Nick All Star Brawl 2's Roster is Kinda BAD
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Music Used:
Main Menu - Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl
VS Results - Super Smash Bros
Groose's Theme - The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword
Sewer Surfin - TMNT IV: Turtles in Time
Sky Blue - The King of Fighters XIV
Bowser's Galaxy Generator - Mario and Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games
Rat Race - Rhythm Tengoku
Omashu - Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl
Hillwood Rally - Nickelodeon Kart Racers 2
Ghost Zone - Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl
Sweet Dreams - Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl
With Flying Colors - Splatoon 3
Pinball Carnival Act 1 - Sonic Superstars
The Loud House - Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl
Blossoming Arcadia - Pikmin 4
Badminton - Mario and Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games - Hry
Fun fact: The day after this video was released, Gertie was officially annouced and it turned out the Nick excutives wanted her in.
That's a lie. According to insider information, the same insiders who leaked the entire game so there's no reason to not believe in what they say, Arnold's grandma was suggested by one of the devs, Nickelodeon just liked the idea enough to put her on the list of characters that the devs can choose from.
Zuko definitely gonna be DLC. It’s a case of “let’s put the not as popular character on the base roster and sell the more popular character as DLC to generate sales”
And Toph as a free update
Speaking of Zuko
Still hope that the games thinks to bring back Toph
Plus Add in Katara
Sokka
Azula
Iroh
Bumi
Avatar Roku
Suki
Jet
Admiral Zhao
Fire Lord Ozai
Ect....................................................
@@dylansmith5206 Dude you don't need to spam reply to every single comment
Zuko could easily be a skin alternative
Same with mr Krabs
Luna over Ember ? Hell nah. I strongly disagree. Ember might have not been a bunch of episodes, but she's still memorable. You should see how much fanart comes up when searching her on google images or even on Twitter. Invader Zim also had controversy as well, but that didn't stop the devs from adding him. I do think it's strange that they decided to use Gerald & Grandma Gertie. I'm pissed Helga is now unplayable. It feels like those two replaced her. Then what's also strange is they didn't choose to add Arnold into the game. I'm starting to think that the devs just aren't interested in him. I don't really get the whole Arnold is a pacifist argument when we literally have Garfield & Rocko in the game. Garfield is a fat lazy ass cat and Rocko wouldn't even hurt a fly. I feel like NASB fans only came up with that lame ass excuse of Arnold being a pacfist just because they don't really too much care for him. I love Azula, but I'm surpised they chose her over Zuko. I do agree that 2000s and 2010s shows should be represented more. Hell, even in Nickelodeon Kart Racers. I wish Nickelodeon would just go all out with the budget for both games, so we can see literally every Nicktoon represented.
Speaking of Zuko and Azula
Still hope that the game Adds in Katara
Sokka
Azula
Iroh
Bumi
Avatar Roku
Suki
Jet
Admiral Zhao
Fire Lord Ozai
Ect....................................................
Luna is not cut her stage is still in it there just probably still working on her move set like they did squidward.oringally we thought squidward was part of SpongeBob super move but they probably used it as model to add squid.
@dylansmith5206 as short as the leak specifically so only three more not counting dlc
I want Chalkzone so bad in this game. And if there was a Chalkzone track in the Kart Racing game i would actually buy it in a heartbeat
Luna is not cut
As someone who has never watched Danny Phantom, I know who Ember is, and I don't know those other characters you mentioned, so she is definitely more popular than you think she is.
While I definitely think they should add some more newer reps the truth is the older shows are more popular. It could use some more diversification in terms of shows and eras of Nickelodeon but it is in no way a bad roster.
I would love to see Rocket Power get a rep too, maybe we could at least get a stage of the skatepark or something.
Ember's always been disproportionately popular compared to how relevant she actually was. It was the case back in the mid 2000s when the show was running, and has been the case in the decades since. There are uploads of her song on this site that have accumulated millions of views. There's a reason the three Danny Phantom character Funko Pops in existence are Danny, Vlad, and Ember. In various fan polls of characters people wanted in the game posted on Reddit, the only Danny Phantom characters who ever placed are Ember and Vlad. Box Ghost, Skulker, Valerie, and other DP characters can't boast the same. (Even though I don't doubt they'd be fun picks in their own right.) Ember's simply more popular than every other of Danny's enemies besides Vlad. People remember her, which I suppose is rather fitting.
Plus looking at the rest roster of the roster, Skulker's little dude in a big mech suit gimmick is something Plankton already does. And as far as meme characters go, there's already Nigel and Gertie pushing Box Ghost out. (For the record it was apparently Nick themselves pushing for her according to one of the playtesters. Which is a big uhhhhhh to me too, but corporations are like that.) So at least Ember can carve out a swordie/Palutena niche as a weapon user with a diverse set of things she can do.
Idk if Skulker is one to one "a little guy in a mech" like Plankton. Skulker's not as big as Plankton's mech and you hardly see Skulker's true form when he's fighting. He's more like Samus than Plankton who's closer to Bowser Jr.
In fan community polls, Ember was the second highest voted Danny Phantom character behind Vlad. Do some research. Relevancy doesn't mean anything even in Smash, because if it did, K. Rool and Banjo certainly wouldn't be there, they only got in due to fan demand - just like Ember.
I know this is supposed to be an analytical take on this game but i just can't take it seriously when we're discussing the misrepresentation on a nickelodeon fighting game, i just think that's funny as hell to me.
This cartoon stuff gets serious lol
@@bwaddledon3682 yup I agree 💯
I don't think any of these choices are actually bad, and that they are all at least kinda cool, but the problem with it, is that they're prioritizing secondary and unnecessary addition instead of the "missing" picks like characters from new shows like Timmy, Otis and Miko, and more relevant characters than the ones chosen from alerady represented shows like Skullker, Zuko and Arnold, it's like adding Piranha Plant in Smash Melee before Princess Peach and Bowser
It's especially egregious if we are indeed getting 11 cut characters like everything is pointing to so far, and it'll be even worse if the alerady expensive DLC is filled with those missing veteran characters
Not sure how Ember McClain is an unnecessary pick. She's extremely popular even with people who didn't watch the show, and is one of the more iconic show's villains. It makes sense for her to pop up. She's not some obscure pick and 6 appearances for a villain of the week story isn't bad at all.
One thing i BELIEVE you forgot to see on twitter is that one of the devs mentioned that they were FORCED to add Arnold's Grandma since it was a direct order from Nick, i bet they would have given that slot to some other character from other franchise, but for NICK to actually tell them to do that? Weird pick
But why would Nick do that
diversity requirements... you know the drill with these companies by now@@moon4236
Taking issue with ember and azula is crazy sorry. No Danny phantom fan has an issue. I’d def rather have her over skulker or box ghost. She doesn’t have the most appearances (honestly it being 6 surprised me) but she’s iconic to the show. And I don’t take it as a given zuko would get in over azula. If you’re only doing one firebender (and having two avatars means you already have two characters with orange fire in their moveset), may as well pick the more visually interesting villain.
Ikr i mean I liked him, but Powdered Toast Man had even less appearances with most just cameos and he worked plus he's scrapped presumably in this game so Ember actually has more going for her than he did.
My problem is the fact that Leonardo and Michelangelo are gone, they haven't been seen anywhere. A lot of people were complaining about the lack of all four Turtles in the first game, and they're doing it again? It's so weird not having all four there. Hope I'm wrong and they are in it.
Speaking of The Turtles
Still hope that the game adds in these Turtle Character's-
Bring Back Shredder
Throw in Bebop and Rocksteady
Casey Jones
Krang
Splinter
Ect......................................................................
@@dylansmith5206hell no that's way to many reps
Theyre not gone. All the old roster is included
@ottosantiagolassus Doesn't look like it so far. I think it has been confirmed that character cuts will be made, and it's really starting to look like Leonardo, Michelangelo, as well as Shredder, are among those that have been cut since they haven't been seen anywhere to my knowledge.
@@ottosantiagolassus are you sure about that?
I understand that the 2010's shows aren't as recognizable as the 90's-2000's shows, but they still have a great audience who would like to see some of the newer shows besides Korra or TMNT. How about characters from Sanjay and Craig, Harvey Beaks, Welcome to the Wayne, It's Pony? I love the characters on those shows and they could easily translate into a fighting game like this. It would be cool seeing Pony or Harvey fighting Ren and Stimpy.
Look I still don't care for any beyond glitch techs 😊
Yes fr
Same. Seems weird how it's mostly 90s-2000s shows with the loud house
The only characters I'm disappointed with are gerald and gertie. The rest of the roster is great.
Agreed.
I do find it VERY weird & somewhat annoying that they’re adding 3 side characters (unless they removed Helga) from Hey Arnold yet don’t have the Football head himself.
Ikr like if your gonna add side charecters do it in the 3rd installment of nickelodeon all star brawl plus I'm not getting this one if there showing Garfield again there gonna cut charecters off witch makes no sence and not even worth getting that's like getting a new gen pokemon title and getting less pokemon in it.
Should of gone with Monkey Man instead of Gerald.
@@shatteredsentient5321 to be fair hey Arnold, is not an action show and Arnold himself is kind of a pacifist. So there isn’t really much options.
I agree Azula over Zuko is a massive L and cutting 44% of the roster for characters like Arnold's Grandma is 💀
There is a distinct lack of Dib
Oh boohoo, Ember’s in and because there was a tragedy related to her that means she’s a bad pick, nevermind that Ren and Stimpy, Lucy and Zim are still here and they’ve all had there fair share of controversies. But I guess Ember’s the exception, get over yourself dude
Wait what happened with lucy and zim?
My brother in Christ i literally said I was ignoring that event as part of my opinion
@@mekiherring2088creator of loud house was a pedophile and a murder was linked to the dark harvest episode of invader zim
@@mekiherring2088loud house creator harrased female co-workers, and the invader zim episode dark harvest inspired a s3rial k!ller
@@lemon5000-tj6nv oh😨😰😰
I am sorry but, the 90s and early 2000s is the most beloved era of nick. It make sense to add a bunch of those character. And just to say, its because they are old, is the most dumbest reason to disagree with why they are picking character. At most I do agree with the tmnt thing, because it make more sense if each turtle was from a different show.
Speaking of The Turtles
Still hope that the mod adds in these Turtles Characters-
Bring Back Shredder
Plus add in Bebop And Rocksteady
Krang
Casey Jones
Splinter
Ect...........................................
@capsule-kin6436
The 2010s era still had some great shows.
It would of made more sence to add the side charecters in the 3rd Game installment.
@@thefuture4527 Yeah, I mean the 2010s had some good nicktoons. Just sucks how a lot of them were Dreamworks shows meaning they can't be used
17:35 personally I think they’re just waiting until a future Nick Brawl game to include Glitch Techs rep because they probably would want it to be more impacting but the show’s fandom is still ambiguously small and relatively young (the show’s premiere isn’t even five years old yet)
Very much disagree, they gave us many new characters we wanted and plenty of new creative choices
Okay Ember is definitely not a bad pick at all, shes a fan favorite!
Mephiles the Dark is also a fan favorite. Sometimes fans just be wrong and stinky
Speaking Of Ember
Still hope that these DP character's are added to the roster
Dark Danny (Adult Danny)
Dani Fenton (The Female Clone Of Danny)
The Box Ghost
Skulker
The Box Ghost
Ect....................................................
Dark Danny can be a skin,Dani Fenton if adults don't want the rugrats in she definitely wouldn't be allowed she is not the same age as danny,the box ghost was the weakest ghost in danny phantom,Skulker I can see him joining his stage can be the prison in the ghost zone.
@@bwaddledon3682 nah bro Mephiles the Dark was sick.
Nobody wanted Garfield, nobody wanted Hugh, nobody wanted CatDog, nobody wanted Helga or Grandma Gerde as a playable character.
I love how many people are getting up in arms about era representation in the Nickelodeon fighting game as if the company hasn't been pushing older nostalgic properties and characters over the newer ones in marketing and merchandising since time immemorial.
I actually like most of the additions and the overall roster compared to the first game. Will miss Sandy, Cat Dog and Hugh tho.
I miss Sandy, Toph, Helga, and Lincoln :(
@@Kembi_Mekemo Yeah, even if they cut Lincoln to make there be more female characters HELGA IS FEMALE WHAT THE-
The reason Nick stopped using Fairly Oddparents for console videogames is because Disney somehow got their hands with the distribution of the IP via meddling with Nelvana. They acquired channels around the world to make them into Disney XD and they inherited the distribution rights of all of those, including the ones with deals with Nelvana.
For i Nick, the IP is no longer a "full" nicktoon since then.
It's always gotta be disney
@@memutahar1 Disney also has Doug, but then again, I don’t really think he fit.
@@orangeslash1667 you mean Doug or Timmy 🤔
@@quranbooker6655 No I meant Doug!
@@orangeslash1667 oh ok
The cutting of Lincoln, Shredder, and CatDog, paired with the (continued) lack of Timmy, isn't excusable. How do you cut these fighters and add show-stoppers like, "Arnold's Grandma," "Not Zuko," and "rocker girl known from that one episode?" It's ridiculous.
It's a shame, because everything else seems like an objective step up. I can live with some of the cuts, and rarely do I care about roster stupidity, but...they cut some of the biggest characters on the fucking network, regardless of your opinion on them, for stupid memes and characters aimed at geriatrics (even then, it's confusing - why are we keeping April over Shredder?). Come the fuck on.
Yea, This Guy need to Stop Complaining and Grow Up!
As much as I miss Lincoln Loud, I was able to cope with him being cut thanks to El Tigre and some sertraline pill medication to rid the anger outta me.
Do you have some sort of personal vendetta against Ember? While she didn't appear in many episodes, she's still a huge fan favorite. Her moveset looks fun and interesting, and she helps with having more female and villain representation. Like, I don't think even Piranha Plant was hated as much when it was revealed.
Nothing personal, just think she sucks as a pick lol
Speaking Of Ember
Still hope that these DP character's are added to the roster
Dark Danny (Adult Danny)
Dani Fenton (The Female Clone Of Danny)
The Box Ghost
Skulker
The Box Ghost
Ect....................................................
Are you really hype for Ember
stop the cap
@@omaroropeza8117 Probably not my first choice for a new character, but she does look cool.
@@bwaddledon3682it's hard for them to get Timmy turner is because they don't own it.They have to ask nelvana and disney.some cartoons on nickelodeon they don't own any more.They sold Doug now they have to ask disney because they bought it. Some was created by Warner Brothers.
Although by judging from the possible roster, I wouldn't mind seeing Ember chosen as another DP rep, because she's a fan-favourite. It's so disappointing to see Helga has been disconfirmed, leaving as a background character from Hillwood Lockjaw stage. Like I said from before, I mean Gerald and Arnold's grandma? It completely makes no sense. Helga supposed to be in the base roster, because of how aggressive she is than more than Gerald or Gertie. If it wasn't for Gerald being chosen, I rather see Dib as a realistic choice.
Man what party pooper I love this roster of characters. This dude needs to chill out over the character roster 🙄 seriously.
Or just don't watch it. You know what you were getting into, bro.
I love the roster so don't hate it
SpongeBob can survive outside water without his fishbowl, Garfield can be a playable character in a fighting game, but Arnold can't be here because he's a pacifist.
Also, Arnold is not Mikey from Disney's Recess.
Basically Nick All-Star 2 is Sans the skeleton it's a comedian a joke and I love it it should never be taken too seriously
BUT PLEASE I NEED BARN YARD IN THIS GAME PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ember, a bad pick? Sorry I can’t hear you over her fanbase and her song Remember playing in my background.
Well to be fair, Nickelodeon's prime was the 80s and 90s,
and I would rather have these random off the wall characters then just the main cast again.
It's a Nickelodeon fighting game, so I think it should just be crazy.
Although I do think it's completely stupid that Timmy isn't here yet, because I know they can use him.
Disagree sorry
Facts
Fair enough
@@bwaddledon3682all star one is fucking shit
@@bwaddledon3682 the problem with odd parents, is that the series is owned by Disney and Nelvana. So there may be some legal issues.
@@orangeslash1667nah they still got in a nickelodeon tennis mobile game, also I’m pretty sure Disney doesn’t own the rights
someday, they should make a Director's cut for life
i'm glad you share my excitement about El Tigre
Imagine if the final character for this game is Ezekiel from Total Drama.
Bruh that's Cartoon Network not Nickelodeon
@@bwaddledon3682actually it isn’t, total drama isn’t made by Cartoon Network studios Cartoon Network just aired it.
it sucks that not only did they add raph and donnie but completely forgot mike and leonardo of the TMNT, but they only brought back shredder as a NPC boss (a complete inverse of ridley being made playable in smash).
The only character I kinda don’t understand is Grandma Gertie. I have to disagree. I feel most of the dlc characters will be 2000s characters. Ember sure has been in 6 episodes but they can still use the character. Azula being on the game for a Avatar villain rep. If we do get these characters like Bessie Higginbottom, Mr Blick, Fanboy and Chum Chum, Sway Sway and Badeuce, Dudley Puppy. I will will be really happy. But most importantly Timmy Turner
No one wants fanboy and chum chum👎👎
@@orangeslash1667 Boy, would you be surprised.
@@user-em7ud2og7r I'm disappointed to hear that😞😞😞.
@@orangeslash1667 or sway sway and badeuce 😒
@@quranbooker6655 Not them ether.
nah plankton hype
nah azula hype
oh also you're boldly assuming that all fighters are returning but apparently on top of being in the background of a stage helga specifically is deconfirmed so like, the "3 Hey Arnold Characters" argument, for example, doesn't work (i didn't pay close attention to when this video came out, so to be fair that wasn't known when you actually released this video). And they'll want to have at least one character. I think Gerald is the only case where I agree that they should've done a different character and even then we haven't seen his moveset. Unlike Gertie who has like, Villager Falcon moveset since her wacky escapades make her the most reasonably action-based Hey Arnold character, to my understanding.
nah ember hype
10:00 ? You have to explain yourself on this one, I don't care if it's weird, you can't just say "And this character did something SOOOO despicale... That I can't say it. Just. Trust. Me." (Especially considering you want more Loud House characters and that show has its own set of controversies. Apparently the live action just shows a real life kid in real life underwear? That's vile.)
11:06 ???
11:29 Soooo Ember is a pick with a unique gimmick and relatively unique moveset amongst a set of characters that are largely homogenized in moveset that flood the roster? That... doesn't sound right, for better or for worse.
13:21 I feel like when that's your example of a new Korra character then it goes to show that Legend of Korra just hasn't lent itself very well to unique movesets for this game. Probably the best option is like, Grandma Toph. As an alt for Toph.
13:25 Sanjay and Craig are... Far from liked. Fanboy & Chum Chum would be controversial and they're waaaay more liked. Harvey Beaks is a cool series from what I've heard but Nickelodeon sorta killed it sooo... Honestly that sort of goes both ways though, good chance to give the series a spotlight but also highlights the poor treatment it got. Same goes for some other shows like Glitch Techs.
Timmy being delayed to DLC was clearly a greedy move.
Luna's aesthetic isn't the same. I'd be a fan of her inclusion too, maybe even slightly prefer it, but she's not an entire replacement.
20:35 The "no cuts" part aged poorly REAL quickly.
21:26 Entirely backwards reasoning as displayed by her being confirmed out of the game within the next 24 hours or so. They added 2 Hey Arnold characters because they weren't including the previous one.
Plus I assume that since we HAVE to have Hugh that the box art doesn't show everyone, though Timmy's definitely not in it at launch because he's a box art character.
Yeah at the end of me making this the cuts thing leaked, so I was like "DAMN IT", nothing I could really do about that. My timing was off
Yeah, happens.@@bwaddledon3682
I love your take on the your roster pick, especially Luna Loud and Miko.
I am holding out hope that a lot of that extra budget went into even more reps we haven't yet seen
I also am worried for the cut characters, cuz we saw Helga in the background of a stage.
However for example, there are 3 Loud House stages confirmed. They wouldn't only give Lucy as a rep then.
I just hope there is an explanation for Helga and that all the veterans return, but just aren't on the title screen
Asking for Grandma Gurdy from Hey Arnold is like asking for Piranha Plant to be in Smash
i'm okey with the roster
El Tigre & Angry Beavers are an A+ in my book, both are new series and are tons of fun
Donnie & Raph are okey, i agree that i rather see Rise & 2012, cause i am sick of seeing those 80s turtles *everywhere*
Azula, sure Zuko made more sence, but Azula is a female villain and add electrical attacks along with her fire
Gerald, he is likely the "sports" pick & Grandma Gertie is just funny to me, able to fight as an old lady + every fighting game needs a weird pick
Plankton & Squidward, both excellent picks, Spongebob being the biggest show of all, so it makes sence for it to have a lot of characters
Ember, yeah there was the shooting thing, and yeah she didn't show up much, but... she's cool, and how she plays looks cool
and yeah it sucks that most from after the 2000s are kinda ignored
and regarding Hey Arnold and Danny Phantom, they were one of the biggest hits of there respective eras
let's hope the DLC can fix it a bit
Speaking of Zuko and Azula
Still hope that the game Adds in Katara
Sokka
Azula
Iroh
Bumi
Avatar Roku
Suki
Jet
Admiral Zhao
Fire Lord Ozai
Ect....................................................
I wanna see my boi Rudy
@@BoomyShakes i rather have Skrawl as a Chalkzone rep. to be honest
@@dylansmith5206 it is a Nickelodeon fighting game, not an Avatar fighting game
I mean Azula as a base character aint bad at all especially if they're planning to make Zuko DLC, like they did with Hugh cuz he was originally the most requested character
Speaking of Zuko and Azula
Still hope that the game Adds in Katara
Sokka
Azula
Iroh
Bumi
Avatar Roku
Suki
Jet
Admiral Zhao
Fire Lord Ozai
Ect....................................................
@@dylansmith5206We get it! Stop spamming!
Hey as long as Otis and Parker J Cloud can be dlc im all for this roster nonsense or not. They are some of the last main wishes left i need.
I've never watched Middlemost Post but a shapeshifting cloud sounds like it could make for a cool moveset
Bruh this Roster Is Awesome ❤❤❤
not to send any hate people have different opinions and I feel that they have a pretty good roster
I just want Bessie from Mighty B honestly
I just hope they add the others through free updates. If it's like 4 to 5 cuts they probably can do it. If no Catdog, Hugh, or Toph idk man, I don't know.
Speaking of Toph
Add in Katara
Sokka
Zuko
Azula
Iroh
Bumi
Avatar Roku
Suki
Jet
Admiral Zhao
Fire Lord Ozai
Ect....................................................
I don’t hate the roster but we’re forgetting about a female character that should be here… Vicky. Imagine her move set, chainsaws, flame throwers, bear traps. The possibilities are endless
Can't comment on much except the Loud House, but re:Lincoln
Apparently he was actually the least played character in NASB1. He was mained by some notable people, but overall, virtually no one chose to play him, and the devs themselves didn't care much for him. Comparatively, the devs _actively fought Nickelodeon_ to get Lucy (and others like Nigel) into NASB1 for _months_ and won through attrition.
Get this: Nickelodeon mandated that Lincoln _has_ to appear in the game, but didn't explicitly state he has to be _playable_
Re: No other Loud sisters?
That was more a dev decision as Lucy was the one the devs preferred for NASB1 and they had no mandates for any of them except Lucy in NASB2 (for a reason I'll explain later on). And yes, they overwhelmingly prefer 90s and early 2000s Nicktoons, so there was a heavy bias against the Loud House as just about every archetype the sisters most likely to join could have filled instead went to retro Nickelodeon characters they felt were better or more interesting.
Luna and Luan would both have been the most likely to get in if any of the sisters do, but Ember completely screwed Luna's chances. And despite the fact she is popular in the Loud House, Ember _was_ actually very widely requested, dwarfing Luna overall. And not even just due to Randy Stair. Apparently despite Ember only appearing a tiny few number of times in Danny Phantom, she was widely considered one of the most popular characters in the show. To put it another way, Randy Stair did what he did _because_ of how popular and loved she was; it wasn't a phenomenon that came after.
Furthermore, if anyone else from the Loud House gets in, it might not actually be a Loud sister but rather Ronnie Anne, just because "normal/bully girl" is no longer a fulfilled niche now that Helga is out.
"Lincoln getting in again?" AFAIK, the devs do not want to resell any of the cut characters as DLC, at least at this moment. And Lincoln still has the same problem he had in NASB1 where the devs just don't care for him. There's a chance of something happening next year involving the Loud House that gives Lincoln a far more interesting potential moveset, but considering how far out that is, that's something that'll more likely play into NASB3.
As for why Lucy seems to have all the attention lately, she's actually the most popular sister according to an internal poll at Nickelodeon that leaked fairly recently gauging which sisters are the favorites and best picks to lead a spinoff, and it's not even close.
Now hold on there. When I say "it's not even close," oof, I mean she is so ridiculously far ahead of second place that the gap between her and 2nd place is _bigger_ than the gap between second place and last place- in a 10-girl-race. And the gap between second and last place is by _well over twenty points_
Lucy's apparently _that_ much of a breakout hit, at least with kids.
Furthermore, a pitch bible exists for such spinoff starring the sisters. Originally Lisa was the "head" of it because the network was banking on her being their breakout star sister, ("supergenius kid" characters are easy to write for for a kid's show and they have a history with one of the most famous of them) but Lucy stole the show among kids, and then Wednesday debuted and swept it up (but the network is hesitant about Lucy's potential and thus pitched an anthology series about all the sisters). So Lucy's continued focus is likely due to her being the de-facto star of a spinoff yet to debut.
Idk if you saw but it looks like all characters on the box art have been cut Helga Hugh PTM Lincoln all seem to be cut for sure
Im curious what your thoughts on the DLC picks are
I’m just upset because how for a franchise called tmnt do you not bring back both turtles and shredder but April
I heard that the reason Grandma Gertie is in this game is because Nickelodeon themselves wanted her.
And they could’ve obviously said no but this feels like either a compromise for Nick giving them more money to make the game actually good or it’s to appease Nick. So, yeah....
I don’t like her inclusion either since she probably replaced my main Helga but her moveset seems fun.
Vlad is not playable
neither is Shredder
even though they're 100% complete and playable...for no reason.
This roster is like if they added piranha plant in melee and then fuckin Lakitu and a Parakoopa, then instead of Zelda, they put in Epona because instead of making their fans happy, they wanted to look quirky and fucking hilarious and random .
Its not even hard man. Spongebob, Danny, Timmy and Jimmy, make those your front men, your Mario, Link, Kirby and Pikachu equivalents. Boom, everything else is free game. EXEPT ITS NOT, because the devs are 90s kids and they're not remotely shy about showing it.
A lot of the problem with adding the 90s characters, is that most of that era was slice of life sitcoms and there designs don't translate to fighting exceptionally well. The only way I could think of them working is if they thought out of the box and got funny with it. Tommy Pickles would unironically be the greatest joke character of all time simply for the fact that he is a baby. Like what if they on purpose made him an S tier and people were regularly raging because another Tommy Pickles is 3 stocking them and then start shouting "YESSSSSSSS" when they finally start beating the ever loving shit out of an infant. That's a joke character + a veratrin cartoon + a creative way to make a mundane fighter interesting, that isn't just adding a million references to their move sets.
One other thing, I think having Garfield and TMNT in the game is tacky and they don't feel like Nick shows. Now I think TMNT is forced to be in the game due to Nick seeing it as a game seller, but Garfield is a comic strip character, idk why tf anyone chose him over any other character. Its like if they made marvel 3 and the DLC character they chose to put in the game was batman, it would just mess with the vibe. This shit just makes the game feel like its modded or like its muggen,
In conclusion, I'm not buying the game and I don't even have the first one lmao. I've been bitching about nothing this whole time. Thank you for reading this schizophrenia
If Carl Wheezer drops I'm maining him 😂
Ember now reduces the chances of luna loud being in it
Since she has a guitar
better choice Luna will be a better turn on Amber why I think what a terrible choice
luan would be a better pick anyway imo
@@lemon5000-tj6nv Luna didn't create a PR nightmare
@@JuanGomez-ke5pyplease don't say "a better turn on" when talking about a child character. Thank you.
Ember is rather Popular in the Danny Phantom fandom
Yes shes out there and doesn't really make a big impact on the show but Shes cool and is relatively Iconic
They’re def saving some characters for dlc
They won't put Arnold in the game but they threw in rocko another character who wouldn't fight give us Arnold
Yeah and Garfield don’t fight
He fricken sleeps all day and eats lasagna
@@JoeyTheMinion and yet they put him in the game and he's not even a Nickelodeon property
@@Evil_Teddy_Toybox Well apparently, technically he is now but come on there were some many other picks then garfield considering he wasn’t even originally from nickelodeon
@@JoeyTheMinion it's basically a TMNT situation the only difference is Garfield doesn't have a show on the network or hasn't spent years cementing itself to the Nickelodeon brand like TMNT did
@@Evil_Teddy_Toybox Actually it’s so stupid, I mean I like Garfield but there was many other important choices
Tbh i agree with you on some of these points as i get this is a completely new game but they could've taken the time to remake all the movesets for all of the original roster instead of cutting 11 of the original roster but the roster isn't really bad due to the devs choices Nickelodeon and other people from the corporation also wanted some of these characters and the devs had no choice they were told to add characters from different shows and they have to they are using Nickelodeon's characters so they also have to follow their commands on certain characters getting in so its your opinion i ain't judging that but it also isn't really their fault when they have to add characters that Nickelodeon tells them to add
Hey, at least we have someone from a Butch Hartman show voiced by Tara Strong, so I guess Timmy's here in SPIRIT. 😃
Yeah, why couldn’t you add Arnold but I added Arnold’s grandma and his friend. It doesn’t make any sense why can’t you not at the main character?
Also you keep bringing up 2010s characters to complain about 90s characters and like, I liked those shows, tons of them, but nobody wants Sanjay and Craig over ember or even Gertie. Loud house is the only thing of note nick has made in the last decade. Most other things barely last a season. They should pick ember all day over pig banana goat cricket. 2010s is practically the dark ages for iconic nicktoons. No one gets on smash for having too many 80s characters, nick stuff is for 90s nostalgia.
Personally I agree with what you say
Though I love the 90s inclusion s from shows like TMNT and Hey Arnold,I feel like they went all out either adding new reps to shows or new characters…from another 90s show
I loved those cartoons but I also enjoy the 2000/2010 shows that aired
My personal pick to be added is Sanjay and Craig.The first season wasn’t the best but every season after gets better and better and it’s actually a good show! They’d have so much potential as a fighter with stages,costumes,moves,voice lines,and Super Attack but they won’t make it in because DLC would probably include more reps from established shows or an a character from an Indie show from the 90s that only a SubReddit worth of people remember
We need more diverse reps from different time periods!!!
That's how it is for fighting games look at Tekken 8 it was reworked from the ground up and many veterans and newcomers from 7 won't be returning but to make up for that everyone moveset has been reworked to feel like a brand new character
So you basically hate that they have more 90's inclusion than 00's
I feel the problem of Nick All Stars is more a flex of "hey look at this character! Look at what cool thing we did here! Isn't this one interesting!?" When most people don't care and just want to see their favorite cartoons and/or mascot in the game. They're trying so hard not to be Smash 64 and avoiding stuffing the roster full of poster children like the plague, but that's exactly what they should be doing. These characters are Iconic for a reason and they are what will sell copies. I'm not sorry, but Arnold himself will sell far more than Grandma Gertie, Danny will sell more than Ember, Lincoln will sell more than Lucy and etc, etc, the list goes on.
Yeah about Timmy turner thats gonna be hell for them because in some parts of the world Disney owns the fairy oddparents
No it's Nelvana it just aired on some Disney owned channel
Avatar is the Fire Emblem of this series.
I think they removed some characters, they removed Helga 😢
You may not.like this roster but you know what they say man, "You get what you get and don't get upset" so be happy for what you get, more characters are on the way
I would kind of agree with this video but then again smash bros has a ton of fire emblem characters in it's roster and some pretty wacky picks like wii fit trainer, duck hunt, R.O.B, and others those guys are not fighters at all but they still got in
Grandma Gerti is a goated Pick. I asked for Grandma Gerti from Hey Arnold she fits perfectly, shes the character I'm second most excited for (First being Azula)
A few suck like Timmy wasn't in the first game and I'm pretty sure he's not in the second game too it's not a Nick crossover game without him.
Odd parents is owned by Disney now not nick.
Really disagree with your take on Ember. She wasnt in the show alot but she is an insanely popular character and not even just because of the mass shooting incident that youre referencing.
I think Fee and Foo from Harvey Beaks should come in next game if Dagget and Norvert get cut to fill the swap character role
We already know Helga's cut and I'm guessing everyone from the last game is cut too and of that's true it's absolutely babys bonkers
the freaking game has DLC already, you can bet why zuko wasnt revealed in the main cast...
Honestly most of the additions are fine. The 90s and 2000s were peak Nickelodeon for me. Im really hoping that there arent any cuts.
I'm hoping for Sid Chang from The Casagrandes. Compared to non-central leads, she's much more deserving.
wheres ZUKO?
I was thinking that 2010 hase no good charthers than you remind me of Sanjey and craig/harvey beaks now i want them really bad
I like the characters that you chose, they would make the game feel more diverse
But Gertie is a weird addition but Gerald is a good choice because of his unique moves, also probably one of the coolest black Nick reps
Also Box Ghost over Ember?... Are you high??!
Fun fact: the readon timmy wasnt in is because of....Of........The House Of Mouse.
This mf really hates fun, oh my god
The reason why it's hard to get Timmy turner they don't own it.Disney and nelvana owns it.some shows on nickelodeon and cartoon network are made by different companies.
They probably intentionally left out characters like Timmy, Snap, Zuko, and Otto because they wanted them to be DLCs because they know characters like them people really wanted and are willing to buy their DLCs even if they're expensive. But, that doesn't mean they needed to add characters like Grandma, Ember, Azula, and Gerald and they didn't need to bring back characters like April O'Neil, Garfield, and Nigel either. Instead of those 3, the only other characters they should have brought are back Lincoln Loud and CatDog. Hey Arnold is a famous show, but they should have used just Arnold instead Gerald and Grandma Gertie. And, if they need more female characters (which is probably why they included Amber and Azula), then they could use characters like Eliza, Reggie, Miko, Luna, and Frida. Also, Ickis would have been a good character
This video aged more badly than a carton of milk that’s been out for three years
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If any thing it aged well considering how terrible the dlc is
They delayed the game to november so they dont have to deal the dogshit in october
Only complaint I have is that they took out Leo and Michelangelo so you can’t have all the turtles
Hard disagree, sorry my dude
The characters that returned and the new have some good moveset, also there's the dlcs that realese next year, so if Timmy Turner is on the dlc then don't cry like a baby because he was not on the main roster (and thank GOD you didn't complain about Garfield, he's op as duck with his lasaga and moveset)
Yeah no. The 90's get represented the most. Because the 90's and 2000's were the golden age of Nickelodeon. They were the time for cartoons. So they want to use characters that represent the Golden age. And yes. I get it. Timmy Turner not being in the game is sad. But honestly. Danny Phantom characters work better. Because Danny Phantom is an action show. And characters can actually fight. Also also. Ember is one of the most popular characters from that series. Plus if ur going to use a female Danny Phantom character. It's Ember
Bro I wanna play as Snap so friggin bad! I wanna play so many different characters from this network, I'm holding hope for good DLC since this starting roster is just purely ass. I'm honestly very sad that Toph didn't make a return as she was my main last game. That being said I would hate if they made their previous installment DLC.
6:37 Now that Zuko is DLC, are you cool with Azula's inclusion?
But Guys, I Miss Tommy Pickles in The Video Games from Nickelodeon 😞
Id take box ghost over ember anyday, he was a part of the story in nicktoons unite. At the start atleast
If timmy is dlc. Would you buy it?
Absolutely. I loved that show. Timmy is one of my favorites