Real Time with Bill Maher: Overtime - January 23, 2015 (HBO)
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Bill Maher and his guests - James Fallows, Former Gov. Howard Dean, Bret Stephens, Nia-Malika Henderson and Bill Burr - answer viewer questions after the show.
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Bill Burr is thinking "so when do we starting talking about football?.."
Poor Bill, he felt so out of place. I wish we heard more of him.
You know what it is? There was an issue filling the guest spots, and he was last minute. I love Bill Burr and am glad he got the spotlight, but today was not the right day.
Bill was great during the show talking about our infection of Political Correctness & Censorship. The discussion topics did not lend themselves to comedic quips, but I hope Maher has him back.
I love Bill Burr. I thought he emasculated Maher. He let the air out of his tires.
I love Bill Burr. *_"You won't do worse than me, so have at it..."_* Everything he says gets the biggest laugh from the audience. And laughs are often a sign that people recognize _honesty_. That's why I love comedy; it's an art form that _cannot work_ without 100% brutal honesty....even when it's a small trivial joke like the one Burr said to Dean. Still....comedy is THE last bastion of honest free speech that exists. That's why it's so incredibly important.
Jack L Chango
Both Bills are great, how does he "let the air out of his tires"? Comedy is satire that is so needed, but how do you differentiate the 2?
Bill Burr looking around at 7:55 as if to say "Oooohhhhhh Jeeeeeeeee-sus" made me smile.
one joke and bill burr stole the video xD
Bill Burr's two sentences were the best part of this whole segment.
Bill looks so uncomfortable throughout this. He is making me laugh without even telling a joke.
He looks like he's bracing for the impact of a question he may not be able to answer. LOL!
Bill Burr is like: you crazy fucks😂
my god i love bill burr
lol, it's ok Bill....your fans know you're a genius
Bill Burr can fit one of Bill Maher's monologues on a line he thought of off the cuff.
I think Yemen actually is the perfect example of American counter terrorism policy; i.e. everything we touch in the middle east dies.
playingdablues
cough*Japan*cough
*****
cough they lose eventually anyway cough.
cough 2 nukes cough is the act of genocide cough
playingdablues If anything it aggravates the situation. The reaction you get when ethnic people kill within their ethnicity is different than the reaction you get when there's a sentiment of "white man blew up my home and family".
Duc Tran "The Allied bombing campaign was one of the main factors which influenced the Japanese government's decision to surrender in mid-August 1945." Don't forget that the Soviets were starting to move on Japan(after the US did all the work). So even if I don't wholeheartedly agree of nuking cities, but the fact still stands, that Japan is currently one of the most successful countries along with Germany(also bombed by the US). Does it mean that I think that bombing solves everything? No. I was just objecting to the statement that "Bombing never solves anything for long, it just creates destruction and animosity." which the examples of Japan and Germany clearly show.
***** Back then, America was the good guys.
Poor Bill Burr looks so uncomfortable during this whole conversation.
I agree with Bill Burr.
That conservative guy was good. He delivered even though he was badly outnumbered.
repeating the same clearly memorized answers over and over again helps quite a bit
Mckenzie .Latham It's your fault if you don't come prepared for a debate.
Kempes SFA
yeah but there's being prepared knowing what your talking about and reciting from memory every basic talking point you've said a thousands times before.
Mckenzie .Latham like Maher?
Luis Dias
the difference is Maher is right (and you can never stop reinforcing the truth on those who don't wish to see it) Bill maher is like the person who keeps telling the idiot not to poke a fork in a toaster, who then proceeds to poke the fork in the toaster
"I'm not passing this class" HAHAHAHA thumbs up if you've ever taken a course like that!
Can we have Bret Stephens again? I don't agree with several of his points, but he's very good at debating with Bill Maher.
Superman13195 Do you not think Bill Maher has a machine behind him putting together the topics and the argument for the others to debate? I was at that taping and I have to say that even though Bret Stephens was outnumbered badly, he held his own and argued his topics very well. I know they had a 'rehearsal' before the taping so I'm not sure as to how much these guys know about what will be discussed on the show. I do know that since it's Maher's show, he's going to come in very prepared on each and every topic that is raised. That lady barely said anything the entire show and Dean sounded pathetic backing down to Maher not once but twice during the show. Dean is a smart guy too. Stephens didn't back down once, Burr when off camera was leaning back not knowing what to say. I felt bad that there were so many topics he wasn't really able to contribute to.
ah bill burr, fuckin love you
Bret Stephen's deserved more of an applause for some of the points he was making.
Stephens dismantled those two idiots so good. Respect him and maher
Yea that conservative dude was the most well spoken repubb that I have ever seen on this show- presented his points very cogently. Climate change was the only place where he needs to get with the program, the rest I at least see where he is coming from.
+Aaron Arabian Why's that?
Lmao I love Burr. He's just sitting there like "Maybe if I sit really still they'll forget I'm here"
I love Bill Burr. *_"You won't do worse than me, so have at it..."_*
Everything he says gets the biggest laugh from the audience. And laughs are often a sign that people recognize _honesty_. That's why I love comedy; it's an art form that _cannot work_ without 100% brutal honesty....even when it's a small trivial joke like the one Burr said to Dean. Still....comedy is THE last bastion of honest free speech that exists. That's why it's so incredibly important.
I love how Bill Maher always has 1 famous person on the panel who knows nothing about the politics and just sits there awkwardly haha.
I notice a lot of people are saying that Bill Maher got "owned" by Bret Stephan's but I think it's just a misunderstanding. While Bret made respectable points, just because Maher doesn't retort doesn't mean he was stumped or left speechless like some people have commented. Bill is simply giving Bret the last word and moving on. This happens a lot during his show and, if you don't know any better, it really does look like Maher has conceded and doesn't know what to say but he's simply just being a good host and giving his guest the final word. Maher has to manage time as his producers are constantly reminding him it's a live show. So I'm not trying to discredit Bret Stephan's views but please don't think Maher couldn't respond to most of his points.
Bill didn't get owned. He let Bret talk because when it comes to the subject of Islamic terrorism he largely agrees with him.
Bret Stephens from the WSJ was very impressive last night. The reason that Howard Dean and Nia Henderson had nothing to say is because they knew they weren't in Bret Stephens league. Dean and Nia's arguments are based on opinion and political talking points - they rarely have any facts. Bret is clearly well informed and has a grasp of the facts.... His points about global warming and settled science is a classic.... just because all these climate scientists proclaim there is man made global warming based on consensus is not fact based science. there was wide consensus in the past that the earth was flat and that the Sun rotated around the planet earth - but that consensus did not make it a fact. .
I'm not so sure. I think his body language demonstrates the exact opposite. He doesn't have the right response, but he knows the information is out there somewhere to refute it, he just doesn't have it on hand. That's why in a couple of weeks he will bring up the exact topic and refute it.
mjd121 Of all the conservative guests in the last years Bret sure was one of the better informed ones. However... like Bill said: Galileo worked against religion, not science. So your flat earth argument falls, you know, flat. In the grand scheme of things, sure, specific science is valid as long as there is a better theory to explain something. But to some degree, if a vast majority of experts agrees on something as crucial as the environment, we should actually act upon that. You wouldn't listen to the single guy saying your house is fire proof if 49 other architects tell you it isn't. Also: there is no such thing as 100% certainty in science.
Bill couldn't respond to Bret during the show because Bret was just making some stuff up. For example, Bret said a bunch of Nobel prize winning scientists ranked climate change low in priority among things we could combat. Bill never heard of that because it didn't happen. Some economist did that, not scientist. And, it was a poor argument anyway filled with false assumptions and false choices.
Bret also lied about a 1935 and 1975 "consensus". Just because Newsweek did a story on global cooling, it does not mean there was a scientific consensus. In fact, there wasn't. The writer of the Newsweek piece has said the climate change deniers are wrong for using his article as an example. You could tell that Bill didn't want to rehash that old debunked argument again on his show.
Hey, I'm a Democrat, but I've got to say, it should be really hard for Republicans to come on Real Time. They have the audience, the panel and the host against them. You at least have got to give it to them that they have the balls to sit and take so much shit without support.
Yeah... All except they're not really brave, they're just full of foolish, stubborn, conservative elite, pride and are just arrogant enough to think they're never wrong about anything! So they are absolutely convinced they just GOTTA go on Real Time, and set dem "librals" straight! However, almost every time, once they get there, they proceed to demonstrate why their entire ideology, meaning, their logic, convictions, facts, positions, and arguments, are always so full of giant holes, and on nearly every subject too! Thing is NO ONE can EVER get 'em to see it!!
Yeah, well, I think you're right. They probably end the show thinking "I really battled them on their own turf and kicked their ass. I showed them who's really wrong".
Oh man Bill Burr's joke was perfect. I was thinking... Geez can he follow any of this?
Bill was thinking get me the fuck outta here
I watched the entire thing to hear Bill Burr....
The smartest Republican I have ever witnessed is the guy on this panel. Republicans would do much better if they had a guy half as smart as this guy as their nominee. Though I still disagree with some key points of his, he is much more impressive than anything I've seen from the right ever since I was old enough to follow politics.
+ahpacific Agreed.
Agreed. Just look how the former Governor spoke in riddles so he wouldn't have to say 'Islamic Terrorism'..
kirked007 Howard Dean is a fool and scaredy cat. He's to afraid to offend his own base.
He's Jewish. The crazies in the party would flip out.
I've been following Bret Stephens for quite some time. He is brilliant and too intelligent for this show.
Poor Bill. What the fuck is with this panel? Why didn't they make him read Me Undies ads while they were at it? Talk about boxing a guy out...jesus.
4:10 lmao Nia-Malika's face when Howard Dean got asked that question lol
Bret Stephens is a bad ass! Too smart for this show.
and today he can say he was in The Mandalorian!! LOL
Bret Stephens pwned Bill Maher a couple times there. Refreshing.
while dodging the "islamic" issue is embarrassing for liberals, citing bush's miscues when someone criticizes obama sometimes seems worse.
Lol, Bill Maher regularly lets his Conservative guest get their say without shouting them down ala O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. He lets someone from the panel rebut the arguments but in this case, Dean was a bore and so was the lady. Just watch him with Ann Coulter, he just laughs her off, as she should be.
The only time he doesn't smirk and shake his head is when a topic is about religion, especially Islam.
Pwned? Yes. But I am sorry, Bret Stephens is the type of person who "wins" by using his intelligence and education to dismantle arguments, which usually is a good thing if done honestly.
Here is what he did on the show:
1. Using obscure history without providing context in order to appear informed and to make it impossible for others to form counter arguments. (AKA Smart Lying)
2. Using a few exception to prove 'See, he is not so perfect, so I win you lose'.
3. He retreated into 'Well no one knows' when faced with something he did not prepare beforehand.
4. Pretend someone's counter argument is changing the topic when it really isn't and use subtle strawman to discredit counter arguments without providing anything of substance on his end.
He would makes a great political operative, but only as a hyper-partisan one.
I'd almost think he got ridiculed for his ideology as a teenager and then spent his life trying to get revenge by tirelessly researching every loophole he can find so he would not lose the argument even if he cannot defend his ideology. Hence you never see him try to voice why he is correct, he is only attacking the opposition to appear correct by default. Smart but also idiotic.
Rush P. I agree. Of course, Bret would have brought up the common right wing talking point that Democrats had a super-majority.
I wanted someone to say that raising the minimum wage is needed but you don't do it when you're losing hundreds of thousands of jobs per month thanks to Bush's Great Recession.
7:16 Bill Burr falls asleep and then wakes up xD
Love Bill Maher! Great show tonight!
I feel like howard dean and bill could have a beer and chill together lol. HYAAAAAHHHHH!!!
Bill Burr looked like he was at a tennis match...
Ugh I love this show so much. I have no idea what I'm going to do if Bill gets tired and stop doing this show.
Like ;-)
Yaaas. Bitch
So here we r 7 yrs later, show still going. How bout max alex? U moved out of the bsmt?
James Fallows is my new hero!
My two favourite Bills in one place. A dream come true.
Definitely came here to see Bill Burr.
That conservative guy was so annoying, you could tell that his arguments were prepared, and he was never going to adjust his stated opinion no matter the evidence, or the actual question or statement by the other panelists. He also made it really difficult for the other panelists to be able to make their own statements on many of the arguments, he just ate up all of the time, and his repeated comments (especially during the full show about climate change) were so idiotic that the other people didn't know how to respond. Maher did the same thing as me, just laugh at the guy.
However, Dean shows the idiocy and bubble of liberals as well, by refusing to relate all of the Islamic Terrorists to the religion. Eh, I guess everyone has to play to their base, except Bill, he says whatever the fuck he wants.
If his comments was so idiotic then you would be easy to refute, but the reason they couldn't refute what he was saying is because there was nothing to refute.
You thought he was annoying because he is intelligent and knows how to argue for his side very well. That does not mean he is correct of course, but he was not some slobbering conservative sniffing paint before trying to make arguments.
You should check out this article, it touches on a phenomenon where the better your education when coupled to an ideology, the more likely you are to reject reality. Why? Because such people are more adept at dismantling arguments they disagree with.
arstechnica.com/science/2015/01/education-plus-ideology-exaggerates-rejection-of-reality/
On climate change both liberals and conservatives have some biases that color their perceptions. Conservative denials over man made influence on climate change stems from an aversion to accepting the notion that they are engaging in harmful behavior that needs to be curbed by the state. Many think that if they concede the point that mankind can and does influence the climate, then there will be a domino effect where they will have no choice logically but to go along with every liberals demand over policies to combat climate change under the sun. That does not follow, but there are so many small minded conservatives who are too insecure to dodge this trap of flawed perceptions.
On the liberal side we can use Bill as an example, he often cites the overwhelming consensus of scientists that climate change is being influenced by mankind. I think he's correct about that. But Bill goes further, he thinks that because they agree that human beings influence the climate in modern times, that there is a solid consensus on the consequences to those changes. There the data is NOT so one sided. Predictions about sea levels can vary wildly but Bill and his comrades take the worst possible predictions and presume they hold the same weight and wide adoption within the scientific community as something like the more general agreement over man made climate change.
playingdablues Thanks for proving my point.
neosoontoretro I could refute everything he said and I am sure others on the panel could as well. Yes, Howard Dean stuck to only one point that seemed to go over the other's heads. He assumed that others could understand. Bret and Bill did not seem to get it.
Richard Fairfield Sure, you could. No, if they could refute what he was saying then they would have done so. Also, if you think Howard had anything valid to say then I really have to question your intelligence.
Bill Burr gets respect for being real.
Bret Stephens ducking and dodging the question at about 9:00 was funny. 2 others were calling him out on his evasion and he was still hemming and hawing. It's like he was playing hide and seek, the others found him, told him that they could see him, and his response was, "No you can't! I'm invisible!" while everyone else shakes their heads ay his transparancy.
Bret Stephens really destroyed the group logically. He is a really smart guy. really answered each person with logic and facts, educated comments.
Ooooh shieet my man Howard Dean, HYAHHH!!!!!
Even Bill Maher, who has always shown that he is a strong supporter of Israel, is starting to see the big picture. You can tell that as a liberal, he cannot except that so much influence on US policy is exerted by a foreign country, even if that country is an ally. When a majority republican congress has more respect to the leader of a foreign nation then its own president, something needs to change. The founding fathers must be rolling in their graves.
*accept
"This isn't Harry Potter" hahaha
I wonder how many times he thought to himself, "Why in the fuck am I even here?"
Bill Burr says one thing in the whole video and kills it.
4:15 For Bill Burr.
Bill Burr is fucking awesome. Loved him on The Nightly Show and he killed it again on Real Time. I hope he does some more comedy DVDs or maybe some live streams on comedy central. :D
Bill Burr: "what the fuck are you guys yammering about?"
This is so similar to when Norm Macdonald was on Politically Incorrect in the 90's. Comedians hate being forced into foreign policy discussions 😂
Needed more Bill Burr
Bret just proved you can win a Pulitzer and still don't have your facts right.
Burr made a couple great points there!
Realtime with Bill Maher would be so much better if Bill Maher wasn't in it.
Liberals think it's always unfair to blame Obama. Give it a rest. He's not beyond reproach.
manguy2000 and conservatives think it's always fair to blame him. I'd love to just meet in reality, which is somewhere in the middle
Bill Burr is adorable
Howard Dean!? PUUUYAAAAH!
I love 7:56 Bill Burr's reaction to that question - he's like, "I'll let the nerds handle this one."
I hope Howard Dean looked up some of Bill Burr's work after the show, I think he would love him given his genuine laughter here and earlier in the show as well. Would certainly show great taste on his part if he did.
Howard Dean tried to be president? hahahaha
Please put the same Panel up in January 2021.
Bill Burr is very intelligent, he's just too real to act like a standard-issue talking head and spew well-crafted BS like the other panelists.
Bret Stephens is a good debater. He can really put forth a fire-resistant straw-man and some tangled non sequiturs.
lmfao bill burr freakin love that guy
I don't get the constant deflection back to Bush. I didn't understand it in 2009 and it makes even less sense now. Is this just Maher's way of expressing buyer's remorse after donating so much to the president's campaign? Bush and Obama are not comparable for the mere fact that one is president currently and one is not. Bush was his predecessor, not his competitor. That's before I ask why criticizing this administration automatically puts you in the pro Bush camp.
Bill Burr!
Bill Burr's reaction after each question that is read is priceless.
"let's just stop talking about it" always when the discussion just starts getting interesting...it's cut off @8:00 or so
The Washington post guy made every point clearly and well thought out. I'm a bit of a left winger but it is refreshing to see a Republican argue and debate smartly. He never said anything stupid like "its called leadership" as if that's an actual argument. Smart and informed intellect. As a Democrat I say we need smart Republicans and writers like that. Its a two party system and I want our Republicans in there fighting for what they believe. We need them too. That guy said smarter stuff in one hour then anything ever uttered at Fox or Clear channel ever.
I enjoy the show but why invite just one conservative to be badly outnumbered by the rest? Btw Stephens is brilliant.
Breaking news: Congress and the Senate have agreed to go along with President Obama's pardoning of the thanksgiving turkey.
Not sure why but they completely cut the "I FEEL LIKE IM BACK IN SCHOOL AGAIN" in the U verse in demand segment
I don't necessarily agree with everything Bret Stephens says, but that man can debate with the best of 'em. I wish I was as articulate and charismatic as he has presented himself to be time and time again.
That guy used the word "behooves" three different times during the show. That's way too much behoof.
Bret Stephens was the smartest guy in the room by a mile...why the hell isn't he running for the 2016 republican presidential nominee?
Yes! Naming does make the task harder!
You know when you are hanging out with your friend and all their friends are there and you don’t know any of them, that is bill burr in this situation
good lively debate. i wish i could keep up with the last bit.
I wish Bill Burr spoke more.
1. I'll start doing horrible things.
2. People will start condemning me.
3. I'll just say I'm doing it for Christianity and try to find or twist (not so necessary) any word in The Bible to support what I'm doing. Suddenly my crimes are coloured with nobility and my acts are defending the sacred.
4. Christians will eventually find my logic, and as "I'm one of them" they'll support me when others start attacking my religion for being the cause of my atrocities.
5. When the majority of fellow Christians are alienated for the abominations I cause to happen, following my logic, they'll have to start to turn to my side, the only one that welcomes them.
Christians did that in the 16th Century, Muslims are doing that in the 21st Century, let the Scientologists do that in the 26th Century.
4:43 Howard Dean: "...I don't believe in doing what they want us to do."
What if they wanted you to call them thugs and terrorists? Would you then refuse to call them that? Dean's argument is weak.
Ole' boy at 5:00 had a good point until he compared Nazi's with socialism. . .*crickets*
+Susie O'Drangus Nazi stands for National Socialist. Nazi Germany ran a true socialist economy with the government commanding all capital allocation.
+Dr. Logos in a socialist society, people own the means of production not the gov. There is no ruling class.
Nazis were socialists you mook.
+Dr. Logos And North Korea is democratic republic. Becasue that is the name of that country.
tomekgulash Nazis were socialist in practice though. They were true socialists in that the bulk of the capital was controlled and operated by government. North Korea is obviously not a democratic republic, because the citizens of North Korea can't change the law through any democratic process.
Bush: “He [Putin] is a great guy.”
Is this 2019?
I was kinda disappointed that Bill Burr didn't get more airtime (that he didn't talk that much) on this episode.
The new episode isn't on HBO go yet Bill. What's up?
Bill Burr was the best of the whole panel
I agree with Bret Stephens' comments. I also disagree with Howard Dean's point.
Bret Stephens is quite a weasel. He is smart enough to know the dishonesty of the cynical comments he makes regarding Anything that Obama says....
ooohhhh
billy boy!
Here we go again!
I know for the most part bill burr takes the conservative side.
"BYAAA!"
I really like it when articulate conservatives show up. It makes the debates sound smarter.
Not that dumb conservatives aren't hilarious
Oh C'mon, Maher! One minute you're interviewing Netanyahu and fawning all over him and the next you're saying we're getting too close to letting Israel decide our policy on Iran? You can't take both sides of the argument.
I hear Yemen and I think sweet potatoes.