Cockpit distraction causes altitude bust
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- Watch how a simple distraction causes an altitude bust.
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Jon, the way you handled the 'altitude bust' and then reviewed the flight later on (and shared with all of us) is the sign of good piloting, imo. Also, Not letting one mistake rattle/distract us into making subsequent ones... even better. I find your channel is one of the best for showing other pilots "how it's done.' Thanks for sharing.
Big respect for shining a light on your mistakes so people can learn from them, this industry doesn’t get enough of that, in reality we all make mistakes and the best thing to do is learn from them 👍👍
I think this issue can also be mitigated to some extent by having the aircraft trimmed properly. I see this when students spend too long looking at the chart during navigation with a poorly trimmed aircraft.
Something everyone can relate too and superb debrief. Thanks Jon.
Thanks Terry. Thankfully I'm pretty alive to potential distractions now - but it takes something like this to recognise how easy it is to fall into the trap.
Useful debrief Jon. Love James' reaction to the sudden descent! Keep them coming.
Thanks for publishing these videos, your helping to keep GA alive in this country. If your looking for an aerodrome to review, why not fly to Wadswick farm, it has a restaurant and a special approach
Thanks for yet another open and honest approach to flying, it shows how you identified what was a minor problem could have snowballed. All guilty of those ‘momentary’ lapses and I am sure we have (if we are honest) had the odd longer one that could have been avoided
Well done Jon, good debrief of something we all do occasionally. Technically, 200' is not an altitude bust, that is generally taken as 300' or more, unless in RVSM airspace. Either way especially in a manually flown aircraft it's a good reminder of how that age old Aviate Navigate Communicate mantra holds true.... Love your content, keep up the good work.
Nicely done Jon. I'm glad to fly behind an Autopilot with level hold to mitigate the risk of this scenario. Still a valuable lesson about distraction.
Thanks Ashok. Need a good autopilot for sure.
Thanks Jon, a valuable debrief. I've only very recently got my PPL and I'm extremely conscious about how easy it would be to get distracted by a pax. My first pax will be someone who is used to light aircraft and how to behave in them, and who will not be concerned if I am quiet during periods of heavy workload!
In front of the TDODAR put FIP- Fly Identify Plan.. the Plan part encompasses the TDODAR element.. so FLY ➡️ Aviate Navigate Communicate. Identify ➡️ what is the problem. Time ➡️ is it urgent, ie, safety critical? If not then sit on your hands and fly the aeroplane. Engage the A/P if you have one then follow the rest of the process. Hope that helps. Oh and don’t be so hard on yourself.. you’re only human!
Interesting, hadn't heard of that.
Just how much alphabet soup do we have to drink ?
200ft? I deviate more than that without a distraction 😂
Yeah if hit a huge bit of lift on a sunny day that can quickly get you into trouble.
Passenger briefings always before takeoff. They must understand an intercom problem is not a priority. This is how I flew with my son. He was being sick, he knew where the sick bag was and waited for me to talk to him. Distractions are dangerous, especially in IMC.
Now on my checklist to add intercom failure to the pax brief.
@@TheFlyingReporter LOL, don’t forget the sick bag!!!
Its very much worth thinking what you'd do but often distractions are completely random and thats why they are distracting. Issues I've dealt with probably incorrectly are: someone explosive vomiting, wasps in the cockpit, smoke in the cockpit, unable to hear or contact anyone, really needing the loo so badly you think your kidneys have exploded. In all but the radio issue I let them know on the radio and they really have your back and will stop at nothing to help. The radio one is worth covering because most don't seem to know what to do.
Another top tip is to say something to Air Traffic, especially if you are inside controlled airspace with a specific cleared level. This will help them to be aware that you may not fly the aircraft in an entirely predictable manner and they may not point other traffic quite so close to you, if there is any, out of an abundance of caution. Thanks for the debrief - useful to keep getting insights into unexpected things that can happen!
Terrific stuff, Jon. Thanks for sharing that.
Great lesson! Thanks. I can lose/gain 200ft and change heading 30degrees in a hearbeat of cockpit distraction. 🙂
Hey jon, there's a video I haven't really seen anyone do yet, and that is on the costs on hiring aircraft and what wet/ dry hire means and what you get with them. Be nice if you could do a video on the topic soon.
Thanks for your honesty John
Pleasure, it's what I do here!
I have a vague recollection of you having the same problem a few years ago with a passenger headset not working and it turning out the volume was turned down. I think that was identified during pre-flight, though. Maybe a tighter volume control that needs to be more deliberately turned would help?
Great lesson learned John! Not heard of TDODAR. Will add that one to my arsenal. Thanks!
It's a good one - even if it just slows you down.
The autopilot, sounds like the one in MSFS!
Brilliant debrief, thanks!
Thanks Joe.
Hey, Jon. Don't be too hard on yourself - you weren't one of the pilots on Eastern Airlines flight 401 who crashed their Lockheed Tri-Star into the Florida Everglades killing over 100 people.
Three crew and a technical officer got completely fixated with a faulty landing light bulb and didn't realise that the Captain had disengaged the autopilot!
Good description of what you did and the after thoughts. I am interested in the fact you use multiple headset makes. Often you wear a Bose, often a Lightspeed. Is there a reason you swop around. Also never seen to my memory James wearing an old David Clarke.
I personally, prefer everyone in the cockpit wears the same make.
It was an afternoon in early November, 1988, when the CFI suddenly sprung on me the news he was sending me off on my first solo. The sun was getting lower in the sky, but I'd taken the precaution of wearing my sunglasses in case of glare on the downwind leg of the circuit. Having completed my power checks and advised the tower I was "ready for departure", one of the lenses of my sunglasses promptly fell out and landed in my lap! What a time for this to happen, and anyone with a 'screw loose' (so to speak!) will know they are virtually impossible to find. I discarded the sunglasses and all went well...although it might have been a different story.
This seems to be a very good life lesson too.. self reflection in the moment is always a difficult but very important task.. ( talking about life here)
Very interesting video… ta.
Hardly a big deal and certainly not mayhem. Certainly wouldn't beat myself up over something like this but then I don't make videos d
0:51 excuse me for a personal question and I don't mean to insult you by any means at all but what is it exactly you like in men more than in women and at what point you realised it? Is it after you had kids or before? Or are your kids adopted? My brain just cannot process it, I am gettin an error 404 poping up