Vantrue N4 Dash Cam | Full Hardwire Install
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- čas přidán 24. 03. 2021
- Vantrue kindly sent me one of their N4 systems to install in my own car rather than giving away like I did with the last one! In this video I document a step-by-step procedure to hardwire in the dash cam. I'd like to say a massive thanks to Liverpool Auto Care for doing the install for me, and I'm glad I went to them as the problem we found was easily fixed.
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"What're we gonna do with the instructions?...bin them" Yup, Ashley is confirmed 100% bloke.
Lewis has recently done all of my campervan electrics, which included a rear view camera. I can confirm, that Lewis is thoroughly professional in his approach to his customers and work. I would recommend him to anyone who needs an auto electrician. 👍
That's also why I go to Lewis 👍🏼
After watching this vid, Ashley, I spoke to Lewis and asked him to install a dash cam to my van, when he does the final fix electrics on the campervan. You certainly influenced my decision, thanks for posting the video and also the post fit review. 👍
I am a very fussy guy when it comes to my stuff, especially my vehicles. So I always do anything and everything to them to save taking them to the garage, because people just don't take pride in their work anymore, they do sloppy work, they are rough with vehicles, they are messy, etc. But after watching Lewis, and how respectful he is and how good of a job he done, I can say that he is a professional at what he does. Great job Lewis.
This is the exact reason I do every bit of maintenance and repairs myself, even if it’s supposed to be under warranty. I don’t trust anyone but me touching my vehicles!
I never even thought of wiring it through the rubber seals round the doors either. I've got cables all over the place (and in the wrong places!) And not even installed the rear camera incase I damage something. Thanks Ashley and Lewis for a great video!
You've motivated me to find a pro auto care shop to wire mine in!
I hardwired mine last week, not the easiest job but with a bit of research it's doable. I decided to go for the Viofo A119 v3 after trawling the forums for some guidance and I'm pretty happy with it so far.
A nice tidy job by Lewis.
Look forward to a review.
Looks a nice setup.👌👍
Brilliant stuff - I always do my installs myself, but this put my mind at rest, as I always thought I did something wrong...
Great Vid Ashley after watching this I think I will get the experts to hard wire a dash cams into my car. .
Different kind of video, very enjoyable!
Especially on the Dashcam you accidently didn't give to me!😂
Nice install vid. Thanks for sharing! That chap Louis was brilliant! Seems to know his way around that A-class
Viewer Reminder: Always a good idea to test to see if the camera(s) work before routing and also with any supplied hardwire kits. Last thing you want to do it undo all the routing work after finding the kit was busted.
More of an issue for people who have to rely on the kit rather than knowing how to fix it.
Hello from Costa Rica! thanks a lot for uploading this video. It has been really educational for me. I will be trying the procedure to install that same dashcam by myself.
I love your dash cam video’s, I currently have a NextBase 522GW with rear camera also hardwired. Looking forward to your review as I will consider possible upgrades in the future.
This video gave me the courage to remove some of the plastic trim to be able to hardwire mine. I would have been way to nervous to get that physical with those panels. Thanks!
That's really interesting thanks. I've got my dashcam just plugging into the ciggy lighter just for the ease of it but if I ever upgrade to a multi camera system and/or get a newer car I might look at getting it hardwired in having seen how it's done. I'd have previously been concerned about invalidating any warranty on a nearly new car but I think this puts my mind at rest.
That Mercedes A class seems like a really nice car and Lesley a great bloke!
Great video... dreading needing to do this for my motorbike.
Brilliant in-depth content . As a mechanic myself i always appreciate when a company does things the right way even if it takes longer to do.
Need to get myself a dash cam now tbh.
Lewis needs his own TV show.
Very informative video 👌🏽 planning to do this myself
Amazing camera angles! The one pointing at the back of the guy's head really helped me. /s
Thanks for that Ashley, I never knew what it took to hardwire a dash cam to a car. Getting a new car later this year so would definitely consider hardwiring a cam to that car, just need a new dash cam also, my old camera is past it's best
I've just had my BlackVue hardwired into the car. The parking mode and live view is awesome. Bad parkers beware!
Every town needs a "Lewis" Thanks for the nice install and the great tips.
Interesting video. Tells me I did the right thing having mine professionally installed 😃. I was primarily interested in the hard wiring aspect and how it was done. Once things got into the fuse box, that's where I wouldn't have known what to do. I, too, would have been worried I would break something and have to spend more fixing that. Thanks.
That's the fastest talking i have heard from Ashley ever 👍
I still don't understand why dashcam makers are so keen on putting all the electronics into the spot behind the mirror, this formfactor is out of date.
Surely now that we are getting these systems with multiple cameras it would be better to have the recorder/screen as a separate device that you plug the cameras into, like a small NVR? This way you could make the camera units very small and the cables running to them smaller. It would also mean that cameras could be changeable, so if I wanted a water proof camera for outside the car, or a wider field of view I could just swap them.
If you made the recorder box a little larger you could add a 4 inch screen and a 2.5 inch SSD for storage, and record weeks of footage instead of hours.
@@Fazer_600 At the moment you are needing to run to the middle of the windscreen the power to run two cameras, the lcd and the power for CPU to compress the video/audio and write it to disk (and often the power to charge the built in battery/capacitor). If you have a third camera you also need to run that connection up there to do the same, this lead is often thicker to avoid any losses in the cable as it also has to carry power to the rear camera, so the camera could be much smaller.
With my solution you would only need to run as much power as needed to power the camera all the hardwork would be handled by the recorder box. You would also move the bulky bits of the system to another location so you could run a 4 inch screen and even add an SSD for recording (microSD cards are too unreliable).
If an insurance company wanted to build this into their 'black boxes' you could even run a data cable to the OBD2 port to read what the car was doing if/when it has an accident. But that may start to get complicated/expensive, better to just have the recording box that does it all for you.
This solution would also mean that the same recorder could be used for cars, lorries, buses and motorcycles, so long as you could find somewhere dry. A cab driver could have the box difficult to access (under the bonnet?) so if they had a runner they couldn't just rip the camera off the screen and take the evidence with them.
@@gordon861 Another option would be for the car manufacturers to respond to the trend for dash cams by putting a USB port in the rearview mirror cluster/a piece of trim nearby. So many cars these days have a sensor cluster there anyway for auto-wipers and headlights, maybe a hands-free mic as well, so the cable run is done. Adding an extra power run plus a USB-C port up there would cost no more than a couple of quid at manufacture, but allow end-users to power a dash cam with a ~6 inch cable, rather than a 6 foot one. Potentially the same on the boot. To me, that should be the approach on even base models.
Premium model cars by this point should have fully integrated recording systems. Throw a camera in that cluster, if you don't already have cameras everywhere (a la Tesla) (the sensor tech has more or less matured now, I wouldn't expect to see huge leaps in the sensors used over the lifetime of the car - unless they really skimped out in the first place), SSD based recording system integrated with the in-car entertainment. Integrate various other information (possibly beyond even what is available via OBD-II), such as acceleration/braking, indicator & lights status, speed, maybe the various driver-assistance tools in a modern vehicle.
Of course, none of that helps those of us who can't afford a new car, in which case I definitely agree there'd be a market for your proposed design (if SSD prices didn't push unit prices too high). My car has a couple of cubby-holes just under the front footwells that would be perfect for housing such a system.
@@nowillnoway I've seen some cars with axillary circuits in the boot that are wired to the ignition, so they could also be used. But I totally agree, car manufacturers should be doing more, so many cars are starting to have cameras to detect speed limits and lanes there's really no reason these cameras couldn't be utilized as a dashcam.
The only problem with this approach is privacy and how much information you want to make available that could be used against you should the police decide to go on a fishing expedition. At the moment, if you have an accident the footage may be available and it's also 'your footage' and you have control of the level of detail that is recorded. I like to have the choice of how much data is recorded
My helmet cam does not have GPS and my dash cam doesn't record the footage with the speed readout on the image, this is a conscious decision by me not to make this information easily available. Should anyone want to calculate the speed it's possible from the footage but it'll require a lot more work and there will be an element of error in the calculation that could be argued should the need arise. I do, on occasion, allow my speed to creep a little high on the bike when conditions permit (most riders do, including the off duty police that I have discussed it with). The last thing you need is to be pulled over and the footage being seized and used as evidence because it has the numbers right there on the screen, I would rather make them prove the case than have my own footage dob me in.
I think I've already heard of issues in the US where the argument is going along the lines of who owns the data that your car records and does the car company have the right to download and monetise the information when you go in for a service without your express agreement, or do the police need a warrant to take the data. Data tracking is just going to keep becoming a bigger problem as we go forward with more computing power added to cars.
as majority of cars on the road already has reversing cams, I'd like to think that manufacturers will eventually add front cam and recording function for a true "black box" experience.
I was thinking a similar thing for battery powered cams - None of my cameras even have displays - the cycliq fly 12 and fly 6 and the Drift Ghost X and Drift Ghost XL. All are bricks however because they have about 4 hours battery life... would be amazing if you could pack the battery and hardware separate to the camera sensor, and then just attach a much smaller item in your cockpit/to your helmet etc which is sensibly wired through to the hardrive/computer and battery.
it's a nice camera. i got one after it was recommended to me by my country equivelent of the DVLA
I will never tire of the warmth scousers show one another.
Not just one another they are friendly to us outside delivery drivers also. Had tea and toast the other day on a delivery in stoneycroft. 👌
@@Jonc25 oh aye, I'm from Leeds, have only been to Liverpool twice, but last time I proposed to my partner there and the whole trip just found every scouser we encountered to be an absolute bobby dazzler. Like a whole city has managed to have its personality stats bumped up.
@@MiseEnZheng Leeds folk are pretty good to me, but the roads by the university do my nut in. and it's not fun when it snows. 👍
Wow nice great job!
This is why you test everything works before installing.
Not always easy to return cables if you've snipped the ends off! 🤣
I'm hopefully doing an autoelectrician apprenticeship soon, this was super helpful, thank you!
Nice set up
Isn't the Cable Kit for the permanent power? So when you're in park mode it still records what's goin on. What was wrong with the Cable? For what I understand Lewis connected to the Ignition fuse. So if you turn it off the Park Mode will not work. Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you. Oh yeah and I learned what you learned too. Thanks Lewis and thank you too for sharing this Video.
Great video
That was ingenious . Multiple reasons there why a trained specialist is maybe the route to go with installing items like cameras . Looking forward to the review . As a first question with heated screens does this interfere in any way with the camera fittings or performance . There would be no way I would attempt this . Professional fitter definitely. That’s why they are trained . 👍
You mentioned power cut-off when battery voltage drops below 11.6V.
On my dash cam (Alpine DVR-C320S), that threshold is actually adjustable.
Very interesting 👌 also I have B class the sistem are almost same but the instalation I did it normal not connected to "mother board " just straight to cigarette hole
I wish USB sockets for dashcams should be pre-wired into cars these days. Except for Tesla and I think Citroen I'm surprised the manufacturers haven't got them as options.
Great video, thanks.
I have though one question, why haven't you connected the dashcam to a constant fuse so that it runs even when the ignition is off? To my knowledge, the electricity consumption is very low so it shouldn't drain out your car battery
Having recently won this exact model of dashcam I was in two minds about installing it myself.
I've now decided to engage the services of an expert. I might be tempted to rig up a secondary 🚬 lighter specifically for this as my fuse box is under the bonnet and the original wiring is almost fifty years old 🤔. The original fb was known to have "issues"....... even more reason to get the expert on the case.
Not sure when this will happen though as lockdown has put all restoration work back by several months 😿😿😿.
Thanks for this upload. It's really helped me decide which way to proceed. Good job Ash 👍
I'm terrible for breaking stuff with my sledge hammer hands.😄
@@Jonc25 Now then Jezza.....
"Come on..... come ooooonnn!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@grahamnutt8958 🤣😂
@@grahamnutt8958 Honestly Graham i took rear door panel off to see if i could get window working, ended up taking it to the garage.
Mechanic said after who the F@£k has been messing with this, had to replace most of the door card clips. 😬
@@Jonc25 Whoops!! 🤣lmao
Thanks for the install video, I have the non suction cup mount and have never adhered anything to my window before. So it has a strip to peel off on the mount unit, and a stand alone pad and peels off on both sides, my question, Is that an extra mounting pad? Or does that go on the window first? Thanks
Thanks for the video.
Can you share the link to where to buy the UNIVERSAL CAR CIGARETTE SOCKET that you have used to connect to the ignition fuse, please!
Running to the rear camera in my A5 was a nightmare, gave up and going to try again soon.
My plan, if I ever get around to doing it, is to just run a second camera in the back, only need to run a live from the front then as you should be able to take the earth from the back of the car.
@@gordon861 seems like overkill, and don’t you want the front and rear to be synced. It was really easy on my old A5, used a length of plastic strip and found a clear run from front to back in the head liner. On the new A5 just can’t get the strip through.
Good Review
I always wanted one of those ghost II systems, and the dash cam! Nice video, although, maybe once we can travel I can book in!
You should!
@@ashley_neal well I’ve never been to Liverpool so I may spend a few days while installation is happening.. thanks for the video! How do you find the operation of the camera? Also just bought the Camera!
@@markplenty2631 You sure should Great City, has lots to see and do, when permitted! Liverpool Auto Care isnt far from the centre.
@@willow43 thanks for the info, prob gonna leave it until the autumn and then that way I can know for sure we’re all good but I’m excited to see what I can find to do!
In one of my parents car they had a system that would turn off the fuel pump after a mile or so. It was a hidden switch to disable it but if the car was stolen the car would get a little distance then start bleeping a warning at you, if you didn't hit the hidden switch the pump would switch off and you aren't going anywhere, the system would reset every time the car was turned off. Most car thieves would just abandon a car that stops in the middle of the road rather than try and work out what was wrong with it, it would also be far enough away that they couldn't threaten you so that you'll tell them how to restart the car.
It's worth noting that you need a large capacity memory card with the N4 to get a days worth of driving recorded. I'm using a 128GB Samsung Endurance card and it's OK for about 6 hours
it would make sense for car manufacturers to install these at the factory where it could be more integrated to the mirror, less visible and less obscuring of the view through the windshield.
Unfortunately I screwed up today installing my n4 today and wanted to save you all the trouble. I did a perfect install with hiding all cables neatly along with the hardwiring. The rear cam cord had several feet extra. Me being and idiot cut the excess wire to splice it back together. It was a usb c so unfortunately it had several little wires in it and I could not re connect the wire. I’ll have to buy a shorter usb c to usb c and redo the entire wire from back to front in the car. Painful.
Other advice. When hardwiring, put the fuse that’s already in the footwell fuse box into the fuse connector, so the connector will appear to have 2. It took quite a bit of force for me to get it to work, but it did get in eventually.
If vantrue is reading this I would love a new usbc to usbc lol.
That hard wire kit is good for protecting your vehicle when the ignition is off and records movement near your vehicle when your away. How would that dash cam be getting power to record any of that?
How does the parking mode work? Does it automatically go into parking mode when it senses no motion or do I need to press a button every time? I have hardwired mine to constant power
With this configuration, it seems that the camera will shut down when the car is parked (unless it runs off an independent battery in the camera). Could you discuss "parking mode" installs.
Also, is it an option to run the camera off it's own fuse by finding a space in the fuse box rather than piggy backing of an existing one?
On your second point. It isn't piggy backing off of another fuse. Instead it is running on its own fuse, but splits an existing fuse socket into two. The original fuse runs separately to the dashcam fuse. Both devices fused independently.
It'd be far too difficult to run a new fuse from the fusebox, even if there's a free spot, as there would no way for the car to decide when to power the socket. You'd also need some kind of relay to trigger/switch the fuse on and off.
I've ran the fuse socket splitter that Ashleys used for years, for dashcams, amplifier trigger wires and the such.
You can actually use an empty slot on some vehicles, as long as they have ignition power to them. However, you may also need a constant 12V which usually would be indicated by a yellow wire. If this is the case, the Camera will use the car battery for power and most will monitor the battery level and shut it off if it gets too low. In the scenario the camera doesn't have the yellow wire, the camera usually has an internal battery used for the parking mode.
@@LukeGuitarSmith I never saw why they did not use the hardwire kit he brought. I saw that the kit supplied by vantrue was sensitive to what side the fuse got power on. That makes sense otherwise the lowe power cutoff relay could not work. If no power output was the reason the kit was scrapped might have been due to this very issue. But I'm just guessing.
Awesome video! I got a 2019 & 2022 Merz and I was concerned about the parking mode and hardware kit I had to watch this. Why didn’t you go with the OBD to USB-C option? My issue is with bare wires and fuses burning faster, dead battery or triggering warnings light.
It’s good to have professional friend you can trust and knows what you want done. By the way, nice transitions! This video is on repeat.
Great video. Can anyone recommend me someone tried and tested in London to do this exact job? Am tempted to try it myself but also want a backup plan! Thx.
Hello. DO you know if the Rear camera is Water Proof? or if the input is compatible with those generic rear cameras that are actualy Water Proof?
Isn't the wire kit for using a fuse which is always on? Because only then the parking mode will work when nobody is there? And the wire kit turns off the cam if the battery is low.
Do the door seals on a 2018 Nissan Altima pull off like that? I don't want to try and find out they're glued on!
what kind of hardwire do you prefer ?, since you have 3 types.
1. the hardwire through the fuse box.
2. the hardwire through the battery.
3. The hardwire through the OBD plug.
I used to fit my own car stereos and power the amplifier from the battery. Taking power from the fuse box is much easier 👍🏼
Hi , did you connect it to the batt fuse or to the ignition on ? I am confused about that, how can it record when car is parked if you don’t give it live power ?
Hi. I have bought this camera. Just keen to know how that hardwire kit work for parking when engine is off and car left un attended. Basically i fixed as constant power supply gor my parking headache. Please update how i can do that while keeping battery safe and G sensor is working.
The ghost system sounds good, but how will it work with pupils driving your car - won’t they have to know the code to start the car?
This is why you check your connections before running the wires
Hey,
1. on motion detection/ parking mode, does it start recording only when it detects motion or few seconds before?
2. Is this with audio?
I don't know about you guys, but The Macho Man is even more confused on how to hardwire after watching this video! Oooooooooooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahh! Dig It!
I see you wired the dash cam hardwire kit to a switched power source. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the point of this cameras hardwire kit to have power always available so parking mode can be used? I just did mine this morning and in the vantrue instructions says pretty much that. After Installion the directions " you might find yours in the bin".
What's the recommended low end price I should pay for a good enough dash cam? I see they start at £30, will that be awful?
I have a motorcycle dash cam in my car. 2 cameras. One front. One rear. The cameras are very discreet and the dvr is tucked away in the glove box.
Seems like mine is also faulty. It doesn’t stay on when I turn off my ignition, currently is piggybacking off the lighter socket, also tried it with the central locking fuse. How do I fix this? Thank you.
I've had this Vantrue N4 since December 2020, and I've only been using it with the 12v lighter cable that came with the unit, which seems to have just died on me.
I've confirmed the lighter plug in the car still has power, so I'm sure it's the power cable that came with the dash cam.
I have the hardwire kit to try out, but seeing that the one in this video was dead on arrival, I'm a bit skepitcal about trying it now.
Also, it only seems to have a Ground and an ACC wire. If it's wired to ignition, doesn't that mean that parking mode won't work?
My Vantrue NS4 popped off the windshield - how do I re attach it. How do I reset the suction cup mount lever?
does hardwiring stop the time and date not staying constant? my N4 seems to be wrong time when i first start car in morning, then mid day goes right, then late at night back to wrong time, so i assume capacitor runs out and it doesnt know time anymore, then updates itself at somepoint? or its broke?...
Nice job and a great camera , but I'd try to avoid running the cable along the top of the door as it can impede the curtain airbag. Just my preference.....
Lewis did cover this point later in the video.
I have the N4. The video quality is superb, Better than the older N2 Pro. But the sound quality/volume isn't as good. Not a big issue.
I agree. The Vantrue instruction manual is useless. I tossed mine out too and just use common sense. To hardwire, all you have to do is to use ACC fuses so they power on your N4 when you turn on the ignition. To do that, I recommend piggybacking off of a ODB fuse, moonroof fuse, any fuse that powers accessories when engine is turned on. Use a voltage meter to measure which fuse gives you a voltage reading while the car is on and test it again when you turn off the engine to make sure there are no voltages going through. WHen both are confirmed, that's the one to use. THen it just a matter of making the connections and it's super easy. After that, you have to get creative to run the cables all over your car lol to the camera (both front and back).
I have a similar brand with same setup. Must say, routing and installing looks way easier on a Subaru Legacy!😆
Hi, if I want hardwire N4 for Parking Monitor use, it is still possible and some-how working, that camera turn-on full recording when i start engine? Many thanks! :)
If camera has parking mode, shouldn't I hook up to an always hot power source?
No hard wire kit is normal, my Nextbase is top of the range and doesn’t even come with memory card.
I would put an external battery pack between the fuse box and the camera. Anyway it drains the car battery. The battery charging only when the ignition is on and the generator charge both batteryes. Remember the old cars when you left the light on, just enough a couple of hour to be flattened the battery and the car wont start.
How long does your camera run before the battery drains and the camera shuts off?
Could you tell us where the piggyback adapter goes together? I know it goes into a live fuse but how does the cigarette lighter 12v socket thing go onto the end of it? 🤔🤔
It doesn't use the 12v/cigarette lighter, it gets its live/neutral from the fuse and then earth from the bolt.
Think of it as a lamp you plug in to a socket compared to the light you switch on at the wall.. it doesn't need a plug as it's hard wired into the wall
Did you skip past the part where you fed the cable through the grommet? There is a cut there and now I am stuck
What would you recommend to be the best dash cam? Which one do you use daily? Thank you!
The Viofo ones in the description are the ones I use 👍
@@ashley_neal thank you!
He did a nice job, but I really do not enjoy the idea of pulling off the rubber seals and routing the wires under/near them. I would much rather do what you said you did by routing with the plastic panels (because they have clips). The weather strips never stay in place with the same strength after they've been removed. Just my two cents
I hardwire my N4 and in less then a day it drains my battery that I need to jump start the car whats going on?
So I need to use the "ignition fuse"? Even for "parking mode"?
No, constant live 👍🏼
@@ashley_neal Which one is "constant live"? Lol
why wasnt the rear camera just fished straight across the head lining ?
Why are there two rear view mirrors in this car?
I'm a layman on the subject and I would like to know why this kit doesn't drain the car battery and the camera is on 24h and recording I'm worried about putting and destroying my battery since it's a hybrid sportage, if someone can guide me it would be great, thank you
The loop recording on my N4 has gaps in between sequential videos. How do I fix it?
Codec issues he explains on his flawed dash cam video
Is the rear camera waterproof?
Got a vantrue, payed almost £300 for it and it is a shame that it comes without memory card and hardwire kit for that price..
Looked like a decent job right up to the point you used the cigarette lighter cup and stuck it under the dash. Giter done....
If they gave you the dashcam without cost (based upon you having a youtube channel, expecting you to review it) then this is a sponsored video, as it is gifted in-kind. Still a good video though.
I can’t believe it isn’t usb powered ..
😮😮
Is it rude to ask how much Lewis would charge to fit that? A well known car parts trader charges £30 to fit a single forward facing camera.
Thanks for an informative video.
I'm sure Lewis and Heidi at Liverpool Auto Care will be able to give you a quote. Mine was more complicated because we had to work around the dual controls also. Have a look for their contact information in the description. 👍🏼
In southern California it costs around $100 - $150 per hour of labor. I got quoted $250 to install both cameras. Supposedly it would take 2 hours to do the job. I ended up doing it myself. It took me about 2.5 hours, but then again I have no experience and I was extra careful with everything.
I'm guessing when on test you can just sping the interior cam around so its not filming the examiner. Or even just unclip whole unit 🤣
You can actually just choose not to record the inside also.
@@ashley_neal ah that's handy then
How much u paid labor?
I hate when people make cut edits and talk during learning videos....DO THE INSTALL IMMEDIATELY AND STOP TALKING, MY GOD
half hour waste of time video. 5 min is more than enough. why would you make it like National Geographic documentary?