Biggest reason the Suns are down 2-0 to the Timberwolves? | NBA | SPEAK
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- The Phoenix Suns lost to the Minnesota Timberwolves, falling to 0-2 in the series. Devin Booker said “we need to stick together once things turn bad." Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy discuss the reasons why the Suns are down in the series.
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Biggest reason the Suns are down 2-0 to the Timberwolves? | NBA | SPEAK
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Dave could carry a show better
Joy just needs to get on only fans and stop talking.
I'm tired of hearing " no disrespect to the Timberwolves". Give them the credit they deserve. It's always the Timberwolves not winning the game it's the other team losing the game
Once a Minnesota sports team wins a chip, and the media execs realize its the 11th largest market in the US - with all of the ratings and money that comes with it (I say this because they cant shut up about smaller markets that they cant stop locking their knobs in comparison) - the tune will change. Last time Minnesota won anything was 1991. They havent even been IN a championship since.
Nuggets fan and we heard the same stuff all last year. They’ll never give respect to small markets
They do the same to the Nuggets. They not ready to let these old dudes go into the sunset.
Do what the spurs did for 20 years. Not gaf and win chips 🤷🏽♂️
@@JustVerdes Na it's cause y'all beat 3 play-in teams last year to win chip. Wolves are better than y'all and everyone knows it.
The biggest reason is the wolves
They won’t give us that type of praise until game 7 against the nuggets!! We’re going to make them respect us this postseason
@@carlos.4700 0 chance wolves beat the nuggets 2nd round they might not even beat phoenix
@@SxpremeTestify what exactly do you base this on? Wolves have an amazing team but casuals like you just didn’t watch so assume they are average
@@MrAdmvp wolves not winnin 3 games vs Denver their offense is trash Edwards and kat can’t get bailed out by role players every game
@@SxpremeTestifyeven the nuggets said the wolves was there hardest match up during the postseason and we didn’t even have Jaden or naz even playing and our team wasn’t nearly as good as it is now I’m sure we can beat the nuggets in a 7 game series this year
Disrespecting the Wolves like crazy, KAT and Gobert are better players than Bradley Beal, the Twolves are a stacked roster
Perfect example of how the mainstream sports media is so lazy on their takes. They do virtually no research and they cling, desperately, to their legacy teams and stars. They know so little of the Wolves. The Suns are names, not a team. Coaching and teamwork are very important. The Suns haven't shot well because the Wolves have the #1 defense in the NBA.
But honestly Rudy is the reason the T'Wolves won yesterday. Rudy controlled the game.
Rudy is the Wolves team MVP. I've watched 95% of their games...Rudy has been a monster.
Everyone wants to discredit Rudy. The man is a Defensive General. He's not just a great defensive player himself, he makes literally everyone else better at defense just by his presence. Its ridiculous that these talkin heads still don't recognize that.
Fun fact: In these playoffs, Rudy had made 10-14 shots, 14 FGA makes him 7th scoring option on the team. 6 guys got more FGA than Rudy and Rudy still has 3rds most total points on the team with 32 in 2 games. Jaden McDaniels has 34 points in 2 games 24 FGA which is 2 more points than Rudy with 10 more shots. Make it make sense. 😂
The Nba thought they could get away with taking the true Centers & true point guards out of the NBA game but it'll expose you in the playoffs
You can’t play football without a quarterback and TE
Str8 facts you know ball💯 having iso scorers is cute but if theirs no orchestrator or someone who can fox tell the tempo your toast
And also lose defense, not going to ever works
What other team doing this?
Which championship team the last 10 years has a true PG???
Gobert is so underrated.
😂😂😂
Definitely not
They didn't even mention him and he is the biggest reason the Suns are down 0-2
How is Bradley Beal more accomplished than Towns or Gobert? James Jones put the clown make up on
Yeah, he averaged near 30 points in the regular season on a trash team. That is somehow an accomplishment 😂😂😂
And James Jones, Shady could not be more wrong... Ant, Conley, Cobert, KAT, McDaniels, NAW, Naz Reid - that team looks pretty stacked to me
That’s just guys who are good at what they do wouldn’t say stacked
@@user-yg9yf1ke9h The irony is that people talk about Beal like he is part of something that could be referred to as a "big three".
KAT is better than Beal and basically everything, even the things Beal is best at.
KAT scores more than Beal.
KAT has a better FG percentage.
KAT has a better 3pt percentage.
KAT gets to the free throw line more often AND shoots a higher percentage.
KAT also averages just under 11 rebounds a game for his career. (this is somewhat positional, but it speaks to how valuable Towns actually is)
Beal does get a few more assists and KAT more blocks, but that is just more positional stuff.
Bottom line, with the exception of KAT's rookie year, there really has not been a single second in which Beal has been the better basketball player. Beal had two above average scoring seasons in Washington, but he was also the primary scoring option taking 5-6 more shots per night than KAT was. There is not a single GM of a winning team that would take Beal over KAT right now. Not one.
3 football players and joy taylor talking about basketball this was a brutal segment. As a wolves fan i admit I thought suns were gonna beat the breaks off them but the wolves made adjustments and are literally getting contributions from everyone.
💯 trash segment… 🤦♂️
I watched it for the laughs...
"No disrespect to the Wolves, but...." Imma bout to make an idiotic statement.
They talk about scoring for the Suns without mentioning the number 1 defense in the Wolves….total disrespect
They act like the Timberwolves were not fighting for the first seed right up to the final day.
When you only cover the Lakers and Suns, you get shocked when other teams are good. 😮😮
Lakers as of now. putting up a better fight against the defending champs though. more than Suns facing the upcoming wolves
@@brevinpascua8495blowing a 20 point lead isn’t putting up a fight
The Nuggets said last year that the Wolves was the toughest competition….And none of these so called professionals paid attention….WOLVES IN 4
They don’t have a true PG. All of the 3 players are just scorers. Also KD need to stop the “oh I don’t care about who is the leader in the team just want to hoop” ish and start being the primary guy and claim his throne. It’s legacy on the line.
Da whole nba just designed for scoring. Outta hand
I said the same in the beginning. They have no point gaurd and a good 6 man off the bench.
Not having a PG or a sixth man didn’t seem to matter in that last game of the season.
This is on the players who just aren’t matching the Wolves energy.
Spending more time going at the refs for calls
Kd was never a leader and his time on golden state when he played free proves that his legacy is kd is a top. 20-30 player if no other ring comes his way and that he needed golden states dynasty to win a ring where he wasn’t a leader
Bro 35 years old , it’s books team at the end of day
As a fan of MN sports for a long time now I hope this is the year the Wolves can make some noise. Year after year of listening to the media talk about the opposing team and what they did wrong instead of praising the MN team. When it’s not that it’s how they can get their star out of MN to a bigger stage. Hopefully the narrative can change.
The media still speaking of everyone but the 🐺
They never talk about what a MN team did well it’s always what the other team did wrong. Whether it’s this series or Vikings going 13-3 or coming back from 33-0.
Vikings are a QB and a couple of pieces on the secondary away from contending.
Siri. Show me people who have never watched a Timberwolves game all season.
The fact that they think ANT is the only dude on the Timberwolves says all anyone needs to know. They clearly haven’t watched a single quarter of the Wolves all season long.
Yeah they sleeping on wolves depth, talent and coaching
it's almost like it takes a complete team to win a team game, not just a bunch of talented players
If the suns get swept i don't want anyone putting kd and steph/lebron in the same sentence bro would've been swept in the first round in 2 of the past 3 post seasons.
Lebron is about to be swept! Steph not even in the playoffs….
They won’t
When's the last time none of those three have made it past the first round of the playoffs? That's been a long time...
@@SaintLafanteLebron 40 playing the the defending champs! When he was KD age he was still going to the finals and won another title FOH
LeBron crybaby 😢 peds super team having I don't want to hear nothing
Acho is the only one that made sense. Talent don’t matter if you don’t got chemistry and coaching.
Antman Antman
That shirt is hugging Joy in all the joy places 😂
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Take a drink everytime someone says "no disrespect!" 😂😂😂
The wolves are good and should get credit for how they play ,great defensively and aggressive playmakers. If they just play their ball i think they could be the team this yr that gives Denver an issue. I’m overly optimistic or my eyes are deceiving me. Edwards could make it known right now he’s the superstar he has the potential to be already if he continues to be the dog he’s been, he stays hungry ,this team stays healthy WATCH OUT!!
You ask why are the Suns down 0-2 when you should be asking why are the Wolves up 2-0. The answer is Rudy. He's a winner .
The physicality of this years playoffs is kind of insane lol
Bc real basketball is so rare
I've been a Timberpups fan since season 1...how good hearing them called the Big Bad Wolves.
Fun fact: In these playoffs, Rudy had made 10-14 shots, 14 FGA makes him 7th scoring option on the team. 6 guys got more FGA than Rudy and Rudy still has 3rds most total points on the team with 32 in 2 games. Jaden McDaniels has 34 points in 2 games 24 FGA which is 2 more points than Rudy with 10 more shots. Make it make sense. 😂
T wolves are clearly the better team
Learn something and move on
Next topic
No it’s a team vs the BIG THREE.
Thanks lol u literally just put what I commented which is a whole paragraph into 8 words. That was SUCH an awful take. By far one of the worst I've heard in a good while.
Yup. This was a particularly bad take The worst I've seen in all these shows in a while. Ant vs. the Big 3...? Come on man...
I hate saying thsi but Gilbert Arenas said it beautifully the Suns don't have a system to fall back on instead of just isos and no defined roles
T wolves going to the western conference finals, they play real defense consistently 😂
KD. No question. Best player gets the blame. At least that's how it is and would be if this was LeBron. Let's keep the same energy, guys. LeBron is getting the blame for Denver, so KD should get it for this series
Gonna be funny when it's the nuggets vs the t wolves or OKC and the media has to talk about someone other than LA teams or Phoenix
They will still talk about them and ignore the Wolves and Thunder
They gonna start talking about the off-season instead of the playoffs@@hitman9198
Nah fr watch it be what’s next for LA?😂😂😂
Joy should be running this show not acho
He has that Emmy.
He was able to have Wiley removed.
@@christophermccoy5724And he’s still a buster.
Too much is made of the Suns so called "big 3" and it looks good on paper, but in reality.... too much redundancy skillset-wise between those 3 and none of them are true 2-way players. Other than Royce O'neal, the bench players are one way players too - just too much redundancy on that roster, not very physically imposing. Then the Wolves with their size and athleticism, the best defensive team in the league putting the clamps on them.
The Wolves D is awesome, and that gets the headlines, but they were ranked 3rd in 3pt% this season... It's not as though ANT and company aren't an offensive threat too.
Shady need to stick to football 😂
Frank Vogelz need to use his bench players. Josh Okogie is the better defender on that team..what is Vogel doing sitting him on the bench
Vogel is absolutely horrible. It's 90% his fault
He's a black hole on offense though, alot like Vanderbelt for the Lakers
James Jones.... dude! The regular season means squat. It's the playoffs bro! A team has days to exclusively practice and prepare for you. Nobody in this panel takes into account that the Wolves were consistently one of the highest defensively rated teams in the league. McDaniels, NAW, Ant - find me a better trio of perimeter defenders than that with Gobert protecting the paint. Heck! we saw on several occassions Gobert getting switched to Durant and holding his own well on the perimeter.
Towns been playing better defense as well
He clueless. You should have former bball player discussing Bball matters. Shady and him are clueless
Funny thing about this segment is that they say the BIG 3 wave started when Bron teamed up with Wade & Bosh in MIA. Ppl forget that Bron did that AFTER not being able to get past BOS BIG 3 of Pierce/KG/Allen. BOS started the BIG 3 wave after winning a ring in the FIRST yr of their Big 3 forming after having the worst record in the league just the previous year. Yeah, they only won 1 ring together but they went to back-to-back Finals. MIA went to the Finals their first year together & lost but then won back-to-back rings. But Bron took his talents to South Beach cuz he couldn't get past BOS BIG 3 in the playoffs.
Also to Joy's point, the Celtics' Big 3 and the Heat Big 3 had much better all-around teams than the Suns do currently. LeBron was playing off ball a lot more in Miami and not just running point all the time. The Celtics and Heat had a lot of ball movement, not just iso play.
@@drlee2 Very true.
KD built the suns roster so it’s his fault the team is built that way. Everything falls back on KD because if the suns were winning all u would heard is how good KD is. U can’t get all the credit when u win an zero blame when u lose.
@@edwinbrown2148 why not? Bron does it & the media does it for him. Smh
@@JECZ23 Lebron won a championship for every team he played for. KD only won for the warriors. Can’t compare KD to lebron til he at least win 2 more outside of golden state.
Kevin Durant has a curse you can't win without warriors
James with the ad-libs 😂
You’re fooling yourselves into thinking the Suns are not playing well. It’s the Wolves defence negating their offence. Wolves figured out how to defend on Suns big 3 and the rest is just the Wolves having to score on a below average defence team.
Joy Taylor needs to be mentioned in the comment section
Just because dbook can play the pg position doesn’t make him one.they need a true pg that can actually facilitate and slow the pace down for them and they lost that when they let cp walk.
This also comes back to drafting and developing your players
"He ain't doin nuthin in his own shoe"
😂😂😂
this is what happens when the #1 defense shuts down the #14 defense. looks like a sweep
Im glad Shady said wat he said.. Bradley Beal and Book is selling.. Beal especially.. Bro missing wide open dunks and missing wide open 3s.. Bro who are you
We have mcdaniels,NAW, Naz too. Rudy is playing well. Towns is playing his best game right now. Twolves are a TEAM
Noone noticed the Obvious: GRAYSON ALLEN injury was huge... because he was their best player during the regular season and the best prospect... it was psychologically deflating
“But it’s 3 all stars versus Ant”
Does this man have CTE or something?
None of y’all watch the Wolves or do your research and it shows.
Acho made perfect sense. Top offense ≠ top ISO scorers. Ball movement and structured offenses is where it's at.
I mean KAT dropped 50 in the Allstar game and had a 60+ point game during the regular season. He is a hooper and Rudy is defensive player of the year, check his stats he's putting in work. Jaden McDaniels is no slouch and it is getting to a point where he is no longer going to be considered an "other". Mike is one of the most underrated floor generals in the league. It is not KD, Book and Beal only against Ant. Those dudes in Minnesota are talented and play defense, starters and players off the bench. It is constant ball pressure for 48 minutes and they are physical. KD, Book and Beal aren't being allowed to get comfortable. I love Book, I love KD and Beal and have been cheering for the suns the last several seasons though the Lakers are my team. It ain't looking good for us by the way but for real give them boys in Minnesota their credit already! They are scary good and it's looking like Denver is the only team standing in their way and yes I know it's only two games but if you play defense, you play defense and defense wins championships. If the Suns don't win game 3 it is over.
The playoffs are about matchups. The Wolves are a bad matchup for 2 teams : the Suns and the Nuggets bc the Wolves got size at the rim with Gobert and KAT and on the perimeter with McDaniels, Alexander and Ant.
Suns might get swept. They don’t play defense, they don’t have a PG to set their offense and get them easy looks and they don’t have a bench that the coach trusts.
It's all about how Suns lost not how the Wolves flat out beat em.
Why not ? What games are you watching ?
@nicko3896 Everyone acts like the Suns are playing by themselves. They're playing bad because the best defensive team in the last 10 years is making them play that way.
Timberwolves are put together good Gobert was a steal for 5 draft picks, defender every night,Suns need defense, they lost this when they traded for KD and Beal.Defense wins championships always.
Okay, this is where we're going to have a disagreement, it was not a good trade, the players we traded for Gobert are incredibly valuable... We gave away too much.... Now, the only reason it's working out is because of Anthony Edwards..
Twolves are going to beat Denver and idc who disagrees. We match up so well against them and our defense is ELITE ELITE!
The biggest reason is if KD is getting old. McDaniels was driving right to the basket 🧺 getting layups suns have no defense.!!
Phoenix had a great team with tremendous good chemistry in 21', with the point God and it didn't end well. They even had freaking Ayton playing great. Game three and I want to see the Suns perform their best which is capable of beating the Wolves.
James Jones' adlibs and interjections 😂😂
Acho got these guys with the "who else besides Jokic has been an All-Star" comment. Case closed. Team > Superstar talent.
Really you need both, but you're not gonna win without depth and a well built team with structure and clear roles. That's the issue with the Suns, and what the TImberwolves and the Nuggets instead have.
I agree in many situations you need stars but you also need the right talent to compliment your stars. They need a Pg/ facilitator. I would honestly give Thomas some minutes to see if he can bring my offense together like a Conley for the Wolves.
"Shady you right on it" 😂😂😂
Lol pause
JOY
It's amazing To me ! That they never blame Kd . Bradley Beal??? If that was bron they would be raking him over the cold .
the last great trio is DURANT-CURRY-THOMPSON
And they had a great team supporting them: Draymond and Andre for defense, Livingston, West, and Looney were solid players.
m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m my thing is" -shady's favorite line
KD DISRESPECTING STEPH WILL FOREVER BE HIS LEGACY….. THE BEST SHOOTER EVER AND YOU WANT THE CREDIT BOY NOT ISH WITHOUT STEPH 💯💯💯
Anthony Edward’s is HIM
So many have been sleeping on the Wolves, even though they had a great season and came top 3 in the West, especially compared to last year. They have what it takes to go all the way if they keep their own TOs under control.
Why is it a shock that Phoenix is struggle when a 1/3 of the big 3s has been in and out of the lineup all season you can't build continuity like that and plus Minnesota is bigger, tougher, and a good defensive team
shady ..."m-m-m-m-m-m-m MY thing is "
Blame everyone except kd as usual
How is it that Beal gets praise as an elite bucket getter, when usually players like him just get accused of putting up points on a bad team? When this signing happened, I dont remember hearing any doubts on whether or not he would contribute, it was just automatically assumed Phoenix got a big three now
Guy on the left seems like he’s never played team basketball before😭
Why can't we just admit that the way they judge players is also flawed. What makes them the "big" three in the first place? For some reason it was just decided that being a "big time" player meant you were a 1-3 pure scorer who primarily takes jump shots. It's nonsense.
And the KAT disrespect is hilarious. They are talking about Beal like he isn't CLEARLY worse than KAT. KAT is even better at all of the things that Beal gets credit for. They both average 34 minutes for their career, and KAT scores more, has a better FG%, has a better 3pt%, and also averages just shy of 11 rebounds per game. KAT is even better on the line than Beal is... and he is 7ft tall. There isn't a single GM in the entire NBA that takes Beal over KAT right now, or really at any point in time. The only thing "big" about Beal is the over-hype.
Speak doesn't need 3 football folks breaking down the NBA. U need someone who can look at the x's and o's and figure out what is really goin on. At least bring in a guest host (old NBA player ) for the playoffs or keep Ric Bucher on for the next 2months.
What team gave the nuggets the most problems in the playoffs last year? The Timberwolves.
So the lack of depth and having 3 max contracts like we said before the season is coming back to haunt them kinda crazy how wel all knew it wasn’t gonna work but suns fans loud with no trophy and kd fans don’t realize golden state is the only place he was gonna win rings consistently
Wolves are the better team, next question
shady is terrible dude be stuttering too much. his favorite line is : "m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m My thing is..."
They talk too much about the Suns but they didn’t give much effort or time to talk about the key contributors of the Wolves like Coach Finch, NAW, Naz. The reasons why KD, Book and Beal are not performing well because of the Wolves defense. Wolves even didn’t bother double teaming against the big 3. That’s how good their defense is, the TWolves played one on one against the best offensive players in the NBA.
Joy looking like Jessica Rabbit 😍
Bruh she is looking super hot with that haircut...
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These dudes talking about basketball is cringeworthy
great stats
The the problem with big threes is if you are all specialized to do the same thing. If you all are just scores and that's it then there's an issue. There is a reason why Michael Jordan went to get rodman who specialize in getting boards at playing defense. You don't need a big three. You need players who can help and support in all areas of the game.
One team has 3 players that are basically the same type of player 2 SG and a taller SG
One team has no PG and no bench
One team plays no defense (allowing multiple layups all series)
And yet we expect them to win cause they have 3 stars? Yeah nah it’s a TEAM Sport. Suns might win one game at best and that’s it!
No one’s talking about the “what if” Suns wouldn’t have essentially blown it up after losing in the finals in 21’. That team had everything needed to contend for a championship and they blew up all of their depth and draft picks to grab KD and haven’t been the same since.
This team is leaderless.
Y’all better give the wolves there credit and just admit that the wolves are a great team that’s the reason why there down 0-2 the suns are facing the best defense in the league and a top 3 team in the league with the best sg in the league,6moty and Dpoty this is just an amazing squad
People forget you can get away without having another big and point guard in the regular season, but when it comes to the postseason where a team can key in on your flaws you can get exposed
It's hard watching these dudes talk basketball. They just speaking in general saying whatever. At some point the Media has to respect the wolves. Wolves were the one seed basically all season yet ANT gets absolutely no mention for MVP.
the wolve look good......they match well against nugget...the defensive just so good
Watching this after the sweep…😅
The wolves 🐺 are young athletic and running those old guys off the court. Not to mention they’re crazy talented so I believe that they’re also coached very well.
KD is just Melo… if he never went to golden state