Horses that changed the way I look at things - Horse #2- Cody the Mustang
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2019
- Next in the series of horses that changed the way I look at things is Cody the Mustang from a 2017 clinic in Texas.
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Amazing story! My horse's demeanor totally changed when I learned to listen and he felt heard. We all need to become horse listeners!
Love love love seeing and hearing a master horseman with the humility and openess to "see things differently"!!!!
this guy is incredible, i think his openness/willingness to find better ways for the horse just always keep him on top.
Wow, that is really something. It never ceases to amaze me that a person is NEVER done learning the ways, the whys, and the hows of a horse. THEY are always teaching US something. Thank you for another educational video. 😊
Sweet Cody. He needed that relaxation and understanding so much. Bless you for helping him
This was the first video I saw after my Freesian/Arabian found me. Changed how I approached working with him (Valor) in ways I can’t express here. It sent me on a search. There had to be more. Unknown to me - until two weeks ago, my trainer had sold me, a green rider, a pretty green horse. So, my frustration level was so high that when i fell off him for the 3rd time in a year, after 8 months of groundwork, I was ready to give up. But I knew a trainer in San Diego and two friends brought us out here (from Minnesota) to get me back on him. She is phenomenal, and in less than one day had me back on him. I think of this video when I watch her work with him. And I scour your other videos to see if there is anything that can help me at that time. I thought I was coming out to fix Valor, but really, I needed fixing more. Had I not watched your video and rethought my approaches, I don’t think we’d be here. I have two more weeks with her, and then it’s back home to see if we can hang on to what we’ve got. Wish I could write more. Or post before and after videos (I have a few). #journeyon20
Amazing. A lot of trainers would try probably see him blocking them as disrespect and stress him out more. You really helped this horse.
We got an old mustang gelding (caught when he was about 10) at our barn too and he really tought me the importance of patience and respect for the comfort zone of a horse;
Things you should pay attention to with any horse.
Warwick, I am so grateful I found you on CZcams! I had not heard of you before and while my faithful horse companion of 19 years passed away several years ago, horses still hold a passionate part of my heart. Every time I watch you I get another epiphany about life! Thank you for your brave curiosity to think outside the box and to share your experiences with us! ❤️
I bought a horse that was treated like livestock well cared for but never noticed. He is training me. He knows a lot so I have been just asking for movements instead of demanding and wow his respect for me is big even when he is in the pasture free. I am the leader of the herd now accidentally because he is and he respects me. He comes up to me in the pasture now even when I have the halter held up high. Your channel is helping me put words into what he is trying to teach me thank you
Dear Warwick, what you are doing, I can't call anything else but incredible and admirable courage. You've turned 180 degrees away from what you used to do, you've set aside the methods that pretty much the entire world considers as correct and you've adopted what most consider to be the wrong way to approach horse training in favor of kindness, understanding, respect and gentle patience. AND you are showing the entire world now how much better this is in the long run. Thank you! From the bottom of my heart thank you for your patience, bravery and humility. You are my hero!
The horse realized that he could communicate with our species and he isn’t alone
I've been rehabbing senior horses for the past 10 years, and "training" fell by the wayside. What is fascinating to me is that what you demonstrate in this video is an integral part of listening to the senior horses that come into my care, many of them emotionally shut down. I am so thrilled to see this level of listening to the horse become a foundation on which future training can build. Thank you for your curiosity, desire to keep learning and step outside the box and share it with all of us. I've never commented on any youtube video in my life, but this so inspired me. Thank you!
When I found Warwick’s training videos, I had one yearling that would panic and bolt when I’d try to approach him. This video helped me to stop focusing on training and find a relationship with him. Totally turned him around into a sweet, kind and affectionate horse. #journeyon20
#journeyon20 I'm a huge fan of Warwick Schiller's videos because they teach owners how to solve horse problems without violence, which amongst other things results in calm, happy horses and a real partnership. This video is one of the many where Warwick teaches the owner to listen to their horse (the horse they have today, ie not having set agendas), as well as his sneaky knack of having owners do things in a relaxed manner (eg here, he doesn't tell the lady in advance, you'll be straddling your horse, that would have made her anxious and therefore the horse anxious) instead he breaks everything down into manageable stages - as he often says, he asks questions where the answer will be yes! I found the videos on getting horses to canter extremely useful because I was a bit anxious having been told my horse was ejecting everyone at canter- but we have no problem at canter! Thanks to all his videos generally, I feel like I have an amazing connection with my horse. She is very relaxed and can even be ridden in a headcollar - I feel like she has confidence in me that I'm not going to have unreasonable requests of her and so she is very obliging for what I do ask of her.
#journeyon20 I love horses, but I don't have one. Closest I've come is riding lessons, and cleaning pastures with my daughter at the place we took lessons. This video is my favorite because it really touched me. The attitude of observing what matters to the horse, letting them know that - the being seen, feeling felt, getting got, knowing someone gets you...just really touched me. Such satisfaction in watching you work with horses--you, Mia Lykke Nielsen, and Elsa Sinclair. My vicarious life.
This is sooo interesting. In the horse world, people are being taught that things are either black or white : you're either the leader or you'll get bullied by your horse. But like you say, when you start to think "outside of the box", you begin to see that, in some situations, things are grey. Because every horse, every experience and every problem is different, which means you have to think differently too. Since I've understood that, I'm enjoying working with horses even more ! And I actually feel like I learn every day.
It takes a lot to change the way you look at things, just because you've been taught otherwise for years. But once you start to develop a critical eye, I believe this is a key moment that will benefit you and most importantly your horse, deeply.
Thank you for such beautiful eye-opening stories !
When hearing stories like this you really start to think about all the conventional horse-training methods and about all this talk of "dominance" and "showing the horse who's in charge". It seems like horses just need us to understand them better and then they will relax around us on their own.
I’ve owned my horse for 8 years. The most important thing I’ve learned from her is to listen to her. That was also the most rewarding thing I’ve learned from her. I truly enjoy understanding my horse. Outside of my daughter, she is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I’m 71 years old and feel that if I should die tomorrow, I’ve had the best this world can give me. I thank God for that.
"I just said to him, 'i notice (you're) concerned.'" Nice. Acknowledgement. Adjusting. Gaining Trust First. Feeling safe resets the internal landscape. Sweet words..
I get made fun of because I dont get 'aggressive' enough when my horses don't respond quick enough. This boosts my confidence that I know my horses and I'm on the right track. Thank you.
Second time watching this video and I must say that I have learned more from your series of "horses that change the way I look at things" than probably anything else on the web. I have gained so much respect for you simply because you are willing & able to observe, think deep and adjust yourself as necessary to communicate with (which in turn helps) the horse. Most humans immediately think it's the horse that needs adjusting. On behalf of all the Sherlock's and the Cody's out there - thank you for sharing!
I wanted to say thank you so much for this video. I am a novice and I recently purchased a 12 yr old mare that has been in a pasture for more than 5 yrs. She was matted and neglected. It broke my heart. She is a sweet horse. I have worked for 4 months with her on the ground to even get close to riding. She was extremely spooky at just about anything. In the past week I have tried this method of waiting for the lick and chew for her to learn to relax herself. She is a different horse. She now lays down to sleep which I have never seen her do. She does not move when I stand beside her and jump up and down. It changed her ability to control her own fears and emotions! I am so very excited and planning to try to ride soon. Thank u so much!! I love this horse and she now seems so much more happy and relaxed!
I had exactly the same thing with a rescued collie dog who very unpredictable when i got him. He didnt sleep the first few days during the day as he didnt feel safe. The 4th day, when myself and other dog were being quiet and still at lunchtime, the dog finally went to sleep, slept for the rest of that day and night. He was much better after that. I later found out that he had been chained up for 2 years in a yard so no wonder he was stressed out. He was one of my best behaved dogs.
This is a video that deserves multiple likes, what an excellent example of connecting and working with the horse, so much better than "being a boss" all the time, much better to play the parent or partner role.
As always, part of good horsemanship (possibly the most important part) is reading and listening to the horse, trying to give the horse what he needs so he can give you what you want.
This is so interesting! Completely different way of thinking. Thank you for making this series.
This video about Codi the Mustang, is the video that really caught my attention on Warwick. I thought this was a real new way of dealing with horses. It was profond and completely new to me. I loved it, being as simple and true as paying attention, and showing we're paying attention.
What I like about Warwick is that you can't go wrong. Just do "what it says on the tin" sort of way 😜 not only you can see loads of different horses being trained or retrained, with the exact same principles and succeeding without failing but, also Warwick makes sure that you, the trainer, change the way you look at things by adding videos and advices on meditation, self awareness, sharing thoughts, books, people etc... It's a real journey, with the guaranteed light at the end for you and your horse. Warwick shares it all, starting by its own journey. One of my favourite video is when he shares the accident in Morocco. I found amazing and so motivating seeing that he was in fact "human" with its mistakes, doubts etc (of course not happy that he got injured!) and consequently I felt I could succeed too.Thank you. Looking forward to meeting you! #journeyon20
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I have learned so much from you! I rescued an Amish buggy horse a year and a half ago. I’ve never ridden and don’t plan on it! Watching the kind way you train horses is so easy for me to understand! I can see why you are one of the best! Thank you so much!
The second day of having my young brumby mare home, I spent about an hour late morning having a nap on the grass in her round yard, while she dozed on the opposite side facing me. When I eventually sat up to a cross legged possition, she then laid down and rested. It had been my goal to get her to rest, but that she felt safe to do so under my watch under 24 hours of being in this new environment with cars driving past and what not, was magical. Love your videos. :)
Great work
I just listened to the podcast talking about Cody. I have watched this video before but hearing it brought me to tears. For me it reminds me of a horse that did not workout. He needed more help then I could provide...it was hard to let him go... I hope and pray his new home is able to achieve a Cody breakthrough.
I used to get really frustrated because I could never get my Brumby to go fast; other horse people would say that's better than not stopping 😂. He must be comfortable around me because he's always sleeping near me. I actually couldn't pick up his feet for ages, so I trimmed them while he was snoozing. He has taught my two domesticated horses to sleep lying down too.
Yay! I can't wait for the next one in this series of videos. Riveted.
The next one is mind blowing
WarwickSchiller - I am beyond excited. I asked the universe how I could help my horses, who I have had on a paddock paradise for ten years, and now have to be in stalls, and are so unhappy... And somehow this just appeared. I'll find a way to let them know I'm listening to them. I will find a way to reassure and help them until we can get our own place again. Thank you. Can't wait for the next one.
I am a hippie so I am so relieved to see your epiphany-In the Ascension of our species we call this Upgrades and Attunements -congratulations! ! ! Debra
Been around horses 50+ years. Insightful video, learned a lot.
I like the fact that before he used to force his way through (so to speak) even though it's a good way with the hand he found a way to improve by simply waiting and asking rather than demanding or telling, it's nice to see a horseman that is adaptable too many horse people will not change their views or try new things
Thank you so much, Warwick, for sharing these videos. I'm finding that my training methods are following the same paths that your's are, by coincidence. I'm a bit behind you, as I'm just a horse owner drawn to troubled horses, rather than a professional that has a chance to have his hands on hundreds of horses a year. These videos are really helping me understand where I want to go, and what that path might look like.
Hopefully I can see up around the corner and help some people not make the same mistakes I have.
@@WarwickSchiller You already have! :D
I have no words to describe quite how thankful I am for your youtube videos and although I cannot afford a subscription you have taught me a lot. I have been watching your videos for a long time and if it wasn’t for you I would have given up on my mare a long time ago. You taught me that I had to listen to her rather than wanting her to listen to me and now I feel as though I can understand her better than ever before. Our bond instantly strengthened when I began to listen to what she had to say and she went from being very shutdown to a real character as I think she understands now that she can be herself around me and that she can trust me. I listen to every little movement she makes and now I have learnt to understand exactly how she is feeling, I wouldn’t have the horsemanship skills I have today if it wasn’t for you so thank you so so much. You not only helped my mare open up and communicate with me but you also helped me to properly open up and communicate with her as now I understand that a horse can see right through us and they know exactly who we are as a person. #journeyon20
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Wow! He finally felt seen and heard! How wonderful. If we can imagine coming out of the wild in a heard where they have their natural language, they come to humans and not feeling acknowledge! So wonderful.
I am reading a book "A Girl With No Name" and in Columbia at 5 years old she was kidnapped then wound up living with Monkeys for maybe 4 or 5 years. So, they were her family and friends. When she did start back in civilization she describes the stark difference between living with Monkeys kindness and cruel humans! I thought of this of course with the Mustang The humans did not understand her because she had no language and she walked bent over. True story ":-)
You definitely learn something new everyday
Not a dry eye here either.!!! What an amazing experience and so wonderful that you could identify not only the reactions of the horse but could extrapolate it for us to be able to apply it to our own situations. Thanks so much for sharing this with us.
I'm very impressed with your continual learning process and willingness to give credence to new ways of thinking.
That is absolutely wonderful!
This video was a breakthrough for me. I’ve successfully gentled a number of Wild Horses but I wasn’t able to get the 8 year old Mustang mare I was working with to grant me that last bit of trust. Because I could catch her, load her in a trailer, do all kinds of groundwork, I stopped paying attention to the small signs she was giving me. Thank you so much, Her trust in me has multiplied exponentially and I couldn’t be happier.
Great work Annette.
“New age hippy desensitization!?” I LOVE this!
I’ve just come across your videos-THANK YOU!!
❤️🙏🦋
What an incredible story! And i am thankful you went along with the hippie part of it….he found someone who listened.
this kind of thinking in terms of how to handle horses is very much like b.a.t (behavioural adjustment training) for leash reactive dogs. i have used bat with really reactive on leash dogs, and gotten brilliant results, i love seeing this used for horses. grisha stewart is the originator of bat work, you might get something out of watching her videos, or other bat videos on yt, you may find more inspiration for the work you are doing here.
i really appreciate how open minded you are with horses and handling of them, there will always be more to learn from you when you are always open to learning more.
Love this! Having tamed abused horses, I've noticed what a difference it makes to show a horse that you are listening to them. Mr Schiller you are a trainer that is making this world a better place for horses. Thank you !!!
Loving this.
People think a horse feels safe looked up in their 4 by 4 box, but forgetting that they are herd animals from open places.. That they like open places.
So they actually need to learn how to feel safe alone in their box.
And usually they can't escape us in the box, so unless it turns aggressive, the horse will be handled every day.
We will just walk right into its space.
Have you realized this chestnut horse is actively and sentiently supporting your lesson?
I think this is my favorite video of yours (although the 'when you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change' video is a very close second given how much I watch it), as it really highlights for me how you came about the deeper level of training & understanding you are at now.
I am super grateful to have been one of the many subscribers that at the time, got to learn about & watch you develop a deeper level of communication, understanding & empathy with not just horses, but with people & life in general.
Your learning & willingness to not just share it, but also teach it to us all was a blessing for not only myself (mindset is a biggy for me), but also my horses, one of whom has had chronic mild to moderate separation anxiety since coming back from her lease home some 6yrs ago & nothing I had tried helped in the long term... until you opened up a deeper level of learning & training for us all.
Since incorporating your new methods, like the ones you talk about in this video, my mare has learnt & continues to develop her ability to manage her anxiety herself, rather let it gather it up until she can't contain it anymore & explodes, despite the beer bug forcing me to cancel my sub earlier this year. I will be forever grateful to you Warwick, thank you. #journeyon20
Horses will keep us learning if we're open to it...
I found this really interesting. I recently purchased an unhandled Lusitano broodmare. She is beautiful, sweet and very levelheaded when it comes to cars, tractors, dogs, and other things that generally worry Horses, but she’s terrified of people. She is now used to me, greets me when I approach and finally enjoys being groomed, but is always extremely guarded and easily startled if I do something she isn’t expecting. I’ve had her since August and I’ve made a lot of progress, but I really haven’t found the key to solidifying her trust. I’ve even resorted to an animal communicator, but she wasn’t very helpful. I’m going to try this technique and see what it does for her.
It's hard to say which of the videos I like best. It's all those where the horses changed your view on how to go about things. This video is definitely one of my favourites. I never thought paying much attention to such little signs of discomfort, as shown here with Sherlock/Cody. And it's amazing how big change such a small thing can elicit in my natural sceptical mare. I try to be very mindful about things now, and the difference between when I do it and when I forget (hurry etc) is huge. There is so much to learn for me from these videos, and ultimately, from the horse.
#journeyon20
It was you all and your energies! I am guessing if you paid attention that all of you were probably calm, relaxed, and in the moment and so they were as well. We had the exact thing happen to our group at an Egala training. 😊
Cody looks like my mustang!!! She loves to roll and lay down. Super cool! Sometimes I’ll pick her feet when she is laying down.
Amazing how tightly wound horses are right up until they know someone cares and is paying attention! So many horses never get this from their riders.
I have a Chincoteague pony born wild. She does that block-out move. I'll try the advance and retreat!
Thank you for being vulnerable enough to share these stories and the moments that have shone light on deeper understanding. We all benefit. Wishing you, and all, many more such moments. Thank you.
I started actively learning "how to horse" this year. This story and subsequent video strongly influenced my approach to starting my first ever horse, a 2yo quarter horse. I never thought I'd be able to pick up on the subtleties of their body language and this gave me hope and an example of how subtle they can be. My horse is more connected with me than she was (she is also learning with me) and has been so much easier to work with since putting the Principles into practise.
To see a clinician change their thinking, and to see that process on video was powerful and a core ability that resonates strongly with me. Thank you. #journeyon20
Oh wow, what a incredible moment. I was tearing up just watching this beautiful connection between horse and owner and I can just imagen the heap of emotions she felt
I am absolutely amazed. I plan on adopting a mustang myself and this is absolutely something I will try. This had me moved to tears!!
This was magical. I'm going to be trying your methods with my Arab, also Cody, who I bought from a kill pen 4 months ago and seems to have MANY issues. Thank you thank you thank you!
You seem to be very gentle and patient and kind, what a wonderful affirmation you and costs owner got when he said he was finally feeling safe. I don't have a horse, but I enjoy watching people with theirs, and you are enjoyable to watch, unlike another who seems to be based in the USA, and hard sells his method, to me it seems it's all about him and his method and not about the horse. Cheers from Tasmania!
I have such admiration for you Warwick, that you have the humility to keep learning from the horses, admitting when something doesn't work and to be open to trying something new, especially when everyone is expecting you to carry on doing what you have been doing and you have such a following who were committed to working in this way. I subscribed with you a few years ago with my horse Timmy, he was raced in a sulky by irish travellers as a yearling, trained very abusively and had been involved in a crash that left his knees and tongue scarred. A lot of the stuff in the programme really helped him, but some of it really distressed him and when he got anxious he became defensive, pinned his ears and would often try to bite me (another horsemanship trainer worked with him at one point, labelled it disrespect, and spent half an hour laying into him with the snap, and he just got progressively worse, the next time I tried to yield the front he took a chunk out of my arm). It was all defensiveness and any kind of reprimand or increase of pressure made him worse so I quit. He hated the FAB exercise, it made him very obedient, and he would yawn and drop his head the instant I threw a rope over his back... but I didn't feel that we had the connection or trusted me in times of stress and remained anxious when in new situations and would still want to be with his buddy. He knew the buddy sour exercise by heart, he knew not to go near his buddy, but in his heart he still wanted to be with his buddy because I was the annoying human who made him trot small circles and didn't listen to the fact he was feeling anxious, whereas with his buddy he felt secure. So I quit and just started doing work in hand and slowly started gaining his trust. It is so great to watch these videos and I look forward to subscribing again to learn from your discoveries and your work with horses...
Mister Cody gave me a good chuckle with his chill demeanor after you got him relaxes. What a cool story. My mustang filly responds very well to this approach as well. Anytime she is concerned, I back off. She usually ends up coming to me soon after - I don't usually need to step toward her again. She's a quick learner and we don't have "arguments" that way.
What a great example. Thank you for sharing about Cody
Im not surprised to see this video . I have been watching your videos for a little while now and have been very interested to watch the reactions of most Horses that get into your zone, or spiritual space if you like . Because I believe most connection begins way before a physical meet up. While watching the video prior to this one a few minutes ago i became more sure of my recent hypothesis that Horses very often seem to really surrender into another place when they are around you. They seem to decide you are a source of safety, and then that good things always happen when your around. Consequently, frequently becoming very biddable, like a Border Collie ( I am biased to BC 's) . I often think Equus and BC's think in that complex higher zone. Horses seem to surrender around you, yes that's the word, therefore in a great place to learn, and you do not seem to over- do things and go relentlessly over things with them and wearing down mentally. Really nice. Australia
Marvelous. Bless him and Bless You for the way you've so thoughtfully paid such caring attention to your horse. From this video I can feel the relief your horse now feels. Very touching story and I feel lucky to have learned from you! Keep sharing these deep learnings with us!
Amazing how such slight things can go unoticed, and then by chance brought to realization. I can't wait for the next video in this series, these first 2 have blown my mind. Thanks Warwick.
That story is truly incredible. This is real horse whispering. lol. I truly believe that horses can well and truly teach us about our own psyche and also the importance trust has in everyday relationships. If we don't trust a person or a situation, what do we as humans do? We immediately tense up, get into a closed position and if we feel too scared, we either fight or run or freeze. Just like horses. Keep on listening Mr. Schiller. It's obviously working. Horses really do have the ability to humble us and they have the ability to make us as humans feel calm around them. I guess it's by starting with the basics that trust is earned between the horse and rider and where the bond begins. Being with horses is when I feel my calmest. Your method seriously works and it doesn't break the horse's spirit. It has the ability to enhance it.
Yep! Those mustangs can teach us a lot when we learn to listen. You are amazing.
All I can say is
“Wow”.
What a beautiful story of creating that trust and bond with them.
I didn't tear up watching this (even though I think you did telling the story 😓), but my reaction was more of chuckling in delight, giggling with wonder! How amazing!! But, I'm sure if I was THERE I probably would've cried!!
Amazing. Makes total sense!
Your videos have helped me to communicate better with my horses. I’m still working on being more present with them but this video really should me how important it is to pay attention to their subtle cues. That is why this is my favorite one. #journeyon20
Great story. I love it. I love the fact that you just went with it. It was a perfect people training moment to go with the horse. I believe what you had that lady do with rubbing him while he was down, ended up being the best training session she could've had with him. That's great stuff. That was a great bonding moment for them 2.
Gorgeous story! Thank you! 🙌🙏💫
I will have to try this with horse. Now that you mention it my fella blocks me. He seems relaxed enough, he doesn’t bolt but me getting him on a float is getting worse. It’s so bad that he’s able to turn his head right around and then he nearly went down. So something is scaring him but it really frightened me too. Thank you 🙏🏻 🙏🏻🙏🏻🦄🐎
So much to contemplate. Thank you very much.
Wow 😳 So amazing!
This was beautiful. Thank you
This is an incredible lesson. So incredible to watch!
Thank you for this video ❤
This was so interesting and informative. Thankyou again.
So beautiful. Thanks so much for sharing:)
massively incredible
What an awesome story! Thank you, Warwick, for sharing this story. I'm so looking forward to more stories as I'm sure there are many for as long as you've been working with horses. I see that you are giving these beautiful creatures the credit they deserve.
Ps, I'm so looking forward to seeing you in Michigan next month!
Love your videos! Love the new perspectives
Wow, I just found your channel and love your work. I try to be a better myself every day and I thank you for opening my eyes a little bit more with your videos so I can improve myself and my understanding of horses.
Great video!!!! Learned more from this one than many others! (And their great too!)
Love this. My horse blocks me too sometimes when I go to walk to the side of him. I'll try this the next time!
Well being a new-age mind/body gal for over 20 yrs lol I can see how simply 'paying attention' and taking the time to really notice how horses are communicating or feeling, pays off big time! I"m an Herbalist but work with mind/body even more these days and 'energy' is all around us...including the vibes we give off and the animals around us. Good for you for keeping an open mind and seeing it pay off as a win-win! :) AND thanks for sharing...as I'm only just starting riding again after a decade of not really riding...so I feel a bit like a newbie all over again ;) I'll also be paying more attention.
What a great story !
Great info, Thankyou
Wow! So interesting!
Congrats 😊. I've been learning the same thing a while ago
Yep you have entered the spiritual level my friend.
I loved this!
Really really cool m8
Thanks for sharing
Hopefully you'll come back to Massachusetts. I got to say sir, your price per clinic is amazing. I once paid 200 bucks for a clinic that was only like 4 hours. Yours is from around 8am until 5 or 6pm. Amazing work. You could charge more.
Wow I love this