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  • ‘It was a brutal experience to work for Harvey Weinstein'
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    Tina Brown was never sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein, however in 1998, she began a business partnership with Weinstein founding a new magazine following her success rebooting The New Yorker.
    She describes the experience as a "colossal mistake" and Weinstein as a brutal bully who abused and humiliated his staff and left Brown shell-shocked. The venture was dropped, and Brown's regret is that she didn't pull the plug as soon as she learned what Weinstein was like behind closed doors.
    Before you get into business with anyone, get to know who they are, advises Brown. Make phone calls to people who have worked with them in the past, and draw a line in the sand so you do not become roped into a bully's world.
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    TINA BROWN:
    Tina Brown is an award-winning journalist, editor, author and founder of the Women in the World summits. Between 1979 and 2017, she was editor-in-chief of Tatler, Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, and authored The Diana Chronicles and The Vanity Fair Diaries. Her podcast “TBD with Tina Brown” is available on Apple podcast.
    Check Tina Brown's latest book The Vanity Fair Diaries: Power, Wealth, Celebrity, and Dreams: My Years at the Magazine That Defined a Decade at amzn.to/2WnLozm
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    TRANSCRIPT:
    TINA BROWN: Well, in 1998, I left The New Yorker to go and work with Harvey Weinstein as a partner to launch a new magazine called Talk Magazine. Of course, looking back, could I have chosen a worse partner than Harvey Weinstein? But one forgets, what it's easy to forget, is that the Harvey Weinstein I went to work with was the Harvey Weinstein who had just done The English Patient, Shakespeare in Love, My Beautiful Laundrette-all of these wonderful movies where he had done something that I much admired, which is to take quality and actually force it to have the kind of commercial attention that normally quality just simply cannot win for itself. And that, I thought, was a very exciting idea, because having edited The New Yorker and turned it around, I knew how difficult it is to make quality commercial. So that was the appeal of going to work for Harvey. And of course, the Harvey who asked me to go and work for him, again, was super charming, super persuasive, super full of promises, et cetera.
    But within days of going to work with him, I knew I'd made the most colossal mistake, because the Harvey that you saw back at that seedy office in Tribeca was just a completely different human being to the one that was out there being charming and offering you the world. He was such a gross bully. I'd never seen people treated like the way Harvey treated people. I just had never seen it. Because in the end, publishing is quite a gentlemanly profession compared to what I was seeing with Harvey Weinstein. I mean, people could get angry or could get irritated or whatever. I'd never seen people bulled at, profanities shouted, humiliating. I just had never seen it. So I was sort of shell-shocked when I went to some first meetings with Harvey and I saw the way he treated his staff.
    Now, he didn't ever sexually harass me. I was not the kind of target that he was interested in. I mean, he liked sort of 22-year-old actresses and so on. So I was just not ever a target. But he did increasingly bully me. And it was very, very unsettling, because I found it both wounding and also just destabilizing. And he knocked me off my game, in a sense, by being so volatile that I never knew what he was going to say when I picked up the phone. And of course, in the end, he just pulled the plug on it as well, which was very, very unsettling and upsetting to me at the time. And it was a brutal experience, quite honestly, to work for Harvey Weinstein-not that I didn't learn things, because I did. Because he is the master promoter. And I saw how good he was at that. But it was at a price that everybody paid that was, of course, not worth it.
    Well, what I learned from working with Harvey was, first of all, you had to be very careful who you work for or work with. Honestly, I didn't do enough due diligence at all on the real Harvey. I think if had made six phone calls to people who actually had worked with him, inside his business, I would have not taken that job. Unfortunately, I didn't. I believed the hype, if you like. Or perhaps, I wanted to believe the hype...
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Komentáře • 157

  • @bigthink
    @bigthink  Před 4 lety

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  • @iAmNothingness
    @iAmNothingness Před 4 lety +62

    Harvey is only a small portion of the problem. It's the people AROUND HIM that make this whole thing possible.

    • @pinkimietz3243
      @pinkimietz3243 Před 4 lety +15

      Yeah, people like her.

    • @cerulean1808
      @cerulean1808 Před 4 lety +9

      And all the women who willingly played his game in order to get careers...

    • @sebastianelytron8450
      @sebastianelytron8450 Před 4 lety +5

      Harvey KNEW he could get away with it all, like there wasn't even the slightest risk. He knew the people who work in this industry are all of the same ilk, the men are philanderers and the women are skanks.

    • @iAmNothingness
      @iAmNothingness Před 4 lety +2

      @MGTOW & Bitcoin is Freedom You know exactly why shouldn't support him. Yet you do because either you want a career and money or you just don't care. Both of these things seem very egoistic to me.
      But hey it's fame and big money as long as you keep your mouth shut.
      "But I get it enjoy your day under the sun, SIMPs like yourself are digging your own grave and I'm okay with that."
      What is that? I don't understand your point.
      Absolutly not.
      I don't care if you want money and fame. If you support him you make this whole thing possible.
      Do you understand that? Even with my basic english you should. "Influence and Power". You know that his POWER comes from the people around you.
      Not because you say so. It's the people AROUND YOU that makes this shit possible.
      I absolutly do NOT understand a stupid argument like
      "If women want to prostitute themself it's fine by me".
      It IS NOT FINE BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT POSSIBLE.
      When do people like you and feminsts stop define themself by a stupid label?
      We're all humans. These labels turn off your brain. Seriously. MGTOW is exactly the same as feminists. It's like children fighting each other in the most stupid act i've seen in my life. And i've seen alot of stupid shit and stupid people.
      But that Argument about "women prostituting themself is fine by you"
      is probably the most stupid thing i've read on the internet ever. Even more stupid than my grammar.

    • @nnveepathlight9528
      @nnveepathlight9528 Před 4 lety +1

      Actually it is the system that sustained him and the numerous men in the industry just like him. But keep making excuses for that @$$hole and all the other @$$holes just like him.

  • @rnr4204
    @rnr4204 Před 4 lety +25

    What I learned from this video: this woman turned a blind eye to what Harvey was doing for money.

    • @8Seboo
      @8Seboo Před 4 lety +3

      I doubt that. Such a smart and selfish person can be deceiving to most normal and good people.

    • @rationalmartian
      @rationalmartian Před 4 lety +2

      Holee crap S. Are you being remotely serious?
      You seriously think she was merely some poor, gullible pawn, being blown around by the Monster, giving her NO choice.
      FFS, she comes out and as good as admits it, whilst playing it down and minimising it.
      I think maybe you are deceiving yourself. Or you are simply as dumb as stump and even more credulous.
      Why do you absolve her of any knowledge or guilt?

    • @8Seboo
      @8Seboo Před 4 lety +1

      @@rationalmartian I don't absolve her of any guilt. I'm saying if weinstein was as powerful as i think he was, she literally couldn't have done anything.
      I think you're the naive one here, believing that people are not above the law.

  • @WR4SSE
    @WR4SSE Před 4 lety +68

    "I knew straight away"- how long did you choose to work for him after that?

    • @ph0522
      @ph0522 Před 4 lety +14

      I second that question.

    • @noteimportatenteras5605
      @noteimportatenteras5605 Před 4 lety +10

      For the same reasons she worked with him, now It is leaving the boat. She is just taking advantage of the situation.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower Před 4 lety +4

      I think we all guessed, i know i did, that harvey didnt try to sleep with this woman,lets be real.. i knew it was going to be a rich naive woman who doesnt notice the malepig being a malepig because money blinded her common sense like most people talking and sexing with him.. they look thru him and subconsciously only think about money primarily. sad

    • @mrdinx
      @mrdinx Před 4 lety +6

      Thanks for keeping your mouth shut and enabling this monster, toots.

  • @thenumber1Doc
    @thenumber1Doc Před 4 lety +37

    Isn’t she brave speaking up now 20+ years later and after he has been convicted and sent to prison.
    What an inspiring strong independent woman. NOT!

    • @seeyouagain911
      @seeyouagain911 Před 4 lety +1

      Nobody said she was brave. You need to calm down. I'm guessing you're not happy that a rapist has been caught.

    • @SeanOBrien77
      @SeanOBrien77 Před 4 lety +4

      And after she made all of the money...

  • @pinkimietz3243
    @pinkimietz3243 Před 4 lety +58

    "Ii knew he was a monster but I kept my mouth shut because money."

    • @wimahlers
      @wimahlers Před 4 lety +3

      "I condemn without scrutiny because anonymous superficial judgmental internet couch logic."

    • @ph0522
      @ph0522 Před 4 lety +2

      @@wimahlers he's right though.

    • @wimahlers
      @wimahlers Před 4 lety +2

      Who is right about what?
      Please clarify.

    • @rosag1788
      @rosag1788 Před 4 lety +1

      Victim blaming, why don't you ask yourselves to act normal persons and not like animals, so women can work and show their talents without having to pay for it with their dignity. It's that hard for you stopping to be irrational beings and monsters?

    • @tunim4354
      @tunim4354 Před 4 lety +1

      'and now that there is money in speaking out about this thing, I will no longer stay quiet, because money'

  • @stewartfraser5357
    @stewartfraser5357 Před 4 lety +25

    The usual intro with its light hearted music seems really out of place on this one

    • @mutalix
      @mutalix Před 4 lety +4

      lol yea felt tht too.

    • @kenkenobi9448
      @kenkenobi9448 Před 4 lety +3

      @paul w yeah not because it's their theme music🤦‍♂️

    • @kenkenobi9448
      @kenkenobi9448 Před 4 lety +2

      @paul w ever heard of being paranoid??

  • @adamfirst3772
    @adamfirst3772 Před 4 lety +34

    its all good when they are benefitting from abusive people... by being accomplicess, empowering them, and riding their coat-tails...
    but now, it benefittng them to be kicking the same person... so they kick!!

    • @truetech4158
      @truetech4158 Před 4 lety +3

      After studying sociology, and then reading what you wrote there, it would be interesting to read you explain how you don't display sociopathic underpinnings. For you to have apparently chosen to react with such vacancy towards you wanting to refer the victims instead as viewed as being accomplices as you put it. Shall we begin?

    • @ph0522
      @ph0522 Před 4 lety +6

      @@truetech4158 I will. People of the same sort interested in corrupt power, will f*** each other over in order to win. Its a lose lose game, even the person at the top. The accusers are equally as corrupt as the accused.

    • @truetech4158
      @truetech4158 Před 4 lety +3

      @@ph0522 I have memories of things such as being repeatedly punched in the face at age 7, while being whispered to shut up in between each of those punches. I didn't turn in my older brother to the parents for it.
      What if i eventually decided now since we're older, to report him? He actually ripped me off for piles of money and there is proof to verify that. If i were to turn him in, does that make you feel that i'm equally as corrupt, or are you able to understand that delayed reactions are sadly very commonplace in examples of where victimized people have been marginalized by sociopaths who managed to keep their targets living in fear?
      Tina Brown was never interested in wanting to be involved with a corrupted power.
      She no doubt experienced a form of shell shock. Can you understand that perhaps?

    • @Twinrehz
      @Twinrehz Před 4 lety +1

      First of all, you underestimate people's sheer force of will to stick with their choice, even when they see what it brings

    • @truetech4158
      @truetech4158 Před 4 lety

      @@Twinrehz I'd be interested in hear who they chose to vote for politically, however already rather certain of that.

  • @antoinem.al-aziz3521
    @antoinem.al-aziz3521 Před 4 lety +11

    This woman worked in NYC and never heard profanity or bullying? BS, I worked on Wall Street for a few firms after grad school and for several fortune 50s afterwards and that kind of treatment and language is nearly the norm. She's either lying or was too high up to really be bothered and care to look and listen to staffers around her.

    • @maxabeles
      @maxabeles Před 4 lety +1

      Ha, she said she was around people swearing at her old job. Cmon...

  • @RockawayCCW
    @RockawayCCW Před 4 lety +3

    "Knocked me off my game." That's what bullies and narcissists do and why it's so important to stay away from them.

  • @insertpienow
    @insertpienow Před 4 lety +19

    it is a pity you did not make as much noise before.........

  • @lucamarcellino3498
    @lucamarcellino3498 Před 4 lety +10

    This is sad to think people can go to jail without evidence

    • @majatadic549
      @majatadic549 Před 4 lety +3

      I hope you don't have a wife or sister or daughter but imagine your mother come to you saying she was raped or harrased by her boss or superior. Then, imagine saying to her: "Sorry, but I need evidence". What a disgrace and disappointment of a man and son you are!!

    • @majatadic549
      @majatadic549 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jackschitt1709 I don't consider "people" the one who needs more evidence than testemony of hundreds of woman this monster harrased! But if you're guy I don't expect you to understand. You're all alike apparently, ready to defend that pig!

    • @eyykendrick
      @eyykendrick Před 4 lety +1

      Jack Schitt. You see how it’s not nice to imagine a loved one being raped? That’s exactly the point they’re trying to make

    • @lucamarcellino3498
      @lucamarcellino3498 Před 4 lety

      I now it’s so horrible to not believe someone because the made a claim

    • @lacarpetronpinkerton9114
      @lacarpetronpinkerton9114 Před 4 lety

      @@majatadic549 simp

  • @LOUDMOUTHFLAVORS
    @LOUDMOUTHFLAVORS Před 4 lety +15

    I'm sure it was brutal as you cashed all those checks from him. In other words lady, you are a liar! You made money and that's why you stayed.

    • @suparnasingh1
      @suparnasingh1 Před 4 lety +4

      your statement Explains, how the majority of women make money. The others just don't ,

    • @deekasman5018
      @deekasman5018 Před 4 lety +1

      Can’t understand why you’re blaming her for him being a dick

    • @tunim4354
      @tunim4354 Před 4 lety +1

      The only ones who accused him of being a rapist were the ones who couldn't become successful or make money out of using him. People won't see complicit behavior even if it slapped them on the face.

  • @RichLuciano1
    @RichLuciano1 Před 4 lety +3

    Harvey showed up why people sleep their watch the top. However, there are worse people than him. They're targeting younger people than media prospects. Do you disagree?

  • @twoforty252
    @twoforty252 Před 4 lety +10

    Making excuses to justify your past actions, you are complicit

  • @edoziesylvester9039
    @edoziesylvester9039 Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent, never compromise your Family for nobody, even for your Boss 👍

  • @corra7
    @corra7 Před 2 lety +1

    If he was that creepy why not protect others from him.

  • @ybbok
    @ybbok Před 4 lety +3

    It's not difficult to stand up to bullies. It just depends on your character!

  • @mactastic144
    @mactastic144 Před 4 lety +1

    Must of been not brutal enough to not work for him.

  • @luljetasali6584
    @luljetasali6584 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow I rather sit on a side walk and wait someone to drop a penny than work for a man like HW

  • @xahra4846
    @xahra4846 Před 4 lety +5

    She’s very realistic . Taking responsibility for her actions and admitting that she made a mistake working for him.

    • @SeanOBrien77
      @SeanOBrien77 Před 4 lety +3

      Sure, once she's made all of the money... convenient.

  • @shauniebnaturalista6672
    @shauniebnaturalista6672 Před 4 lety +1

    If you had drawn the more lines in the sand, the relationship would have ended sooner. Good for you that your children came first!

  • @hyperspacejester7377
    @hyperspacejester7377 Před 4 lety +2

    This comment section says it all! We aren't buying your bullshit "BIG THINK"! 😆

  • @AtlasReburdened
    @AtlasReburdened Před 4 lety +4

    Apparently it was so bad you decided to wait decades to do anything about it. I mean, for the love of god, at any point you could have sent a cheap stripper in pretending to be "interviewing" with a hidden camera in a purse. Where was all this rightious indignation back when it actually mattered?

  • @jessebob325
    @jessebob325 Před 4 lety +3

    It's hard to say if this is a PSA or just damage control? This information is better than nothing I guess.

  • @DracRummins
    @DracRummins Před 4 lety +3

    Where’s the evidence? Your words aren’t good enough.
    Dude’s a Saint

  • @DouwedeJong
    @DouwedeJong Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for making this video.

  • @WolfetoneRebel1916
    @WolfetoneRebel1916 Před 4 lety

    I’m incredulous at people down voting a video like this; now, even with everything out in the open...

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower Před 4 lety

      Because this channel pushes a myth narrative, very often.. and commenters being allowed unlike pbs shows the truthtalkers win in the end of bs myth topics like gender pay gap

  • @BarryAllen-xg4pj
    @BarryAllen-xg4pj Před 4 lety +7

    WahWahWah
    Someone fix this rusty trombone.

  • @asattar2007
    @asattar2007 Před 4 lety

    Now?

  • @OdditiesandRarities
    @OdditiesandRarities Před 4 lety +2

    what kind of person sits and waits for a meeting to start for 1hour 30minutes?? after 5pm as well? She's got to be the biggest push over in the world.

    • @patriciaatkinson2435
      @patriciaatkinson2435 Před 4 lety +1

      So you would never do this? Serious question. Is there any situation where you have decided to put up with this type of circumstance? Is there nothing that would cause you to do this? Do you mind sharing what type of job you have?

  • @shaikthegangsta
    @shaikthegangsta Před 4 lety

    Tai lopez ur a troll... just cos ur ad is running ...

  • @thesnipingseal8011
    @thesnipingseal8011 Před 4 lety

    Harvey Weinstein reminds me of the lawyer in the bee movie who got stun in the ass and faked needing a walker for court

  • @All.Gravy96
    @All.Gravy96 Před 4 lety +2

    Now that there is no money coming in, it’s okay to trash him.
    These people are so fake.

    • @RichLuciano1
      @RichLuciano1 Před 4 lety +1

      This is going to sound harsh. There were millions of people still consuming Hollywood entertainment until COVID-19 curved that. Many of whom still are. It seems like everyone is fake.

  • @hadihassan372
    @hadihassan372 Před 4 lety

    i'm sure the world leaders or the untouchables lead similar lives thinking who is going to question them

  • @sambo7499
    @sambo7499 Před 3 lety

    Tina Brown, the poor victim😂

  • @jainorman3425
    @jainorman3425 Před 4 lety

    We will always support Harvey

  • @AbrahamLincoln4
    @AbrahamLincoln4 Před 4 lety +1

    Brutal experience for Union soldiers to work for me. And a brutal experience to be President.

  • @BrianGallas
    @BrianGallas Před 4 lety +3

    So can you tell us what exactly made him hard to work with? 🤦‍♂️ Dumb video...

  • @markkravitz4678
    @markkravitz4678 Před 3 lety

    ✌️ Nothing is impossible, the word itself says “I’m possible”! The best young entrepreneur ever @evenkingsfall (his insta) stresses you have to THINK BIG to WIN BIG! Always keep that energy! Onwards and upwards 🙏

  • @bnfox
    @bnfox Před 4 lety +1

    so....quit

  • @lacarpetronpinkerton9114

    You poor thing.

  • @Wardog01Actual
    @Wardog01Actual Před 4 lety +1

    So what did YOU do to fix the problem? Nothing? Financial security more important? It MIGHT have been better if you did more? Now THAT'S Big Think.

  • @netabaughman3079
    @netabaughman3079 Před 4 lety

    Yeah, i wish i would of walked before being injured

  • @maa6471
    @maa6471 Před 4 lety +3

    he has corona now less gooooo!

  • @seeyouagain911
    @seeyouagain911 Před 4 lety

    In the words of Nsync Bye Bye Bye!

  • @conservos2349
    @conservos2349 Před 4 lety

    I heard he got the virus right after he showed up in prison.

  • @NOT-A-BAD-GUY
    @NOT-A-BAD-GUY Před 4 lety +1

    But he didn't do anything wrong, someone tell me what he did to deserve going to jail?

  • @azurbleu4335
    @azurbleu4335 Před 4 lety +1

    How long that Inspiring strong independent woman worked for Dear Harvey ? AHAAA And now , she giving advices AHAAAAMERICA . She 'd write a book : Pick your boss for dummies

  • @jayboston9620
    @jayboston9620 Před 4 lety +1

    & yet ya stayed....& Got Paid...?? Odd,
    You’re just as Bad Lady.

  • @Mog435
    @Mog435 Před 4 lety

    Must say I’m an older guy who owns a toilet tissue company 😬

  • @unaninanine3743
    @unaninanine3743 Před 4 lety +1

    I have zero sympathy for you. Serves you right 😊

  • @exoluh6097
    @exoluh6097 Před 4 lety +1

    First

  • @bonecanoe86
    @bonecanoe86 Před 4 lety +2

    suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuureeeeeeeeee..............

  • @gmaltruista724
    @gmaltruista724 Před 4 lety

    SHOULDA COME OUT SOONER, OLD GIRL! NOW WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR APOLOGY VIDEO AFTER HE'S BEEN FOUND GUILTY!

  • @maribrenner2232
    @maribrenner2232 Před 4 lety +1

    No one cares, irrelevant whatever!! Why'd you wait so long?? Go away!!