Horses that changed the way I look at things #3- The Mustang and the chicken
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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2019
- 3rd in the series of Horses that changed Warwick is the story about the chicken and the mustang which happened at our 2017 Easter clinic.
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I’ve heard stories about this! I’m so happy I was able to see the video! I’m now the proud owner of this mustang. I adopted him almost two years ago at that mustang makeover in Reno. It’s a day I’ll never forget. :) His name is now Jackson, and he’s honestly the love of my life. It’s incredible how much he’s taught me and the bond that we have is by far one of the strongest bonds I’ve ever had. Thank you for showing this video!
Wow, thats great, I wondered where he got to . thanks for letting me know.
Jackson has his own Facebook page if you want to give us a follow. You can find us at Jackson the Mustang on Facebook :)
@@jacklynhutton2065 That is awesome, and it is wonderful for everyone to know this Mustang’s story!
He's definitely protecting you from the chicken. My horse does the opposite, he hides behind me when he's scared lol
Horses definitely think. Out droving, I'd got off but left my whip on the ground and when I re-mounted, the mare would not go, cattle, horses and camp all ahead, and this was way out of character, so I gave her her head and she turned and went back 10 metres and stood over my forgotten whip. Same mare refused to go under a particularly low road tunnel, a bike path through an easement, but not until I ducked my head when she clearly said "Hang on, we are not safe, what if we need room to manoeuvre?" We went up and over the road instead. Same mare jumped off a track leading up a steep hill in a pine forest, ears uphill, I let out a coo-ee and two mountain push bikers emerged braking hard. Way back when she was green broke, she baulked at a dry creek crossing, she was never baulky without a reason, there was a black snake moving down the creek, and she was happy to watch it go, then continue across. This bay mustang watching the chicken? When he learns to relax and trust, he'll bear listening to, and he'll keep his outfit safe. Listen to your horses, folks, they are easy to read. They have senses and cognitive powers we can only dream of.
Sounds like my Polish Arabian gelding. I knew from experience that when he refused I should listen because he always had a good reason.
BlueRidgeMtns100 ..I think it comes once you develop a mutual trust.
That mare is a caretaker and a thinker! When you pay attention (i.e., collaborate) with those, they're terrific!
Thank you so mu h fir sharing your stories! Every single one helps understand how intelligent horses are.
My favourite thing about this story is how you allowed yourself to learn some new things from the people around you. They made observations, shared with you, you acknowledged their ideas and then did more investigating, and finally you agreed and shared it with the world.
Bravo!
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As I see it he was showing a natural instinct in the presence of danger to circle and gather his "herd" or in this case "you". He then positioned himself between you and the chicken with his business end at the ready on that chicken. Very cool.
Yes that is how I see it. And of course Ms Hen doesn't care if the horse has positioned his back end at her ready to fire because she wants company and wants to know what you two are doing and if there is anything to snack on. Chickens are actually smart and they are easier to train than dogs.
Nothing to do with chicken. Horse knew Schilling was talking to others, lesson not in progress. But had relationship things on its mind. Needed answers to them. Does this guy have short tempered buttons if I do This? Horses need get positive feedback from handled as well. Turns out Horse's hunch was right. This guy doesn't seem to react at trifling things. Like if I move if no lesson happening. Nervous creatures. Need answers.
@@TheReevessss horses ears were on chicken that's where his thoughts were
I just adopted a three year old Mustang gelding from Wyoming. I believe based on his paperwork he's been in holding since January of this year. The first couple of days yielded some great results with the approach/retreat (licking, chewing, etc. resting, etc.) However, I've started to recognize signs of being shutdown within a couple of days when attempting to connect with the horse past the approach/retreat. My interactions have been short (under 10 minutes) he isn't curious of me or even my horses. He treats the other horses like he does me, he wants distance kept, he doesn't "nicker or talk to them" He'll approach and eat hay if the fence is between us, but he's definitely aware/on edge. Your videos have been incredibly helpful and continue to be. I haven't had experience with shutdown horses so your videos have been very helpful. Thank you for everything you do and continue to do. Always learning.
How are you doing now?
And have you also watched Klaus Hempfling’s body language as he works with horses. I think you might find that helpful too.
The secret of Mr Schillers success is that he never stops learning. Even though he already is an expert.
At first I thought the mustang moved off because Mr. Schiller raised his hand, but a second watch at a slower speed changed my mind. The mustang's right ear and eye are on that chicken when he starts puffing. Each time he moves, he's watching the chicken. Each time he stops, he positions himself between it and Mr. Schiller, swiveling his business end toward her. He shifts his weight off of his back left foot when he's standing, head up, ears back, tense and defensive. The chicken turns her back, he drops attention to rub his knee, chicken looks towards him again and he immediately looks at her again. Really does seem to be about that chicken.
Sure does
Agreed, I done the same thing and watched it very closely!
That horses attention was on the chicken ! 😊
I've actually had a similar experience with my horse. I went to check on him one night so I was just giving him some love when we both heard something loud coming through the hedge. He took two steps forward so that he was ahead of me, arched his neck, stood taller, snorted and tensed. When the animal, (the family dog) came out of the bush, he stepped forward, sniffed the dog and walked away calmly. We live in Ireland, he's never met any animal that has approached with ill intent, he just instinctively protected me. It was incredible.
You were the one person who had put money in his emotional bank and gave him hope for the future. No chicken nor anything else was going to take you away from him.
I live in prime Brumby territory. The number of stories I've heard of brumbies protecting their humans is amazing!
My own favourite story (I've got a few) of my Brumby protecting me is this; one evening I was getting a few minutes in just to play with my Brumby before it was altogether dark. I'd just gotten off him to say good night and go inside when down the mountain came a chorus of feral dog howls. I shivered. I was only a kid, and home alone. But I didn't feel alone for long. Brumby looked up the mountain and then wrapped his neck around me and tucked me into his shoulder. I hadn't taught him that; I didn't even know that he could stretch that well! Our wild horses are underappreciated!
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My horse did this also for me and it was one of the most touching experiences in my life.
2 days before the guy who is working at the stables was coming too close to me and didn’t want to leave it was pretty frightening for me.He was drunk and I didn’t want to make a big thing from it,but it was a really uncomfortable situation.
2 days later he cleaned the stable,when I was there.My horse stood the whole time between him and me and ignored his affords to sending her out the box.Normally she is very easy to move but now she was just standing there and looking at me.
I didn’t understand the situation directly but later I a thought about it and came to the same conclusion like the people in this clip.
I’m so grateful to have this very special horse
All of the great life lessons I’ve learned have come from Mustangs, every single one and those have never failed to be a good path.
Oh my gosh! My favorite mustang trainers! The Espinoza's are always looking for ways to connect with their mustangs. Love them!
I am making a list of people who are really awesome at helping connect people and horses with each other and themselves.
Obviously he is protecting you , that mustang is awesome !
Mustangs are so instinctive, so very aware, so quick to respond. I love them.
Warwick, my honest opinion is that the horse was protecting you from that chicken. He wasn't looking at your arm or your hand up, he seemed focused on the chicken. He knew you were establishing something with him and he was going to acknowledge that and protect you. They are so amazing aren't they. Just when you think how much they learn from us, we learn from them. Great video, thank you so much for sharing this. Have a Happy Day!
Thank you
Everyone is saying he was following your arm movement, and while that makes sense he seems like hes got a lot of attention on the chicken, and keeps positioning his bum toward the chicken. He keeps looking back at the chicken and keeping it in his view. Really interesting
One of my horses is very protective, he alerted me to a dingo that was eyeing me off that I hadn’t seen, I was just standing patting him in the paddock he then charged this dingo running him out of the paddock, if there was no fence he would have kept going, that was about 6 years ago and it blew my mind at the time because I’d been around horses all my life and never knew a horse would do that. The other interesting thing was he knew the difference between a domesticated dog and the dingo. He’s very friendly with dogs but I think he would have really injured this dingo if he could have kept chasing him. I felt very protected 😊
It's interesting what animals will teach themselves. Dogs in our house are not allowed to put their teeth on humans. We have a rescue dog that's supposed to be an Australian Shepard. She is very excitable, but still was not allowed to put teeth on humans, and in her excited state she sometimes has touches humans with her teeth; nothing aggressive, but we still corrected her for teeth on a human. On her own, whenever she got excited, she would grab one of the rawhide chews in her mouth and then she would approach people with her full blown excitement. Once she started getting a rawhide in her mouth when excited, she never again needed correction.
I love this video because it's the first one I've seen where a horse is protecting his human and it's a confirmation to me because my Spanish mustang is very protective of me when she feels there is danger. She also protects her herd mates in the pasture. I watched one time as both my horses ran up to the barn. A few minutes later my Spanish mustang ran back alone, which I thought was unusual. Then she snorted and reared and bucked while looking off into the distance.
I love your honesty and humbleness. Thank you. You're an incredible horseman.
I don't have a horse, but I love these videos! That horse needed a purpose! Like in that movie The Blindside-you have to tap into the motivation. That horse's why was to be a protector in his herd. Keeping you safe gave him his "why!" I love that!!
We keep evolving by learning more and more about these noble animals. Thank you for sharing!
We are getting better at communicating with animals, while getting worse at interacting between us, humans. Thanks God, the animals don`t know how to use Twitter, FB and what else. So, in a way, yes, we are evolving ...
🐴🤎🤍🖤💛🧡 I think its awesome, Warwick, that you have such an open mind along with your loving heart. There is so much value in showing your journey into the way of being with horses that they actually really appreciate and respond well to!
Thank you!
My first riding lessons were on a Standardbred mare named "Roanie." For our second lesson we were taught flying dismount, and Roanie would always stop when she felt me put my hands on her withers to get ready for the dismount. There are perceptive, "caretaker" horses out there like the mustang warding off the chicken, and they are worth their weight in gold!!
BTW, that mustang has a great deal of space between his eyes; the old timers that taught me always said that meant that there was "plenty of space for brains." Just saying. 😀
That was awesome! He connected with you, just precious!!!
my horses do it a lot, circle me around like they want to protect me when my little doggies are running towards me. some of my horses even run a bit to doggies to keep them away from me. that's actually quite funny. and when some of my doggies manage to come closer and I pat them, suddenly horses change and accept their presence, show a bit interest by trying to sniff them and then they keep grazing.
That chicken part was really funny :) on a more serious note: just stumbled over your channel and i really appreciate the way you talk about horses and how you interact with them, especially in more recent videos :) !
Thank you
I had my newly purchased horse do this for me to a cat that came in the pasture with us!
Great story
Yes, I do believe that the horse was looking out for you! Way cool..
Yes he was worried. Awesome. Still he was really calm
Bloody great 👏👏👏👏
Never forget wild mustangs have true heard bond in them!
I'm in love with this.
Strange finding this video as I have been puzzled about my mustang showing simular behavior...everyone that has seen it says he's protecting me. Very interesting. Thanks for this.
How are you doing with your horse since this insight?
Love this, JUST ADOPTED A 2 Y O MUSTANG. Love the patience and presence you showed. Love that you said "I couldn't figure out what was going on". . Thanks
Gosh more please
Totally worth the wait! My mind was definitely blown. It's a beautiful story. Since I've been following your inspiration and tuning in to small gestures from the horses in my herd, I've had one amazing experience after another. Once you hear them, you can't NOT hear them. I hope there are more of these stories to come.
You are definitely correct ! Once you take the time to listen then it's like a grand Orchestra !
I spent many hours out in the barn and pasture just watching and it payed off big time later !
You have to be willing to try and understand some of their world so they can understand yours!
Woowww. That is powerful right there holy moly
I think you’re right. He has recognized you as a member of his herd, andis her behavior kicked in. So it’s not about domination as much as collaboration.
Wow! This is so interesting! Thank you for talking about it.
I am deeply moved by the healing you are affording these horses simply by being so soft and compassionately attentive to their deepest level of being. I personally feel the relief your horse feels from the genuine kindness you've shown them. Thank You! (By the way, do you have an update on Sherlock? Were you ever able to make any progress with him?)
Someone in the comment section has this mustang and they are apparently doing very well as of the reports she gave.
Fabulous video.
Love the story! I have a mustang myself and love how they think a bit differently than others. :-)
With that said... you moved your hand up when you where talking. Maybe he was trained to move around when pointing from his other trainer and thought you where asking for somthing by accadent when you moved your hand?
Still a very responsive horse and love the story. Thanks for sharing.
That was my thought as well. He moved to where he thought Warwick was pointing to :)
Hey, I did the Bailey's chicken training camp (before Marian died). A chicken will sure enough deliver an honest report on your training skills.
Anyone who wants to test their timing and basic training skills (setting criteria, shaping, etc) can do it with a dog or cat (chickens can be kinda mean and they can't be housetrained). Teach the dog or cat what the clicker means, then teach the dog or cat to press their nose against your index finger for a slow count of 10. If you are an honest trainer, you will find out exactly what is right or wrong with your basis training skills. If you are dishonest (by moving your finger to keep it pressed against the nose), well, you won't learn much.
Your learning to speak horse!
Awesome stories
Horses are just awesome ... I just went wow!!
You know what, I think you're right. And it makes sense.
Fascinating!
I'm really loving these. Got any more?
This is all definitely new information to me, and though new is not always better it looks very much to me like this approach is.
I have the 2 previous ones.
I saw those, but thanks for the reply! :)
Once I had a horse that protected the rooster from hawks in a big pasture. He would protect me from other people
The more and more I am realizing that I am constantly asking something of my horse instead of waiting for his offer. What you tell is really mindchanging for me. Thanks from Switzerland.
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He's huge for a mustang!
A Radieschen he sure is! I’m the new owner of this mustang and he stands at 16.1 now lol
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Wow cool, how's he doing? Would be lovely to hear about his development
He’s doing great! If you have Facebook you can follow us at Jackson the Mustang
That's crazy I've never seen a horse do anything like that before.
That Is amazing
My horse did a similar thing. I was handling a ram and it was giving me some trouble, so my horse come over there and tried to bite the ram and drive him away from me. After I turned the ram loose, he chased him off, biting and kicking at him the whole time.
Did the ram change his attitude after that lesson?
@@louisegogel7973 no, he did not.
@@thedestroyer9512 Oh dear, they can be pretty aggressive! And such hard head butts!!
Amazing! But how did the Mustang turn out? I hope he's happy in his life now.
Hello, I’m now the proud owner of this mustang! I adopted him from the Reno mustang makeover almost two years ago. I honestly couldn’t be happier with him
What I observed is that both times, you lifted your right hand while gesturing during your story as though to ask him out in a right circle around you and he was following that feel even though it was not what you intended.. .
If I sat in the ground... I wonder if my horse would step over .
Cause when I'm in a chair he comes sooo close
The Mustang looks much like my Mules would if a chicken came into what they would consider their space, as if he would like to go over and chase the chicken out of the pen/arena/pasture, I have also had a horse that that was quite normal behavior for.
Yup sure looks like your buddy is protecting you!!!!
Pressure and time ❤
Definitely just checking it out and maybe thinking, stick with training horses, forget the chicken thing with sticks and ladders. "valuable asset"
I've watched the series that "changed the way you'd see things", but still I can't figure out what had to be changed. I watch your videos from the last four or five years, I applied most of your techniques with pretty much success, your approach was respectful to the horse and understanding, so again: what did you change in your way of seeing things?
I listened to the smaller things more.
@@WarwickSchiller Actually, I believe you've honed your skill to perfection rather than changed the way you'd see things. Thanks for sharing with us and helping us become better horsemen and horsewomen.
Quick question, not trying to disprove what you saw here I’m just genuinely curious:
With dogs you don’t want a dog to feel like it has to protect you because it makes the dog more likely to be fearful and insecure, always on the lookout for threats to the “pack” or in a horses case “herd”.Do you want a horse to think they have to protect you? The way I was taught is that you want the horse to see you as their protector, someone who will keep them safe in scary situations not the other way around.
Just curious if you had any thoughts on this.
I really love how willing you are to approach things differently and are always working to improve the way you work!
Kaitlyn A dogs are predators, while horses are prey. Besides Warwick did not ask the horse to protect him, the horse felt secure and aware. The horse did not attack the chicken, he just put pressure on the chicken. If an animal is fearful and insecure, it becomes agitated. The horse was clearly not insecure.
After some time, when the horse locks on to him and sees him as the leader, the horse will see him as the leader, protector. In this video because the horse hasn't had much of anything done yet, it doesn't know that he's the real leader yet.
@@MattyDemello Great response to a good question. Wish my horses weren't so desensitized to every thing. I'd love to see if they herd me up or follow my lead. lol
A mustang. He was not afraid of the chicken, just keeping an eye on it. Could be he'd faced a scrub turkey gobbler out in the wild? Thinking the turkeys lost some size in his new world?
Horse very obviously circled around and pointed back end towards chicken. I don't get it either but that's what I hear this gelding say. He may not be "protecting" Warrick, instead just taking assertive action to protect himself by getting his kickers cocked and ready. But either way its something to think about. How neat!
Love this story! Hey Warwick what's up with your fuzzy pompom necklace?!?
It's called a dead cat, it a wind muffler that goes over the wireless mic, it was reasonably windy that day and if theres wind in the mic, the sound is terrible
@@WarwickSchiller oh ok that makes sense LOL I thought it was a new necklace to help with energy and focus work 🤣
B.S. chicken reasob. Lol. Horse trying to find trust, relaxation. One of those tests horses also give. They have things on their minds, must be answered about handler, so they know . To confirm what they are thinking. Is this guy OK? While horse knew there was no lesson going on, talking to others. Good time for horse to know, to test. Horse wanted to know if you were "reactive" (bad). They are a nervous animal. Like us. Need for special answers on the mind. If horse deduced Warwick was "trifling", or intolerant, would be a red flag to horse about Warwick.
Every time he moved, you had lifted your arm in that same direction. He must have thought you were asking him to move around.
My very intelligent 5yr old arabian gelding saw a pack of 4 dogs 300 yards from me coming in my direction. He took off like a shot, attacking the dogs and killed two. I raised him from a long yearling, hates for other horses or strangers to come near me. Almost predatory in my defense.
Were the dogs feral and possible trouble?
I want to know the end of the chicken story!
me too lolol
Why did the chicken cross the paddock ...........?
tina silver .....Horses do not digest whole oats, so picking up the ones missed in the munching, or other undigested seeds. Chickens will eat just about anything.
lol
Can you please make a video on how to get a dopey/disengaged/clumsy horse more aware. The horse isn’t nervous with humans but just seems to be turned off and it is hard to keep her engaged with groundwork. I will try this method first but I don’t think the situation is too similar really.
I think sitting near the horse as Warwick did, and being peaceful with your mind, just tuning into what you are thinking snd feeling, and what the horse might be thinking and feeling would be a very good start.
If you try it, let us know please.
I think that horse wanted to make sure that he stayed your center of attention, keeping the chicken away. Jealous .
lol
definitely think he was protecting you from the chicken- he could have stayed on the other side, instead he went to your back and faced his rear end to the chicken, you can even see his head turned to watch the chicken 24/7
a few times, i even see head bobbing- encouraging you to get away from the chicken. However, still so respectful they arent rearing and making loud noises to get you away, as they would an actual herd member. Respectful that you are a human, and are smaller, yet wants to protect you as their herd. Great minded!
Please tell me did anytime one of the horses kicked a chicken around there?
No, no chicken kicking (try saying that fast 6 times )
@@WarwickSchiller My God!
Warwick Schiller answered me.
Thank you so much.
@@WarwickSchiller lolololol
You need to train a wild horse from the beginning so you see how they work.
Don't know how much lunging work has been done with that horse, but it seems to me he was doing the circle and then squaring up to Warwick. I don't believe the chicken had anything to do with it.
Virginia Moss ...the mustang was most definitely keeping his eyes on the whereabouts of the chicken, and positioning himself to protect Warwick if necessary. He'd gone from a completely shut down horse, to a horse showing interest.
@@louisecassidy5991- How, exactly, do you know this? It's not at all "most definitely". How do you know that your view is not simply what you want it to be because that's more interesting and emotional? I do agree the horse had an interest in the chicken and felt free to check it out within the confines of the lead rope.
Virginia Moss ...May have been a combination of Warwick talking with his hands, plus the horse watching the chicken, yes, the horse seemed, belatedly, to respond to two hand signals, but Warwick said the horse was shut right down, and he'd not asked it to move its feet at any time, and he certainly was not addressing the horse, which having been on the scene for a couple of days would know that he talks with his hands. My apologies, how DARE I use the words "most definitely". The horse was focussed on the chicken. When he stopped, he put himself in a position to kick the chicken if it got to close, and he kept himself between Warwick and the chicken. Prior to the chicken showing up, the horse was not interested in anything at all.
@@louisecassidy5991 That is what I see as well.
And about the arm movements, we can check with Warwick if he had been using arm gestures before and how the horse responded.
I know he did use some gestures just for the horse to pay attention, but other than paying attention, nothing was put together for direction, so it is logical that the chicken was the focus more than the arms.
So, are you suggesting that this horse loves you? Kidding.
Talking about horses relaxing and urinating dials in with a discussion on the fb page just this week when a woman wrote that her gelding when relaxed would drop his penis and some of the barn witches at her barn had told her that no it was not relaxation but was his way of showing her dominance I competed that I thought that was codswallop that gelding don’t have sexual responses to people nor do stallions other than recognising a handler is going to take a stallion to serve a mare if it is always the same person doing the handler but the inference was along the lines of a stallion or gelding will react to a woman because she is female horses never get confused about those things it would not matter if you had been handling mares or for any other reason
It always irks me when people say that. I guess they are the same idiots that let a dog hump their leg.
I despise mustang makeovers with a passion.
If you didn't have the lead in your hand do u think he would have done the same?
That's a good question. It is possible the horse thought "I'm literally attached to this guy by rope so its all in or nothing. Its possible if he didn't hold the lead that the horse might've just ran away saving himself. But its also possible the horse would've done the same as it did here. Not to sure
I am going to guess the horse, now called Jackson by his new owner who has made comments here, would have done the same with or without the lead. If you also watch Klaus Hempfling work with horses, you can see so much of the response of horses is with Klaus’ body language… with or without lead ropes.
You ate his pet. He's adopted you.
Why can't wild mustangs remain wild?
Many MANY do.
Welcome to enlightenment. There is a mare that couldnt be trained by these guys who train thoroughbreds. Now that she is around people who care about her well being. She is much more trusting and friendly. She doesnt act like she wants to kill anybody. Lol this guy must have been very obnoxious and unpleasant.
So sorry, focused on your stupid sea-urchin necklace. Can't hear anything because of the sponge!!
So sorry about that, theres a lot to learn in this video. Its actually a microphone muffler, so I dont get any complaints about the sound quality.
@@WarwickSchiller No problem, I figured it was that but it is a bit different looking!!! BTW, you are awesome and I refer all my horsey friends to watch your videos. Thank you!