The Fastest Sonic EVER // 430+ WHP Drag Sonic Breakdown
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2021
- You asked for it! Ever since we started our drag Sonic project, people have been asking what's under the hood. Join Tyler and Al as they discuss every little detail that has gone into our LTZ Sonic Turbo. #GoFastNotBroke
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Full list of current mods:
-ZZP 4340 rods
-Diamond Forged Pistons - 73.5mm
-Ported Intake Manifold
-ZZP 1.4t LUV/LUJ head studs
-1.4 Sonic/Cruze 72# valve springs
-ZZP 1.4t LUV/LUJ performance cams - stage 1
-ZZP LUV/LUJ titanium retainers - 1.4
-ZZP tubular control arms
-BC Racing coilovers
-ZZP 1.4t high voltage coil pack
-ZZP 1.4 turbo tune
-E85 flex-fuel conversion
-N2MB Wot Box
-ZZP Sonic billet engine mount
-AEM wideband UEGO x-series AFR sensor controller gauge w/obdii
-NGK v power spark plugs
-Shifter bushings for sonic
-Sonic cable clamp
-Team m factory limited slip
-Lower transmission mount
-Upper transmission mount
-Clutch Masters aluminum flywheel for cruze/sonic
-Clutch Masters clutch kit for cruze/sonic - fx500 (stage 5)
-Tial wastegate
-Sonic larger throttle body kit
-Turbo is a xona rotor 5751s
-Custom tubular turbo manifold
-Cadillac ATS intercooler core
-Polaris Slingshot radiator
When will the control arms be back in stock?
Wish y'all would make more products for the Gen2 Cruze. .
Ive been trying to find someone that makes a turbo manifold
Quick question, what fuel pump are you guys running?
Stock trans gear set tho? Wow
Does anybody else feel like Chevy missed out on the opportunity to create a performance focused Sonic and name it the Super Sonic?
Sonic the hedgehog
They should hire you. lol
@@beastumfan And a forced induction/high output Ranger should only ever be called a Power Ranger.
Chevy should go more tuner like the jdm cars
It could seriously compete with the other tuner cars, especially with the way they're going right now. Unfortunate that Chevy killed the poor sonic
I grew up a GM and Honda guy, i have always loved both. My sonic is the ONLY car GM has ever made that reminds me of old school Honda hatchies. Such an underrated little car, you can have such a fun daily driver that's different than what everyone else is driving and save the miles off your Camaro or vette. Win, win.
"everything on this is reversible"
Hole in the hood for exhaust 🤣
This thing is wild though, well done
My factory 1.4 popped yesterday. I have been waiting for it to die to get with y’all and build a 350hp daily. Talk to you tomorrow.
You end up doing this? How is it for a daily?
Update?
I'm gonna assume he didn't talk to them tomorrow
I found zzp maybe a year ago or so and couldn't believe how much support there is for ecotec from these guys 💯💯
I just keep falling more in love with this company.
I love how a few from the fb groups want to make excuses, spread false rumors, or try to doubt or speak bad on you guys when you’ve put in the r&d and tons of time and realistically not a lot of money to make this possible. There’s a reason I’ve stayed with you guys for years from a Grand Prix to now my sonic that’s slowly coming together. The passion and quality shows some just don’t open their eyes or ride the coat tail of a few others. Keep it up Al and Tyler and the whole team🤘🏼
🤘🤘🤘
Thank your for this content and the work you do to bring it to us. Watched dude in blue and followed to your page. Was looking for a new fwd project, and I think I found it😊
A true badass Sonic
I would love to build my sonic to this point. I’ve got my motorcycle that I’m currently building and then the sonic is next. My goal is to bring a sonic to a drag and drive event(Rocky Mountain Race Week) and compete with the sonic. I ran my motorcycle in 2.0 this year. My goal is to take the sonic in 2023 to race week and be competitive
I am very excited to see the difference in mods from straight power drag style, to road course style
Love this build! Great breakdown video gang.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I bought my sonic a little over 2 years ago and cracked the head doing 103. Bought a new head. Found out it has a salvage title so it ain't really worth anything. But, I came across an article about zzperformance experimenting with a sonic getting it up to 400 horse. So I like the videos you all put out on the sonic.
Can you ask make an all wheel drive kit for the Chevy Cruze
Thanks for doing the breakdown! It was my goal with mine to try to keep up with you guys. Now I know that it’s not all zzp parts to get you to where your at. I feel like this car is kinda limited on sourcing products that would work with it not a whole lot of companies support the sonic platform. My hat is off to you guys for being the pioneers in sonic performance and making a dream a reality.
Just got a 2019. Didnt think you could take it NEARLY that far with mods. Excited asf to start my build when i come back from Air Force BMT. But before i go i atleast want to delete my mufflers for some weight reduction. Its really a crazy sleeper no one goes for them.
I recently came across your page after I bought my 2016 sonic RS. Sucks that here in South Africa, aftermarket parts are very very limited. I can't even find a BOV here or CA intake that doesnt cost an arm and a leg
Absolutely amazing work @ZZPerformance
I own a 2014 Sonic hatch (1.8l 5 spd manual) and it's an absolute blast here in western Montana. I commute an incredible distance (conservativly over 500 miles a week) and have grown fond of these little machines. that the stock suspension geometry, and weight distribution of these machines feels incredibly balanced and well composed in the canyons. Like under-ratedly so. Nonetheless I'm definitely excited and interested in possibly swapping a 1.4T into it with the 6speed or something soon... I'm incredibly inspired by the work put into this awesome build. HELL YEAH
I love having my Sonic for the fun curvy highways we have in western Montana. I have a 1.4 6 speed
why not turbo the 1.8 and see what happens?
@@andybobandy675 I spoke with a friend of mine who happens to be a bit more informed than myself, and he seemed to think It may be best to swap engines. 🤷♂️
@@christopherballenger-brook4027 as said in one of zzp's livestreams they say for the 1.8 to look in europe for parts they are under the similar banner as in same bore and stroke as the Z18XER (this is the well known engine code for modifying these 1.8's especially in britain) the aveos (sonics) in america have the LUW and LWE named U18XFR and P18XER respectivly. Here in australia we got the barinas (sonics) with a 1.6 known as the f16d4 these engines are basically the a16let engine from the from the cruze sri v from memory that motor is a revision of the z16let the differences is basically emissions based one is euro 4 and the other is euro 5 seeing as the 1.6 is easy to get forged parts for it is tempting the clutches are probabbly the same as well seeing as the m32 is still used. for 1.8 content i would go and look at
Matthew Chevalier as he is building a cruze 1.8 with a turbo.
EDIT
here is a turbo z18xer if you want to have a look czcams.com/video/381GHZYrd-M/video.html&ab_channel=NathanDrury
Would definitely recommend you guys make a wheel bearing kit for the sonic that changes the bolt pattern to 5x114.3 so we don't have to get the hubs redrilled
great video report you guys go for it 👌👍👍👍
Love zzp and the support they give the community! Annoys me that fitment industries kinda hates on zzp. Like cobalts and pontiacs and Cadillacs and camero’s are lame and it’s all about the jdm with them. They mocked the fat one with the beard about having a cobalt and the zzp intercooler showing. Zzp is my supplier for 99% of my ats parts! Spl will be getting money from me for lower front control arms.
awesome video thanks for posting race what you design and sell the proof is in your products 👍 only you left out one of the most sought after mods on the forums the solinoid bypass mod that's good for 20 hp😁
Loved this!! Thanks for the update on it, always love hearing how the drag sonic is doing. Btw, what ever happened w the awd swap blue sonic?
I’d love an update on the awd sonic too
Blue Sonic is still kicking, it's testing our new production turbo currently and 3" exhaust. Was at the track Friday, no AWD yet, we'll probably pick that project back up this winter.
@@gbrunner24 thanks for the update!!
@@gbrunner24 when will the 3inch exhaust be coming out?
@@wildchild7122 Hopefully before the end of the year, but that's a real rough ETA. We have the final production version on our blue auto Sonic currently, jigs are made, just need to fit it into the production schedule.
I’ve been driving Camaros all my life, and now we 2018 RS cruise 1.4 . Hatchback to be honest the front end looks better than the focus and any other car out there. Thanks for the information. Looking forward to building this car!!! 🫡
Been waiting for that V4 news
That is what I'm working for, with my 2018 sonic hatchback 1.8l automatic sense, i don't know the standard,. road race version can't find a manifold
I think I speak for all 1.8 sonic owners we need a turbo kit for our cars
Yes we do I been looking g can't find it I love my 1.8 once it hits 60 it goes head to head with trucks and v6 chargers 😂
Just ls saw it lol
Love the work up. Currently building a Sonic sedan for road racing / autocrossing. Been trying to get the chrome molly A arms for a year. Can never find them in the store, have used the alerts, email and text and called. Sure want to buy, but never there. I am following the build as I am in many ways trying to replicate. Thanks for the you tube update and sorry for the control arm rant.
We are hoping to have them in stock before the end of the year. Fab team is getting caught up for Black Friday and can hopefully get some done. We've been so backed up on work orders this year they haven't had time to work on products like the control arms.
@@gbrunner24 trow me a bone 🦴 free mood 🙌👌1.8 sonic
Ngl, it's kinda tempting to put some of these 1.4l parts into my buick encore
"We haven't cut any of the body out." 👀's at hood..
now build a 1.8 turbo kit lol jk i'll build my own i know not enough will buy it to make worth while good work gents
The question is can something like this be done with a trax? I have a 2017 with the 1.4L and auto trans. I’m about 30 minutes from you guys
Been looking at these cars for a while. Has me thinking of trading my 2004 Mach 1 mustang in for one. Won’t be as crazy as what you guys did but one of these with around 200 whp would be an amazingly fun car and still drivable. Never knew that this was possible
Exactly. I just picked up a 2019 by surprise drove it and it just switches through lanes on people haha. Stupid fun stock so imagine 200-300 hp.
Ill buy the mach 1 lol
Ever thought about testing another motor and finding the limits of the stock forged internals according to some forum posts there are stock internal sonics running 300whp or around there
My girlfriend has the '13 Sonic LTZ with the 1.4, so far its got exhaust and intake, tune soon. But once it's gets in an accident or motor blows, gonna rebuild it and make it a kart
When are you going to sell performance mods for the 1.8 ecotec it doesn't get enough love in the car modding scene
Wander if you make wide body for Chevy Sonic and guys your doing a great job
any idea guys when you will get the upper transmission mount for the 1.4 turbo sonic 6speed ??
So for us customers, we get a new dp, turbo, and exhaust? This is making my planning much more exciting. Once the escape is done this will be my full time race car for street racing
Hi I have a 2013 Cruze and I have a lot of parts from ZZP, does anybody know who makes exhaust Manifold for 1.4 turbo. I have a new turbo but need an exhaust manifold for it. great job guys keep it up.
When is the new turbo coming out? And the new catch can?
I have a 2012 chevy sonic ltz 1.8 liter and I dont even know where to begin to build up the car preformence wise
You should make parts for the trax
when will the control arms be back in stock?
Looking to build my 2019 sedan automatic let's see what we can do ... And it will be a daily driver so I want to make it fast wknd n drive to doctor office....
27:23 I did talk to tyler and he did tell me things I did and didn’t need
Yall make lowering kits and that's cool but what's the chances of making lifting kits for rally stuff and winters in alaska??? 🤔
Changing to adjustable LCAs can absolutely screw you at an SCCA autocross event, depending on the class you are trying to be competitive in. But if you're an autocrosser you already know that :)
Any pricing sneak peaks on those coil overs? 🙏😌
I appreciate all the info you guys share.
Should be in line with our w-body coilover pricing that we have already released!
Can I get this full build for a gen2 Cruze hatchback
former sonic owner now fiesta owner i miss the sonic
I love my LNF but a sonic fast daily build would be awesome! Any ideas? How's the auto? I want my daily to ban an auto now. I can't believe I'm say this, I guess I'm getting old! LoL
The auto isn't awful, however they make about 40-50whp less than the manuals on a comparable setup. We're drag racing one of the shop autos currently with our new production turbo, going well so far.
I have a 2014 hatch sonic auto, I would like to build a mean sleeper but don't know if it's possible with auto trans. if not where can I get a manual trans to swap? I installed the pcv upgrade with the valve cover and intake this weekend plus the rear sway bar two weeks before that and love the changes. I'm zzp for life. Bone marrow is next after this car is done. My project is called sonic t, HH my son loves the movie so he is helping me with it,
Check out our current Cruze auto build series! The auto, while not as much fun as the manual, is still very mod-able; I wouldn't let that stop you. Manual trans swap is possible, but you'll need to raid a junkyard car or buy a parts car to complete it, it's quite a thorough process.
The hood stack isn’t reversible. Unless you just want a huge hole for heat extraction 😂 but if you had a spare hood theoretically you could reverse it.
Amazing build! But what's going on with the blue sonic?
Was just out at the track on Friday. No AWD swap yet, we'll probably pick that back up this winter.
do this work on 2018 trax
Hi, 80 psi wasn't enough fuel pressure? If you reprogram the fuel module you could get 80 psi out of the system.
For me the seat would be a tight fit at 6' 4" 283 pounds.
But if you fail a bearing in the engine you could possibly trash the turbo sadly.
Does this sonic have the close ratio mz trans ?
Excellent ride team keep it up !
Be safe.
It currently has an MZO transmission in it with the RS final drive. Perfect setup for the 1/4.
The FSCM could not supply enough current to run the pump(s) needed to supply 80psi at this power level (high fuel volume).
I wonder based on your testing does lots of nitrous help the 1.4 or is boost the only way?
Nitrous is a fantastic power adder for nearly any engine, however, you have to have the right controllers and safe guards in place to keep it safe and happy.
Just going to KSwap mine and be done with all the hassle.
This thing is ridiculous in the best way 😂
About what horsepower/ torque did the stock transmission start having issues? I have a 14 sonic rs and would like to do as many upgrades as possible without breaking the trans
The transmission failures were more of my fault than the actual power. Worn synchros and teeth on gears gave us some issues, but we haven't broken anything from pure power. Check out our engine breakdown video that we did. We're making nearly 600whp now and our last failure was the aftermarket LSD and aftermarket flywheel.
czcams.com/video/VDxIB0Pj2bQ/video.html&ab_channel=ZZPerformance
I'd like to get the list setup for this sonic I got a 2014 1.4 and am looking for massive gains 💪
We just added a pinned comment with the full list of mods!
Flares should work on the rear tires too and not lose the stability a wider stance gives at high speed.
Need to do a 1.8 mod sonic...
Has anyone tried to rally 1.4 at about 300 hp. Or a bit less? I’d like to try
Is that trans the F40?
"We haven't cut any of the body out" ... while pointing towards the hood of the car with a part cut out of it
I have a 2013 sonic and my speedometer sometimes throughout driving decides to turn off and on and then malfunction the speed for a couple minutes. Then starts working again. It effects my radio also. Any ideas on what it could be ?
Message us at customerservice@zzperformance.com with your issues and we can help you out.
Sounds like a ground issue to me, check over all the ones in the engine bay, make sure the paint underneath is not rusted.
I'm sorry, what? Still on stock ECU? That's impressive. Who does the tuning?
Our very own Al McClure does all the tuning for the drag Sonic.
@@ZZPerformanceChannel wish I was closer. I need a tuner for my Toyota build lol.
I like a bigger wheel on the front look as long as their Square with the rear on the outside. A inch or two more of contact going inward towards the engine. The front tire sticking out further than the rear looks Goofy on cars.
To run a slick this size there is no way to keep it all in the fender. Even at the current size we have to have a spacer to get it away from the coilover.
god i wish i could afford to mac out my sonic lol
Could the car be built to be a rally car instead of drag car?
Yes
I really want to build up my Sonic, but don't really know if it's worth it.
They can be a ton of fun, but definitely have their quirks. If you keep on top of the PCV and coolant systems then they can last a long time and make some good power on the stock engine.
I bought a 2017 1.4 rebuilt title for cheap as project car for my kid and I. Don't know if it is worth it, but looks fun to mess around with.
Are we going to start seeing more parts for Gen 2 Cruze ?
We have a few products in development for the Gen 2 Cruze currently! Idk how far we will go with that platform, but we should have some products soon enough.
@Tyler Vogt go far! Id love to push my 1.4t, to about 300whp for a daily
What's transmission in this car f35 f40 ?
M32 which is the stock 6 speed in the Sonic. We specifically have an MZO M32 out of a 1.8 Chevy Cruze.
430whp😎
Does anyone know what car this motor comes in in Australia?
Vauxhall Corsa, Vauxhall Astra, Vauxhall Meriva B, Holden Trax, Vauxhall Ampera,and Vauxhall Zafira Tourer. It was also referred to as the A14X/A14N series overseas.
@@ZZPerformanceChannel Cheers mate
when control arms be in stock?
Hopefully before the end of the year, but it's all going to depend on the work load in our fabrication department. They just got some Grand Prix ones done.
Just curious have you guys considered changing to a 6t45 or 6t50 auto transmission? From research the 6t series bolt up to stock sonic auto bell housing. The 6t50 is rated over 250ho 250tq so should handle the power you're pushing.
I’ve done this to my 1.8 turbo Cruze! It works, got a 6t45 in
We have an auto Sonic that we are beginning to race with as well. It has our new production turbo on it. We won't be going all out like the black car, but it's good to compare. We have noticed that they make about 50whp less on a comparable setup, which is unfortunate.
bro they gave the grey shirt guy the right microphone and the blue shirt guy the left microphone
whats the engine? is it on a 1.4L?
Yes 1.4L LUV/LUJ. Stock block, stock crank, forged rods, forged pistons, valve springs, ZZP cams, and ZZP head studs.
what has this ran in the quarter
Its fastest time so far is 11.4.
But you guys can’t make a 1.8l turbo :,((((((
Really love the channel but could you lose the music playing the whole video.
Hey
Gonna beat an old horse here, adding extra weight definitely can give you better time, especially if your losing e.t over wheel speed in the 60ft 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ said what i said lol
I want to modify my Hyundai Elantra 2003
It'll be better with no background music..
Nope
What are your spark plugs gaped at??
On this car? .015"
@@gbrunner24 yes on the black sonic! Awesome to see its just on the coil pack and no ls7 coil upgrade!
@@daltonclemmons6314 We tested the LS7's back in the day and they made such little difference it wasn't worth developing a kit, and passing that extra cost to customers.
Keep it a drag strip car please?
That's the plan for now! Hoping to go sub 10 in the next year.
@@ZZPerformanceChannel Awesome stuff. I'd like upgrade my Cruze to 300whp and that would be plenty for the street. In addition I have 2000 Regal GS with all kinds of goodies, including A2W IC, E85, supercharger CAM(?) and 2.55" pulley with ZPP headers and some kind of dual exhaust setup. I have the N* throttle body with larger MAF sensor. A stage 2 transmission build from some company. Car it certainly a lot faster than stock as it ran 12.80 in the 1/4 mile with the 2.77" pulley. I need to learn how to tune. Then I have a 1986 Buick Grand National, with aftermarket heads and bottom end and fully built race transmission. Now that I spent all the money building up my Grand National, I am afraid to break it now that's why I got the 2000 Regal GS. Although my current setup on my Grand National should allow me to run 10s all day long. It has a 6265 Precision turbo and a massive aftermarket SLIC which still coolest just a good as a front mount. Hopefully I can modify my Cruze to the point of 300whp. However, give that it is an automatic trans, I am not sure if that is possible. Finally I have a 2019 Ford F150, with the 2.7L twin turbo v6. The little v6 puts out plenty of power and I have towed at least 6000 lbs with no issue, the engine didn't even break a sweat.
You guys should just redesign a better exhaust manifold. Just redesign all of the parts for the sonic. Problem solved
😂😂
If there's enough interest for a tubular manifold for the 1.4's we may make one in the future, however our next turbo is going to be more than enough power potential for 90% of all Sonic owners.
@@gbrunner24 i was just curious if that would fix back pressure problem.
Turn the music off!!! Literally stopped watching cause it made it so hard to hear you
Ditto