5 Hidden Mechanics that help BREAK MvC2!!
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Today we're talking Marvel vs Capcom 2!! I've got 5 hidden mechanics to explain to you, glitches, combos, DHC tricks, and alpha counters! These will hopefully be really helpful to you if you're just trying to learn the game. If you want to play in the JMCup make sure to join our Twitch or Patreon!
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Chris Hu explains the DHC glitch:
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Another very strong hidden mechanic is that if you find yourself in a losing situation, you can hit Alt+F4 on fightcade and perform a strategic retreat. I hear it works on other fgs as well, very strong
#PullThePlug
The timing is pretty strict, but you can even link it into uninstall.
Just frame plug 🔌?
I heard it has invincibility on frame 1. No Johns
I hear its really effective if you unplug you’re house but theres about a 2 frame delay when doing or a 5 I haven’t really experimented with it much
“It’s still a combo, you understand?”
“Hellll noo”
I died 😂
Chris Hu and AquaSilk 😂 commentator duo named “team Rush Hour” amazing times in the fgc
any time I see magneto do that double snap infinite I can only hear yipes going "OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH!" in my head
Saw that part of the video before I read the comments and I did the same lmao.
My gawd, I remember browsing ZachD when I was an early teen trying to watch as much high-level MVC2 as possible before CZcams existed. It seriously makes me so happy that MVC2 is alive and well.
I'd pay good money to see a video of just cursed combos/cursed synergy.
Honestly, any kind of video that contains non-surface level knowledge that only character specialists/veteran players would know would be great. Things like Iceman not taking chip from energy attacks or other non-obvious character traits, character or team-specific setups, etc. Stuff like that would really help new players find a team/gameplan that fits them.
There are some videos like that but the tech is done with TAS.
JM I’m surprised you didn’t mention how when a character comes in you can’t block consecutive hits, great for the Cable super.
He's touched on guardbreak a ton in his other vids. Especially the "mvc2 greatest rivalry settled" video
That’s why u push block
@@charliej8104 pushblock can't save you from guard breaks.
@@charliej8104 Can't push block on your way in, after you block the on coming projectile your guard just breaks and you drop to the ground
JayInVA22 which guard break u referring to? For cable, u can push block or take the first hit. That’s the counter. What other guardbreak u talking about
Doesn't Skullgirls also use the same mechanic where the DHC character is rotated to the bottom? (Granted most of the mechanics are based off MVC2)
i had totally forgotten this, but yes you're right it does! Weirdly Skullgirls works more like MvC2 than MvC3 does
It even hypes it up with a gradual zooming and the opening theme on the background. man what a game.
The double snap is also replicated
It’s not weird. It’s what mike wanted.
It also has the same damage un-scaling from DHCs, Skullgirls borrows a lot of mechanics straight from MvC2
I have not played a lot of fighting games, so I really enjoy these videos that explain mechanics. Sorry for all the people that this is old hat.
I'd really love for you to do a video going over the general metagame and the flow of MvC2. I know how insanely aggressive it is for MvC3, but I know very little about how 2 actually plays flow-wise
Bro i love these! You and Gconcepts have gotten me to a pretty proficient level, and i love this game now. You guys are doing gods work my friends.
... The switch glitch feels more glitchy than the DHC glitch.
auto pressing a held button just is more wack than (we forgot you can combo after DHC, so even whiffing the DHC and getting a combo anyway allows you to basically do 2 combos off one hit with no interaction... because we wanted the second super to not be scaled to hell.
Like, it's a logical thing to happen once you know the rules that make up it.
These techniques are so impressive. I haven't played this game in years but it is still fun to watch someone with such mastery over it. Subscribed!
Great stuff man, I played MVC2 a lot in the arcades and at home on Dreamcast and I never heard of alpha counter or double snap. NEAT!
Thanks for these videos! I've finally started picking up the game because of your content and it's made it way easier to understand what I want to do and why I'm losing.
I’ve been binge watching your entire MvC2 content, I used to play this game growing up on the arcades in Mexico and on PlayStation 2, so many goood memories 🥲
I wish I loved myself as much as Jmcrofts loves Marvel vs Capcom 2
Damn, I haven't heard Chris Hu in forever. I was actually watching that stream live when he said that. XD
I’m learning so much about this game now. Thanks for the cool info
Brooooo I love your mvc2 videos , and gaming history things 😂 your a gaming legend 🙌
Always appreciate the good content
Great sharing is great caring looking after the community. I like the stick buttons on top
I dunno which game is more insane, this or melee.
JM once again doing the Lords work
oh this is fantastic, I didn't know there were ways to avoid chip and instant round attacks just WOW
I did not even knew you could cancel dashes in this game, so yeah, more informative videos are welcome
I don't even play fighting games but these educational videos are bomb
Just wanna let u know: im not really into fighting games besides DBFZ. But its really calming to watch u for some reason.
Its like a deaf is a fan of a musican.
I play this on my dreamcast after work 3 times a week. I'm just grinding arcade mode but I've learned allot from these videos. I'd get crushed if i played online though.
We'll need more of these pretty soon 😅
That chris hu clip is *chefs kiss*
Bro u are absolutely goated for that aquasilk clip lmfaoo. Snackish!! @jmcrofts
Can you lightning attack 3 times in the air and still wiff normals or perform hypers? I was at the arcade and every time I did a lightning attack 3x I couldn't wiff normals or do hypers with storm in the air afterward
Is there a good discord or wiki for resources to learn more about this game? I've seen tons of youtube videos but it would be nice to have some sort of articles or data tables for quick reference
wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Marvel_vs_Capcom_2
On alpha counters:
You didn't elaborate properly on Cable-b and his alpha counter to AHVB.
I've had so many matches I was about to lose where I used this to punish an assist call, an otherwise safe move from the point character, or both. This can win otherwise hopeless matches by killing one or more characters out of nowhere.
You can also guard push, and cancel that with an alpha counter. This is very dangerous, especially with Cable B in the back. Guard pushing some close attack making their next one as well as Cable's psimitar miss lets you cancel that with an Air Hyper Viper Beam. Like they say in Seattle, Everyone gets shot.
While I dont play fighting games much, outside of Smash in a blue moon; I've really been enjoying this channel. Found you a couple days ago, but its been a blast! Thanks sir! and good luck with your tournament!
Spectators are awesome!
Im hyped for the tourney
Ayyyy the rogue Akuma dhc glitch I see you
keep streaming/making MvC2 videos, this game is still so great!!
Can you give us a guide on throw loops? I've been struggling with Guile's in particular
I was wondering how to do the Switch Glitch as you called it. Thanks!
Ahh the double snap, also known as the OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH
never knew assist properties carried over in the alpha counters!
Hey JM. I was wondering if you could do a video on Dhalsim. I’ve never been interested in playing as him but I heard a few months back that he’s actually a fairly decent character in Marvel 2 and even inspired the maker of hitbox to make that controller. I’m kinda curious as to why he’s a high tier competitive character.
I just started playing mvc2, is there a good beginner guide for it? Idk what im supposed to do in combos
Hey JM! where is everyone getting the fightcade rom from for MVC2? Can't seem to find it, thanks!
When you say “1 frame normal” do you mean in old terminology or new?
Because in 3rd strike when someone says “chun-li has a 2 frame jab” they mean it has 2 frames of start up and then hits on the 3rd. Which in modern terminology we’d call a “3 frame jab”.
Is Magneto’s c.LK 1 frame start up and then hits on the second (2 frame normal in modern terms) or does it actually hit on the next frame after you press the button?
Is there a resource for team comps in mvc2? Like somewhere to go to tell me what characters play what role on a team?
hey man does your discord run 3rd Strike tournaments? Got Fightcade bc of your video and I'm itching to play competitive! Thanks for the vids :D
This game legit never worked on fightcade for me. Oh well, mvc collection here I come!
JMcrofts I just beat my new marvel 2 addiction for finals week you can't be kick-starting it again...
Hey jm can you do a video explaining the throw mechanic in the game for example captain commando has two throws hp and hk one does more than other but can a person break hp with hk or hk with hp or is something else also I don't think hulk has any standard throws only command one and it's blockable sad plus many characters have strange things after throws like combo or easy loop setups etc anyways might be something interesting for you to cover and fun
Would it be possible for someone to double-check the frame data on Servbot's fastest normal? The website lists all of his standing normals as having a 6-frame startup, and that seems very wrong. (For reference, that's the same amount of startup time as Juggernaut's light kick.)
I just learned that DBFZ has the switch glitch!!! Now I can properly mix people who think that their point character is the best counter to mine
Aryc system and capcom needs to colab with this game . I'm sure it would be thrilling .
What it really troubles me is that I can't perform the DHC to save my characters, I perform the first HC and then I try to perform the second DHC nothing happens, I wonder if there is some sort of timing to perform the second HC since you make it look very easy.
The timing is different from Mavel 3. In Marvel 2 try and DHC earlier that you would expect
Bro try spamming them in training mode 🤙
You can only do it when the screen is just a color, like Blue, Green or Red
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I have fightbcade all my games work flawlessly except mvc2 it lags and is unplayable is there something I need to do to get it to work like the other games
Where can I get this emulator and ROM? I used to love this game in the arcade way back in the day
Shouts out Chris Hu and AquaSilk.
I got inspired recently to download fightcade and give mvc2 a shot, as a matter of fact i just got done playing Umvc3 with a friend over at my place today. I have quite some legacy "modern" day fighting experience but my BIG problem with mvc2 is that it feels so strange to move around, and the lack of a default "magic series" makes me not really understand a characters combo utility. It is all just, few hits into super, where are Umvc3 is so many more hits. My question then is: what is the best way to understand a characters combos and/or movement ?
Tibazz
Playing the characters
@@elmaionesosexo Its so obvious : )
To be honest, not feeling motivated to do so.
How do you tech throws in this game?
Loving all these MVC2 videos. Please make more, I'll watch a video about how Hayato clips his toenails idgaf.
10:37 “OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH!”
I knew last one be the classic
You should reference G Conceptz's channel. He has a bunch of videos he made recently about MVC2 mechanics and whatnot for relatively new people
jm being the cutest fgc content creator
Here to find out if this video proves successful or if it is re-uploaded under a different title.
no need to re-upload, i can just change the title
I think it will be successful, Justin Wongs channel is like Majority Marvel 2 now. Marvel Heads don't have alot of representation in 2021 so they back the people still doing it now.
5:50 lol UNDERSTAND HELL NO*
Are you guys still working on thos game to be played download on your local store
I am a twitch subscriber but have no possible way of participating, *sad. But will be rooting the game play all the way!
Goddamnit, Mixtape. Subscribe to the man already!
Old game! Old Game?! This is THE Game!
can aynone tell me who are the air dasher chars in this game?
Would you ever host an Ex Layer tournament?
8:50
Can we call it a 'reverse quarter circle'?
Are throws f1 in this game?
I miss mvc 2. Easily one of my most played ps2 games.
Which characters have a safe DHC? Do you know?
I don’t play Mv2 but I do play other tag fighters. Usually if a characters super is a projectile, it’ll be safe on DHC
It should be noted that switch glitching is frowned upon.
0:44 then... who finded it?
Low-key in love? What would it be to be openly in love with the game! We all know you love MvC2!!!
absolute toot styled maniacal
how to survive chip....that changes the game at least to me more than I'm willing to understand at this point.
I’m trying to figure out how to do dhcs it’s really awkward and weird
Where can I play mvc2
THIS GAMES CRACK, DONT NEED NO RESOURCES, JUST HIT THE CRAKC
You gotta be an engineer to play this game 😂😂😂
A 21 year old game got rollback before DBFZ did, that one stings, guys.
i never got the arcade version working.....so i had to settle for the dreamcast version
YOOO, this is exactly that insider bullshit that people like to gatekeep.
Do this for third strike and others as well.
Can anyone point me to a resource to help me learn mvc2?
MvC2's bad QA is a feature not a bug.
I thought akuma has the fastest jab in the game.
Can you do a Mugen tournament please
The Rogue into Akuma DHC was dogshit.... you're supposed to launch into air hurricane kick. Less meter and way more damage.
To me, this just seems like a really hard game. I dont know if I want to invest the time into learning this.
Like anything that's complex, it takes time. MvC2 is such a varied game that some people don't even use these tips, like alpha counter or dhc glitch. At top level it'll be brutal yes, but it takes time to get there. I'd say just try to have fun with the game at your own pace and learn what you need to learn when you need it. Like if you're struggling with damage then learn big combos or if you keep getting chipped learn to alpha counter. I play a low mid tier team in this game and I didn't even know about half the things in this video and I still have fun just learning and enjoying the game. Just play it at your own pace and have fun, if it's still not a game for you then it's okay, but don't be intimidated by depth, you'll get there if you play long enough. Definitely recommend some Sajam content if you're interested in learning about fg philosophy.
MVC2 Is FREEEEEEE LIETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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thats all well and good, but , this game is crack..
Imagine paying money to join a discord to play a game with other ppl. At a tournament