I don't remember Atua ever actually being wrong in ch1) I think the first flashback light influenced her personality and so she started using Atua as a scapegoat for her own ideas and feelings with Atua saying very little in reality. Not to mention that in ch1 she also acted fairly normal aside from the blood offerings thing. With how close she was in the first trial to blowing the lid off the whole thing, the mastermind would have panicked and wanted to discredit her. So she made her into a nut job that used a god to make excuses for her actions. And nobody cared what she had to say anymore.
I would like to see kazuichi and Sonia as the mastermind because kazuichi has the mechanic skills to create the neo world program and Sonia would have the money to get the materials to create the neo world program
But making the neo world program is more about programming rather than stuff like machines. Yeah sure maybe the machines to have the neo world program function but I don’t think he could make the program itself
@@silas901 yeah also the 3 creators of the neo world program are known Chihrio Fujisaki, Miaya Gekkohohara, and I forget the boys name but he dated Ryoko
Actually chiro as the mastermind could probably be the biggest twist. Think about it a shy timid boy that pretend to be a girl was in fact the mastermind not only that but he is the ultimate programer meaning hw could hack into any machine tv station military base etc. Also he could very well make the neo world program virus also he could make chiaki the mastermind in the second game cause he could have infected chiaki with the virus. Not only that but chiro is smart sure he seems timid but it doesn't change the fact that he is highly intelligent. Overall this qualities make chiro a very scary and possibly a more threat than junko but that's my opinion
I really would have liked to see one of the killers from the third game being the mastermind since the first game it was someone who was killed, in two it was someone who had nothing to do with the killing game, and the third it would be a killer, I really thought that Kaede was the mastermind for the longest time based on this theory and I would have liked to see it.
I think when I posted this I meant someone who was deemed the blackened and than they show up later in the game as a mastermind, but that’s a good point!
@@winkledrop7001 Interesting probably unintentional parallel since they don't share VAs in the original Japanese, Sayaka usually has blue eyes that go gray when she's freaking out/despairing/whatever. Tsumugi normally has grayish eyes that go bright blue when she slips especially far into Mastermind mode
Tsumugi’s god or atua is Izuru Kamakura, since Angie said that you can imagine your god however you want. So I’d believe that Atua would be the mastermind.
@@yuriasss yeah also whenever it s mentioned people are like "Celestia" and I'm like they constantly use He/Him for Atua, or at least Tsumugi does and Angie never corrects her, and last time I checked Celestia dosent use He/Him pronouns
@@zookeeps1340 Well Angie says that her God (Atua is an actual polynesian God so I'll just use a nameless one instead, just like in the japanese version) shows differently to every other person. But Angie definitely uses he/him pronouns for her God, despite telling Gonta that her God is like a gentle grandmother to him.
I'd agree. The idea of the player character turning out to be the mastermind would be an interesting twist. It may be difficult to pull off well just due to all the scenes he's in. If the twist comes out of nowhere with no hints, people would be upset, but dropping too many hints would take away the impact of the revelation.
I think Nagito could have been a good mastermind. He'd cause more despair amongst the others to watch hope shine, or something like that. His motive would basically just be hope lmao. But yeah, I think seeing him in a mastermind form could have been pretty cool as well. Everything could have been good about it, except for the fact that you are slightly led to believe he may be the traitor because of how he acted. The other characters all had that suspicion, possibly trying to make the player believe that as well. So if it did turn out that way, I can see why it might be a bit weak since he was a suspect for a while. But yeah other than that, Nagito as a mastermind is a pleasing thought to me.
My potential masterminds where Miu: sense she's an inventor I thought she was a crazy towa group member pretending to be a hopes peak student her accomplice would be kiibo sense he's a robot like monokuma and they did feel close during the game Gonta: I thought gonta was pretending to be dumb for a long time sense he had a few times where he sounded too smart his accomplice would be kokichi sense they hung out a lot and wouldn't it be crazy if gonta was the real ultimate leader and kokichi was just lying like he did the whole game Sonia: she's a princess she has the power plus she was kind of boring but always suspicious so being the mastermind or would have been cool her accomplice would be kazuichi maybe he's like a henchmen who built the robots so his random attachment to her makes more sense Chihiro: well she is the ultimate programmer so making robots makes sense if you think about it also her kind of soft and shy personality could have easily been faked i dont know who would be her accomplice tho (tell me if you have any ideas)
@@ghostlyflamingo07 I would love it if Kokichi was the ultimate gambler. I mean, Shuichi had the same ultimate as a previous player despite them not being connected, so ig it can work. It just doesn't make sense to me how he's an ultimate leader when leaders aren't supposed to lie and stuff (unless he became a leader through manipulating everyone etc). Also he gives off major manipulative thief vibes, which fits a gambler.
I actually made a few rewrites with a mastermind Kirumi, Gonta, and Rantaro!- Rantaro's motive was revenge for being in a KG and wanted to put others through the same pain and despair as he was in. Gonta's motive- iscurrentlyaworkinprogess And Kirumi's motive was she was tired of being bossed around and realized how much power and control she has and could gain- she wanted to become a dictator of the sorts. So in order to put that in motion she made and recorded the KG to threaten the people: "This is what I can do, don't go against me".
that Kirumi explanation actually makes a ton of sense with her job as prime minister and the ch6 plot twist somehow, i went into 2 thinking hiyoko would be a blackened or the mastermind
I thought Mondo was the mastermind. Here's my theory Chihiro could of been a witness of him planning executions or whatever and killed him and then he faked his death because how could someone turn into butter. And maybe him being friends with Ishimaru is an act.
so chihiro death be like "oh boy gotta do this execution thingy" "hey mondo whatcha doin" "nothing" *commits kiLL* "owo now I need to think of something edgy to fake this"
okay hear me out what if mondo really died in the execution but he come back as kiyondo, basically mondo's spirit is possesing taka and turned him into kiyondo. so he's using taka as his vessel or something like that and alter ego is his right hand man because alter ego is the reason taka turned into kiyondo
What if they made a danganronpa game that you could get a different mastermind every time with different murders and story it would be fun (sorry if i wrote something wrong english is not my first language)
I see Toko as a good mastermind. Because of her spilt personality, she wouldn’t really know what the other is up to, even if they share emotions. Kyoko would also be a good one, as she was the “point women” and would really destroy Makoto’s trust. The Ultimate Imposter was kind of an obvious one.
In the first game, if it wasn't for spoilers and people cosplaying Junko everywhere, I would've thought Sayaka was going to be the mastermind. Think about it, the person closest to you in the game, who is in fact loved by almost everyone, being the mastermind would be very despair inducing. With her being the first one to start with the killing, and with Makoto gaining motivation and hope to fight for all of his friends deaths (but mainly for her), all to be crushed at the end by her reveal. It'll also make Makoto's hope speech even more inspiring because knowing someone close to you is the mastermind and defeating them is way harder than defeating someone you don't have any emotional attachment to. Another (popular) one would be Makoto. Now I know mastermind! Makoto is pretty popular, but this is my take on it. We know that Makoto is a bit insecure about being average, so I imagine him starting the killing game would be due to his jealousy. Besides, in chapter 1 he had one of the strongest motives to kill. Stronger that Sayaka's I daresay. We know that most of the cast have had a hard life outside (ex:Toko, Taka, Mondo, etc...) but makoto had a fairly normal life, arguably the best life out of all of the cast. So isn't it suspicious that he didn't even think about killing someone? It's because he knows it's useless. His family is fine and he can go outside whenever he wants to. He'd make a pretty cool mastermind, although I think this twist would be a bit early for the first game.
I would really like to see Kaito as the mastermind in V3 tbh- Like.. A person who belives in everyone and hates lies being a biggest fricking liar and mastermind? That would be really cool tbh Same about Mahiru in DR2. I could imagine her wanting a "special" photos or some stuff, going insane, falling into despair and hoasting a killing game, just so she can get "pictures"
If Kaito was the mastermind, I would have cried. Seeing my favorite character in the whole game revealed to be the mastermind would have broken me, but it would be cool to see
I love Kaito, he’s literally my favorite character in the entire series, and that would’ve shattered me, but I’m not against it, that’d be pretty cool actually!
honestly, i think it would be really cool if Sayaka ended up being the mastermind if she lived, she’d be your assistant, staying with you and eventually the player would develop trust for her. And i just think it would be so cool to see that the person you’ve been trusting and spending nearly every day with was the one who had caused the killing game.
I want a protag to be the mastermind though. Because the protags are always calling each other friends and get over people's deaths in two or more days after bonding. It would be cool too if it were a surprise at the end and making it seem not obvious but giving hints at it. Like going in their rooms more often and separating from the group or staying ramdomly quiet at times.
Mastermind Leon. He was the first character to get executed and has a lot of Easter eggs throughout the series. I think it would be really interesting if he was revealed the be the mastermind. Better yet, Leon and Sayaka as the masterminds. The first two to die would be a really surprising couple to be in charge of the killing game and their deaths starting the killing game would be very interesting considering you would find out they didn’t even die.
So glad to finally find a fellow Mastermind Leon enjoyer! I honestly think Mastermind Leon would probably be some of the most unexpected plot twists ever considering the fact that he died so early on and has a personality that you wouldn't really expect from someone so evil that they trap innocent highschoolers inside a killing game
The Yasuhiro positivity is very much welcome. I love the guy and I'm glad that he isn't being absolutely shit on in this video like what I've seen in other videos.
One funny thing I would like to see would be if two people were the mastermind together like in v3 it would be Kaede and Shuichi or kaito and maki, and in 2 it could have been gundam and Sonia or fyuhiko and peko
tbh i kind of thought of this before, but miu and gonta. when they get caught out, they release a bunch of robotic wasps and venomous centipedes and escape as the only human survivors, after wiping keebo's data including his memories.
theres something like that on this fan project called "i am the mastermind" each character gets a "mastermind interview" and kokichi and kaito's were paired together, you can look it up if you want
I see Mikan as great mastermind material, wanting to be just like Junko, powerful, feared, and even looked up to. Its canon that Mikan enjoys nursing other because of that feeling of power she gets, which I totally understand. She likes this rush of power because of her past. I feel like she'd be a reasonable mastermind because of wanting to be like the person she admires and wanting power over people.
I think Kyoko being the mastermind will be cool. Because her father was the headmaster and she really didn't like him much. So that would be cool if she was a mastermind.
Characters I think that were perfect as the MM ~Kyoko Kirigiri~ Because she was super sus in my eyes and what she tryed to do to Makoton in Ch.5 + she was suposed to be the Mastermind instead of Junko Enoshima ~My waifu Sayaka Maizono or best boy Chihiro Fujisaki~ They are both the cute, nice and innocent ones and it would be a cool Twist if they would be the Masterminds. Chihiro was the Ultimate Programme. +They both would have lived longer. ~Byakuya Togami~ He is rich and could organize a Killing Game ~Sonia Nevermind~ Because as the Ultimate Princess she would have the power to organize a Killing Game. ~Kaede Akamatsu or Shuichi Saihara~ If Kaede didn't died in Ch.1 it would be cool to see her reaktion if Shuichi was the Mastermind or Shuichi's reaktion if Kaede was the Mastermind and it would be a shocking twist to the player too. ~Kirumi Tojo~ If the DRV3 cast were real Ultimates and if their backstory was real it would be a cool twist if the Ultimate Maid was the Mastermind and the Primeminister of Japan. ~Miu Iruma~ She kinda looked like Junko and she was the Ultimate Inventor.
I feel like Celeste would make a good mastermind, I mean her specialty is lying and being manipulative. She was basically the one who told everyone to go into lockdown at night, telling them that it’ll keep them safe and because she’s great at lying she could run circles around everyone. I mean, during her trial she had executed her murder plan perfectly, manipulating Hifumi into doing the dirty work and offing him at the end, framing Yasuhiro as the culprit, I mean had it not been for the robot suit and Hifumi revealing her last name she could’ve undoubtedly gotten away scott free.
If mahiru was the mastermind, i wouldn't even be sad. Anything but AI Junko, and also, my waifu survives until the end of the game, so that's even better Mahiru deserved better >:(
I agree Sonia was very suspicious in almost all of the trials for some reason. That is why I think it's funny that she isn't the mastermind or a blackened.
There were multiple times when I thought that the story turns out for Hajime to be the mastermind for 3 main reasons: 1. He didn't have an ultimate talent the entire time whilst the main protag was him in one person. 2. Both Naegi and Shuichi refers to each others role as behave like detectives but having many opportunities from multiple possible masterminds to kill them, they both got away with it, Hajime is having a hidden Remnants of Despair self who is obviously non-other than Izuru Kamukura. The true identity of the same person as the mastermind. In this matter Nagito taking the Hope role like how Naegi, Hajime and Keebo took it normally, faking that he believes in hope whilst he pretend that, but he is so damn lucky even without his knowledge another hope rises which actually help him and the rest of the students out of the killing game, furthermore preventing Chiaki from being murdered. If Nagito and Hajime both switching sides like that, the tables could turn not 180, not 360 but 720 degrees this way without the plot being harmed. 3. Junko already died and so the writer could've lead Junko to be an AI only who has nothing to do with anything happen with the school regulations, nor with Monokuma, but Hajime actually continuously cooperate with Usami who inderectly made Hajime make mistakes. Usami was the one taken down the giant version of Junko Enoshima, but for Usami, who hates violations would make sense for not killing Junko's AI. As Usami used her power to kill Junko's AI then she must be no different than Monokuma, which refers everything back to Hajime and his unknown ultimate talent. These were real potentials for us to be playable characters and being the mastermind simultaneously. Chunsoft didn't think the plot that way. SDR2 could've been even better this way.
would it be cool if shuichi or kaede will be the mastermind in v3, instead of killing kaede she stays alive and discover the indenty of who the mastermind is and it's of course her closest friend shuichi having red eyes.
Komaru is a possibility. And it could make for a very emotional sense especially for Makoto and it could be the one time where we don’t see his happy go lucky attitude and instead we see him with pure ( if you can even call it that) Despair.
I think Chiaki could have made an amazing mastermind. I've always has this idea where a Mary Sue is stereotypical waifubait, but then it turns out to all be a ploy. They know they're perfect and have no flaws, and they use this to their advantage to gain everyone's trust before revealing themselves as evil. Chiaki is a PERFECT candidate for this.
Rantaro is pretty good boi, I wish he lived a bit longer in the main game tho since he had so much talk about ending the killing game than he would end up failing and living longer with that regret.
@@puppetmaster6412 It was said that after the creator of Danganronpa found Rantaro's voice actor he wanted to make Rantaro live longer but it was too late. (*´ω｀*)
When I first played sdr2, I was SO sure that """byakuya""" was either the mastermind, or the traitor, since the start, I think they had SO MUCH potential to be the mastermind, imagine if they could pretend to be someone PERFECTLY, like, you barely could tell the difference, and imagine if they took someones place after they """""died""""", that would have been SO COOL
I actually tought Yasuhiro would turn out to be the mastermind when I first played DR1 And I tought Hyioko would have turned out to be some kind of Junko's sucessor once the picture of her was revealed, plus her death wasnt very well explained in the game.
You suspected Sonia so much because of how boring and bland and inconsequential she is. Also she should have been either the killer in chapter 3 since she told Hiyoko about the Mirror. Or the one who caught the Despair disease instead of Ibuki. Her symptom could have been having a crush on Kazuichi. And they could have made this whole trope where Kazuichi started to be turned off by her liking him lol. Then in the trial we could have gotten him going bat shit insane, screaming and cursing at Mikan for killing his crush. And we could have had Ibuki going insane in the fun house and seeing her break in the last trial.... But no... they had to keep Sonia in cuz.... literally no reason. If she had been the mastermind then that would have given her something to work with lmao
Personally I believe Sonia shouldn’t have died. If you think about it if she died that’d be a ANOTHER girl who died for a boy to develop there was Sayaka, Peko and Kaede do we really need another? Also check out her free time events and she’s a big help in the trials.
@@animefi4612 killing off a lame, boring, girl to develop a guy, or killing off a fun, interesting, somewhat wise, emotional and caring girl for literally no reason cuz of a "disease" that was brought up out of the devs' butt holes for the sole purpose of having an ez cut in the numbers. Which death's more "disrespectful" lol.
I got a bit disappointed when in V2 Junko ended up coming back as the mastermind(I mean it was technically Izuru but he wasn't there most of the time) because I thought it would be fun trying to guess the mastermind again. I also think in V3 the fact that it was Tsumugi wanting to be like Junko made the mastermind reveals for V2 and V3 a bit disappointing and I would have much preferred the people listed in the video.
In my opinion, Shuichi being the mastermind is gonna be cool. Like in the first chapter, we don't play as Shuichi when he left to go check the people who went to the AV room, I would like to see him kill Rantaro and get away with it just because Kaede protected him, so Kaede is sacrificed just because she decided to protect Shuichi who happens to be the mastermind
Actually here's a plot idea in the final trial of dr2 if sonia was the mastermind, basically in the final trial sonia reveals that she was the mastermind the whole time and she changes her form and reveals that she was the princess of despair, however once she gets exposed she also reveals her name isn't sonia nevermind, it's sonia mastermind
Remember that opening part in V3 with Kaede and it says “Ultimate Revival” the entire time I thought Kaede was going to be revived and be the mastermind
There's also the fact that he's odd man out as far as the ages of everyone in the class goes - he's an adult from the beginning even with his memories stripped. That discrepancy makes suspecting him all the more reasonable. It makes sense to assume that if the mastermind were one of the classmates, it would be the one that doesn't belong in their cohort.
I would also like chihiro as a mastermind would be cool- I mean they always said that the danganronpa world was fictional and chihiro as an ultimate programmer would make it easier to make a fictional world. And also it would be so creepy with her saying mastermindly lines with his childish voice lol
Actually, Yasuhiro had a huge role in the final killing game which is in the Future Arc of the anime, where he got everyone out safely and such stuff like that.
I feel like my prime suspect as the mastermind in Danganronpa 2 was Mikan. I thought she was gonna be the mastermind because of one reason. Hiyoko was _really_ mean to Mikan. Well, she was mean to everyone, but Mikan in specific. I thought there were gonna be there was gonna be six people who survived again, and I thought Mikan and Hiyoko were gonna be one of the last survivors and Mikan would've revealed her secret. I wanted to see the look on Hiyoko's face when Mikan revealed that she was the mastermind. I also wanted Mikan's "beloved" Junko to be there too. When it was Junko again, it was still cool though. But I do think Mikan had very good potential.
When I first played sdr2 I thought Kazuichi was the mastermind and built could've built monokuma. That or he would be a good traitor with his trust issues and stuff.
I personally feel like Chiaki would've been the perfect person to be mastermind because of her role in the game and anime. She was an ai in the game meaning it would have been totally impossible for her code to be changed and make her evil, and it would just be a big plot twist to find out this kind loveable gamer girl wasnt just an ai but an evil ai who was making them go through all this, and it was also would contrast nicely with how in the anime Chiaki brought everyone together and if in the game she was the one tearing them apart.
What if Junko and Naegi were the masterminds and if all of this was just a game, a game between hope and despair, a game between Junko and Naegi who Monokuma is the referee. A game in the fictionnal world "Danganronpa" like it was told in V3. They played 53 killing games until the pawns themselves had enough. + What if in the 52 killing games before the last one both Naegi and Junko had a equal score and in the end nobody win (but technically Naegi win even if in the end Shuichi and the others reject hope an despair, they still optimistic). I am really going to far on this one X)...
Ibuki,Rantaro and Celestia would be good masterminds. Fun Fact; Atua is actually a god(and or spirit) in the real world. I believe it’s a Polynesian thing.
Imagine if you voted Keebo in chpt. 6 and got an alternate ending where Shuichi is the mastermind with Tsumugi just mortified by such a sudden change in the script
I always suspected something was off with Sonia, solely because of the Novoselic Kingdom itself. I kept waiting for someone to truly start questioning all this lore she was throwing out about a kingdom they'd never heard of and that couldn't be found on any maps. Her logic for its existence and cartographical exclusions always seemed flimsy at best (although I think that was just meant to be a meta joke) and I just assumed she was either lying about being the Ultimate Princess, lying about which kingdom she ruled, or lying about not being the mastermind.
I didn’t necessarily think she was the mastermind, but I had searched up who would kill Nagito in Danganronpa 2 before I went into the chapter. *Spoilers, I guess:* When I saw Komaeda’s body with the knowledge of Chiaki being the culprit, I thought that she might’ve had a dark, twisted, evil side of her. Komaeda’s corpse was a shock to me, and it immediately made me think that Chiaki was actually very cruel and had been bottling up her emotions throughout the game. She seemed emotionless throughout her free-time events (yes, of course I went through her events first), so I didn’t think it was off the table. Personally, I think it might’ve been cooler if Nagito had a sad death; it would’ve explained to me why the fan base has such a fascination with him. Alas, Komaeda was just a creepy, crazy, and weirdly sad boy and Chiaki was not the twist villain that I might’ve wanted.
Chiaki being the mastermind would've made so much sense considering the fact that she's the Ultimate Gamer and Danganronpa 2 is essentially a game (I mean it's technically a simulation but close enough). I could see her being twisted and evil enough to bring real people into a real killing game just because she got bored of video games and want to try playing with real people. And the fact that she was essentially a symbol of hope in canon would've worked so well with this version too-maybe she never got killed by Junko and is disappointed at the fact that her classmates are Remnants of Despair, so she willingly joined the Neo World Program to turn it into a killing game as a punishment for her classmates, under the guise of her "helping her friends out"? Maybe they could make it so that Chiaki looks like she's helping her classmates, but in reality she's guiding them towards despair with toxic positivity? And her execution would've been a perfect execution for a video game mastermind
4:30 now that i think about it, since the anime told that junko actual talent is predicting the future, but it was a secret, maybe yasuhiro is actually talentless and was just accepted by the principal in the school to cover up junko
there was a part in DR2 where someone said that the killing game would have to be organized by a very powerful organization, like Sonia's Novoselic kingdom or Fuyuhiko's Kuzuryu clan. i was convinced that Sonia and Fuyuhiko were co-masterminds for basically the whole game.
I headcannon that Chihiro could’ve been the mastermind, as he could have displayed things on all of the screens and only a person who is really experienced in tech could control Monokuma.
I thought it could be Byakya because hear me out he was tired of being able to buy his way out of everything but in a killing game he can’t buy his way out of that he also said something along the lines he enjoyed the game but that is not my main reason 😅
this may sound odd but i actually think makoto would make the perfect mastermind. he’s always considered as average and basic and boring, which draws almost no attention to him as everybody else is more notable, making him the least suspicious of being the mastermind. he even says to kyoko in chapter 6 of thh that someone as ordinary and basic as him can never be the mastermind. his reason for being the mastermind also fits well: because he’s so average he gets bored of how bland his life is, but he can’t do anything because it’s just who he is. but after finding out that despair can cure his boring, basic life, he wants to spread it so other normal people like him would no longer be bored of themselves. imagine that plot twist
just to add on to a hypothetical kaito mastermind idea. i remember the game talking about some gofer disease or something like that. kaito also became super sick with no explanation as to why. if he had this disease, that would've connected him to the world before the killing game. plus by the end, the survivors "win" by rejecting both hope and despair, thus ending the cycle that keeps danganronpa going. kaito could've enabled this cycle and the killing game itself by practically forcing everyone to chase after hope despite the despair everyone felt after each trial. that could be an interesting angle a mastermind would take to cause as much despair as possible
My first thought to alternate mastermind is Miu, she could of built all of the technology in the dome including K1-B0, she could have easily tampered the cameras in the beginning to leave her out of shot, she gets bored by normal stuff easily, and her mood swings are almost as drastic as Junko’s
In my opinion, mastermind Hiyoko would have been great. Hiyoko would still die with an unknown murder weapon, but that's only because she didn't actually die. Mikan inflicted with the remembering disease could help Hiyoko fake her death, and while everyone thinks that she's dead, Hiyoko could resume being a mastermind from behind the curtains. Her death looking forced in would fit perfectly with her being the actual mastermind.
I was convinced that Chihiro was the Mastermind until I started getting Mukuro clues, and even for a bit after that. Think about it; Everyone talked about how there has to be someone controlling Monokuma because he held conversations too complex for normal AI, but we _had_ an AI that held complex conversations - Alter Ego!
When my friend introduced me to Danganronpa I wondered if the game was randomized each time you play. It wasn't, but that would've been interesting if each time you played there's different cases & masterminds each time
If they made Sonia the Mastermind they should have made her the real Sparkling Justice and the reason the killing game was set up was to punish everyone because they were Ultimate Despairs and Sonia didn't agree Makoto's rehabilitation plans.
woah that should have been canon
Holy crap-
My god-
Write that down- WRITE THAT DOWN
YEASS
Imagine if the last words Kokichi heard from Kaito were "I'm The Mastermind"
Too much despair.
Kokichi:okay kaito start the hydralic press
Kaito:okay btw kokichi
Kokichi:what?
Kaito:i am the mastermind
Kokichi:WH- *get crush*
Kaito runs away witha evil laugj
Nice profile pic
Well that'd definitely crush his hope and replace it with despair-
@@DrowsyMauve you, i like you. I like this joke
*new world order intensifies*
Imagine if Gonta was the mastermind and him being stupid was just a facade
that would've been a really cool twist
i would have cried all day
@@DerpyHiro
*Gonta not good anymore*
I would love to see it.
What Gonta said about be a gentleman was lie.
I WOULD HAVE LOVED IT
*Everybody Acts So Sus But They Are Never The Mastemind.*
Yes
Its like danganronpa but in a nutshell lol
Its Junko Enoshima! It's always her!
Kokichi is typing....
That's another name for DanganRonpa
I oddly see Kiyotaka Ishimaru as a mastermind since he’s the ultimate moral compass. Imagine the person who’s so uptight and high on morals being the mastermind. I honestly would love to see the morality in that
Also his family used to work with the government
@@teamili7957 true!
My favorite AU is Mastermind!Taka honestly-
That does sound really cool-!
@@sheshe6580 same but also Mastemind!Chihiro is great
If Kaede keept being the protagonist ,Shuishi being the mastermind would be cool, the person who represents the true being the mastermind would fit in the theme of truth and lies, how Shuishi would be the one who made the entire fictional world (he being the 2nd ultimate detective in the series) everyone trusted him the entire game, this and how Kaede would feel betrayed after all they did together would make a great plot twist
Agreed, I would've honestly preferred the mastermind to be someone close to us rather than a side character
It would've been pretty cool too if you played through the whole game as shuichi only to find out you have been playing as the mastermind the whole time. It would probably be hard to pull off tho if it was actually done in game.
Proganist was mastermind in dv2 dv3 would be impossibley
Kokichi would be suffering
I reed Sushi
I see Chihiro as great mastermind material. Like idk. The whole alter ego thing, the "wanting to be stronger" motive and the fact that Chihiro is a character that is easy to sympathize with makes a great plot twist. Like what would have happened if Chihiro caused the tragedy because he wanted to feel strong and superior. And if Chihiro was the mastermind then it would be fair for Chiaki to be the second game's mastermind
*Cabinet Man starts playing*
INDEED
Then It's Linda match with V3 ending
Since it was virtual.
and since chihiro is the ultimate programmer he could’ve made the executions and control monokuma
@@alieenzz Another thing is that, by that case, it might not even matter if Chihiro dies during the game, adding to the idea of the students being in a prison of their own design.
This is a pretty well known but nevertheless a Fun Fact - Akane Owari was originally gonna be the antagonist instead of Nagito! I dunno if she wouldve been the mastermind per say, but i still think it was a cool concept!
There was some art for this and from that it looked like Akane was going to be a rival to Hajime in the trials. Solely off what I saw, it looked like she was going to challenge Hajime's arguments so basically like a scrum debate but instead of everyone in the debate, it's just a one vs one with Hajime against Akane. However, that's all just speculation from my part so I don't know what the actual intention was
@@DerpyHiro imagine if she was a murderer
I heard that she was supposed to be the Mastermind in SDR2
@@Alexandra_Westheart I I thought Akane was just supposed to be his rival as they are kinda similar but different for example Green and Red compliment eachother (those are Akane and Hajimes main colours as their other shared colour is white)
Hajime means Beginning
Whilst Owari means to end or the end
And that's about it, I'm pretty sure people also see that one image with Imposter, Akane, Chiaki, and Hajime. But for all we know Akane couldve been a helper, and she sometimes disagrees with the protag (also because they have very different views on life, and their living situations, I mean Akane is one of the few characters that we know was Poor, whilst I imagine Hajimes parents to be richer because the reserve course costs alotta money)
And at one point she was gonna be the ultimate sinner
Would've been interesting if Kaedae was the actual protagonist and Shuichi was her sidekick\mastermind. the trusty ultimate detective everyone relies on to solve the murders.
I've actually done something similar for the fangan I'm making! There's a girl, and her ultimate is the Ultimate Therapist. The reason why I thought it would be interesting for *her* of all people to be the mastermind is because of her talent and her overall crazy personality. Her, being a therapist, every other student would vent to her and tell her secrets, allowing her to know more information about the individual, and can use that against them. She would also know a lot about psychology, so she could understand the thought process of her fellow classmates after they talk for a while. I'm really proud of myself for making this idea, but I'm not sure how to put it into action.
(And funny thing my user name is her name debkhkfebmfe)
@@helpilostmybeanie1868 one way to put this great idea in action would be making she what they did it with kaito. A guy that everyone in the game love and would die for him because of his attitude. And take this kinda of role and give to Aya. She could be a Big sister type of person, the one that everyone respects and loves, because she take care of then and their problems, and then she becames the mastermind and despair is everywhere! Thats just my idea.
Arthur Dias
Oh, wow! That's actually a pretty good idea. Thanks!
That's crazy !!! I would totally love to see that !!!!
@@helpilostmybeanie1868 you're welcome, i like to make stories and i am gald that you liked my idea
bro Chihiro is a wayyy better mastermind, think about it
he looks innocent as heck
Alter ego doesnt save Kirigiri, just Makoto
C-Chihiro?!
@@kiyotakaishimarushslhallmo6503 I- arent you dead...
He saves only Makoto because of Makoto’s ultimate luck. I do agree otherwise though!
@@MillaMikakura, Is there something wrong..?
@@kiyotakaishimarushslhallmo6503 No
SHUICHI SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE V3 MASTERMIND.
Think about it Keade the original protagonist was killed you got despair by that right?
Now imagine if Shuichi moved on quickly from Keade’s death and was all of a sudden more optimistic. Now most people wouldn’t notice this rushed character arc but some will. Then Shuichi reveals himself to be the mastermind.
Or maybe Kaito? Would have been cool if he comes back in chapter 6 and ruins everything. Now I wonder what actually happened between Kokichi and Kaito in the hanger if Kaito was the mastermind.
Kaito just getting shot into space and being left there could be a great cover up
Shuichi is too obvious because everyone guessed he would be the mastermind
I find this really cool. I would like to see Kaede still dead so chapter one would be the same. But later in chapter six it is reveled to be that Shuichi is the mastermind. So he would say that Kaede's death ment nothing to him.
@@masteroob4523 true, but that would only imply if he wasnt too important in the trials if kaede lived. if hes sort of a mini-protagonist, like kyoko, it wouldnt be seen coming
@@marissaflores9665 that could work
Sonia Nevermind?
more like Sonia Mastermind
this was bad
Watch you get 100 likes for this and saying it’s bad this month lmao
Edit: haha I predicted the future praise me
Go get some milk
I-
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Eat your damn cereal
Atua is a real Hawaiian god, though.
Oops that's a big blunder on my part. I thought Atua was a fake god this whole time
It is very strange how Angie's Atua is right in the class trials at points.
@@DerpyHiro It does seem like Atua is actually real in the game however. In the first investigation Atua tells Angie to "watch the monopad" which becomes a pivotal point at the end of the game, and then later says that the mastermind was hiding in the room. Waiting for the moment to strike. Both of which ended up being true. Then, later, her resolve to stop wanting to leave the academy and not use Flashback lights would have actually worked given the audience would get bored eventually and the flashback lights being fake just as a tool to manipulate them.
To go even further to explain how Atua started being "wrong" after the first trial (I don't remember Atua ever actually being wrong in ch1) I think the first flashback light influenced her personality and so she started using Atua as a scapegoat for her own ideas and feelings with Atua saying very little in reality. Not to mention that in ch1 she also acted fairly normal aside from the blood offerings thing. With how close she was in the first trial to blowing the lid off the whole thing, the mastermind would have panicked and wanted to discredit her. So she made her into a nut job that used a god to make excuses for her actions. And nobody cared what she had to say anymore.
@@Kjf365 i forgot about the blood thing wushja
Yes, but Atua is also a Polynesian god.
I would like to see kazuichi and Sonia as the mastermind because kazuichi has the mechanic skills to create the neo world program and Sonia would have the money to get the materials to create the neo world program
But making the neo world program is more about programming rather than stuff like machines. Yeah sure maybe the machines to have the neo world program function but I don’t think he could make the program itself
This reminded me of the rumor that kazuichi made/built the executions for the first game
@@Mothblossom Isnt that canon???
@@silas901 yeah also the 3 creators of the neo world program are known Chihrio Fujisaki, Miaya Gekkohohara, and I forget the boys name but he dated Ryoko
@@zookeeps1340 I’m not sure honestly tbh I kinda do hope it true it sounds pretty awesome
Actually chiro as the mastermind could probably be the biggest twist.
Think about it a shy timid boy that pretend to be a girl was in fact the mastermind not only that but he is the ultimate programer meaning hw could hack into any machine tv station military base etc. Also he could very well make the neo world program virus also he could make chiaki the mastermind in the second game cause he could have infected chiaki with the virus. Not only that but chiro is smart sure he seems timid but it doesn't change the fact that he is highly intelligent. Overall this qualities make chiro a very scary and possibly a more threat than junko but that's my opinion
i'm starting to think I should've included him on this list
no one seems to realize how dangerous chihiro is lol
he's just shy
but what's if that's an act
*DUN DUN DUUUUN*
@@souljynx Chihiro is so precious that I would forgive him
@@gretavonpancake but that could be a lie
I saw fanart of Chiro behing the master mind and u was like: y e a s
Master mind Ryoma anyone
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Ryoma was such wasted potential.
I really would have liked to see one of the killers from the third game being the mastermind since the first game it was someone who was killed, in two it was someone who had nothing to do with the killing game, and the third it would be a killer, I really thought that Kaede was the mastermind for the longest time based on this theory and I would have liked to see it.
Well in a way that happened Kaede did not kill Rantaro Tsumugi did
I think when I posted this I meant someone who was deemed the blackened and than they show up later in the game as a mastermind, but that’s a good point!
Imagine Sayaka as the mastermind
Sakura can still be a traitor
sounds amazing
She’s technically already is a mastermind (tsumugi shared the same vc)
@@winkledrop7001 not in the original version though
@@AlicornLiaTv its like a final battle of leon vs sayaka
(y'know because leon and shuichi have the same vc)
@@winkledrop7001 Interesting probably unintentional parallel since they don't share VAs in the original Japanese, Sayaka usually has blue eyes that go gray when she's freaking out/despairing/whatever. Tsumugi normally has grayish eyes that go bright blue when she slips especially far into Mastermind mode
"Think of the first person who had potential to be the Mastermind."
Me: Shuichi.
"Sonia."
Oh-
But he had potential too
Shuichi would’ve been kinda of a disappointing twist for me but idk
Shuichi boring af Miu would be better
I thought Kokichi
I was thinking Kaede/Rantaro
Tsumugi’s god or atua is Izuru Kamakura, since Angie said that you can imagine your god however you want. So I’d believe that Atua would be the mastermind.
@@yuriasss yeah also whenever it s mentioned people are like "Celestia" and I'm like they constantly use He/Him for Atua, or at least Tsumugi does and Angie never corrects her, and last time I checked Celestia dosent use He/Him pronouns
@@zookeeps1340 Well Angie says that her God (Atua is an actual polynesian God so I'll just use a nameless one instead, just like in the japanese version) shows differently to every other person. But Angie definitely uses he/him pronouns for her God, despite telling Gonta that her God is like a gentle grandmother to him.
@@carat_light atua is not a polynesian God, it's the polynesian word for Gods, because polynesians are polytheists
Wait izuru have black hair? That’s cap
@@zookeeps1340 I was so dumb that I forgot Izuru existed when she said that, so I automatically thought of Kiyotaka 😂😂
I don't know why but Makoto as the mastermind would seem amazing.
a heartbreaking twist it would make
Ikr
Yuh
ikr x2
I'd agree. The idea of the player character turning out to be the mastermind would be an interesting twist. It may be difficult to pull off well just due to all the scenes he's in. If the twist comes out of nowhere with no hints, people would be upset, but dropping too many hints would take away the impact of the revelation.
6:12
Certain someone in the distance: *Its a lie :D*
Gee, I wonder who...
xD
612 hahahahah hOmEsTucK
@@helpilostmybeanie1868 HOMESTUCK😃❤️
Gosh I wonder whom.
I think Nagito could have been a good mastermind. He'd cause more despair amongst the others to watch hope shine, or something like that. His motive would basically just be hope lmao. But yeah, I think seeing him in a mastermind form could have been pretty cool as well. Everything could have been good about it, except for the fact that you are slightly led to believe he may be the traitor because of how he acted. The other characters all had that suspicion, possibly trying to make the player believe that as well. So if it did turn out that way, I can see why it might be a bit weak since he was a suspect for a while. But yeah other than that, Nagito as a mastermind is a pleasing thought to me.
actually. 📢🗣periodt📢🗣
The thing about nagito mastermind is that he already had such an important role in the game and giving him another huge label would upset ppl
@@izaspraykit Ah, yeah, you're right about that one.
I'd be so cool as the mastermind
Too convenient if he’s already the most hated character by all his classmates
My potential masterminds where
Miu: sense she's an inventor I thought she was a crazy towa group member pretending to be a hopes peak student her accomplice would be kiibo sense he's a robot like monokuma and they did feel close during the game
Gonta: I thought gonta was pretending to be dumb for a long time sense he had a few times where he sounded too smart his accomplice would be kokichi sense they hung out a lot and wouldn't it be crazy if gonta was the real ultimate leader and kokichi was just lying like he did the whole game
Sonia: she's a princess she has the power plus she was kind of boring but always suspicious so being the mastermind or would have been cool her accomplice would be kazuichi maybe he's like a henchmen who built the robots so his random attachment to her makes more sense
Chihiro: well she is the ultimate programmer so making robots makes sense if you think about it also her kind of soft and shy personality could have easily been faked i dont know who would be her accomplice tho (tell me if you have any ideas)
chihiro=he
@@shaleqsandre9733 omg I really but she/her like a dumb ass lmao
Gonta is not stupid, he's smart but guillible
Kokichi,might be the ultimate lair
@@ghostlyflamingo07 I would love it if Kokichi was the ultimate gambler. I mean, Shuichi had the same ultimate as a previous player despite them not being connected, so ig it can work. It just doesn't make sense to me how he's an ultimate leader when leaders aren't supposed to lie and stuff (unless he became a leader through manipulating everyone etc).
Also he gives off major manipulative thief vibes, which fits a gambler.
I actually made a few rewrites with a mastermind Kirumi, Gonta, and Rantaro!-
Rantaro's motive was revenge for being in a KG and wanted to put others through the same pain and despair as he was in.
Gonta's motive- iscurrentlyaworkinprogess
And Kirumi's motive was she was tired of being bossed around and realized how much power and control she has and could gain- she wanted to become a dictator of the sorts. So in order to put that in motion she made and recorded the KG to threaten the people: "This is what I can do, don't go against me".
when gonta motive
"a female Ace Attorney villain that makes a crazy face when she is caught" isn't that all of them
I thought the same too. Thinking I would find the answer, I scrolled down the comment section, only to find this.
@@arandomchinese482 me too for phoenix sake
Tbh it makes sense (chronologically ish) if Leon was the mastermind
oooh ooh ooh this is interesting
Based
Or Nekomauru if you wanna do Danganronpa GD.
And for v3, Korekiyo?
that Kirumi explanation actually makes a ton of sense with her job as prime minister and the ch6 plot twist
somehow, i went into 2 thinking hiyoko would be a blackened or the mastermind
I thought Mondo was the mastermind. Here's my theory
Chihiro could of been a witness of him planning executions or whatever and killed him and then he faked his death because how could someone turn into butter. And maybe him being friends with Ishimaru is an act.
Yo this theory of mondo as a mastermind is dope!
so chihiro death be like
"oh boy gotta do this execution thingy"
"hey mondo whatcha doin"
"nothing" *commits kiLL*
"owo now I need to think of something edgy to fake this"
Actually, the butter thing is realistically possible because of how fast he was going.
@@kabbagecr probably because his execution was going fast as hell
okay hear me out what if mondo really died in the execution but he come back as kiyondo, basically mondo's spirit is possesing taka and turned him into kiyondo. so he's using taka as his vessel or something like that and alter ego is his right hand man because alter ego is the reason taka turned into kiyondo
What if they made a danganronpa game that you could get a different mastermind every time with different murders and story it would be fun (sorry if i wrote something wrong english is not my first language)
Broooo that would be so interesting I wish that was a thing
So a choose your own adventure DR game? Like depending on who you spend time with effects the game.
@@Galaxykuma yes
That's basically the beta version of Danganronpa, Distrust. It was a really cool concept but this outcome was nice too
@@carat_light Ah. It's been a while sense I've heard about that, but yeah. If done right I'd like to see it.
I see Toko as a good mastermind. Because of her spilt personality, she wouldn’t really know what the other is up to, even if they share emotions. Kyoko would also be a good one, as she was the “point women” and would really destroy Makoto’s trust. The Ultimate Imposter was kind of an obvious one.
Maybe a new Character like Toko?
genocide would make for such a great mastermind, and i can kind of see togami accepting a role as traitor to stop her from bothering him too much.
In the first game, if it wasn't for spoilers and people cosplaying Junko everywhere, I would've thought Sayaka was going to be the mastermind.
Think about it, the person closest to you in the game, who is in fact loved by almost everyone, being the mastermind would be very despair inducing. With her being the first one to start with the killing, and with Makoto gaining motivation and hope to fight for all of his friends deaths (but mainly for her), all to be crushed at the end by her reveal. It'll also make Makoto's hope speech even more inspiring because knowing someone close to you is the mastermind and defeating them is way harder than defeating someone you don't have any emotional attachment to.
Another (popular) one would be Makoto. Now I know mastermind! Makoto is pretty popular, but this is my take on it.
We know that Makoto is a bit insecure about being average, so I imagine him starting the killing game would be due to his jealousy. Besides, in chapter 1 he had one of the strongest motives to kill. Stronger that Sayaka's I daresay. We know that most of the cast have had a hard life outside (ex:Toko, Taka, Mondo, etc...) but makoto had a fairly normal life, arguably the best life out of all of the cast. So isn't it suspicious that he didn't even think about killing someone? It's because he knows it's useless. His family is fine and he can go outside whenever he wants to. He'd make a pretty cool mastermind, although I think this twist would be a bit early for the first game.
well, not unless its revealed at like, chapter 5 going on six, or just at the end of chapter 6
I would really like to see Kaito as the mastermind in V3 tbh-
Like.. A person who belives in everyone and hates lies being a biggest fricking liar and mastermind? That would be really cool tbh
Same about Mahiru in DR2. I could imagine her wanting a "special" photos or some stuff, going insane, falling into despair and hoasting a killing game, just so she can get "pictures"
If Kaito was the mastermind, I would have cried. Seeing my favorite character in the whole game revealed to be the mastermind would have broken me, but it would be cool to see
I love Kaito, he’s literally my favorite character in the entire series, and that would’ve shattered me, but I’m not against it, that’d be pretty cool actually!
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If number five could cause Best Girl Angie to be around longer than Chapter 3 then I would be happy indeed.
honestly, i think it would be really cool if Sayaka ended up being the mastermind
if she lived, she’d be your assistant, staying with you and eventually the player would develop trust for her.
And i just think it would be so cool to see that the person you’ve been trusting and spending nearly every day with
was the one who had caused the killing game.
I want a protag to be the mastermind though. Because the protags are always calling each other friends and get over people's deaths in two or more days after bonding. It would be cool too if it were a surprise at the end and making it seem not obvious but giving hints at it. Like going in their rooms more often and separating from the group or staying ramdomly quiet at times.
Hey I'm working on something like that the mc who turns out to be the mastermind all of long.
@@CelestialVulpine Same
(The MC ends up being insane at the end)
Is Hajime/Izuru a joke to you?
Is it just me or does the thumbnail look saturated or something
you are correct
Mastermind Leon. He was the first character to get executed and has a lot of Easter eggs throughout the series.
I think it would be really interesting if he was revealed the be the mastermind.
Better yet, Leon and Sayaka as the masterminds. The first two to die would be a really surprising couple to be in charge of the killing game and their deaths starting the killing game would be very interesting considering you would find out they didn’t even die.
So glad to finally find a fellow Mastermind Leon enjoyer! I honestly think Mastermind Leon would probably be some of the most unexpected plot twists ever considering the fact that he died so early on and has a personality that you wouldn't really expect from someone so evil that they trap innocent highschoolers inside a killing game
I think Akane would've been the best mastermind.
She was actually originally gonna be the Mastermind and or antagonist until they scrapped the idea
@@teamili7957 I know. I just really would've preferred if they went through with it.
wasn't she just supposed to be hajime's rival at class trials? i don't remember the mastermind part
If akane the antagonist then nagito would be the mastermind
Teru Teru, the true mastermind
He would be a great mastermind tho if you really think about it
The Yasuhiro positivity is very much welcome. I love the guy and I'm glad that he isn't being absolutely shit on in this video like what I've seen in other videos.
One funny thing I would like to see would be if two people were the mastermind together like in v3 it would be Kaede and Shuichi or kaito and maki, and in 2 it could have been gundam and Sonia or fyuhiko and peko
Gross.
Shuichi x Kaito mastermind
Yes so if one died Monokuma would say the mastermind is dead, and everyone would be confused since someone else is still the mastermind too
tbh i kind of thought of this before, but miu and gonta.
when they get caught out, they release a bunch of robotic wasps and venomous centipedes and escape as the only human survivors, after wiping keebo's data including his memories.
theres something like that on this fan project called "i am the mastermind" each character gets a "mastermind interview" and kokichi and kaito's were paired together, you can look it up if you want
I see Mikan as great mastermind material, wanting to be just like Junko, powerful, feared, and even looked up to. Its canon that Mikan enjoys nursing other because of that feeling of power she gets, which I totally understand. She likes this rush of power because of her past. I feel like she'd be a reasonable mastermind because of wanting to be like the person she admires and wanting power over people.
I think Kyoko being the mastermind will be cool. Because her father was the headmaster and she really didn't like him much. So that would be cool if she was a mastermind.
It'd be a decent twist and really interesting
execution: sins of the daughter
Characters I think that were perfect as the MM
~Kyoko Kirigiri~
Because she was super sus in my eyes and what she tryed to do to Makoton in Ch.5 + she was suposed to be the Mastermind instead of Junko Enoshima
~My waifu Sayaka Maizono or best boy Chihiro Fujisaki~
They are both the cute, nice and innocent ones and it would be a cool Twist if they would be the Masterminds. Chihiro was the Ultimate Programme. +They both would have lived longer.
~Byakuya Togami~
He is rich and could organize a Killing Game
~Sonia Nevermind~
Because as the Ultimate Princess she would have the power to organize a Killing Game.
~Kaede Akamatsu or Shuichi Saihara~
If Kaede didn't died in Ch.1 it would be cool to see her reaktion if Shuichi was the Mastermind or Shuichi's reaktion if Kaede was the Mastermind and it would be a shocking twist to the player too.
~Kirumi Tojo~
If the DRV3 cast were real Ultimates and if their backstory was real it would be a cool twist if the Ultimate Maid was the Mastermind and the Primeminister of Japan.
~Miu Iruma~
She kinda looked like Junko and she was the Ultimate Inventor.
Sayaka, Chihiro and Tsumugi have the same VA.
So... it would be cool
@@ClownHearts that va just likes the *seemingly* innocent characters
@@souljynx *yes*
@@ClownHearts *s e e m i n g l y*
@@souljynx Chihiro is the only pure one tho.
Sayaka is ok, she just had paranoia
Tsumugi, she was chosen as mastermind-
My guy really offended a whole nation by saying atua is a fake god
1:17 gonta is looking at tsumugi angrily
He knew
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I thought rantaro was the mastermind before I realised it was tsumigi lol
I feel like Celeste would make a good mastermind, I mean her specialty is lying and being manipulative. She was basically the one who told everyone to go into lockdown at night, telling them that it’ll keep them safe and because she’s great at lying she could run circles around everyone.
I mean, during her trial she had executed her murder plan perfectly, manipulating Hifumi into doing the dirty work and offing him at the end, framing Yasuhiro as the culprit, I mean had it not been for the robot suit and Hifumi revealing her last name she could’ve undoubtedly gotten away scott free.
If mahiru was the mastermind, i wouldn't even be sad. Anything but AI Junko, and also, my waifu survives until the end of the game, so that's even better
Mahiru deserved better >:(
Who’s ur waifu?
@@animefi4612 mahiru koizumi, aka the most underrated female character in danganronpa to exist ever
@@squidgiemouse3678 Ah
@@squidgiemouse3678 Have you heard of Akane Owari?
@@patinhoquemoralogoali9280 yes, but mahiru is surperior for no reason at all other than i'm too lesbian for my own good
I agree Sonia was very suspicious in almost all of the trials for some reason. That is why I think it's funny that she isn't the mastermind or a blackened.
There were multiple times when I thought that the story turns out for Hajime to be the mastermind for 3 main reasons:
1. He didn't have an ultimate talent the entire time whilst the main protag was him in one person.
2. Both Naegi and Shuichi refers to each others role as behave like detectives but having many opportunities from multiple possible masterminds to kill them, they both got away with it, Hajime is having a hidden Remnants of Despair self who is obviously non-other than Izuru Kamukura. The true identity of the same person as the mastermind. In this matter Nagito taking the Hope role like how Naegi, Hajime and Keebo took it normally, faking that he believes in hope whilst he pretend that, but he is so damn lucky even without his knowledge another hope rises which actually help him and the rest of the students out of the killing game, furthermore preventing Chiaki from being murdered. If Nagito and Hajime both switching sides like that, the tables could turn not 180, not 360 but 720 degrees this way without the plot being harmed.
3. Junko already died and so the writer could've lead Junko to be an AI only who has nothing to do with anything happen with the school regulations, nor with Monokuma, but Hajime actually continuously cooperate with Usami who inderectly made Hajime make mistakes. Usami was the one taken down the giant version of Junko Enoshima, but for Usami, who hates violations would make sense for not killing Junko's AI. As Usami used her power to kill Junko's AI then she must be no different than Monokuma, which refers everything back to Hajime and his unknown ultimate talent.
These were real potentials for us to be playable characters and being the mastermind simultaneously. Chunsoft didn't think the plot that way. SDR2 could've been even better this way.
hear me out: MASTERMIND CHIAKI
Imagine the reactions of CZcamsrs.
Their waifu was a horrible person
I'd love to see someone make a story about this.
would it be cool if shuichi or kaede will be the mastermind in v3, instead of killing kaede she stays alive and discover the indenty of who the mastermind is and it's of course her closest friend shuichi having red eyes.
Komaru is a possibility. And it could make for a very emotional sense especially for Makoto and it could be the one time where we don’t see his happy go lucky attitude and instead we see him with pure ( if you can even call it that) Despair.
I think Chiaki could have made an amazing mastermind.
I've always has this idea where a Mary Sue is stereotypical waifubait, but then it turns out to all be a ploy. They know they're perfect and have no flaws, and they use this to their advantage to gain everyone's trust before revealing themselves as evil. Chiaki is a PERFECT candidate for this.
YES, Evil!Chiaki gives me life
*slams fists through table* Where is our Mastermind!Chiaki fanfic? We need this.
*_Rantaro's the best boi, don't @ me._*
Rantaro is pretty good boi, I wish he lived a bit longer in the main game tho since he had so much talk about ending the killing game than he would end up failing and living longer with that regret.
Yeah. I wish he lived more. :(
@@puppetmaster6412 It was said that after the creator of Danganronpa found Rantaro's voice actor he wanted to make Rantaro live longer but it was too late. (*´ω｀*)
When I first played sdr2, I was SO sure that """byakuya""" was either the mastermind, or the traitor, since the start, I think they had SO MUCH potential to be the mastermind, imagine if they could pretend to be someone PERFECTLY, like, you barely could tell the difference, and imagine if they took someones place after they """""died""""", that would have been SO COOL
Atua as angie's brother would be fun to see.
I actually tought Yasuhiro would turn out to be the mastermind when I first played DR1
And I tought Hyioko would have turned out to be some kind of Junko's sucessor once the picture of her was revealed, plus her death wasnt very well explained in the game.
I want Atua as a mastermind.
You suspected Sonia so much because of how boring and bland and inconsequential she is.
Also she should have been either the killer in chapter 3 since she told Hiyoko about the Mirror. Or the one who caught the Despair disease instead of Ibuki.
Her symptom could have been having a crush on Kazuichi. And they could have made this whole trope where Kazuichi started to be turned off by her liking him lol. Then in the trial we could have gotten him going bat shit insane, screaming and cursing at Mikan for killing his crush. And we could have had Ibuki going insane in the fun house and seeing her break in the last trial....
But no... they had to keep Sonia in cuz.... literally no reason.
If she had been the mastermind then that would have given her something to work with lmao
Personally I believe Sonia shouldn’t have died. If you think about it if she died that’d be a ANOTHER girl who died for a boy to develop there was Sayaka, Peko and Kaede do we really need another? Also check out her free time events and she’s a big help in the trials.
@@animefi4612 killing off a lame, boring, girl to develop a guy, or killing off a fun, interesting, somewhat wise, emotional and caring girl for literally no reason cuz of a "disease" that was brought up out of the devs' butt holes for the sole purpose of having an ez cut in the numbers. Which death's more "disrespectful" lol.
Imagine if Rantaro really didn’t die and that was just a dummy
I got a bit disappointed when in V2 Junko ended up coming back as the mastermind(I mean it was technically Izuru but he wasn't there most of the time) because I thought it would be fun trying to guess the mastermind again. I also think in V3 the fact that it was Tsumugi wanting to be like Junko made the mastermind reveals for V2 and V3 a bit disappointing and I would have much preferred the people listed in the video.
6 months late.
But what do you mean Izuru wasn't there? You were playing as him the whole time.
I think Chihiro would be a very interesting and unexpected character noone anyone could've thought Chihiro would be the Mastermind.
In my opinion, Shuichi being the mastermind is gonna be cool. Like in the first chapter, we don't play as Shuichi when he left to go check the people who went to the AV room, I would like to see him kill Rantaro and get away with it just because Kaede protected him, so Kaede is sacrificed just because she decided to protect Shuichi who happens to be the mastermind
"Mahiro should be the mastermind, it was revealed to me in a dream"
Can't argue with that logic
Actually here's a plot idea in the final trial of dr2 if sonia was the mastermind, basically in the final trial sonia reveals that she was the mastermind the whole time and she changes her form and reveals that she was the princess of despair, however once she gets exposed she also reveals her name isn't sonia nevermind, it's sonia mastermind
I laughed
i was SO convinced that Soda was the mastermind😭
I THOUGHT MAHIRU WAS THE MASTERMIND BC THAT I THOUGHT SHE WAS TRYING REALLY HARD TO BE NICE TO NOT LOOK LIKE A MASTERMIND
Mastermind kaito ? Then Kokichi's death will be completely meaningless
Remember that opening part in V3 with Kaede and it says “Ultimate Revival” the entire time I thought Kaede was going to be revived and be the mastermind
And If Autua was the mastermind, angie shoulda been a survivor and she would hate autua for being the mastermind.
Now I want Kaito as a mastermind, or something similar to your explanation of how it would impact the cast
They were going to have Sonia be the mastermind, but then they were all like Nevermind.
i think hagakure would be a good mastermind im so glad you put him on the list. i thought he could be faking his comic-relief dumb personality
There's also the fact that he's odd man out as far as the ages of everyone in the class goes - he's an adult from the beginning even with his memories stripped. That discrepancy makes suspecting him all the more reasonable. It makes sense to assume that if the mastermind were one of the classmates, it would be the one that doesn't belong in their cohort.
I would also like chihiro as a mastermind would be cool- I mean they always said that the danganronpa world was fictional and chihiro as an ultimate programmer would make it easier to make a fictional world. And also it would be so creepy with her saying mastermindly lines with his childish voice lol
Actually, Yasuhiro had a huge role in the final killing game which is in the Future Arc of the anime, where he got everyone out safely and such stuff like that.
A CZcamsr named Bijuu Mike actually theorized Atua was the mastermind early on in his playthrough
When you see Kokichi Behind Kirumi doing his scary face,
I’m outta here
I feel like my prime suspect as the mastermind in Danganronpa 2 was Mikan. I thought she was gonna be the mastermind because of one reason. Hiyoko was _really_ mean to Mikan. Well, she was mean to everyone, but Mikan in specific. I thought there were gonna be there was gonna be six people who survived again, and I thought Mikan and Hiyoko were gonna be one of the last survivors and Mikan would've revealed her secret. I wanted to see the look on Hiyoko's face when Mikan revealed that she was the mastermind. I also wanted Mikan's "beloved" Junko to be there too. When it was Junko again, it was still cool though. But I do think Mikan had very good potential.
When I first played sdr2 I thought Kazuichi was the mastermind and built could've built monokuma. That or he would be a good traitor with his trust issues and stuff.
I personally feel like Chiaki would've been the perfect person to be mastermind because of her role in the game and anime. She was an ai in the game meaning it would have been totally impossible for her code to be changed and make her evil, and it would just be a big plot twist to find out this kind loveable gamer girl wasnt just an ai but an evil ai who was making them go through all this, and it was also would contrast nicely with how in the anime Chiaki brought everyone together and if in the game she was the one tearing them apart.
What if Junko and Naegi were the masterminds and if all of this was just a game, a game between hope and despair, a game between Junko and Naegi who Monokuma is the referee. A game in the fictionnal world "Danganronpa" like it was told in V3. They played 53 killing games until the pawns themselves had enough. + What if in the 52 killing games before the last one both Naegi and Junko had a equal score and in the end nobody win (but technically Naegi win even if in the end Shuichi and the others reject hope an despair, they still optimistic). I am really going to far on this one X)...
The first time I played v3 something seemed weird about atua and I tough atua was a real person and is the mastermind
Celeste...?
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@@kiyotakaishimarushslhallmo6503 hi Taka..
@@makoto6772, I’m sorry..
@@kiyotakaishimarushslhallmo6503 why would you be sorry?
Ibuki,Rantaro and Celestia would be good masterminds.
Fun Fact; Atua is actually a god(and or spirit) in the real world. I believe it’s a Polynesian thing.
Atua is a word used to refer to collective gods or spirits of Hawaii and Polynesia
Imagine if you voted Keebo in chpt. 6 and got an alternate ending where Shuichi is the mastermind with Tsumugi just mortified by such a sudden change in the script
I always suspected something was off with Sonia, solely because of the Novoselic Kingdom itself. I kept waiting for someone to truly start questioning all this lore she was throwing out about a kingdom they'd never heard of and that couldn't be found on any maps. Her logic for its existence and cartographical exclusions always seemed flimsy at best (although I think that was just meant to be a meta joke) and I just assumed she was either lying about being the Ultimate Princess, lying about which kingdom she ruled, or lying about not being the mastermind.
I didn’t necessarily think she was the mastermind, but I had searched up who would kill Nagito in Danganronpa 2 before I went into the chapter.
*Spoilers, I guess:*
When I saw Komaeda’s body with the knowledge of Chiaki being the culprit, I thought that she might’ve had a dark, twisted, evil side of her. Komaeda’s corpse was a shock to me, and it immediately made me think that Chiaki was actually very cruel and had been bottling up her emotions throughout the game. She seemed emotionless throughout her free-time events (yes, of course I went through her events first), so I didn’t think it was off the table. Personally, I think it might’ve been cooler if Nagito had a sad death; it would’ve explained to me why the fan base has such a fascination with him. Alas, Komaeda was just a creepy, crazy, and weirdly sad boy and Chiaki was not the twist villain that I might’ve wanted.
Chiaki being the mastermind would've made so much sense considering the fact that she's the Ultimate Gamer and Danganronpa 2 is essentially a game (I mean it's technically a simulation but close enough). I could see her being twisted and evil enough to bring real people into a real killing game just because she got bored of video games and want to try playing with real people. And the fact that she was essentially a symbol of hope in canon would've worked so well with this version too-maybe she never got killed by Junko and is disappointed at the fact that her classmates are Remnants of Despair, so she willingly joined the Neo World Program to turn it into a killing game as a punishment for her classmates, under the guise of her "helping her friends out"? Maybe they could make it so that Chiaki looks like she's helping her classmates, but in reality she's guiding them towards despair with toxic positivity? And her execution would've been a perfect execution for a video game mastermind
4:30 now that i think about it, since the anime told that junko actual talent is predicting the future, but it was a secret, maybe yasuhiro is actually talentless and was just accepted by the principal in the school to cover up junko
there was a part in DR2 where someone said that the killing game would have to be organized by a very powerful organization, like Sonia's Novoselic kingdom or Fuyuhiko's Kuzuryu clan. i was convinced that Sonia and Fuyuhiko were co-masterminds for basically the whole game.
I headcannon that Chihiro could’ve been the mastermind, as he could have displayed things on all of the screens and only a person who is really experienced in tech could control Monokuma.
I thought it could be Byakya because hear me out he was tired of being able to buy his way out of everything but in a killing game he can’t buy his way out of that he also said something along the lines he enjoyed the game but that is not my main reason 😅
this may sound odd but i actually think makoto would make the perfect mastermind. he’s always considered as average and basic and boring, which draws almost no attention to him as everybody else is more notable, making him the least suspicious of being the mastermind. he even says to kyoko in chapter 6 of thh that someone as ordinary and basic as him can never be the mastermind.
his reason for being the mastermind also fits well: because he’s so average he gets bored of how bland his life is, but he can’t do anything because it’s just who he is. but after finding out that despair can cure his boring, basic life, he wants to spread it so other normal people like him would no longer be bored of themselves. imagine that plot twist
just to add on to a hypothetical kaito mastermind idea. i remember the game talking about some gofer disease or something like that. kaito also became super sick with no explanation as to why. if he had this disease, that would've connected him to the world before the killing game. plus by the end, the survivors "win" by rejecting both hope and despair, thus ending the cycle that keeps danganronpa going. kaito could've enabled this cycle and the killing game itself by practically forcing everyone to chase after hope despite the despair everyone felt after each trial. that could be an interesting angle a mastermind would take to cause as much despair as possible
My first thought to alternate mastermind is Miu, she could of built all of the technology in the dome including K1-B0, she could have easily tampered the cameras in the beginning to leave her out of shot, she gets bored by normal stuff easily, and her mood swings are almost as drastic as Junko’s
In my opinion, mastermind Hiyoko would have been great. Hiyoko would still die with an unknown murder weapon, but that's only because she didn't actually die. Mikan inflicted with the remembering disease could help Hiyoko fake her death, and while everyone thinks that she's dead, Hiyoko could resume being a mastermind from behind the curtains. Her death looking forced in would fit perfectly with her being the actual mastermind.
I was convinced that Chihiro was the Mastermind until I started getting Mukuro clues, and even for a bit after that.
Think about it; Everyone talked about how there has to be someone controlling Monokuma because he held conversations too complex for normal AI, but we _had_ an AI that held complex conversations - Alter Ego!
When my friend introduced me to Danganronpa I wondered if the game was randomized each time you play. It wasn't, but that would've been interesting if each time you played there's different cases & masterminds each time
*2:13*
"Kirumi could have been the mastermind."
Me surprisingly looking at Kokichi in the background