Mollie 'The Resurgence of Gaeilge: Irish with Mollie's Effort to Save the Language from Extinction'
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2023
- Today on the show we have a very special guest, Mollie, of Irish with Mollie Instagram fame. Now Mollie is from Dublin and has been on a mission to spread the love of my native language, Irish, or as we say in Ireland, Gaeilge. To give you a very brief background on our history in Ireland, we spoke Irish up until the British rule, and it wasn't until the early 1900s and 1916 that we regained our independence, but we never regained our native tongue fully. It's now spoken only in parts of Ireland, and even though it is mandatory in schools. Many in my generation really had little or no appreciation of its beauty. Now Molly's gifted me access to her courses and I'm about to start taking her courses. So who knows, you might start to hear me weave a few words here and there into the podcast.
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I raised two children in a Tri-lingual household. English, Russian, and Armenian. I had read somewhere that the way to ensure that children learn all three languages was to have one grownup speak exclusively one of the languages with the children. We did that mostly and - it worked!! I spoke English, mom spoke Russian, and grandma spoke Armenian. They learned all three languages without interference. One day when my elder daughter was about four years old she started speaking Russian with me. I said (as I had a million times before) "speak English with daddy." She would always get frustrated when I said that. This time she got frustrated and then I could see the lightbulb turning on over her head. She said "Daddy, if I say it like this that's English?" I said yes. And then she said in perfect Russian "and if I say it like this that's Russian?" I nearly fainted. I mean, think of the genius of that! She didn't even know she was speaking different languages. To her, there was "language" and for some reason these silly grownups wanted her to say "it" in a certain way. She saw no difference! The simple fact is that little children are language acquisition super-geniuses. The way to save the Irish language is to ensure that every Irish child attends an Irish-immersion play school. If you get them by the age of two (better even earlier) they learn the language effortlessly and perfectly. This is the trick. Learning a language like Irish beyond the "critical age" is fine, but it's not going to save the language. Only getting every Irish child into an immersion play school is the only for the Irish language to triumph. But if the Irish people do that, I promise you that you will save your language.
So true and well said!
Do you know an Irish-immersion play school where to go during holidays? We are living in Switzerland and would like the small one to have some basics while having fun. But that’s not easy to find…
Yes you're exactly right. In Wales we now see second language speakers sending their children to Welsh medium playgroups and primary schools creating new first language speakers and so families that had been speaking English sometimes for several generations are now speaking Welsh again. The only way you can bring a language back is language courses for adults and full immersion for children. And people have to really use the language. If you don't use it you really do lose it where language is concerned!
The people working hard to popularise and teach the wonderful Irish language deserve a huge amount of credit. Languages are dying out, all over the world, and it's refreshing to see that there are people dedicated to preserving their native languages. Irish needs all hands on deck: videos like this reassure us that there are people who devote themselves to keeping the Irish language alive. 😼
Is mise Seán O'hAodha, O Seán Chíuin, dar tanm. Go raibh mile maith agat, Mollie. I won my share of Gaelic sitting with my grandparents, listening to songs, old tales, proverbs, eavesdropping on secrets, reading old family documents about the loss of ár ducthas, the years fighting everybody else's stupid wars. . I know of no other language with so many living metaphors, so many nuamced words denoting emotions. Japanese comes close. Gaelige fills my soul! Sin é mo sceal.
Is mise Wayne! Tame go maith!! I’m in Missouri. I gra Ireland, been 7x!!! I’m learning Gaeilge!!!
I’m in America learning Irish and I plan to pass it on when I’m older
I'm half Irish/English but identify as Irish. I have an English accent but I'm learning my other native language of Irish. It's wonderful to be able to reply to someone in Irish (Gaelige) "Is Éireannach mé, go raibh maith agat" when you get the odd comment of "you don't sound very Irish!"
Go Raibh maith agat
You're Irish don't let people say you're not
I wish the Irish government did more to promote free events for adult learners. Sports/classes/socials/dances etc all through beginner friendly Irish. As an adult learner it's so expensive doing classes. The pop-up Gaeltachts are also daunting because their is alot of fluent speakers.
Philo-celtic society is free online and you can always go to events at conradh na gaeilge
Learn Irish and pass it on to your children. Blessings and investing in your culture's future.
Her mentioning the Japanese reminded me of a fun fact. In the land of the rising sun the verb typically goes at the end of the sentence, while in the land of the setting sun the verb usually goes at the start of the sentence.
I didn't know that! That's awesome. If you like Japanese stories, you might like our conversation with Hector Garcia recently:
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what's also super interesting is that our ancient script ogham is written from the bottom right and up to the left which is also a mirror to traditional Japanese writing
German the chat entered has.
haha sehr nett.
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Good for you, Molly. Keep an endangered language alive. It's as important as saving endangered species. I'm Hungarian and we too need to keep our language. Altho I can't say it's in danger. Even under Russian occupation, Hungarian was our language. They didn't try to kill it.
The same thing is being done in Hawaii with the native Hawaiian language!
As a UK resident and Duolingo Irish student who has done approximately half their course, without ever having done any Irish at school or indeed ever, I am very interested in this question. It needs to be pointed out that foreign language learning is a training for the mind so, actually, Irish people are getting an advantage over most ordinary Brits. Certainly, Irish people are more confident in tackling other foreign languages whereas language learning seems to be dying out in the UK.. We already have been able to observe that bilinguals have more ability to add third and fourth languages quite easily. Recently I was fascinated to see that a recent asylum seeker Joseff Gnagbo, originally from Ivory Coast, has been teaching Welsh to refugees in Cardiff, Wales, UK. In 2023, just five years after arriving in Wales, he is Chairman of his local Cymdeithas yr Iaith near Cardiff. Perhaps Irish should be targeted at those who are already bilingual because they will then lead by example. I came across a Dutch cheese making merchant in county Galway some years ago whose children were attending school locally and outperforming everyone else in the Irish classes...
Being Dutch that gives me hope as I just started. ;-)
@@GuideauxPelagos Bismarck was right to say that the Dutch could absolutely transform Ireland, ha ha
@@GuideauxPelagosare you fluent yet!? 😉
@@languageoffootball I have been doing quite a number of languages on Duolingo, having to my delight discovered the free app does forty or more languages.... and it uses a scientific approach, or claims to, complete with Learning Scientists and AI... I decided I would test this claim by trying out Hebrew and Arabic to see if it could work magic on me... It apparently can and I am slowly progressing with those two as well as Irish and Welsh... I discovered that Hungarian needs to be studied by doing every single exercise on Duolingo including the optional ones... Never despise any practice exercise, even with the 69 units of Duolingo Welsh, quite the longest of their courses and certainly more than double the length of the Arabic Duolingo course....
@@languageoffootball babysteps..baby steps. It will take some time.
She is excellent. Mollie is an exceptional teacher. It’s a shame more Irish isn’t spoken as a first language in Ireland as well as in the Diaspora.
31:15 The way Swedish school boys in High School get good at English and French actually is throught this kind of discomfort.
A conversation in the target language is recorded.
The students are not given the text. They are given a word list of words they have not learned yet. They prepare by reading the word list and by being told what the subject matter is.
THEN they listen and THEN they have to write down as much as they can about the content, not word for word the text, but answer things like "what was the special ingredient in the plumb kougloff, that Aunt Baskia revealed" (we used this method again, when I was learning Polish).
I learned the basics of the irish language with Buntus Cainte, over 20 years ago. Since I don't live in Ireland and there was a lack of irish content online I put it on hold. I'm back at it again now though.
Tá Mollie go h-iontach. Effort Can’t be underestimated. I have put a lot of effort into learning Spanish and it has paid off, my trips to Spain have been transformed. Anois tá mé ag fholaimh an Gaeilge. Muchísimas gracias, go raibh maith agaibh
I grew up in Munster .. .My fathers family are from Northern Ireland and my mother from Kerry .. my grandparents were fluent and I was essentially brought up by my Grandmother...of course when we went to TRALEE al that stopped ... being such a former Norman Town etc. and I was actively made to be ASHAMED of it ..and often even trying to talk As Gaeilge I was told.. "to limit it to the appointed hours ..and sometimes less polite." with the result I put on the mantle .. of "its a language of shame" but I have lived in many EU countries I currently live in Berlin Germany and even though my relationship is over with my ex .. I have three boys here whom are bi lingual ... in German and English ..I sincerely wish but IM BLOCKED by ex teaching my kids Irish ..IM passionate to connect and GIVE them a gift .. the gift of Irish ..its ONE of the most ancient languages in Europe and one of the oldest written venacular .. in Europe ... its a GIFT ... I would encourage anyone to reconnect with it ... I have to say I personally hate the WAY all languages are taught pouring on the dative case noun past participle etc.. just TALK TALK TALK be corrected as in its better this way and KEEP going ... along with TPRS and then when fluent thinking feeling .. if Ireland encouraged this method just read write story etc. etc.. it would come back I personally hate the "Gaelgors" whom hop on a persons head .. .with every single mistake ... people make mistakes when learning for example Germans are very forgiving ... and dont hop on you when you say something wrong.. so you still gain ... Im speaking several languages ... by the way from my living in many EU countries Im seriously passionate about our language Im resisting swapping to Irish as I want to encourage any English or Irish descendant to embrace this gift
Purists would likely disagree with me, but as an American, I would argue that part of any _culture,_ particularly when interacting with _other cultures,_ includes the degree to which one incorporates aspects of the _other_ and modifies them to local functionality over time. Once a word becomes commonly used...with a distinctly _different_ meaning from its primary source...that _version_ of the word essentially becomes a part of the culture that adopts and modifies it. In that sense, "Craic," is part of the Irish Language Heritage.
31:18 - In 8th Grade English, we did a yearlong lesson called _Roots,_ in which we learned to break apart and put together English words by recognizing their Gr./Lat/Fr./etc. components.
P.S. I don't know why...as much as I know about historically forced assimilation...it never occurred to me that colonialism (English _and_ American) had been killing the Irish language, too.
What needs to happen is that irish needs to be made fun to learn. TV/movies/cartoons/videogames need to be translated and dubbed using native speakers with native sounds
What a great video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I read that in Quebec, Canada, French is integrated in every aspect of work/daily life. There are go also places that are French only. Here in Hawaii, the Hawaiian language or Olelo Hawai'i is starting to get integrated into work and life.
Shes Brilliant and so real. Her course is so incredibly well laid out. Great Stuff!!Go raibh maith agaibh!. and its kinda common to use "Airee" as "high" or "stoned, feeling good"
It's a very complex question. One can't just blame the government and the schools, it's a result of hundreds of years of colonization and having it beaten out of us. There is a lot of generational trauma, colonization forced English upon the Irish, the famine affected Irish speakers more than any other group. Irish was associated with poverty and in order to survive or get ahead, one needed English. As a nation, we still carry that trauma and until we get over that and appreciate the language as part of our identity and embrace it, all the signposts in the country will make no difference.
If everyone someday can read it and code switch I think that's a great goal to strive for to at least save the language part-way instead of completely.
Mollie is the Susie Dent of the Irish language....the modern Irish version....I know a couple in Kerry and Galway too
Me encanta esta vídeo, voy a aprender irlandés ☘️ 😊
Tha craic came to Ireland via the Scots. It's very common in the North East where it means news or conversation. It filtered into Scottish Gaelic from there and crossed over to Ulster.
After 100 years of independence non-Irishmen (like me) would think that Ireland would be thé expert on strengthening its native language (apart from Israel). But it is not. The Irish government doesn’t really promote the language, or at least not in the right way. It constantly makes unrealistic language plans which therefor fail or are carried out badly. So the idea of many Irish that reviving Irish is impossible, is ‘confirmed’ again and again in this way.
Irish speakers constantly have to fight to be treated equally, as if Britain were still ruling Ireland.
I read that 1 out of 4 Irish parents would send their children to a gaelscoil if there were enough of them. However this huge demand does not trigger the government to make a plan on how to found more gaelscoileannaí as soon as possible.
More gaelscoileanna are not the ultimate solution, but (former) pupils of gaelscoileannaí don’t have any complexes about Irish. So it would mean a great leap forwards for Irish, if one quarter of the Irish would have the attitude Mollie is promoting. If only one of both parents would talk Irish to their children regularly (not necessarly all the time), this would make a huge difference. To achieve this many future Irish parents should get their education through Irish. So why are there no government plans to achieve this?
Yes, we still denigrate Irish speakers and constantly put the Language down. The thing is, it's deeply, deeply ingrained in us ! You'll notice that most people respect people speaking Polish or Arabic or Romanian. But our true native language is looked down upon. If the Israeli's had that attitude, they wouldn't be speaking Hebrew today, but Yiddish or English..
The government have no love for ireland and the civil service do not love ireland ,I was on language course in donegal and met teachers there and they did not consider the language anything but a hobby ,when I suggested to one teacher that she could bring her baby up as a native speaker by speaking irish and no English she looked at me and but won't he get enough irish from the gaelscoil and you got to remember which is the most important language
@@kingofcelts We Hungarians keep our beautiful language, bc few Hungarians know other languages. Unfortunately. The silver lining in the cloud is that we won't lose our language. We love it and we have a very rich literature, esp. poetry with it.
This is a really interesting convo for someone with multiple ancestral languages including Irish and Basque. I know some Spanish but I only really know English which is a shame.
25:48 w a i t, that would make it a very recognisable cognate of German Krach, basically "noise" ...
"Was ist der Krach?" instead of "Was ist los?" would signal the question was provoked by a noisy disturbance.
Dad reading newspaper and five children just running to him and talking in each other's mouths ... he could say "was ist los?" but he could also say "was soll dieser Krach?"
What's the purpose of the ... craic.
June, July and August... haha... in Ireland my goal will be April, May, September, October. ;-)
What Mollie says about exams is soooo true: we are judged on what we did wrong at a certain test on a certain day at a certain time...it is insane... especially if one's goal is constant learning.
What a beautiful language...💚🤍🧡
Go raibh maith agat a chara .. :)
you should definitely study the case of Paraguay, Ireland could learn a few things from there.
¿Qué pasó allí?
The one thing in the effort to rescue endangered languages that I don't think we leverage enough is that our lingua franca, English, DOES provide a conduit to learning other languages. It has nothing to do with the qualities of English itself so much as that any lingua franca can simultaneously promote intermediary communication and thus a stepping stone, by reaching the greatest number of potential learners with the first presentation or publication directed toward speakers of that lingua franca. In other words, if everybody learns English, then all English-to-target language materials become useful to all those English speakers, whether English is a primary or secondary language. By default, the Internet tends toward English-second to facilitate X-English-target. Argh, I'm not saying this well, so I'll shut up on that count
I'm a Western-European-mutt-American. The most recent of my ancestors to immigrate was my great-great-grandfather, who came from Dublin. All the other immigrants I've found in my genealogy make me 11th generation, though at least two of them married women already here, so, maybe more. At least two other ancestors moved from Ireland, as well, the rest known from France, England, Wales, Scotland, German (Pennsylvania Dutch). I've always been fascinated by Gaeilge and tried to pick it up more than once, but it wasn't for the faint of heart without anyone to learn pronunciations and converse, plus the generally available self-teaching materials barely existed. Michael O'Siadhail's audio materials weren't the easiest recordings to understand, at least not on cassettes circa 1993. With the explosion of decent language programs and materials in and for the speakers of much smaller populations, learning is a whole other beast, now. As a language nerd with linguistics under his belt, I do gravitate toward a lot of technical stuff unnecessary to becoming a casual speaker of a language. I do love a complete grammar not even meant to be a teaching document. :) At least then I can decipher written materials, formal or informal.
Hello! So... Frst at All, Nice to meet you! Well, Let me tell you something about this Irish conversation! I'm a Polyglat
Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, English, Norsk, Sweedish, Finnish, Danish, Russian, Polish, German...
And Starting to learn "Scottish, Welsh & Irish" I Discovered, that "Scottish" has a formal structures "To teach it" 😊
But... "Welsh And Specially Irish Gaeilgi" Have a confused structure to "Teach it" Is there,
Possible to find a "Well Structure Irish Gaeilgi System"? I Found 2 or three
Channels in CZcams 😢😮
But, I didn't See... A normal structure to Following Lessons! Some Phrases Here,
Some other there... 😮 And no more!!! In Any language, We Starting with Greetings!!! 😮
Because, is the useful way to start Any conversation😅😊
Specially when We arrived by plane to the countries that We learned their languages😅😊
So, why don't you try, to "Structure Irish Gaeilgi Lessons" 😮😅 I've been talking with a "Cymraeg"(Welsh Teacher... About this problem
And he said... Is gonna be a real Challenge to you!!! 😢😮
And so... He was right!!! 😅😂
Irish Gaeilgi... Could be a Nightmare!!! 😅😂😊 Polish, Russian... Are more easy!!!
So... Guys, Maybe, this is the reason, why your Children don't want to learn it!!! Make it Easier!!! I wanna learn it😠😖
And believe me, I Will do it!!!
Not even "Your Scramble System" 😅😂😊 Oh Boy... 😮
What a way... To Stop The Irish Gaeilgi, Growing UP!!!! 😅😊😂
Ma... Che cosa sta succedendo? Di che stiamo parlando? io no capizco niente! Dov'e l'insegnante?
Est-ce que vous comprend ma Parole? Pourquoi Il est, Tres complique?... 😮 Pourquoi?
Tha pasta blasda! 😮 Tha Neil!
"Athbhliain Fuoi Mhaise Dhuit 2024" Slan... Folks!!! 😮😅😊
Ici la, du "Le Mexique" Aurevoir!
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Training children up in the culture, is how the language will be preserved - let's look at Acadian French as a prime example.
Ta roint Gaeilge agam! Agus taim broduil as mo Ghaeilge! Speaking of old traditions that were passed down I had no idea the Phase knock on wood which is something my mother says this and grandmother said this all the time and it comes from an old irish superstition about knocking on wood when you say something to wake the wood spirits which was thought to be a way of warding of a jinx. This may also have been used by other Celtic peoples
I don't know about your interpretation. It seems to be generally European.
Germans knock on wood to warn the Kobolds. It's the same tradition.
35:17 I kind of suppose he _might_ be a fan of Angelo Kelly and Family or of the original The Kelly Family a few decades earlier ....
I want to practice my gaeilge when at the shops purchasing goods but its not possible as I am not meeting irish people most of the time serving me in the store or even driving the taxis.
I know what you mean, I feel strange speaking an Gaeilge in public. The other week I was in a supermarket and the lady ahead of me said go raibh maith agat to the cashier and so I just went for it and used my cúpla focail and it felt good.
22:16 That's pretty much how I felt about Spanish when crossing the frontier Hendaye / Irún the evening of 15th August of 2004.
I was very interested in what she said about Irish people learning Swedish in a relatively short time and then suddenly wondering why they never mastered Irish, only then returning to tackle it afresh... Absolutely, this method works quite well where you are learning an easier language alongside a harder one so as to keep yourself encouraged enough to persevere. I started Hebrew on Duolingo because it was free and used Duolingo Irish as light relief. The Duolingo Hebrew course is not well put together whereas their Irish offering is much better devised. But I was able to persevere with both long enough to then tackle their Arabic offering.
That's a great point!
Molly!! ❤❤❤☘️☘️☘️ ... go raibh MILE maith agat 🤗 ...
The answer is obvious. The answer has always been obvious. Teach school in Irish, with English taught well as a language.
22:37 I mean, back at the boarding school, 83-86, I couldn't have stringed together a sentence in Spanish myself if my life had depended on it, and no one was shaming me for that while I learned a certain refrain:
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Tá saol na hÉireann tábhachtach
33:55 "a couple of words" -- the sub titles said "cupla focal", but I think it could be ..
cúpla fócail?
Or should genitive plural drop the slender and revert to broad?
One or two l?
cúpla fócail
cúpla fócaill
cúpla fócal
cúpla fócall
Btw, I suppose it could be an early loan from Latin "vocalis, vocalem" like the same era when "vinum" became "fíona"?
I thought now the idea was to replace the irish altogether native and english speakers alike
I have started to use a bit of Gaeilge in my emails and micro-interactions and it feels good
I think I'm still too traumatised by the memory of those hardback green and red Irish/English, English/Irish dictionaries we had back in the day to try Irish again!
Really? You let a few colours of books have that impact upon you?
Give it a go again. You’ll be delighted with yourself. Sláinte 😊
Mollie, why aren’t you an actress. (Sorry, I know it’s nothing to do with learning Gaelic!)
If you would like to Learn as much as you can about your families ancient culture, the best way I s to become a fluent speaker in ancestors mother tongue, before an English teacher s speaking culture forced us to not use it. And be acclimated in their culture through their difficult language called English.
Mollie you mentioned, 10 minutes and 56 seconds into this video, that English has usurped other native languages. Knowing this fact is it possible to encourage people to learn Irish, in such a way, that before we know it Irish is the #1 spoken language in the world?
SAVE IT OR LET HISTORY SWALLOW IT UP, ITS YOUR CHOICE WETHER YOUR ANCESTORS LIVE OR DIE IN THE OBLIVION OF THE PAST.
Never mind using the same old tropes time and time again get the kids to sing our national anthem in school first thing in the morning it will give them a love of the language Thier culture and who we are as a people did you ever see the way all the Welsh can sing Thier anthem unlike us you will get no where untill then
I’m finding out lots. I suck at at language studies. So what. Go raibthe maith agat. Ta me go go maith, ta me go hiontach ✌️😎
Help me achieve the knowledge of my ancestors. I’m a dumb American.
Irish should never be a subject to grade , it should be used as a living language in schools.
Areas should learn the dialect that is from their region, not Irish from a island of Munster .
Then we may have a foothold
How about revival of Hebrew in Israel as an example?
Zes. That's an incredible success story. I'm sorry about the disappearance of Yiddish, however.
You missed out the VERY obvious in US English into smithereens ... from the Irish Smitirini ...agh my keyboard is crap but it the Irish for into tiny little pieces ... and yeah I have spelt that wrong ... but do check
Did they talk about hebrew
You need to save your country first.
Another Liverpool expression - Wack. Presumably from a mhac ? Never heard it anywhere else in England.
I doubt you ever heard it in Liverpool, either. I haven't and was born there in the 50s.
Alot more people would sign up if it wasn't so costly.
There will be more speaking Albanian than Gaelige soon.
6.800. 000 Albanian speakers, the diaspora not included, more than the Irish population, and only 3% are regular users of Irish, 180.000 adults ! So you do not like them Albanians...🇦🇱
I do not think that Irish will ever be revived complitelly and become the main language of Ireland because Irish people do not want that. This way you can’t ever make people speak Irish at home. The entire education should be in Irish except for universities where it will be both Irish and English. If you do not make education in Irish mandatory for everyone in the country you can’t bring it back. Without radical decisions you will never succeed protecting it but the opposite even families speaking Irish natively for centuries begin speaking English at home. Irish people should stop lying to theirselves
How is it in Wales? I hear Welsh is the most alive of the Celtic languages.
The biggest problem is the death of authentic pronunciation. If you use an English r sound, you have failed. Mollie seems to try hard but I can tell she’s from Dublin when she speaks Irish.
There is an R sound in Irish
“Rinne mé é sin.” ….how do you pronounce that without an r sound ?
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I said there is no ‘English R sound’. There should be a broad R (like a tap) and a slender R which is very unique and varies in different dialects.
In the example you gave, the R in ‘rinne’ could be pronounced with a sort of whispered trill. The vowel in ‘mé’ and ‘é’ should be a monophthong, not an English ‘ay’ sound. The slender ‘s’ in ‘sin’ should be pronounced differently to the English ‘sh’ (I believe with lips more inward). Irish people forget that their English speech is mostly derived from English not Irish, and they should be learning a whole new phonology to speak Irish.
@@user-td4do3op2d You're the first person to say the fada doesn't create an "ay" sound with é. The only dialect that doesn't is ulster. Also every teacher I've had and I've had many, would pronounce words with an R sound exactly like English. It's not like a German R.
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I never said anything about a German R.
All fada sounds are monophthongs
The English R sound didn’t even exist in English until about 1500.
All languages will die. Telepathy is the future. 🤯
Molly says it's not as difficult as everyone thought, and there's truth in that, but Molly is no expert Irish speaker.
She doesn't have the basics of the pronunciation down, not even close, and the stuff I've seen written by her has been littered with grammar mistakes and Béarlachas, and yet, Anglophone ears probably prefer her anglicised inaccurate Irish to a completely Gaelic completely accurate native (Gaeltacht) speakers Irish.
Why is that?
I think there's still a lot of internalised colonial prejudices against anything rural and anything Gaelic, to the extent that only the most anglicised 'Irish' possible is palatable to the masses.
There's an obsession with things being 'modern'. Real Irish allegedly isn't 'modern' enough. English, is very cool and modern. So Irish is only palatable to Anglophone Irish when it shares the exact same phonetic structure as the English language.
Discuss.
I swear to god this is one of the truest things when it comes to Irish, ar chúis éigin nil na fuaimeanna cearta agéinne, nil siad ag múinteoirí ná ag daoine mar Molly a mhúineann Gaeilge ar line.
My Irish isn't perfect and I'm sure I've made a mistake or two in what I've just written but I find it so annoying that these people who claim to be Irish speakers and who even go so far as to sell courses either aren't aware of or just don't bother with proper Irish
this channel only interviewed her because she is cool and is an influencer not because she is some sort of great Irish poet or linguist. there are lots of grifters online who claim to be able to teach you x language only for you to realise that this or that person is not even close to fluent and only does this language thing because it makes him or her money
Go ahead… tear her down… and you’ll only be helping to kill Gaeilge!!!
She may not be perfect…. But keeping Irish alive will take all of us!!!
I’m American. I heard Dana sing in Irish and it made me want to learn. I’m doing my best- when I’m in Ireland and use Irish most truly appreciate the effort!!!! I donut to show love and respect- they don’t mind if I’m imperfect!!!! Pog ma hone!!! Not perfect but you understand!???
She is trying, perfection is the enemy of success
Clicked on video with Redheaf speaking Irish. Got bald guy in glasses speaking English. 2/10 would not repurchase.
Arabic will soon be the second language of Ireland.
إن شاء الله
The intro was misleading. The Irish didn’t “speak Irish until British rule”; successive waves of Vikings, Normans and British followed the Celtic invaders (who weren’t the first to the island either). Ireland didn’t “regain its independence” in 1916: for one thing, there had never been a united Ireland before British rule (romantic myths about “high kings” notwithstanding). Ireland had its own parliament from about 1300 till 1800, when it voted itself out of existence in favour of representation in the Westminster parliament. A little over a century later (1914), Westminster passed a home rule bill that would have established and Irish parliament for the whole of Ireland; implementation was delayed (as it was for other legislation) because of the outbreak of WW1 but some idiotic hotheads kicked off the Easter rebellion in 1916 instead. Thousands died in the ensuing wars and the upshot is that instead of the peaceful establishment of home rule we now have Northern Ireland part of the UK and racked with violence and the south as a vassal state of the EU.
There’s a lot of romantic tosh thrown about but those are the facts. Violence begets violence.
Full of west brits in political establishment parties across the board, media and civil service
"centered"??????????? its spelt centred. not off to a good start. also to frame "mollie of Instagram" fame as some sort of bulwark attempting to save Irish from extinction is a gross exaggeration. as if the state itself has not been doing anything to promote the use of Irish, as if Mollie is alone in the fight to preserve Irish. your title should read "Irish with Mollie's Effort to Promote/Spread the love for the Language". the implied subtext to your title is that without mollie Irish would be in greatER danger of extinction. or that mollie is needed to keep Irish from extinction. such grandiose claims are unwarranted and make this video nigh unwatchable. do better with your titles.
I admire your intentions and effort. But to preserve the Irish language (not the culpa focal which is a waste of time ) the way it is taught and subsequently supported by the board of education, civil service and political elite needs to change. These government bodies are responsible for the decline of the language. Irish has effectively become an elitist language, and even at that, is a sorry excuse for a language as it is merely effectively translated English.
You can be an agent of change, get out there a chara and use your cúpla focail. You be the positive change and not the Debbie Downer knocking the grá of others.
@@peteymax is sí an Ghaeilge mo theanga dhúchas ón gcliabhán. Tá srath fógraí ar an raidió faoi láthair ag úsáid an “cúpla focail” agus níl tuairim agam céard faoi iad. Is sé sin an puinte. Is mór an náire an fíoraíocht agus fuaimniú . Tá béarlachas gránna ar an gcluais agus ró deacair le tuiscint. B’fhearr líon bheith ag éisteacht le scread asal.
@@peteymax I think @COM70 makes some good points. It's really pointless calling people names like that for expressing an opinion.
Irish should be a free choice in schools and not compulsory. If kids chose it that's grand but children are spending valuable time they will never have again on something that will not get them a job. Its fine for the clever but the backward kids need to concentrate on reading and writing in English and simple maths without nationalist intolerance adding a burden. Even more fascist was the practice of failing a child in all subjects if they failed in Irish. The oppressed has turned into the oppressor.
And I live in another EU country and I can tell you being bi lingual ... is so good for the Brain I agree with the compulsory bit as its taught BORING BORING BORING ..no grammar no correction just read write talk repeat you make mistakes so what dont have some "Gaelgor" hopping on your head for example I made massive mistakes when aquiring German I livei in Berlin Germany by the way and I can tell you ... tolerance for mistakes is so important ..anyone hopping on your head will put you off period
That's a very materialistic viewpoint and one that could kill every minority language. There are other reasons for learning a language than getting a job. Anyway, there are lots of jobs for bilingual or multilingual pple, translator, interpreter, literary translator, teacher.
We have the rest of our lives to enjoy dipping into other languages. Thanks to the internet there are the materials for learning. Let the market decide what languages survive. There are over 8,000 of them which is ludicrous. The Irish only speak English in their daily lives so there is only teaching kids as an employment option in that country. I live in Co Cork between the ages of 9 to 15yrs@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
That’s a plan to kill our culture. Use, your cúpla focail.
Nonsense.
Far Right language
@@Medusas_BarberWhite Nationalists promoting their culture above others are the enemy of all. Your own prime minister said it. You don"t get away with this you racist Conor MacGregor types. You will not win.
Small brain ideal
*Packed Faced Lefty* Anti White Anti Male Anti Heterosexual Anti Straight Anti Christian Anti European Anti Western Anti Normal comment!
Better yet you small brained joke, what's a liberal language to you? Go ahead
¿What does that mean a chara?
Sinead O'Connor certainly embraced plenty NOT Irish, sadly. But interested in learning Gaeilge in an easier way! As for Cataluña, the seperatist institutions are hideously bigotted against Castillian Spanish speakers. Children are bullied out of Castillian in Catalunia and discouraged from learning Spanish- in Spain! Don't, don't, don't head that spiteful, agressive way, Irish. Be more creative. You will win no friends if you emulate the Catalunians- nor the Basques if the language is closely with terrorism.
This is bc Spain oppressed them for so long, esp. under the dictator Franco. Catalan and Basque were banned. It's a reaction, unfortunate, but a reaction. They want to keep their language. I support them in this.
Guau, your take is so negative and imperialist. Catalá, castellano, Gaeilge, todas de las lenguas son geniales 😊
Most Irish are Germanic anyway, so it's not their culture nor language. I get that Germanic people like to LARP and "go native", but it's clearly not their language and it's pointless keeping alive something that has no value. The people who inhabited Ireland before the Germanic invasion never contributed anything to the world, not scientifically, not culturally, nothing in tens of thousands of years so it's not really comparable to Latin or Anglisc. I mean perhaps as an artistic project, but don't go wasting resources on it.
Amadán
@hashnotall. Pog Mo Thoin
No where not germanic we have a big germanic admixture ,but we are still 70% native irish whatever that is.70% of the surnames are native irish and originate from the irish language and 30% of non gaelic origin mostly norman.Most of the normans assimilated into irish culture and spoke irish Irish monks preserved lost knowledge during the dark ages if it were not for irish monks all that the greeks and romans created would have been lost.
@@gallowglass2630 In Ireland. Greek and Latin were not saved by Irish monks in other countries. Hungary under a German king in the 19th century was forced to speak German, the official language was to be German. The native language was to be considered the language of peasants. What did HUngarians do? The educated ones all spoke Latin.
A multicultural Ireland will not help the language recover.
You can barely understand what they say when speaking English.
What do you mean? Is English your native or second language?
@@peteymax No, but I bet you struggle with it.
@@byteme9718 ¿With their super clear English or their Gaeilge?
@@peteymax It's easier to understand Malay than de avten unintelligible accent av de oirish
@@byteme9718 that’s true if you are Malay., But if you are European or North American an Irish accent is a very clear accent and has one of the broadest vocabulary in the English speaking world. You’ll notice that as your English improves
A language that needs saving is not worth saving.
What a sad take on art, culture, history, beauty a chara
@@peteymax Languages and cultures come and go. It's a sad fact of life. There have been hundreds in the past, and there will be many in the future if we don't screw everything up completely and disappear.
@@donepearce I get you, but the difference is that I’m from Ireland and I hold my culture dear to me. It’s different for you as an outsider with no emotional ties to the island of Ireland.
@@peteymax My native language is Faroese and there are currently about 48 thousand speakers. Fortunately it is not a dying language that needs support. It is a fully vibrant national language.
Wearing my English hat, my entire culture and language have been killed and replaced maybe eight times over a couple of millennia. That's just fine. It's what happens.
@@donepearce Thats great that Faroese is thriving as it should. Are you English? What’s your English hat?
Learn chinese first!
You can worry about irish when your old and retired and noone wants to talk to you!
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Chinese is far too difficult for all but language geeks. It will never be a lingua franca.
¿Qué triste estás? ¿Porque aprendamos cualquier lengua? Por el arte y más
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