Golf Downswing Lesson | How to get THROUGH the Ball
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Hi Eric, thank you so much for this one. I'm a 12 hcp and having been having issues with consistency and dispersion. I can't wait to go to the driving range and try this. Please remind people to watch this one several times for there are so much to unpack. it felt like this one was specifically made for me!
Love it Daniel!!
Another really great, easily consumable practice technique. Heading out today to work on this. Thanks Eric and Steve!
Thank you! Hope it helps!
Great follow up as requested. Awesome drills and content explanations! You make a great team. More please
Thanks, JT!
Excellent content, the way you take the time to explain in the easiest of detail and include every facet of the drill is a credit to you. Most instructors touch on drills not going to your depth. It gives more confidence and less second guessing that your doing the drill correctly. Obviously in tune with what your viewers want and need.
Thanks, Jimmy! Appreciate that!
I just love that Eric and you are demonstrating the improvement potential for an expert golfer like Eric with some of the 10 words:). Just love the system and how both of your so clearly show us amateurs how we can improve simply. Thank you
Thanks David! Appreciate it!
Eric, I saw your instructions about how to prevent slicing on another channel. Thank you soooooo much. I had the worst slice ever and after applying your technique of a stronger grip I'm now driving the ball straight 300-350 yards CONSISTENTLY!!! I've watched every you tube video under the sun about how to quit slicing the ball but nothing has ever worked until I came across one of your videos. I searched your name and found your channel here. Thank you!!! You're an awesome coach.👏👊👍
Love to hear that my friend! Glad it helped and appreciate the support!!
Love this! Exactly what I need.
Thanks man!
Hei, this was so spot on for me!
I'd like to add that I've also given myself back problems trying to get through the ball without that massive opening up.
I hit twice as many balls today with no back problems.
I kept topping until I fully committed to the lead foot, and timing is naturally a bit off, giving +-30m with a 7-iron. When timing is on, best shots ever.
Love it, Charles!
Wow. Last 2 videos real nice. Glove under right arm and letting head/neck roll with ball. Good feels for me. Thanks for showing yourself with another skilled instructor. Also not crazy feel to implement with a good range session.
Appreciate ya!
Very well thought out presentation…definitely will spend time in my swing lab trying this out
Thank you David!!
Great stuff. I’m suffering from the over hook and some rolling. This is a perfect drill for that. Another way to think of it is keeping the club face in line with the spine through impact and the follow through.
Thanks, Joe!
Fantastic video as usual. Can’t wait to try this at the range tomorrow. I have the roll over issue and ball goes too much right to left and thin every now and then. This surely is a good drill and amazing explanation.
Great one for you here!
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Funnily enough exactly what I’m working on myself. Looking solid Eric. 👌👍💰
:) Thanks Greg!
Eric and Steve, thank you so much for this video! I shot my lowest score ever today, a 75 including a 35 on the front! (My low nine hole score). I’ve watched this video and your other video on getting through the ball daily for the past two weeks, and applying it during my practice sessions. My consistency, ball striking, and distance have all improved dramatically. My head and body following the ball through impact and follow-through without rolling the wrists are just what I needed.Thank you again!
Love to hear that Alton! Great playing my friend!!
nice!!!
Thanks buddy, you’re the best!
Thanks, John!
Outstanding video as usual
Appreciate ya!
i can't wait to try that head turn tomorrow. I was having a hard time turning hips and shoulders and now i see why.
Hope it helps, Richard!
Love this series. It makes me realize even the most knowledgeable golfers still have kinks to work out. This series has greatly helped me with backswing and not coming down steep.
Thanks! Glad it's helped Billy!
Following shot down the line by rotating head is game changer for me. I was surprised how much I restricted head rotation. Now I understand why I have dreaded snap hook. Thanks!!
Eric, It’s amazing how you pop up with a video sometimes that appears to apply directly to me. I’m 61 yes old and have played for 51 yrs. Most of that as a low single digit or plus handicap. With todays technology and reasonable good physical health I still hit nearly as far as ever. Had a five year stretch that I rarely played due to back issues. Maybe 3-4 times a year. 10 yrs ago I started back getting active in the game and at first hit the ball pretty well and played to a 2 handicap. Then out of nowhere I started hitting some hosel rockets and was getting very flippy with my hands. This has been going on now for 5-6 years and honestly nearing a point that I can live without it. Hitting the ball great off the tee only to shoot 80+ because I can’t hit a short iron square in the club face and miss greens. I had some surgery last year and tried to slowly come back and work on impact and while taking 3/4 swings at a slower speed I hit it great and played a few nine holes that I shot par it better. Then as I got healthier and swinging fuller the crap began again. I know I do keep my head down too long in the swing possibly to protect the old back and sometimes early extend to a point that flipping has to happen. The other miss is pulls and pull hooks.
I really need to take these type drills serious slowly going through the process to make this more second nature to regain control of the club face. But as soon as I hit a few good ones I think I’m healed. I live in Jacksonville FL area and have had trouble finding a trusted advisor/pro to dedicate my time to for checkups. It’s either that or buy a boat!!
Haha hope this helps Bill!
Why dont you take advantage of our free 14 day trial to www.cogornogolf.com
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Wow what a great lesson , thanks gents !
Thank you!👊
I love the videos you guys do together. Dig Steve's philly accent.
:) Thanks!
Exactly what I needed!
I am (well, was, at least... :D ) a single hcp player returning to golf after a "short" 20-ish years break, I found myself doing exactly the same inside-out swing with heavy rolling of my wrists - because that is how I was taught "back in the day" - causing thin hits, really bad attack angle and compression of the ball, resulting in the ball going way left.
Will take this back to the range and hopefully straighten out those hooks/pulls! :)
Hope it helps!
This is so useful. I tend to roll the wrists which leads to hooks, thins and the occasional mis-hit going right; all caused by being stuck behind the ball. After trying this better release procedure, I'm hitting the ball so much better - further up the clubface, straighter and higher. Thank you very much - this has really addressed issues which affect my swing.
Love to hear that Barry!! Our pleasure!
Love this. My bad shots are always hooks. I think this kind of release will really help with that.
Thanks, Mike! Hope it helps!
I think this may have saved my game can’t wait to try it
fingers crossed :)
Will be trying this
Hope it serves you well!
Really interesting lesson. I like you how you are humble enough to take advice from another instructor.
Appreciate it Joe! Thanks for watching!
Cool golf tips
Thanks!
Excellent video. The tour striker ball ( or any other on Amazon) that Justin Rose uses is a fantastic training aid for this drill.
Thank you!
Thanks Cogorno Golf. Great videos and keep 'em coming. Do your lessons have packages?
Thanks Juan!
Here is the link for more info on what's all included in our membership:
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Always feel free to reach out to us with any questions. Would love to have you join the team!
Every golfer in the world, I dare say, has heard ... keep your head down, stay behind the ball, watch the club head hit the ball ... this is the first time I have ever heard to let your head follow the ball. And it makes perfect sense ... I have noticed in my own swing that I tend to stop rotating at impact and of course, the wrists must turn over... Back to the punch drill for me ... Head on the wall, follow the ball ... My new mantra! Once again, gotta luv Steve!
First time? Weird...
:)
Geeez! Your old swing (follow through) looked exactly how I was taught too.
Rolling the wrist over, wow! That really dates us both......I like the holding off (wrist) not hands rolling over feel......
I guess an ole dog can learn new tricks!...
:)
This is exactly me. My misses are hooks and thins. Great video!
Thanks!
This is a great video.👍🏻 The last time I was on Trackman I was dumped under the plane 9-10 degrees. My turn has stalled at impact for a long time. I didn’t get much feedback on how to correct these issues, but this should give me some great things to work on to start hitting the ball like I did in my early 20s(20 years ago). Thank you sir!😀👍🏻
You got it!
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@@CogornoGolf thank you again, sir! I wanted to be sure I was clear....I didn’t get much “feedback” from the (local) instructor that pointed out I was 9-10 under-plane. I was like, “yeah, I understand that. Two-way misses, and struggling to make contact is understandable now, but what do I do?” Thank you for reaching out to help me, man!!! I’ve struggled, and severely deteriorated for 15-20 years in golf, and the last time I played I tried to take the club back “hooded”, and it made a drastic difference! I felt my hips rip through impact a few times, and I’d convinced myself that just wasn’t possible anymore. I started hitting the ball much more solid, and picked up 15 yards with my irons immediately. I still struggled off the tee, though. My poor shot was basically a straight “pop-up”. I’m pretty sure I was getting quick, and steep. Your videos, and communication have encouraged me to keep searching though, and for that.....I thank you! If you were closer, I’d schedule a lesson tomorrow! Thank you very much!👍🏻👍🏻
Appreciate the kind words and support! Would love to help!! Consider joining our team at www.cogornogolf.com so we can work together!
My heroes!!!
:)
I thought this was me for a second... Steve is really, really good at explaining this on this video.
:)
Ooooooooooohhhhh boy. This is my problem. Strikes always felt pure and they’d start on y line but I got that hook. Could never put a name to my fault.
Thanks dude
Hope it helps!!
A touch of S and T here. Steve is great!
Steves awesome!!
I’m a low hc player, and this hit home for me. On bad days, I suffer from overdraws, and hooks. This is exactly why. Body stalls, which forces the face to roll over. On good days, I think down, under, and through. The down part keeps me from swinging too flat, and swinging the club out too much, through impact. The under part makes me keep my right side bend, and allows me to naturally keep the face square longer. And, the through part makes me rotate, and extend through the ball. These motions make me feel like I’m gonna slice it off the planet, but the ball flight ends up being a straight ball, or just a slight little baby fade. I think the 2 key moves for golf are side bend, and rotation. However, they MUST be done together. Side bend without rotation will have you hitting behind the ball, or hitting the ball too high. Rotation without right side bend will have your shoulders too level through impact, and pull hooking it off the planet(in my case anyways). Any thoughts? Correct me, if I’m wrong. I truly respect your knowledge.
Thats correct
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Great timing. For some reason this exact thing crept into my game today. It sucks when you focus on something to get consistency but wreck your swing while doing it. How these things creep in, I’ll never know why I let them, but they always do. Thanks
I heard one older pro say building a golf swing is not like building a house its like tending a garden. The weeds keep on coming you have to stay on top of it!
@@CogornoGolf so true, so very true.
This is the money move right here
Yessir!
Hello Eric, I myself have been having trouble over turning the ball. I found out that in my setup my club face was a little shut. I checked my grip and found out my right hand was a little strong. After adjusting this and setting it more neutral with my thumb and pointer finger pinched together I noticed the club face set square but now I have to adjust to this. These drills you show look like something I should try but haven’t been able to get out to practice because of heat here in CA where I live.
Sounds like you're heading on the right track! If you have any troubles check out www.cogornogolf.com you can send in your swings there so we can check them out and help!
I love this for when the danger is all left of you on a shot. But when I do this the face is more lofted at impact and you lose a club or two distance so is this more suited to mid to short iron approaches? Would you do this for hybrid and woods? A driver like this would slice wouldn’t it ?
Hey Tony!
Great questions!
Your questions are bases on the presumption that the face is more lofted....I did not find that to be true.
If that is the case I would assume you are over doing it and or dont need more of this in the first place.
Keep in mind I needed that because I was over doing some of the following through pieces....MANY MANY MANY golfers do not fit into that same category.
I would need to see your swing to advise with more detail on what exactly you should/shouldnt do!
Great video Eric..keep an eye on your left arm..also should be straight at impact..but this was a amazing video..would like to see that with driver...thanks
Thank you!
Really enjoyed the video.
I appreciate you are using an iron in the video.
I'm interested to know what your thoughts are in relation to using a driver.
I appreciate their is differences between with irons in the golf swing but I have been working on the head movement and the arm/ movement (moving inwards) with the driver.
Had consistent results with this feel.
Usually have hook/push shots with driver.
Appreciate your thoughts.
Generally speaking the topics we discussed in this video would apply the same for driver
Thank you for your reply Eric.
Keep up the great work you do.
Seems like some Sam Goulden Square to Square movements here, especially in the follow through. Great video.
Thanks, Kyle!
i saw myself on video the other day, horror show re follow through, ie the high handicapper (i play off 18), butt end of club really close to chest, very narrow, bent arms etc. Loving this vlog as a great way to widen and straighten follow through. To keep it simple though, is it ok to end with straight arms? By that I mean without feeling like you still have to wrap club around shoulders Ben Hogan style. I can deal with looking crap, I want to max my swing first and foremost and not get too hunched up in follow through
You can finish with arms straight is OK
As I watch Eric's old swing (roll your wrist) and the swing Steve is teaching I wonder about the speed of the club face that seems to be lost by less wrist action (it looks like you are blocking the ball). Can you explain if (and how) Steve's approach is consistent with those instructors who teach lag or a whipping action of the club?
Hey Walter!
What we are taking out here is specifically excessive arm rotation.
Lear arm supination, trail arm pronation.
You need some of that (in fact a bunch) but you can OVERDO anything (which is my fault). Its a good fault...like too much money so you have a big tax bill.
I do not see this effective lag nor whipping action either way. Separate deal.
this is the very problem I was experiencing yesterday! During downswing, I was trying to keep my head still, the the flipping happened.
:)
Who is the fella teaching you?...between the two of you the clarity is outstanding.
Thanks, Bruce!
That is Steve Sieracki! One of our fellow coaches at www.cogornogolf.com
Great guy and awesome coach!
I hit to the right all the time. I am diffidently👍 going to practice this.
Hope it helps, Mike!
Please explain the pros/cons of the differences in release pattern at 5:35. Eg how much lead arm supination should you have?
Hey there!
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Hi Eric，It's great. I try my 7 iron today, and find that the club head speed can up to 78 mph. Much more faster than previous and the ball also straight. However, Is it the main point is to keep the hip and shouder turn while up swing and down swing？
Yes
Feeling the left side of the neck, turn during the downswing, looks like a game changer for me. Allowing the right side muscles of the neck to turn during the back swing should also be beneficial.
yes!
is this the topic regarding on club face squaring by body rotation VS wrist rotation?
Hey! You could look it it that way if you like!
Good afternoon! And the same principle is for the driver?
Yes
Yay! No roll!
I'm gonna get you in my camp someday Eric. Lead with the heel both sides You watch.
Milo showed a better way to do this drill last week.
Thanks!
I hit a lot of thin hook shots, looking at some videos I'm still looking at the ground most of the way through the follow through.
This would be a good one for you then!!
Eric, Great video for lots of reasons. Who is the instructor “Steve” ? Is he part of Cogorno Golf? Thank you!
Thank you John!
Steve Sieracki teaches out of New Jersey and with us over at cogornogolf.com!
Here is more on Steve: stevesierackigolf.com
Steve mentioned that this particular drill is not what the fader/slicer should work on. The avg golfer (me) struggles with the ball going right. What should we do differently?
interesting.... so, would this also help with clubhead path going out to right field and more to center field?
Yes! This would make the path less to the right
@@CogornoGolf so, i really like this. the part i have trouble with is the head thing. i know this will take a long time to engrain. i got out yesterday and did the ground drill b4 each swing but the real swing was different and produced a hand full of thin or bladed shots. as though i was standing up at impact. i have always been a right shoulder dominate back and through just to keep the strain off of my left shoulder (it needs replaced) but i can engaged the left more at slower swing speeds. overall, i struck the ball better (not farther, more control) and the misses led to some big numbers. but only 4 holes.
i guess my ? is.....if my exit continues to be lower and more left, is moving the head up that critical? i think i should keep doing the ground drill b4 each shot and see how it all goes. your thoughts?
Even though I am an Aussie, I feel that we had the same golf coach! 🤣. All your issues are what I have and I was taught them all as a youngster. My pop used to rave about Gary Player but I was all about Jack and Greg Norman. Somehow I think my Pop was on the right track. To swing upright with a rotating club face, and not a rotating body with square club face, is very difficult and you must have excellent hand eye coordination - something you lose as you get older. I am now on a mission to flatten my swing plane and ROTATE thru the ball! Thanks again Eric, these videos have been very insightful and very helpful. Cheers
:) Appreciate ya, Paul!
Looks very Stack 'n Tilt! I think the Stack 'n Tilt book says arms in 20 degrees at arm parallel on the backswing and the follow through and they don't roll the hands. It's also a Hardy one plane swing. Your old swing, the one with more roll is a one plane swing. Just thinking out loud.
No it is just rotational. It is just about minimizing face rotation
Thanks for feedback! I wouldn't say these moves are part of any system....just one of the components of a good swing!
Hi great video. I'm a hook sufferer, especially with the driver. This seems to help but I do lose club head speed as I feel a bit like a cricketer doing a block shot. Definitely straighter though. How do you increase clubhead speed with this technique
Thanks! Eventually turn the follow through into a full swing
Thanks Eric I will give it a go
Would be great if you guys could do one for all of us slicers! Thanks
Hey Doug! Hope this one helps!
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Hey guys , this follow through looks like you have a “ Plane mate “ hooked up on ya , I think of Zac Johnson when I see this low , single plane release .
Yep! That would be a good training aid for this one!
We did a video on the plane mate with Martin here: czcams.com/video/5VsJ5Yh1OZw/video.html
How to avoid pulling these smaller shots?
Since there is no, or very little, transition I find it hard to get the club shallow enough without having a very shallow backswing.
Definitely have to keep an eye on it to keep downswing shallow. Avoid opening torso TOO soon and make sure backswing neutral.
Gonna try this drill today, but I'm worried that by drilling in purposely hitting the ground before hitting the ball I will be ingraining that into my course shots and will be bringing in a whole new issue in starting to hit balls FAT. I get what this is supposed to do but how do we not ingrain the FAT shot by doing this drill? Thanks, as always, Eric!
Hey Kevin!
Why would you purposely hit the ground before hitting the ball? Thats not what Steve is saying.
He is just saying to hit the ground. Of course that it after the ball.
Do you focus on keeping your left wrist firm?
In this particular video I was not
you achieved that using the Hangar
Yep!!
Please give more details with left wrist and club face going to finish. Big frustration with this drill (swing left, stable release, baseball drill you name it) though, for who in self learning SnT, i.e: compared with how Mike Bennets hitting with long irons or the driver in slow motion, nothing similar with what you are describing. His club face points 45 degrees down from P7.5 and P8. Difference from drills to reality is killing me.
Hey! Would need to see more of your swing to say what YOU would need more of.
Toe right on top of the heel would be good for little draws.
My tendency is face too tilted down so for me I have to feel more of toe right of heel
A golfer who has face too open will need to feel toe left of heel
Toe right on top of heel is a good checkpoint for neutral flight
This guy is such a good coach. Not the best Eric but close! Ha
No, Eric is the best. The visual and feel instruction he gives is top notch.
thanks, guys! Steve is awesome!
Would this be more of a “body” release? I find when I do this on the course, my shots are extra crispy, but also lower.
Yep
Can this guy coach me? I’ve done this on a range, but not knowing what my goal was, just in randomly trying to hit solid shots. Usually, starting back to “I hit solid punch and pitch shots”, and I revert to getting that feeling.
Appreciate you being with us!
Coaching is offered here:
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Would love to have you join the team!
Just to add Eric..if you could add a video with a break down in each step of the downswing would be helpful..even 50 yard shots ..club back. Hip open hit the ball ..head lift?
Thanks, Edward! Maybe a future one!
Eric / Steve: How does that type of swing translate to a 3-Wood (or does it?)
Hey! I would same same principles here would apply for all clubs
Would love a video to see Eric using that swing method with a wood & driver.
Wow. Your original follow through with the rolling of the wrists/hands looks normal and what I thought we see with tour players. My follow through is less roll/release and looks like your new fix, and I always thought I needed to get more roll/release.
Depends some on your ball flight currently and desired flight
hey, this goes to anyone who sees it, i’m 14 and a +0.3 handicap my school just got over and now it is summer and i am going to practice sooo much, what would be a good goal for my handicap by then? Thanks to anyone who responds and have a great day!
The touring pros are converting upwards of 85% of pitch shots and chip shots; that's 1 pitch and 1 putt vs 1 pitch and 2 putts. I was pumped today when I converted 64%. So I suggest you work on those 50 yards and shorter shots so you can 1 putt at a high conversion rate and your scores will improve.
Gonna have to unlearn 50 years of “head down; shake hands on the follow-through” hand rotation. Has led to a lot of thins, pushes, and hooks. This does explain why I see a lot of tour players with their right arm across their chest and cupped left wrist at completion of their iron shots, though. If it wasn’t raining right now, why I’d…
And another thing, this might finally explain Anika Sorenstam’s follow-through all these years later. Watch her head.
100%
If you get thins, pushes and hooks with that follow through you are a prime candidate for this!! Like me :)
Almost the look of David Duval
Yes----that would be the feel!
If you keep the shoulderplane during the downswing ,the left shoulder will automatically move left and out of the way
Hey Eben! Not for everyone!
In fact if I know one thing to be true over my 14 years of coaching its that "automatically" rarely applies when you have a big enough sample size.
you boys have a great future....working in your local batting cage 🙄 🏏
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Fred couples through impact, he wasn’t bad
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butter cuts all day!
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Annika Sorenstam and Hendrik Stenson both turn their heads. Annika starts before she hits the ball. Pretty good results.
Yep!
Good luck with this swing change. It may be easier to to switch from a righty to a lefty ,or vice/versa, than to get this move down unless your scratch. If you are scratch you probably are already successful with your swing and may need a tweak occasionally but not this drastic swing change. Of course I could be wrong....
Thanks for watching and the feedback Daniel!
I should be seeing the club hit the ball first?
Yes
Don't you think now you creating the slice
Hey!
Nope....just LESS HOOK for me
That's a replica of Zak Johnsons swing and he's done ok 😅😅🤑
He's not bad :)
I know I have made this comment before... which I learned from an old touring pro, Keep your eyes on where the ball is, not where the ball was.
Love that, Frank!
Depends on what you want to do. No such kind of thing at all.
Not sure what you mean, but thanks for watching!