I know you from the top of all the leaderboards. 😅 It's of no wonder why you are there too. These techniques are superb and you have mastered them. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the compliments. Spent many hours over many years playing real pinball and almost everything I learned there translates to fx nicely, which I think is testament to how well Zen have reproduced some of these tables as well as the physics they play with. Thats what keeps me coming back to this game. That and the leaderboard scores I am yet to conquer ;-)
Good to hear. I'm half-way done recording footage for a similar themed video focused on multiball, but I broke my right flipper finger last week so I'm off duty for a few weeks :-(
I knew about 30-40% of this stuff, there others make me feel like a real amateur. My dad was a nudge master and people would always make jokes till his high score always was double to triple the second place score. Thanks for the vid, im going to have to watch multiple times to "relearn" some stuff :)
Thanks for the comment and glad you found this helpful. And yep, when you reach a point where your dad has done it becomes possible to start racking up scores other players can't conceive of (until they are shown the way), which I think is why so many are quick to accuse top level players of cheating. I actually left a few tricks out of this clip (mainly related to surviving multiball) because I felt they required explanation instead of just a video example. I'll get around to posting that one soon
Thanks mate. That's years of experience honed on real machines manifest on a simulation. I think it speaks pretty highly of Zen's accomplishments in recreating these as faithfully as they have
Thanks for the compliment. There's probably other phrases for some of those moves, I'm not 100% on the vernacular of it all, but that's what me and my pinball buddies called it :-)
Thanks. That's years and years of pinball experience and ingrained muscle memory translated to digital pinball. Its a testament to how well Zen have created a simulation that mimics the real thing. Pretty much every technique shown works much the same way on a real machine, with a similar degree of difficulty (except for the nudge pass, which is infinitely easier with digital pinball).
Thanks for the video! I've been struggling trying to pull these real life techniques in the game. I kept seeing your scores and trying to aim higher and higher, I can just barely squeeze into the top 100 on Hurricane and Fun House and lower 100s on other Williams tables. I don't know how the hell you got so high on CFTBL best I can do is hit move your car over and over.
You're welcome. The main secret to scores like that in CFTBL is to multiply jackpot scores during multiball with the left ramp before trying to score any jackpots. Catch one ball with the left flipper and use the right to keep hitting that ramp until 4x is up, then start hitting jackpots. I do much better in this game if I play slow and methodically, more so than just about any other
Really nice technique! I knew some of these but others I didn't. I'll have to practice some of them and hope I can break my last big high score for TNG. I peaked and can't seem to crack it again :(
Thanks for the comments. STNG is a tough nut to crack, struggling to crack my own PB as well. One of the hardest pinnies ever made, which makes it my favourite. This might help give you a few ideas: czcams.com/video/aTl-4w5g4_U/video.html
@@scootinlootinnshootin683 Thanks for the response man. Since I left this comment I finally beat my old high score but only by a 100 million or so; I didn't even move up the list lmao if you scroll down from your #1 spot you'll see me sitting at #25 😆 I'm trying though. I came real close to getting my second Final Frontier!
Avoiding left flipper to center targets would have been my first bit of advice to. Aside from that, one tip I would share is to send the ball into the jets as often as possible during multiball. Balls will get held up in the jets and the longer the better, leaving the rest of the playfield clearer to make shots.
That's "The Power" magnet in Adams Family, which makes the ball very tricky to predict and handle during multiball and Seance modes. Its the very worst part of that game.
@2:07 Wow, pretty neat. Thanks for this. Are you using a keyboard, or controller? I using an Xbox controller, and I'm finding I can't pull off nuanced cannonball-style shots with the triggers. There's just too much travel.
I'm not using a keyboard or standard controller. I have decades of experience playing real tables so I had to replicate the feeling of playing an actual machine as closely as I could, without going to the hassle of building a cabinet. So I reluctantly bought an X-Arcade Tank Stick and was very relieved once I plugged it in and instantly found it superior to keyboard or x-box controller. It does feel much more like Pinball, especially if I play standing up. I'm kind of amazed these things don't get more attention in the Pinball sim community. They're not perfect (I'm tempted to swap out the flipper switches for real ones) but they are way better than a keyboard. shop.xgaming.com/products/x-arcade-tankstick-trackball-usb-included I have modified it quite a bit, sawing off the edges to give it a squarer shape at the sides, repositioned a switch for quicker access to a fwd nudge. I've also added extension levers for the secondary flipper buttons so my fingers don't have to play twister in order to pull off those live flipper nudges.
@@w0mblemania I have thought of that but all my messing with it has turned it into a strange object that looks more like it belongs in the Mad Max universe than it does a gamers den. Its kind of turned into a prototype of something I'd like to build and am contemplating doing just that. If that happens I'll share for sure. In the meantime, picture that tankstick with the overhang edges cut off and sanded down with rudimentary but functional plastic levers (made out of an old Hobie kayak hull) that are used to operate several switches that are otherwise too far for my fingers to travel
I've only ever played pinball using the bumpers/shoulder buttons where possible, the delay in flipper response caused by the trigger travel just isn't worth it.
Those loop passes are just dead bounces. a true loop pass has you drop the flipper just before the ball gets to it, which deadens some of the momentum, and gives you a clean catch on the other flipper. They are wonky on fx, but you can use one to take out the force field super skills hot in AFM, which is a famous table for loop passes
Yeah, you're probably right about that. Funny, after I published it and watched it back I saw another issue with them and regretted not fleshing that out a little more. I kinda regret leaving out a couple of tricks as well so I might do a fuller version soon and if so I'll try to redeem myself
how many times can u "tilt" a machine or how often before it becomes tilted? i swea i tilted like 3 times and it goes off not even fast, then others i do like 6 tilts in around same time i fee like.
I've never timed the tilt warning cool down period, but I'm guessing it's around 15 - 10 seconds. You'll get 3 warnings before the next nudge gives a tilt
I'm on PC and use a modified X-Arcade Tank Stick which does a respectable job of simulating playing a real machine. I did try a keyboard setup initially but I play much better with a tank stick
@@scootinlootinnshootin683 thanks so much! Just got into Pinball pretty recently (specifically pinball FX)and have been playing on Xbox… lol. The flipper lag as well as having so little/no control to do micro flips and precise movements because of the Xbox triggers is getting a frustrating. I’ve been wanting to find something like that X Arcade Stick so I can move over to pc and have a more realistic playing experience for a while now. Anyways, thanks so much for the response!
W-O-W! This is so impressive, thank you so much!
I know you from the top of all the leaderboards. 😅
It's of no wonder why you are there too. These techniques are superb and you have mastered them. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the compliments. Spent many hours over many years playing real pinball and almost everything I learned there translates to fx nicely, which I think is testament to how well Zen have reproduced some of these tables as well as the physics they play with. Thats what keeps me coming back to this game. That and the leaderboard scores I am yet to conquer ;-)
My man is living in the Pinball FX equivalent of 2342.
Definitely learned a lot. Just started my journey and will be coming back to this video soon.
Good to hear. I'm half-way done recording footage for a similar themed video focused on multiball, but I broke my right flipper finger last week so I'm off duty for a few weeks :-(
Best tip video by far on for pinball FX.
I knew about 30-40% of this stuff, there others make me feel like a real amateur. My dad was a nudge master and people would always make jokes till his high score always was double to triple the second place score. Thanks for the vid, im going to have to watch multiple times to "relearn" some stuff :)
Thanks for the comment and glad you found this helpful. And yep, when you reach a point where your dad has done it becomes possible to start racking up scores other players can't conceive of (until they are shown the way), which I think is why so many are quick to accuse top level players of cheating.
I actually left a few tricks out of this clip (mainly related to surviving multiball) because I felt they required explanation instead of just a video example. I'll get around to posting that one soon
Great Video!
Great vid thanks.
Thank you!!
Great job… very helpful 😊
Glad you're finding it useful, that's what I was hoping to achieve. Cheers!
Insane skills bro.
Thanks mate. That's years of experience honed on real machines manifest on a simulation. I think it speaks pretty highly of Zen's accomplishments in recreating these as faithfully as they have
Great video
learned alot on this video thank you
Thanks! Nicely demonstrated. I learned a few terms for things that I do, but didn't know what to call them e.g. live flipper nudge.
Thanks for the compliment. There's probably other phrases for some of those moves, I'm not 100% on the vernacular of it all, but that's what me and my pinball buddies called it :-)
What is this sorcery? Absolutely incredible.
Thanks. That's years and years of pinball experience and ingrained muscle memory translated to digital pinball. Its a testament to how well Zen have created a simulation that mimics the real thing. Pretty much every technique shown works much the same way on a real machine, with a similar degree of difficulty (except for the nudge pass, which is infinitely easier with digital pinball).
Thanks for the video! I've been struggling trying to pull these real life techniques in the game. I kept seeing your scores and trying to aim higher and higher, I can just barely squeeze into the top 100 on Hurricane and Fun House and lower 100s on other Williams tables. I don't know how the hell you got so high on CFTBL best I can do is hit move your car over and over.
You're welcome. The main secret to scores like that in CFTBL is to multiply jackpot scores during multiball with the left ramp before trying to score any jackpots. Catch one ball with the left flipper and use the right to keep hitting that ramp until 4x is up, then start hitting jackpots. I do much better in this game if I play slow and methodically, more so than just about any other
Amazing video, thanks so much! What view are you using in this video for the pinball tables?
Thanks and you're welcome. I'm using manual cam mode, with slider maxed out to the very top.
Really nice technique! I knew some of these but others I didn't. I'll have to practice some of them and hope I can break my last big high score for TNG. I peaked and can't seem to crack it again :(
Thanks for the comments. STNG is a tough nut to crack, struggling to crack my own PB as well. One of the hardest pinnies ever made, which makes it my favourite. This might help give you a few ideas: czcams.com/video/aTl-4w5g4_U/video.html
@@scootinlootinnshootin683 Thanks for the response man. Since I left this comment I finally beat my old high score but only by a 100 million or so; I didn't even move up the list lmao if you scroll down from your #1 spot you'll see me sitting at #25 😆 I'm trying though. I came real close to getting my second Final Frontier!
Any tips for keeping the ball from draining in Attack From Mars? I had heard to avoid using the left flipper to hit the center, and that helps
Avoiding left flipper to center targets would have been my first bit of advice to. Aside from that, one tip I would share is to send the ball into the jets as often as possible during multiball. Balls will get held up in the jets and the longer the better, leaving the rest of the playfield clearer to make shots.
bellissimo...
Great tips thanks. What is going on with the left ball at @1:07 though?
That's "The Power" magnet in Adams Family, which makes the ball very tricky to predict and handle during multiball and Seance modes. Its the very worst part of that game.
@@scootinlootinnshootin683 Ah that makes sense, I didn't know that the Adams Family had this feature as I have not played it much yet.
@2:07 Wow, pretty neat. Thanks for this.
Are you using a keyboard, or controller?
I using an Xbox controller, and I'm finding I can't pull off nuanced cannonball-style shots with the triggers. There's just too much travel.
I'm not using a keyboard or standard controller. I have decades of experience playing real tables so I had to replicate the feeling of playing an actual machine as closely as I could, without going to the hassle of building a cabinet. So I reluctantly bought an X-Arcade Tank Stick and was very relieved once I plugged it in and instantly found it superior to keyboard or x-box controller. It does feel much more like Pinball, especially if I play standing up. I'm kind of amazed these things don't get more attention in the Pinball sim community. They're not perfect (I'm tempted to swap out the flipper switches for real ones) but they are way better than a keyboard.
shop.xgaming.com/products/x-arcade-tankstick-trackball-usb-included
I have modified it quite a bit, sawing off the edges to give it a squarer shape at the sides, repositioned a switch for quicker access to a fwd nudge. I've also added extension levers for the secondary flipper buttons so my fingers don't have to play twister in order to pull off those live flipper nudges.
@@scootinlootinnshootin683 Wow, that's awesome. Maybe show your setup in a vid sometimes? I think a lot of people would be interested. Cheers.
@@w0mblemania I have thought of that but all my messing with it has turned it into a strange object that looks more like it belongs in the Mad Max universe than it does a gamers den. Its kind of turned into a prototype of something I'd like to build and am contemplating doing just that. If that happens I'll share for sure. In the meantime, picture that tankstick with the overhang edges cut off and sanded down with rudimentary but functional plastic levers (made out of an old Hobie kayak hull) that are used to operate several switches that are otherwise too far for my fingers to travel
I've only ever played pinball using the bumpers/shoulder buttons where possible, the delay in flipper response caused by the trigger travel just isn't worth it.
Those loop passes are just dead bounces. a true loop pass has you drop the flipper just before the ball gets to it, which deadens some of the momentum, and gives you a clean catch on the other flipper. They are wonky on fx, but you can use one to take out the force field super skills hot in AFM, which is a famous table for loop passes
Yeah, you're probably right about that. Funny, after I published it and watched it back I saw another issue with them and regretted not fleshing that out a little more. I kinda regret leaving out a couple of tricks as well so I might do a fuller version soon and if so I'll try to redeem myself
how many times can u "tilt" a machine or how often before it becomes tilted? i swea i tilted like 3 times and it goes off not even fast, then others i do like 6 tilts in around same time i fee like.
I've never timed the tilt warning cool down period, but I'm guessing it's around 15 - 10 seconds. You'll get 3 warnings before the next nudge gives a tilt
thanks!@@scootinlootinnshootin683
Is stage flipping supported? I cant get it to work
I don't believe so.
What’s your setup?? Are you on pc just using keyboard?
I'm on PC and use a modified X-Arcade Tank Stick which does a respectable job of simulating playing a real machine. I did try a keyboard setup initially but I play much better with a tank stick
@@scootinlootinnshootin683 thanks so much! Just got into Pinball pretty recently (specifically pinball FX)and have been playing on Xbox… lol. The flipper lag as well as having so little/no control to do micro flips and precise movements because of the Xbox triggers is getting a frustrating. I’ve been wanting to find something like that X Arcade Stick so I can move over to pc and have a more realistic playing experience for a while now. Anyways, thanks so much for the response!