Time for Warriors to break up the Steph Curry-Klay Thompson-Draymond Green trio? | NBA | SPEAK
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- The Golden State Warriors' season ended with a 118-94 loss to the Sacramento Kings in the play-in tournament. Klay Thompson notably finished 0-for-10 with zero points. With the shooting guard set to be a free agent, the basketball world is questioning the future of the game's biggest trios and dynasties. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, Ric Bucher and James Jones debate whether it is time for the Warriors to break up their Big 3 or not.
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This man said play for fun 😂😂😂
I buy tickets and subscribe to expensive cable to watch them compete. I can watch Harlem Globe Trotters for fun😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why didn't Steph tell GSW GM to trade Klay & Draymond. 😂
Football players built different because when they playing it’s absolutely true 😂
@@omasanbuwa1983 aren't u watching for fun anyway? Lol ur not apart of the team you're a fan
This man said just be content and play for fun😂😂Lord have mercy, James Jones sounded distraught
You guys aren’t actually listening you can’t say they gotta move on but not offer any actual trades who can you get?
What these so-called analysts forgot to mention is the league catches up with the warriors small ball lineup. The day of warriors winning championships with their big Three is over.
Exactly you always have to get better every year
They have to go big, they can’t just have shooters they have to have athleticism and size on the court at the same time, they need a rim running big, I’m looking at capela, if I’m them and I’ll make a deal that gets me a big, they have maxed out looney so it’s time to get younger legs in the paint
Dude they’re in their mid 30’s, with a weak bench. Klay’s legs aren’t the same and they don’t have a legit 2nd scorer. They still won 46 games in the west. Y’all don’t even realize how much of a win that was for them
@@petecolon162more excuses. Bulls where in a similar position stop the age excuse. They’re done. I love curry but it’s over
@@petecolon162 We do realize how much of a win it is for them. They were able to go fishing early 😂.
Joys versatility with her hair game is flawless shorty STAY a 10 😭
8* and shes not flawless get a job
@@fwkira864hater much? 😂
@@ktmoney5680 nope
Her Rack is a 10
Fr I bet Shady has the hardest time not hollering every single day lol. His PR prepped him to be professional lmao
Because Steph can't hold nobody Klay lost his step and Draymond is a headcase next topic
Man I'm telling y'all that punch hurt a whole lot more then what even the Warriors want to admit. Thank you Mr. Green
It was the punch but also the team’s reaction to the punch which was doing nothing. Steph curry is a great player but has close to zero leadership skills
I agree
@@redesignedlife777What? The punch happened after they won the championship.
@@rockjm9876543210 ya you right. I get confused by when he grabbed nuts, slapped and kicked people. Lol….. that Poole punch should have been suspended a whole season
Why wasn’t Steph all that last night? There was no other threat on offense to alleviate the defense from focusing on Steph. So they trapped him, pressed him full court and funneled him to the paint. Rick be talking nonsense.
Rick bucher is a proven curry hater, everybody knows it. He’ll always disrespect Curry and treat him like he’s nothing. There’s some tension and beef with Curry dating back to when Rick was a warriors sideline reporter ten years ago z
Based on abilities and skills, Curry is still a top 5 player in the nba. Problem is that none of teammates make his job easier and it’s pretty demoralizing for him. In last nights game, Curry only took 4 shots because Kerr wanted to use him as a decoy and Currys teammates froze him out. But in the second half, Curry tried his best but it was too late . It is what it is, the kings got their revenge . Good for them
He was hurt . retwisted his ankle vs Pelicans
@@usmanioa Top 10 but not top 5 anymore. Frankly, id take Jaylen Brunson over him right now
You mean like when KD was pretty much out there by himself in Brooklyn in that playoff series against the bucks and lost by dropping 40 but Giannis and company were better no? KD literally was out there without kyrie, harden on one leg, claxton and Jeff green 🤷♂️
Love Slick but his take was hilarious 😂😂😂
did this dude just say the magic of the 90s were a dynasty? wtf!? 😂😂😂
Magic Johnson was a dynasty by himself, how can you not know this??? SMH!!! Casuals 😬😬😬
@@lastgiddon
I think he thought the Orlando Magic. 🤷🏾♂️
Orlando magic
Yes, he did! I had to replay that part
I was actually making a joke. Afterall, a player cannot be a dynasty by themselves.
acho saying rich is best speaker on basketball on national tv is crazy ash 😭
He gone kiss up to Ric every chance he get
@@keiymosauce4039he be doing shady like that too saying he the best to speak on the chiefs bc he won a superbowl w them like huh? lmaoo
Fax 📠
I thinks *Rick is actually really good when he isn't chasing hot takes. That said Leggler is the man.
Klay is washed. But all the people saying to get rid of Klay, just keep that same energy when you complain about players needing to be "loyal" because I keep saying it. That loyalty only goes one way. The minute a player drops off theres no more loyalty for him.
i promise u what ur saying is THE reason I became a Lebron fan. Out of spite. When he left Cleveland the first time I couldnt believe the hate that young man got. I said if he came out and didnt live up to the hype he wouldve been traded like nothing.
@furious79 It’s pretty ridiculous to claim teams should keep all of its players year after year out of loyalty. Players leave whenever they want or demand trades all the time. The warriors have been very patient with Klay but unfortunately he’s not the same player.
I never made that claim so not sure what you're saying. My point was teams pretty much always act in their own best interests, and players should do the same. Fans get upset when a guy chooses to sign elsewhere in free agency as if he owes the team something. He doesn't.
Slid Dave out of the seat off camera! Goodness they dirty!! 😂😂😂
Ric must be blind like Kuminga didnt have a breakout year 20 a game. Kerr didn't play Kuminga consistently until the second half of the season. Trade cp3, Klay & Wiggins. Kerr refuses to play Moody consistently as well.
Add Looney.
Keep moody…
looney, wiggins trade; I’m looking at Brooklyn and Atlanta for pieces…end cp3 contract
None of those players are gonna get you any better. At this point, you couldn’t give Wiggins away
Lack of play time for Moody and TJD (first half of the season) has been the biggest travesty and why the Warriors had to be in the play-in to begin with. Giving so many minutes to inconsistent Wiggins and Klay really cost them a chance to be out of the play-in spot.
Thing is they didn’t want Kuminga or Moody to be “the man” because it wouldn’t work in their run around offense designed to get the ball to Steph curry. They just needed those guys to be serviceable as role players so defenses would be honest. They’re going to try and bring in star vets not focus on young players.
This clown would never speak of the role Kerr played in the underdevelopment of our young players. They can not play if the coach don't give them play.
As an opposing fan I was relieved to see how Kerr mismanaged Kuminga and Moody. They are very nice young players but unfortunately in a bad system.
I was just about to say it’s hard to say Kuminga and Moody have not developed into the players we thought they would. Kerr has something against Moody, to me that dude much like Kuminga jumps off the screen when he’s in the game. But moody has so many games where he doesn’t get to play period or gets used too little. Kuminga made a big jump this season. I see a lot of potential for the warriors honestly. Our mistake is having CP3, Kevon Looney, and Dario Saric on the team. Meanwhile Draymond is out of control missing 20 games this season and Andrew Wiggins missing a month randomly towards the end of the season. Maybe one of them needs to go too.
don't be greedy. Don't waste future draft picks to try to keep the dream alive. stay strong, lower expectations and keep your fans happy by keeping the 3 together. have lots of talks with steph next season and determine if you need to do him right by trading him, and loading up with draft picks and bench players.
Ric been salty for a minute
Letting Curry-Thompson-Green ride off into the sunset on the Warriors roster will reduce Golden State to a lottery team in 3-4 years. Like Charles Barkley said, nobody in that group is going to get younger. You gotta shake up the starting five. Only untradeable person on that team is Curry.
Even then if your rebuilding anyways trading curry is your best bet. Hes got another 3 years at most and if he retires a warrior you miss out an a huge haul. Can probably get 3 firsts for him or a young star and 2 firsts which would jump start the rebuild. Would be the difference between having a thunder type rebuild and less like the pistons rebuild they would have if they let all their stars ride off into retirement.
They should have kept Poole. He was a great backup for scoring. Ah well...
That game was crazy,the Kings looked like the Warriors and Warriors looked like the Kings😌
Nobody said it so I will they really botched that Poole trade, Poole was a perfect fit for GS, he took pressure off Steph and Klay. He averaged 20 ppg last year and 18 ppg the previous season, they still haven’t replaced his production. They could still have a legit 18-20 point scorer with Steph and Klay, now it’s literally Steph or nothing because now Klay can’t buy a shot
Should have sent green packing to the wizards
Bro fr I wish Poole came back
Didn’t know the Warriors were the only team that went through stuff.
Is steve Kerr a good coach? I’m just not sold on him, championships or not.
Yes. Klay is a corpse now. Was there in spirit. 0 points 🤦 He's just never going to be the same Klay he used to be, so better to get rid of him now
corpse he was the 4th best shooter in the league on 39%
😂😂😂
@@anthonyclick893hmm 🤔
An where did that get the warriors last nig when klay being the 4th best shooter in the league shooting at 39 % really matered, he was a corpse last night no one cares about the previous games this was the game to get them into the playoffs an klay was terrible. @anthonyclick893
@@anthonyclick893 the stats might say that but i've watched his shooting slumps lose the game for them countless times this year. He didn't get benched cause he was too good.
I agreed with him 💯
LeBrun is playing for fun then
Lebron*
They never should've traded Wiseman
Crazy things always happens in a season unfortunately. The Warriors aren’t good enough to win , they gotta take huge decisions during offseason and rebuild their team
These Jokers are Crazy . The Warriors Dynasty aint over at all . The Warriors don't need to Break up the Big 3 . The Team this season had ZERO Depth and Key Pieces were Missing from the 2022 Champ Team .
The Warriors clearly haven't Replaced the Jordan Poole 6th Man Role . He was a Beast in that Role in 2022 . He Carried that Team so the Splash Bros could Rest in Games and close Games out alot Easier . Losing Iguadala's Leadership and Coaching hurt the Warriors this Season . He kept guys accountable in his Tenure there . Losing Ron Adams as Defensive Coach has hurt the Warriors . Losing a Good Assistant Head Coach like Mike Brown to a Rival Team as a Head Coach has hurt the Warriors. Wiggins really hasn't been that Great Two Way Player since 2022 . He has become a Head Case and Not reliable due to his personal Problems . CP3 was a Good Piece this Season , but his Load Management and Bloated Starter Salary just wasn't Justified on this team as a Bench Player . If he was playing for like 15 Milion or less I'd say bring him back on the Team . But not for 30 Million or more per Season. His Salary hurt the Warriors Depth options all Season Really .
The Warrors Clearly need Better Bench Depth , they need to convince Klay to sign back for 25 Million per Season .They need a Reliable 6th Man , and a 3rd Piece on the Top Unit . I say Keep this Team intact for the Most part . Get rid of CP3's Bloated Salary . Get of rid of Wiggins' Bloated Salary for a Couple of Solid Role players . Put Kuminga in Wiggins' spot . Trade for a Guy like a Alex Caruso to be that solid 2 Way 6th Man . The Warriors need a Player that Can Offset Centers like Jokic , Giannis , or Embiid . So bring in a Guy like a Myles Turner at Center that can Post up and Hit 3s well . Then go Draft a Guy to Back up Green so that if Green turns into a Head Case and Gets suspended again there's somebody similar there to play simlarly to Green.
Oh... you're the joker for thinking it's not over for all the reasons you just mentioned 😅😅
@@ronaldpatterson1701 I'm saying these are the moves that need to be Made at minimum , so not sure WTF you're talking about .
@Mysterio-hk9gj I clearly said it's over... just like you said, it's over unless they make all these moves at the minimum😅😅 My statement was clear, short, and concise! Don't get mad, just accept it. They had a great run, but all that sh*t you're talking bout is not going to happen😳🤯 And stop liking your own post... that's a very arrogant thing to do for writing some dumb bs😅😅
@@ronaldpatterson1701 I never said The Warriors Dynasty was over at all . The Moves I suggested are brilliant and needed . You have no Counter Moves to even offer , so Sit down . If they don't happen it's because Mike Dunleavy Jr is an incompetent GM . You said The Warriors dynasty was over and I disagree , So Control your own fingers on what BS you type , Chump . You wouldn't know the first thing how to fix this Team back to Title Contention . I can like my Own Ideas / Comment , it's a Free Country so deal with it .
@Mysterio-hk9gj You did by making all those suggestions genius!!! Someone's comprehension skills are very, very slow😅😅 And now I see why you're not a general manager of a bball team... keep your day job and flip them burgers slow one!!😳🤯 I see you still liked your own comment like a conceded *ss also😅😅 Keep liking them and give me material to roast your goofy *ss🤡🤡
He is speaking about loyalty which there is none in the front office.
3 out of 4 of these commentators are ridiculous. There’s a luxury tax that they don’t want to pay and Dray and Klays contracts are up. The dynasty is broken up for good. Ain’t no way they want to pay another 150mil in taxes just for a play in run.
You have been great all your career. The hair-stylists got it today! Nice look!!! And Of Course As Always - Great Points!
Every team has experienced a drop-off after their dynasty was done. Lakers, Spurs, Boston, Chicago and now it's the Warriors turn. No team stays great forever.
pretty good segment from all 4 👏👏
Time for the warriors to break up? More like time for joy to get rid of the 50's housewife haircut
Dubs need to move on with Dray, he doesn't want to win with Steph anymore, he wants to win with Bron, 🤷🤷🤷
Bruh people are just unrealistic nowadays. It's simple, like Rick said "Their mentality doesn't have to change, our mentality has to change" Steph and Bron are over the hill. Theyre still good, but they aren't carrying teams anymore. That time has passed. We as a public just need to appreciate them as they play out their careers. Like Messi and Ronaldo. 😂😂😂still good but nobody is expecting the same level of greatness
I genuinely think Kerr figured it out this second half. They were a Top 5 team in the whole league since January, one awful game doesn't erase that. I think they run it back, maybe run a bit more of the offense through Kuminga. Klay off the bench. I think they surprise people next year
Two more players 610 plus, Klay bench or trade. Trade a couple newbies, Wiggins out. Bigs with 3 point capabilities and inside prescence. Playoff contention a must. Cant go back, move forward. 20 per cent championship again at best.
I agree
I always felt so bad for Jordan Poole. So I think they deserve this. This is basketball karma.
You’re not the only person who thought this. 😃😃
I feel the same way. And to make Poole a villain! This loss was truly earned. Karma is a B.
It’s way more than poole being gone
Yup.
Agreed
1 fatal heart attack, vs steph curry's ankle injury LOL. WHAT A COMPARISON
Love this SHOW!!!!
The problem is Draymond. He is the most important player who helps and kills the warriors simultaneously. Its like having that guy you are crazily in love with who pipes you up beast mode in bed but terrible as a partner everywhere else. What do you do with such a person??? You cant live with or without until you find a better replacement.
Steph, Klay and Draymond were great while it lasted. It’s time to put another group around Steph and see what we can do. Love Klay and Dray and I say keep them unless u can put another star with Steph to see what u can get out of his last 2 or 3 years
Trade draymond+ kuminga for Mikal bridges or John Collins+sexton. Let Klay go, extend moody. Keep Wiggins and Chris paul maybe. Make trayce Jackson the permanent starting center. I’m telling you, curry needs somebody like Mikal bridges as his teammate.
Warriors are just so scared to let go of Klay Thompson, and also were so scared to let go of Draymond. This is like when the Lakers were so scared of letting go of Kobe after the 2010 championship. Warriors fans would have been willing to go through 3 or 4 black hole bottom and tanking seasons without 2 of the big 3 so they can rise up faster.
Playing for fun is CRAZY
I should not judge Klay Thompson...
Im focusing on the great contribution he had given to the team...
Everybody is subject to commit mistakes...
Kerr so bad that if you gave him a Lebron , wade, and ten more top rookies who turned out to be great. He would still stuggle as a coach. He just doesn't trust the young players. I blame the owners they allowed him to be this bad.
Please get Dreymond out of there he’s overrated
DG ruined a lot of this season with his foolishness! Klay did ok until he gets in his 5 year old mood! Poor Steph has his bum ankle! 😢
The last line of this segment is a huge factor which is why I believe the Warriors can win another championship.
Have that same energy for my grizzlies
Your paying them millions and you play them for FUN? Really slick rick?😂😂😂
Sign Klay, Trade Draymond & Wiggins. Steph, Klay, & Kuminga are the big 3 now.
Yo is this a bad trade klay and Wiggins to the heat for Emo jimmy and Rozier
Pg Steph
Sg Rozier
Sf Butler
Pf Kuminga
C Davis
After the warriors championship win. It's been way overdue Klay Thomas and Draymond Green should have been traded simple as that. Start over 🤣
Pretty sure if Drymond didn't miss 15 games they wouldn't be in that position
Pretty sure I’d Draymond didn’t hit Poole, yell at KD, fall for LeBron Trick and kept his emotions intact a lot of issues they wouldn’t have
As a lifelong Bay Area Warriors fan, I can say Fans will be turned off by Trading Klay. He's a Legend in Bay Area
Legends get traded all the time. Klay might not want to come back. You saw how he left at the end of the game. He might be tired of being reminded how great he used to be. Or maybe he wants money the organization isn't willing to pay. Warriors have been over the cap for ages and that's fine when their winning but who wants to pay top dollar for mid returns.
It’s crazy how people don’t mention that Jordan Poole trade.
Dray got suspend if not they could of been the 4th team with a few wins here n there
Can we honest about the Warriors dynasty? First and last rings came due to injuries (Cavs for first and Grizzlies for the 4th).
Rings 2 and 3 came when they had the 2nd best player in the world in KD. Pretending that there’s some magic still there to preserve is foolish
The dynasty was in question the moment Draymond punched Poole and certified as over the moment they signed Draymond to a 100m extension lol
That 22 ring was fools gold. Injuries have them a cakewalk to the finals that year where anything can happen. League is much better now too. Especially the West.
Then you would have to say the same when kd and klay got injured and they lost!
@@watkinsq9827 I’d agree with that as well
Joe Lacob ain’t giving no max contracts no more. Not to anyone of this current roster. If they wana keep Klay or Draymond and still contend for a chip, they gotta ship Wiggins and another player for an all star.
We need more than an all star we need a whole new dynamic
I agree with the expectation adjustment and it's time. They are late. It was written.
Acho has to keep throwing up those 'i'm under control of the powers that be' gang signs.
Slick Rick said he has more faith to the Warriors than the Lakers to move into the playoffs. 😂😂😂
If they’re not going to break up the big three; Kerr has to start playing the young players more and hopefully they can become more better. Still won’t compete for a championship and the big three has to take less play to stay together.
JJ jacket cold asl
Don't forget there division is the hardest that it's been. Which KD, LeBron, Kahwi, Then the Kings got better with Fox and company so it should be harder to win a championship
Bro said a billion dollar organization need to play for fun 🤣
If Golden State release Green they will not win another championship 🏆. He is the heart of that team even Coach Kerr agrees
Keep Curry 🍛, BP, Moody, TJD and Jonathan Kuminga.
Gotta do the Bill Walsh moves. Dwight Clark retired. Jerry Rice followed. Dump Dario Saric, Chris Paul, GP3, Gui Santos, Klay Thompson. Here, GSW must acquire 2 centers who are taller than 6 feet and 9 inches.
Next season starting five:
SC30
KT
Green
JK
Trayce
2nd 5:
CP3
Podz
Moody
Wiggs
Loon
Thats a recipe for another failed season.
Get rid of Draymond and develop Kuminga
The dynasty is over, no doubt about it. But whether to break up the Big 3 will ultimately depend on what they could get for Klay and Dray. If the warriors can get better pieces for these two that improve their championship chances, their management will likely do it, especially if Klay couldn’t agree to a much reduced pay package.
Maybe but he won't succeed in GS since they keep expecting him to be old Klay. They keep acting like nothings changed and expecting favorable results. If they used him as a bench scorer coming in and testing his shot. If he's hitting then let him run with it but when hes 0-5 probably a good idea to pull him before hes bloody 0-10. Kerr has too much faith in his vets from the dynasty doesn't seem able to judge the team properly.
@@MrArrow54 Absolutely agree. Kerr is obsessed with playing small ball and not giving sufficient court time to properly develop the younger players. Kerr is very much part of the centerpieces for the warriors dynasty, he will live and die by the trio. So probably time to move Kerr as well.
⚠️Evidently the producer, director and Chyron operator still wanted to believe the Warriors won. The lower 3rd cutbar said "WARRIORS DEF KINGS" for the entire segment!
Im a Dubs fan, but not sure if they truly sincerely mean that they are still competing for a championship. Not with the players, but from the front office standpoint. When they traded for Chris Paul (nothing against the hall of famer), then Celtic Traded for KP and Holiday, uh.... thats the move from the Warriors? really? does that make you feel they are trying the best to beef up the roster? no! thats a money move for Klay's new contract, amd maybe extension for JK and Moode. Trade deadline, nothing. Then the Mavs traded for Gafford and PJW jr, what?! thats the move Warriors should have made. Then later, the sign Quinones to a real nba contract. Ahhh.... almost forgot, they were also not willing to deal with Anunoby earlier as well. So we can all see a pattern. And these things to me doesnt give any chills at all, that the org still want to compete for another championship. They want wait it out until after the Big 3 retires. 2 yrs extension for Kerr solidifies this intention as well.
They dont have any prospects because Mark Jackson built that team. Kerr definitely proved himself to be a good coach, but team builder? No
There's another option: Trade the g(OLD)den state warriors core players for younger assets to rebuild for the future much like what the Boston Celtics did with Allen, Pierce, Garnett.
I love my Pats but we can't hold everyone to the standards of ending their career like Tom Brady. Tom is an alnost unattainable standard. He has more championships than every team in the entire sport. Tom redefined an entire age bracket ending his career. I can't just hold people to being that
is Ric a Warriors homer? he has a different tone when he talks about them than Lebron for example lol
He’s definitely a Warriors homer. 😃😃
Yes!
He used to be a warriors beat writer back in the day.
No, Ric is a Curry hater. There’s some beef and tension between ric and curry dating back to the time ric was a warriors sideline reporter 10+ years ago
Should have kept Poole!!!
Should have never paid Draymond. If this is Klays level ship him. Should have got Dwight this season
Yes, they should break them up! They had a great run. Dray or Da Da is unpredictable, there's no guarantee that he's not gonna get suspended next season, Klay, still trying to be old Klay and keep shooting the air out of the ball, putting his team into a deeper deficit, ppl fail to realize that Steph and Klay can not play together anymore, what's the point of having a five man line up with only one player can create his own shot?
Keep Dave on permanent. Favorite panelist offsetting general talk, with stats and depth. No diva attitude either!! 🎉🎉🎉
100%. Can't stand shady's attitude
This is the most difficult show to watch on FS1. Acho always sounds like he is preaching and not very authentic and yes too much general tlk not enough depth
Just curious not tryna debate. What did Shady do to make you both feel he has a bad attitude and is a diva?
Def need to keep Dave, but I enjoy his repor with Shady and the eagles/cowboys tension. Adds a fun dynamic I wish the show didn’t scrap
@@Yos_888 what? I like Shady. His Eagles side vs Dave cowboys side, when show first started was epic. Just want Dave back with Shady.
A segment burying a team that LITERALLY won a championship 2 years ago!!
WHAT ARE WE DOIN?!!👀
Dat’s what the media wants to do but why break up the struggles of the warriors
It was done last year😂
Everybody plays Curryball now and they're old. End of story.
My thing is you just can’t keep Wiggins and klay on the same team anymore like one has to go
That is why the media wants the warriors to lose because they can make headlines and stories with that and ppl loves it 😅
Reggie Miller went through what Curry is about to go through.
The warriors will be a top 6 seed next year. They were on a 50 win pace with full games Draymond played in. And that was with Klay struggling , Steph’s ankle, Wiggins only giving you 12 PPG, giving big minutes to two rookies. They’ll be fine.
They need a dominant big man
They missed the spurs analogy completely smh
If you don't break this line up they will not even make that play in next season, Klay is demanding a big contract and gsw does not want to give it to him, klay might play for Magic
Klay had bad game but so do most of the team
The warriors should start rebuilding now before the warriors becomes a lottery tea long term