I FINALLY Tried PinballFX! Is It Worth Switching From FX3?

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
  • Let's check out Pinball FX!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:06 Why I didn't buy it before?
    0:59 User Interface & Options
    1:34 Settings
    2:13 Online Store Tickets?
    3:28 Collectibles
    3:50 Unlocking Collectibles
    4:31 Games Available
    5:48 Game Modes
    6:19 Bride of Pinbot
    7:05 Dr. Dude
    8:15 Swords of Fury
    9:02 The Mandalorian
    10:55 Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 258

  • @PDubsArcadeLoft
    @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +8

    Have you guys tried Pinball FX on the EPIC Game Store Yet for PC? What did you think? What games did you like or not like? Let me know below!

    • @Scarletpanda17
      @Scarletpanda17 Před rokem

      I also held off a long time buying any tables. The stacked discounting helps the pricing. As of the last patch it works pretty great on its own. With cabinet mode I had a lot of problems with crashing and it not recognizing my atgames controls which then required me to use joytokey for the controls. I had some issues getting it to recognize all 3 monitors and at the right positioning as you have to go into a file and manually adjust the settings.

    • @Scarletpanda17
      @Scarletpanda17 Před rokem

      Oh, also, using Heroic games launcher, it runs pretty well on steam deck.

    • @Rage-td9wv
      @Rage-td9wv Před rokem

      Tickets are not a problem once you get use to them. It will probably provide cross platform access so you won't need to buy them 6 times over. Also, huge discounts can be had with bundling with the tickets.

    • @Rage-td9wv
      @Rage-td9wv Před rokem +2

      You should probably turn off the scoring so you don't have to see 600, 10,000 etc. pop up all over the place.

    • @Rage-td9wv
      @Rage-td9wv Před rokem

      On platforms it takes approval then permission, often 6 months in advance to put anything on sale through Sony, Nintendo, and X Box stores. The ticket system bypasses all that nonsense and as long as they are producing tables, one will always need more tickets.

  • @davidh4548
    @davidh4548 Před rokem +32

    Geeze, why mess with a good thing and over complicate the entire menu system. I really hate this change and am sticking with FX3 for as long as it's accessible. I don't need a lobby or care about the fluff. I prefer a simple interface like FX3 without all this crap.
    Thanks PDubs, great video!!

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Thank you my friend!

    • @paulallen3182
      @paulallen3182 Před rokem +9

      Agreed. Already put too much cash into fx3 to start all over, and I don't care about the lobby and collectable stuff.

    • @jmcminn1076
      @jmcminn1076 Před rokem +3

      This. I have virtual pinball cabinets. I don’t care about the lobby or all the other nonsense, I want it to play pinball and ONLY play pinball. I don’t care about all the other nonsense. to be blunt, fx3 also has too much nonsense.

    • @paulallen3182
      @paulallen3182 Před rokem +1

      @@jmcminn1076 True, but I already bought 100 tables with fx3 so I still play it. I don't plan to rebuy any tables ever. Also, all these people that are rebuying the tables for fx, in 5 years they may make you re-rebuy them yet again!

    • @MarsNova
      @MarsNova Před rokem +3

      My wife and I absolutely voted no on this upgrade. Legacy players like us were left in the dust. We still get a lot out of FX3, but it would’ve always been nice to have live multiplayer, to play with our friends. Repurchasing the whole catalog, though?-out of the question.

  • @Cameroo
    @Cameroo Před rokem +2

    Thanks for taking the time to preview this! I've been playing Pinball Arcade for ages and just bought a few packs for Pinball FX 3 and of course then heard that this was coming out soon. Haha. Well thats the way it is sometimes I only sank like 15 dollars into it. I hope we see more Williams/Bally tables. That's what really brought me too the dance in PBA. One question I had is can you set the 3D elements to off as default on the Williams tables? I appreciate that they are toggable but I'd just like to play Attack from Mars from the get go without having to deal with the 3D models. Also one complaint I had about FX3 was it dumping you out into a menu at the end of your session. I miss out on hearing the "Back again" messages from a lot of the tables.
    Anyhoo minor quibbles. Thanks again for the preview!

  • @simonridley898
    @simonridley898 Před rokem +7

    Zen could have made a first person arcade for all the tables you buy.I've been playing Arcade Paradise and this type of setting (not including the laundrormat) would be amazing,walking around your own expanding pinball arcade,stepping up to a complete machine with art and backglass etc...instead just another even less inspiring set of menus again,it's just not different enough for me to re-buy tables.

  • @8KilgoreTrout4
    @8KilgoreTrout4 Před rokem +3

    I wish you could reverse the nudging left to right on the analog stick. It seems to me in FX when you nudge it's relative to the ball instead of the table. If you nudge right, the ball should go left, and vice versa.

  • @King_Midas
    @King_Midas Před rokem +3

    When you were going through your settings, I saw HDR was off. if your pc and TV or monitor supports it I recommend turning it on. The contrast between darks and lights look fantastic with HDR. I set my HDR game brightness to 1200 and it looks great. I'm glad you finally checked it out man!

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Great tip thank you!

    • @AntiSocialHero
      @AntiSocialHero Před rokem +1

      PC HDR is still pretty spotty. I would personally recommend not setting brightness to any higher that 1000 nits. Anything higher could cause color blowout unless your monitor supports higher than 1000.

    • @AntiSocialHero
      @AntiSocialHero Před rokem

      PC HDR is still pretty spotty. I would personally recommend not setting brightness to any higher than 1000 nits. Anything higher could cause color blowout unless your monitor supports higher than 1000.

    • @omegamanxxx
      @omegamanxxx Před rokem

      HDR can be problematic with front-end like pinup popper. So, if you use cabinet mode with pinup popper I recommend keeping it off.

  • @darianstaruk237
    @darianstaruk237 Před rokem +2

    Zen has said the ticket system is part of setting up cross-platform purchases. It’s like V-Bucks in Fortnite. I will deal with the ticket system if it means I only have to purchase these tables 1 time and play them on everything.

  • @sampull8464
    @sampull8464 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Thanks for the info. I thought pinball fx 3 was newer, but thanks to this video now I know pinball fx is the newest one. Good looking out

  • @ZombiexNMx
    @ZombiexNMx Před rokem +17

    To everyone else, don't give in. They're trying to entice people by not releasing anymore on consoles, but don't do it... You're going to get sucked in and then have to buy all the same tables again because we all know it sucks seeing grayed out tables and or having to switch back and forth and we want it to just be all in one...
    Eventually they'll have to release this new version to consoles and they'll be available everywhere again. With how many people that have pretty much boycotted this new version, it's only a matter of time that they'll redo the purchase structure and let people bring their existing tables with how much back lash they have gotten...
    Once they see they're not making money like they used to is when they'll have to start listening to the fans & customers again...
    You see this all the time when companies don't have competition anymore. Now that Farsight is out of the digital Pinball market it's just Zen really. Zachariah Pinball is not even on their same level because they don't have the big licenses.
    So don't give in, keep resisting and don't give them anymore of your hard earned money...
    The other thing with this ticket bullshit is if they lose the license or it runs out, then they can take it out of your library or something like that since you didn't actually buy the table, you bought tickets that you redeemed for a table.
    So if the license for said table runs out or doesn't renew then you're SOL and they can just replace it with a generic table or maybe none at all. It might stay if you have it downloaded, but if you delete it or update to a new version that doesn't have it anymore, then you can't re-download it...
    Like now even with Farsight, if you bought the Williams tables before they lost the license, you can still re-download them even if you delete them or get a new console. I was able to re-download all of them from the ps4 to the PS5...
    It sucks, I used to support Zen as well. But what they're doing and started neglecting console customers and now doing the BS beta early release nonsense and not releasing it to everyone at the same time and being a complete final version without a bunch of bugs...
    They've gotten lazy and took their customers for granted because they're the only ones doing digital Pinball now... It's like a bunch of corporate people took over instead of people that actually cares...

  • @markmaisy4858
    @markmaisy4858 Před rokem +2

    Thanks great insight. This is crying out for a VR version with the collectables, like the Star Wars collection on Quest 2, you can decorate your room with trophies. I did contact Zen to ask if they were bringing more tables to VR but they said no? I have a cabinet with FX3 tables, but have to say playing FX2 and Star Wars on Quest 2 is a whole new level! Would recommend to try them. Does anyone know why they've gone with 'Epic' and left steam?

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      They never left Steam. VR news in 2024, supposedly, per Blahcade Podcast #269.

  • @troymcdonald
    @troymcdonald Před rokem

    Excited to see your video on cabinet support… 😊

  • @hollywoodpolo9872
    @hollywoodpolo9872 Před rokem +1

    Patrick I'm glad your loving it. I'm still waiting for the Steam release next year with all of the features unlocked. The exclusives tables are great thou.

  • @rxeman
    @rxeman Před rokem +3

    Dr dude is in Fx3 too. Cabinet mode does not run smoothly yet for alp

  • @TonySpontano
    @TonySpontano Před rokem

    What about rotate screen to play on monitor with pivot?

  • @scottboehmer1975
    @scottboehmer1975 Před rokem +1

    I need to check this out at some point, but need to look into it it has a table mode and the GPU requirements. I'd be running this on my Legends pinball which has a pretty modest GPU (Rx 6400) since honestly most of the tables you can get by with a fairly low power graphics card.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      No need to rush unless really want to play the new games. FX3 is fine. It took me many months to finally giving this a shot.

  • @ryan489
    @ryan489 Před rokem +5

    If they let you import the Fx3 tables you own that would be great. The Williams tables I own would be nice.

    • @JaymeSplendid
      @JaymeSplendid Před rokem

      No, they won't on PS5 anyway.

    • @ryan489
      @ryan489 Před rokem

      @@JaymeSplendid yeah I know that sucks

  • @Creativeminds5
    @Creativeminds5 Před 6 měsíci

    I hope you can help me here. Regarding pinball fx ... i have it working on my ALP....But i cant get the backglass image up on the back board... what is it that im doing wrong ?

  • @kdstyles1979
    @kdstyles1979 Před rokem

    Im new to virtual pinballing. just started building my own machine with an old Mi Box 4k i had just laying around. didnt want my first build to be high end and expensive. just a learning tool of my does and donts. i'll do a PC one next after i finish this one.

  • @petermacnab1871
    @petermacnab1871 Před rokem +2

    Let’s see some 80’s Bally tables like eight ball deluxe , playboy etc

  • @ravenspe
    @ravenspe Před rokem +1

    Great review 👍 Have you by chance tried playing this on a vertical monitor? If so does it go full screen to the play area and look pretty seamless? I'd be interested in seeing that.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +2

      Not yet but it's on the to do list

    • @TnsToad
      @TnsToad Před rokem +1

      Yes it does.. I play it on a portrait mode monitor and it's perfect.

  • @anonymoushuman8443
    @anonymoushuman8443 Před rokem +2

    So do you own the tables you buy and play them offline or will they take them away from you in 20 years when they shut down the store so they can make you purchase them again?

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      FX2 player here on Steam. Even after the store removal, I still have access to all my purchased tables.
      Offline mode works wonders right now on FX.

  • @alevcimen4891
    @alevcimen4891 Před rokem +1

    Just like you i have all of them on other platforms but just wondering can you play it on the ALP? Thanks Pdubs for testing the waters for us

  • @Nick-kw9oz
    @Nick-kw9oz Před rokem +24

    Are they going to make you buy all new tables or are they actually going to let you import tables. Sick and tired of paying these outrageous prices for tables over and over again which is why I try not to buy too many to begin with! I feel like they are missing out on a lot of money by being too greedy.

    • @shane757
      @shane757 Před rokem +1

      Have to buy again. They did have to completely recreate them in the newest unreal engine, I grabbed a couple for 4 bucks so be patient for sales

    • @billyj.causeyvideoguy7361
      @billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@shane757whats funny is thats not how game engines work… the same models and textures in the old engine can be imported into unreal. The only thing needing to be remade are animations and collision meshes.

    • @strongmokus
      @strongmokus Před 6 měsíci +2

      Funny how millions of people are buying FIFA every year without complaining. But spending a few bucks for several tables in a new game that will be good for 5+ years is too much.

    • @Nick-kw9oz
      @Nick-kw9oz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@strongmokus "spending a few bucks" its not a few bucks. As a matter of fact I am suggesting they make it a few bucks. Is your argument that ppl should buy the same game over and over again and be happy about it and not complain? Like thats your argument?

    • @strongmokus
      @strongmokus Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Nick-kw9oz with the winter sale on Steam, now you can "upgrade" the tables you already own really cheap. Just be sure you select the legacy bundle where you get additional 50% off from the already significant price cut (if you already own one of the DLCs). The tables or table packages will be just little bit over 1.50 euros.
      Otherwise, you better make peace with the fact that the new games will require to buy again the tables unless you are already satisfied with the older software. By far it is not as bad as with other yearly releases or same items resold with a new skin.

  • @blackrum4572
    @blackrum4572 Před rokem +1

    I'm just getting into the pinball but I really like the vr pinball any of you playing on that

  • @markysmith656
    @markysmith656 Před rokem +1

    I own the Universal tables on Pinball FX3. Do I need to buy them again for Pinball FX?

  • @watduhwat
    @watduhwat Před rokem +7

    I'm going to hold off until they release more new games. I'm still enjoying the tables on the FX3. Thanks for the great video PDubs. Which table on the Pinball FX do you play on the most?

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Actually I am digging the Grimm Fairy Tale Table

    • @arthurpindragonpinball
      @arthurpindragonpinball Před rokem

      @@PDubsArcadeLoft I find the graphics on that table make the game lag. Any suggestions on settings tweaks?

  • @brianguenther7580
    @brianguenther7580 Před rokem +1

    Do you get different screen size options like FX3?

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +2

      Yes you can fiddle with a lot of that under the main menu settings if I recall, might tinker with it when we see if we can get it running on other devices

  • @retrotechx2600
    @retrotechx2600 Před rokem +1

    I got it on the steam deck but how to I connect to online, useless without the free tables to play.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      PinballFX is not available on Steam. It's only on the Epic Game Store as of today. No clue how you got it on your Steam Deck unless you are playing through a Windows browser/Micro SD Card. Regardless, don't expect it to work. Recommend just waiting for Zen to release it officially on Steam.

  • @Jipjert
    @Jipjert Před rokem

    Will they relrelease the rest of the marvel tables, and Bethesda tables!?

  • @vinniecannotuna8617
    @vinniecannotuna8617 Před rokem +11

    I’m with you!! The ticketing system is annoying…but they are doing it in hopes that people spend more money. Since “tickets” don’t mean anything to people, it doesn’t sting as much when you purchase something. They purposely do not want to use a cash system because they don’t want you to truly know how much you are spending.

    • @Mysda_
      @Mysda_ Před rokem +2

      Well now thats gone. Everyone hates this kind of systems and never buy in the end. But yeah now I have tickets and they are absolutly useless because they are only used to buy a pass, and everyone also hates passes.

  • @justimagine2403
    @justimagine2403 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Does it do 4k sideways? I can't tell without buying a whole new rig. Maybe it is time to upgrade.

  • @andy5408
    @andy5408 Před rokem +1

    Are there any good controllers that simulate the pinball feel you would recommend?

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      I just play with a wired xbox360 gamepad on PC. I've never thought about it that much

    • @nekcutta7777
      @nekcutta7777 Před 5 měsíci

      Switchpin

  • @MBJ84
    @MBJ84 Před rokem +1

    Nice video. I may do the same (buy only the ones I don't already have on fx3).

  • @derekswitzer9624
    @derekswitzer9624 Před rokem +1

    SO I'm guessing that if we buy t he tables through Epic, and then Steam finally comes out with FX we would need to re-purchase them through Steam too? Cause Steam would be a lot easier since that is where a lot of my other games are ATM... Those new ones (FX only) look awesome though!

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      Most likely yes

    • @hipflipped
      @hipflipped Před rokem

      It's all in their FAQ. These newly remastered tables will not be given out for free to those who owned the older versions, steam or not.

    • @derekswitzer9624
      @derekswitzer9624 Před rokem +1

      @@hipflipped Oh, I was talking about if we buy the newly remastered ones through epic and then steam finally releases them through their platform if we have to buy them on Steam again if we already purchased the remastered ones through epic

  • @alho9231
    @alho9231 Před rokem +1

    Cheers for the vid PDubs 👍 Would be interested in a vid covering cabinet support. Personally, I'm currently not interested in Pinball FX as I'm not fussed about their Zen originals and so far the Bally/Williams tables are nothing to write home about. Also, can't be bothered with Epic so I'll wait till it comes to Steam.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +3

      Thanks Al! Yes haven't made it to looking at cabinet support yet but I'll check it out and see if it's good or worth doing a video etc

  • @sightingson18wheels
    @sightingson18wheels Před rokem +1

    Thanks PDubs!

  • @hectoraleman
    @hectoraleman Před rokem

    Waiting for the console release of PBFX. I have a vpin running off of a switch. Already FX3 on it.

  • @wiiliamwilson5391
    @wiiliamwilson5391 Před rokem +1

    can you play this on legends pinball just like fx3?

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Yes but I would wait for them to release it on steam

  • @pixel-ink
    @pixel-ink Před 6 měsíci +1

    What about the million dollar question?
    Can you unlock new tables through progression without having to buy anything?

  • @the_bogeyman.
    @the_bogeyman. Před 2 měsíci

    I have all the Williams tables on FX3, I play only them (PC and Steam deck), single player arcade mode and no special effect. I played most of them at the arcades in the 90s, it’s mostly nostalgia.
    Should I even consider to get the same tables on the newest FX version?
    I’ve been living under a rock and just found out about it, and I don’t understeand if FX3 is going to disappear or what?

    • @sungleong
      @sungleong Před 17 dny

      You can just download the game for free and try it out. Each week, there are some free tables on rotation. But the new physics in fx is very different, it makes the game much harder, you can try and see if you can get used to it. All new tables from now on will only be released on fx. Fx3 is not going to disappear, for now. You can keep playing fx3 if you don't like fx.

    • @the_bogeyman.
      @the_bogeyman. Před 17 dny

      @@sungleongI got all the fx williams tables with the latest steam sale + extra doscount because I already had the fx3 version. I didn’t try all of them yet, but I think that fx3 is somehow more responsive, it seems to me that the latest fx have some input lag much higher than fx3, or is it just me?

  • @jodyjohnson265
    @jodyjohnson265 Před rokem

    I just bought all of the Williams tables in fx3 I might just buy the new ones coming to fix and I can't wait to get pinball fx tomorrow on February 16 witch is launch day for Xbox one series x PS4 and 5 zen studios sed that it's coming to the switch later this year after February of 2023

  • @Rushlarz2112
    @Rushlarz2112 Před rokem +1

    Does anyone have an easy way to get these running on a ALP...do steam decks work for OTG...I am not that smart on doing a computer route so just trying to find what's easiest to get these going on an ALP

    • @ChrisNxNW
      @ChrisNxNW Před rokem +2

      Wagner’s Tech Talk on CZcams and his website is imo the best at explaining step by step how to get it going on the ALP.
      I’m DEFINITELY NOT computer savvy and it does takes patience, but he’s the guy I recommend. Even gives you the computer specs you’d need.

    • @gusbranchesi5810
      @gusbranchesi5810 Před rokem +1

      As someone who tried getting it to run on the ALP, I'll tell you there is a bug right now that causes problems when rotating the display to play in Windows and getting a black screen. Hopefully fixed in next FX patch.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Great Info guys thanks for helping each other out

    • @-haso
      @-haso Před rokem

      It’s pretty easy. You have to rotate your computer screen 90 degrees then plug in the HDMI and usb to the ALU. Use Joytokey to do a simple remap of some the controls. Then start OTG on the ALU. Controlling the Pinball FX’s UI from the ALU can be spotty, so I use my mouse to do it. Other than that, that’s it. I do feel there is some slight lag while playing but maybe it’s just me. I feel like Zaccaria plays better. Hope this helps.

  • @rushmore3927
    @rushmore3927 Před rokem +1

    When is this heading to Steam?

  • @Jipjert
    @Jipjert Před rokem

    I can't transfer my old tables over?

    • @Mysda_
      @Mysda_ Před rokem

      Nop, you have to buy them (again yes)

    • @Jipjert
      @Jipjert Před rokem +1

      @@Mysda_ Thats extremely poopy

  • @luguibr
    @luguibr Před rokem +1

    I'm loving pinball FX. Using pinball pass meanwhile. I will continue to use fx3 for nintendo switch until they do vertical mode on xbox.

  • @1teamski
    @1teamski Před rokem +6

    I left well enough alone. I have Pinball Arcade and FX3 on my virtual table. I tried FX and it really sucked. The frame rate was horrible and the game obviously was not ready for release. Add that the UI really was bad (why not keep what works???) So, this is an easy pass.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Interesting. On my PC I didn't see any issues with frame rate playing these games over the last week, maybe there have been updates? IDK I just started looking at it cause I wanted to try some of these new games I can't play on FX3

    • @1teamski
      @1teamski Před rokem +1

      @@PDubsArcadeLoft Might have to do with the cabinet support.

    • @hipflipped
      @hipflipped Před rokem

      @@PDubsArcadeLoft Frame rate 100% fine here, even with raytracing enabled.

  • @Fabrysiheder
    @Fabrysiheder Před rokem +2

    My biggest issue with Pinball FX currently are the following
    1. performance issues- I know my rig isnt exactly a beast but there is no excuse for the game to run this badly as it currently does for me (constant stutters and framerate drops)
    2. Ticket system- I want to be able to buy my tables at dollar/euro price, not with this obfuscated stupid nonsense
    I like the room and the whole unlock stuff, it feels pretty enticing, especially with the additional gameplay modes and possibilties such as Pinball Royale coming up, I just wish it wasnt wrapped around this, ugh...nonsensical business mode and performance problems and all that.
    Until this happens, Im just gonna work on completing my Pinball FX3 collection (I have 87 tables out of 100 bought so far) and play that game, Im in no rush.

  • @justimagine2403
    @justimagine2403 Před rokem +2

    Hmmm. Super bummed as I have PFX3 tables, purchased, for my cabinet machine. Not cheap in any way. Not too excited to have to rebuy everything.

  • @8-bitninja122
    @8-bitninja122 Před rokem +1

    Is there a console release date yet?

  • @charleychuck
    @charleychuck Před rokem +1

    I held off buying as well. No big rush for me. I’ll consider buying a few of the new ones when they get back on Steam ( pretty sure it’s a 1 year exclusive with Epic) no interest in doing that ticket crap.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      Yeah the ticket stuff is weird IMO

    • @hipflipped
      @hipflipped Před rokem +1

      It's going to be tickets on steam too. Just sayin'....

  • @schizowallflower
    @schizowallflower Před rokem

    Personally, I'm still on Zen Pinball 2. I play on PlayStation and I think it looks, feels and functions fine for my usage. I am only casually into pinball, so I don't need anything fancy or flashy. Plus, I was gifted 3 Marvel and 3 Star Wars tables from PlayStation Plus back on PS3 and they've transferred over to all the games except the most recent. It's worked for me all this time so I see no reason to switch as long as it still lets me play.

  • @zype2
    @zype2 Před rokem

    I will purchase the Bally and Williams tables again. In my opinion, I don't like how close the flippers are on the Zen tables. I think it feels more authentic compared to FX3

  • @alisonbleiweiss1854
    @alisonbleiweiss1854 Před 10 měsíci

    How do I get tickets?

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      You really don't want to bring tickets back, honestly.

  • @japantour9136
    @japantour9136 Před rokem +1

    Hello! NICE channel. I'm your fan +👍🔔

  • @shanesuper1758
    @shanesuper1758 Před rokem

    Is the rewind button or feature still there? I live rewinding a lost ball

  • @JS_2099
    @JS_2099 Před rokem

    Is it possible to play this on the Legends Pinball? I can’t go back to playing virtual pinball with a keyboard or GamePad after setting up my ALP with a PC.

  • @-haso
    @-haso Před rokem +11

    In case people didn’t know, Zen went with the ticket system to offload the actual purchasing of tables from the platform holder. This will allow for a cross platform table library. Sorry pdubs, I know how much you love buying the same table 4 times😂.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Ahhhhhhh thanks for the info Haso

    • @Skellotronix
      @Skellotronix Před rokem

      That has just been retconned and we are now back to table packs. There are pinball coins for pinball pass whatever those may be but this is not good news IMO.

    • @-haso
      @-haso Před rokem +1

      @@Skellotronix Such a bummer. We were almost in the future, but got pulled back to the past.

    • @juandelossantos1866
      @juandelossantos1866 Před rokem +1

      @@-haso I agree. I’m pretty sad about the ticket system leaving. Not only would we have had cross platform purchases we would have had tables at a discount and had them drop more frequently since they can bypass the eshops and drop tables directly to the game. So what if we have left over tickets…Save them for the next table.

    • @Shrukin9000
      @Shrukin9000 Před rokem

      @@juandelossantos1866 that really sucks to mainly because it was taken after everyone was complaining.

  • @bluetarantulaproductions6179

    Like to see Pinball FX come to Nintendo Switch and other systems (modern and older).

    • @Bajso84
      @Bajso84 Před rokem

      Its on Switch now, but doesnt look as good as PFX3, and use different physics compared with other platforms.

  • @braich1984
    @braich1984 Před 3 dny

    I thought FX3 was newer...I got the FX version on steam later on mainly for the Addams Family game which was not available on FX3...i bought the dlc for addams family and some other table via steam instead of the tickets actually

  • @bruhmem7123
    @bruhmem7123 Před 5 měsíci +1

    31 bucks for marvel pinball is absolute criminal

  • @armcyn5
    @armcyn5 Před rokem +1

    What about cabinet mode?

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      Didn't test it, heard through other people on this comment thread there are issues with it

    • @-haso
      @-haso Před rokem +2

      It works ok. Can be glitchy on some tables. Features are barebones. You also have to run your computer in vertical mode which is annoying. Updates are coming, but progress with everything Pinball FX has been slow.

  • @EdwinVeenboer
    @EdwinVeenboer Před rokem +1

    I never realized FX was a newer version. I thought it was the first one.. why didn't they call it FX4?

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      A lot of movies have dropped the number on sequels, makes the series not sound older etc is my guess

    • @EdwinVeenboer
      @EdwinVeenboer Před rokem +1

      @@PDubsArcadeLoft well it should be illegal because I just spent hundred euro on fx3 tables for my virtual machine..🤣

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      @@EdwinVeenboer lol

  • @AntiSocialHero
    @AntiSocialHero Před rokem +3

    I bought all of FX3 two times over , not to mention FX, FX2, Zen Pinball, and Williams Pinball on iOS. I have given Zen enough of my money, patiently waiting on Steam release. Hopefully cab mode will be fully baked by then.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      That's why I held off and only bought a few tables

    • @killemallagain999
      @killemallagain999 Před rokem

      While I don’t love ticket system. It does mean your purchases will be tied to your account and not the system/platform. So when it eventually releases on steam and Xbox, all of your tables and tickets will be immediately available. So the plus is you won’t have to repurchase tables per system you play FX on.

  • @ls-prez6125
    @ls-prez6125 Před rokem +1

    I can't wait try this on the steam deck. 😉

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +2

      That steam deck is naughty fun

    • @j1000a
      @j1000a Před rokem

      Let me know if you figure out a way. FX 2022 is not available on Steam, and I was unable to get it going via workarounds.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      @@j1000a well they are making some big announcements this week so let's see what they say

    • @retrotechx2600
      @retrotechx2600 Před rokem

      I got it working, but it doesnt connect to online.... not sure what I am doing wrong...

  • @Jipjert
    @Jipjert Před rokem

    I hope they come out with a Shrek table for DreamWorks, and more nickelodeon tables

  • @mikerochburns4104
    @mikerochburns4104 Před měsícem +1

    Getting rid of tickets will break the psychological manipulation of always having tickets left over after a purchase, luring you in to the sunk cost fallacy money pit.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před měsícem

      I think they got rid of that ticket stuff since this video was made eons ago

  • @nickdoran3494
    @nickdoran3494 Před rokem +1

    It's not ready yet . It's still early access ..

  • @pacolitofurioso
    @pacolitofurioso Před rokem +1

    No more ticket system on consoles, but the physics is kind of slow and the flipper do not respond in the right time. I think in FX3 the ball moves more realistic than FX.
    Well this is my personal opinion and I expect an update to correct these failures

  • @markt1593
    @markt1593 Před rokem +2

    I’m a bit disappointed. I have an ALP so caps at 1080p and running a 3060. It doesn’t look as clean and sharp as fx3 does. I seem to recall them saying that you wouldn’t need too beefy a pc to run it. Then they recommended at least a 2070. It doesn’t even look great on a 3060. Maybe I just haven’t spent enough time on the settings but my vpx version of bride of pinbot running basically max settings on the card at 60fps certainly plays better and still looks damn good.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      Yep yep agreed on all if you are trying cabinet mode they need to fix many things

    • @hipflipped
      @hipflipped Před rokem

      Looks great on my 3060ti.

    • @markt1593
      @markt1593 Před rokem

      @@hipflipped hmmmm…are you running 4k?

  • @cliffedward
    @cliffedward Před rokem

    Ball seems a little sluggish. Otherwise not bad.

  • @WizardBalls29
    @WizardBalls29 Před 10 měsíci

    am i the only one who thinks that the ball seems speed up on FX ? i play Space Station and Funhouse on FX3 over FX because the ball seems more realistic feeling and easier to control . it really seems like the ball is going a hair faster and bounces are just hyper and its harder to get a handle on. im on PC

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      FX3's last releases feel kind of awkward, going back. I think FX is the more realistic ball.

  • @VintageGangstaK
    @VintageGangstaK Před rokem

    I Have This Version 👌

  • @mcrecordings
    @mcrecordings Před rokem +2

    I bought a couple of the new tables and have played a few others (with their daily rotation), and have felt no urge to go back and play them. The UI is also pretty horrid to navigate from the ALP.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      Thanks for the info

    • @hipflipped
      @hipflipped Před rokem

      I think the UI is pretty good now, much improved from initial version.

    • @mcrecordings
      @mcrecordings Před rokem

      @@hipflipped FX3 was so slick and intuitive, Pinball FX feels like AtGames designed it :D

  • @torcherglass
    @torcherglass Před rokem +1

    I have EVERY table ever made between Xbox and Psn. I hate the tickets. I would have bought a few today but I’m left with too little tickets to use or I was literally 3 tickets over what I want. I’m not gonna be paying into PBFX unless they change the ticket system. Sorry I love PB and HATE this

  • @hipflipped
    @hipflipped Před rokem +1

    The ticket system isn't going away.

  • @neekzz
    @neekzz Před rokem

    VPX is free though. Did you run the baller installer on that PC?

  • @sidnomani728
    @sidnomani728 Před rokem

    Why does it look like it's running sluggish

  • @GisherJohn24
    @GisherJohn24 Před rokem +1

    Can we import from fx3?

  • @Melodie_Info3
    @Melodie_Info3 Před rokem +1

    COuld my laptop run this?
    Ryzen 9 6900hx
    16gb ram ddr 5 4800 mhz
    240hz
    1tb ssd
    rTx 3080

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      Use this www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/pinball-fx-2022/21645

    • @Melodie_Info3
      @Melodie_Info3 Před rokem

      So i tested 144hz giving me the limit of 144fps.
      Its just to smooth so smooth no lag that I can't play good at it meaning its good cause I chose the right laptop.
      Sometime I die easily cause the gameplay is smoother then then ps3 ps4 and 3DS version.

  • @unityacc3731
    @unityacc3731 Před rokem +1

    still 34 GIGABYTES IS WAYY TOO MUCH FOR A PINBALL GAME

  • @RobinPM100
    @RobinPM100 Před rokem

    Dr.Dude table is featured in Pinball FX3 too

  • @bigbow62
    @bigbow62 Před rokem +2

    I only want it if they have classic pinball mode.....
    Yes... no silly power- ups !
    I'm looking for older tables this time ( pre-1980 )
    ....or I'll buy Pinball Arcade tables
    ....even Zaccauria has cool older looking tables
    No more table packs with one or two good tables and two rotten tables....
    If you want one table you should be able to buy just one !
    & if I already have a table on FX3... I'm not buying it again
    How bout some new tables instead of the same ones over and over again !

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      They do have classic pinball mode

    • @turrican4d599
      @turrican4d599 Před rokem

      @@PDubsArcadeLoft Without those ugly trails?

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      @@turrican4d599 You can disable ball trails in the gameplay settings.

  • @davidpole23
    @davidpole23 Před rokem

    bought indiana jones & adams family yesterday 25€. who cares i love these pinballs

  • @jmcminn1076
    @jmcminn1076 Před rokem +1

    1) the lame tickets/pinball pass model
    2) the fact that they did nothing to help people who spent hundreds of dollars on tables for fx3 to migrate
    3) that I am running with beelink ser PCs in my two pinball cabs and the Vega 10 on my table top is kinda low end for fx3 let alone the new version. I suspect the radeon 650 on the 6800h for my larger cab would manage it tho.
    4) this is only on epic games instead of steam, which would force me to make yet another account.
    So pretty much I’m mostly planning to just stay with fx3. It’s sad, because I really like the zen tables. If they even had a discounted “upgrade kit” for fx3 users to get the remastered tables they owned from fx3 I might be tempted to try it (tho the ticket system instead of just cash is obnoxious, so maybe not even then).

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci +1

      1) Gone / completely optional.
      2) Steam now has Legacy Bundles, and Zen does their best to get discounts in.
      3) Agreed, the new FX is kind of heavy, but the GTX 970 does well.
      4) Not anymore!

    • @jmcminn1076
      @jmcminn1076 Před 6 měsíci

      @@pinballwiz45b yup. I am glad that they finally resolved my issues. I picked up FX about the time they did the legacy bundles for upgrading. And while I have to tone down the options, the game is playable on a ryzen with a Radeon 680m.

  • @Bo_Knows_Tecmo
    @Bo_Knows_Tecmo Před rokem +1

    Bo loves pinball. Just not as much as Tecmo Super Bowl.

  • @turrican4d599
    @turrican4d599 Před rokem +1

    What about those awful dumb trails behind the ball???!!

  • @Pitbull0669
    @Pitbull0669 Před rokem +3

    Love it BUT hate the ball trails

  • @just_ppe
    @just_ppe Před rokem +3

    Looks really choppy, like 30-ish fps...

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem +1

      It's not it's running at 60FPS. If it looks funky probably cause the video editing software rendered the recording at 30fps

    • @just_ppe
      @just_ppe Před rokem +2

      I've recently played fx3, new fx and zaccaria on my son's 144Hz gaming monitor...that's such a huge difference in a ball movement fluidity that I can't return now even to 60fps :-)

    • @King_Midas
      @King_Midas Před rokem +2

      I love Pinball FX. The lighting looks great.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      @@just_ppe nice man, enjoy!

    • @mcrecordings
      @mcrecordings Před rokem

      @@just_ppe I was playing pinball on a 1440p/144hz monitor and then got an ALP, dunno if it's the novelty of having a vpin but I've been ok with the downgrade personally.

  • @Kennebec27
    @Kennebec27 Před rokem +1

    Dr. Dude is on fx3
    just sayin

  • @Sabre_Wulf1
    @Sabre_Wulf1 Před 6 měsíci

    Long time pfx fan, purchased all tables on ps3, ps4, switch etc. I personally do not believe the tables were 'really' remastered.
    I think the 'remaster' means they wanted to port all tables to unreal engine, and wanted us, the loyal fans to fund the time it takes to port them. Had they given me my purchased tables, i would have carried on purchasing new tables.
    As it stands, they want me to pay for all my tables..again. no! not again. Because if any returning fan pays up price, then a new fx will come along and we would have to purchase them all again.
    The business model here is so bad. They wanted to move to a new engine...and get the loyal fanbase to fund it. Not happening with me. I got all 100 tables in fx3 and sticking to that. They are all in one place.
    All they had to do, was look after their fanbase. Greed, pure greed. And if disney, williams, bally, gearbox etc want hefty profit cuts in licencing, then they are to blame also. Even sony allowed ps4 games to run on ps5, and they are one of the most anti consumer companies in the world.

  • @Guy-mx4fb
    @Guy-mx4fb Před 8 měsíci +1

    They removed South Park to only make it available to FX

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před 8 měsíci

      Woah

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      Here's the thing: Licensing is a factor. They couldn't even bring it back on mobile, even though they released the tables from FX3 on there.
      You want to know why they couldn't bring South Park back? They needed to get a new licensing agreement, so more money for third parties involved. Unfortunately, it's likely that Ubisoft got in the way throughout FX3's life that they couldn't bring it back.

  • @matthewhaverly3108
    @matthewhaverly3108 Před rokem

    No 3dtv support... again... I'll stick with PS3 Zen pinball 2 as once you've experienced these tables in 3D there's no going back.... it looks real on 3dtv in PS3

  • @flpennstater305
    @flpennstater305 Před rokem +1

    No cabinet mode no buy

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      I didn't even try it, does it not work?

    • @rxeman
      @rxeman Před rokem

      @@PDubsArcadeLoft it’s not ready for prime time

    • @-haso
      @-haso Před rokem

      It has cabinet mode. Just more of a beta right now, but it does work.

  • @tYNS
    @tYNS Před rokem +2

    ugh.. what a pile of crap. I am not rebuying again... I got skunked on pinball arcade .. I have all the tables .. but they don't do anything with it anymore.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před rokem

      Yeah I wouldn't buy any remastered games I don't care if they've been remastered just the new games

  • @Ibzen
    @Ibzen Před rokem +1

    seems like that tables are much harder to play on fx than they are on fx3.
    For sure thats the case on Attack from Mars.
    I prefer fx3.

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      FX3's Williams model, pre-Volume 4, is very unrefined. Attack From Mars on FX is more in line with performing flipper tricks and feels much better.

  • @bigpileofpuke
    @bigpileofpuke Před 10 měsíci +6

    If there's ever a game someone should feel guilt free about pirating, Pinball FX is it. Absolutely shameful how they're conducting their business. I'm glad I still have Pinball Arcade and their Williams collections.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před 10 měsíci

      I've never pirated any pinball anything lol. Wish I had the originally pinball arcade version of some of those Williams tables

    • @bigpileofpuke
      @bigpileofpuke Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@PDubsArcadeLoft I'm not accusing you, just speaking in general that a game like this should be pirated. I bought a good amount of Williams tables on FX3 last year and was dumbfounded to learn their was a new FX game this year and that you had to rebuy the tables again. I hope these developers do a nose dive into bankruptcy.

    • @PDubsArcadeLoft
      @PDubsArcadeLoft  Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@bigpileofpuke yep that is the biggest gripe myself and others have so I refuse to buy tables I own on FX3 and just buy the new tables. Totally understand what you are saying.

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 6 měsíci

      @@bigpileofpuke If you have Steam, get the Legacy Bundles. 84% off.

    • @pinballpuppy
      @pinballpuppy Před 15 dny

      IF BUYING ISN'T OWNING
      PIRACY ISN'T STEALING

  • @Lemmegooglethat..
    @Lemmegooglethat.. Před rokem

    Wow! Just tried it on steam, this game doesn't even have the rewind powerup from fx3, what else is bad. This new game already has inconsistent flipper latency imo

  • @b1orogue
    @b1orogue Před rokem +2

    I think I'm done with Zen. Geez, I've bought the game on several platforms over the years. Zen Pinball, then FX2 and 3 and a tons of tables. No, I'm done. I'll pass on this and if I need to scratch a Pinball itch, will launch FX3.

  • @deanho100
    @deanho100 Před rokem

    Great review👍🏻let’s be honest tho it’s a fucking rip off we have all brought these tables just too start over again so we can put a helmet on a shelf

  • @snowblindu
    @snowblindu Před rokem +1

    I don't like it... they took away the hot chick and the experience system. Everything looks boring compared to fx3 system. Now it's just like pinball arcade... what was cool is they differentiated themselves from that now it's just plain old ass pinball.