Stop OverProducing Your Beats! You Dont Need That Many Sounds!
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- If you want the Best out of your Musical Productions, stop overproducing your beats. Let discuss that today and let me know your thoughts! Comment Below⬇️
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I needed this ,because i over think my tracks .
Same here. Alot of it comes from having the same plugins i need to expand but when i do come up with a nice melody i tend to try to add alot on top of it
I do to bro 🤦🏽♂️
I think this is one of the biggest things for us older producers. I had to realize this about 6 months ago.
Your right, if you started making beats between 2006 to 2014 you probably over produced because back then 1 finger melodys were normal and the sounds were thinner. Now chords can fill a lot of space.
What could I say? I am already 46 years old and, oddly enough, I am growing quite well now in music, everything seems to be just beginning. It's impossible to stop, that's what I feel :-)
We are in the dumbest generation they are too easy to please smh
Theres a whole lot more than just beats if you are a Producer. I started off as a beat Maker in the early 2000s before I became a Record Producer producing the entire song from start to finish. What you want is not an overall produced song as a whole. That includes the Songwriting and Arrangment, Vocal Production, the Musical Arrangement parts or any live instrumentation. I produce records outside of Hip Hop as well as I do produce rock and metal. I'm currently working with this new band right now. Some songs I work on may be already written that are song demos and I analyze what needs work and then I would polish the record. You figure what's missing but don't add too much rather its 3 part vocal harmony, backing vocals or horn or string part.
@ANTAGONIST BEATS
Yea and when people see its really no more integrity in it they just do whats gon bring the quickest dollar. It is more bread in it but we had to sacrifice the substance.
I'm a minimalist. I produce that 90's style boom bap. Simple & to the point. Phat samples for the core of the beat & a couple extra sounds to sprinkle on top & that's it!! 👊🏾💯
Damn right!
Snap ...boombap all the way
I think it’s best to make a “skeleton beat” first then have the artist or artists record their vocals. After they records their verses, then the producer can build the sounds around the beat and listening to the vocals so that way you can sequence the song better. That’s how Dr. Dre, Kanye, DJ Quik and Bad Boy producers did it. Don’t add too much and don’t add too little. Even producers like Jake One, The Neptunes, Sha Money XL, Nottz and Scott Storch do the same thing. Too many sounds can cover up the track. Scott Storch call it “sandbagging”.
We call it “Skeleton Beats” 👍🏾
Nick mira did that in some or one of his videos
@@BoloDaProducer yeeeee
now i know what my beats are called 😅
@@BoloDaProducer Yes that’s the correct term lol.
I overproduce a lot but I get rid of things towards the end. Its so much easier when you have vocals already or the artist is recording.
I usually sing on a vocal track early on in my beats then remove it when I'm done. Helps me simulate and retain that space for a vocalist.
Great idea
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Thanks... this is a life hack lbs
This is so true. I think a listener wants to hear maybe half the variation that we producers think they need.
Bolo is that guy! He is the beginners producer FAVORITE PRODUCER
Bro the pros favorite as well
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Very true...I used to overproduce when I started making beats and artists always used to tell me that they couldn't find space to add their own vocals. The way I think of it is like a painting, as producers its our duty to add the structure and a few colors here and there but leave the rest of the canvas with space so that the artist can add more color and complete the painting. Thank you for the tip bro!!
But for Movie or TV show scoring you add more instruments. I do agree with you don't cluster the beats its about the vocal being able to sit comfortable.
As an engineer I really appreciated what you said about not having space. Those sessions are the hardest when you’re trying to give everyone what they want (upfront vocal, every little extra element in the beat clear and punching). I get it, people love what they make, but it usually leads to at least one day with zero results and lots of friction until people get on the same page with the realities of the track and start allowing you to make some room.
Word!
About over producing: I come from a sort of classical/orchestral mentality. Every instrument has it is own role; it is not really about how many instruments are involved into a production but in my opinion how many roles are being played and how many of them are overlapping. The overlap is the issue. Every producer or composer, when adding parts to their crafts should be asking themselves which seats aren’t already busy because there really is just so much room in our brains when listening before everything will be easily perceived as chaos and having more than one thing doing "the-same-but-different-thing" is the fastest route to aural mayhem.
Big ups form a producer who quit iPad producing because in desperate need of overproducing😂
I totally agree with everything Bolo said.....I've produced stuff with nearly 50 tracks and ended up using 16. Submixing some stuff can help to keep things organized too!
I feel it can help to make one element the focus at a time, whether its bass, drums, melody or some chords etc, and either cut other elements or switch them to compliment the main focus. Keep bringing in something new to keep things fresh and then blend elements together once people have had time to get used to each, like having just bass and drums during a heavy bass drop, cutting out the melody, then bring the melody back in on top with the bass once its had some time to shine. Keeps things clean and can turn a few small decent ideas into a well sequenced dope track. Its good to remember people cant focus on too many things all at once if theres tons of complex layers that change up quickly all the time, making things too busy like that can just sound offputting and clashes to a lot of people. Lots of layers can make each shine less if all played at once too if the sounds dip into eachothers frequency range, making things sound wrong or too weak. Best to limit how many sounds are in the same frequency range so everything can play at once and have its own place and all shine together, learning to EQ and mix can help smooth it all out and fix clashes, a common example is too many bass sounds in the same range or trying to have a really powerful bassy kick along with a powerful subby bassline without mixing properly or composing to give each some space. Knowing that sorta stuff can help writing songs easier off the bat too cuz you can just focus on ideas you know work together naturally in production. Best of luck everybody out there
I’ve always approached my music from a simplistic standpoint. The simpler the better. Matter of fact my whole life is predicated on simplicity. Whenever things get complicated everything suffers.
I come back here often to keep myself grounded, if overproduction was a person it’d be me. Trying to get to a sweet spot in production where I know enough is enough
How is it going ?
Amazing insight & video. This opens up the ability also to make more beats with less frustration because you’re not trying to perfect a beat with so much competing within the track, and it allows you to crank out more tracks because they are simpler & therefore quicker.. great points bro 🔥🔥🔥
Bolo, you hit us hard. Yeah, Im trapped with over production of unnecessary tracks, that it's too tight for artistry
Maaaan you know we bopped to that classic bolo stop playing 😂😂😂😂
Haaaaa thumbs up before even watching this. It’s hard to hold back when your compute power, VST selection and HD space is beyond godly. Lotta kids today become engineers before they become musicians. It’s easier to teach engineering than style am I right about that? Word up.
My “formula” for backing tracks. If there’s a singer in it, no sampling will exist. But if there’s a rapper in it, sampling will be employed.
Downtempo smooth jazz R&B (a la Paul Hardcastle):
Drums: usually a high hat, snare (often alternating between a side stick and a snare, two different snare sounds, two different side stick sounds, side stick and a finger snap, finger snap and snare), and kick, may add rides, Toms, & crash to add transition and signals for a section
Bass
Rhodes
The verse will be drums, bass, & Rhodes or also have a pad in it
The chorus will add hi strings & bells when necessary (usually 7-9 tracks for a backing track)
But in a “rap song”:
Drums will be hihat, snare, kick & nothing more
Sample
Filtered sample when needed
Bass
May add Rhodes, pads, hi string & bells for interest
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Man, this is so true, I have put together some beats where it's just muddy when I step back and listen. I guess it's easy to be in the music and forget the experience from the outside. Good stuff. You just confirmed one of my many errors, more bass and more kicks, which often means I don't complete the beat as I'm trying to mangle it all together. Many years ago I created a beat for a friend to sing to in a club, man, the moment they played it, I wanted to run and hide, the bass swamped everything and was not even clean and clear, the concept of mixing for different mediums was not even on my radar for me. Less is more in so many cases. I'm learning. Thanks again.
I’m getting back into making music after all these years and I had this thought about simplicity vs too much going. I’m glad this video found its way to me. I’m going to challenge myself and see what I’m made of using less sounds.
Well said. I totally agree with you Bolo. In my personal experience, I like listening back to my music and I find myself liking the ones with less elements the most. Even when I play my music for others, they often prefer the ones with simple drums and instrumental arrangements instead of ones with intricate chord changes and technical arrangements. Ever since I realized this I always try to create beats with a level of simplicity. Great video 👍👏🏼
Thanks for this. I'm starting to dig into producing on a professional capacity and I KNOW I would've been pissed if I started learning layering and mixing before I saw this. Now I can try not to murder my tracks thinking that complexity = likeablility.
Yeahhh your right. Scott Storch use to talk about this all the time in interviews.
He even said that drum sounds are very important and, how and what frequency tunning you should use when mixing a kick drum. In which he said the kick drum is usually between 55 to 60 Hz.
Awesome instructional video. I have to agree. I have noticed a lot of Hip Hop, Trap and Dance tunes of today do not have a lot of elements. I have to keep reminding myself about that as well.
Thanks for reinforcing that tip.
Agree totally bass kick snare hats cymbals lead melody and maybe a few accents pieces here and there is always more than enough
I like using a lot of sounds in one beat. I will stop and use less sounds. Thanks Bolo!!!!!!!
This the best producer channel
Thanks Bolo! I have struggled with this for over a year. Funny how it's harder to leave space than to over produce. I always have that feeling like somethings missing and the beat needs more. The answer is the artist is missing. Now I am leaving my beats open and I am stereo panning almost all my melodies all the time.
My brother I Soooooo totally agree I’m going back in time to production. There are way to many sounds in music these days and NO playing live. Check this as an example lay your base drum track down and play live over the whole full 4 minutes it’s more organic and it’s live just try it you will be amazed at the results and edit the parts that are fire a splice then together on your choice of DAW. I’m from Minneapolis my brothers I am with you.
Simple beats are better in the long run for sure
Thanks for the re-focus. I do forget and carried away 😂
That's a good shout, big homie. Thank you.
I know i struggle with this..thanks for the info
I'm not gonna lie, I'm addicted to woosh transition sound effects.
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Every best. They really tie transitions together I rarely use anything else
Try and get “Quantum Trailer Sound Effects” from “AVA Instinct” a lot of cinematic woosh trailer sound effects there.
The smile back then let me know back then you would do big things. They laugh now they cry later. Go Bolo..
Simple beats simple bass lines are the best. Eric sermon is the king!!$$$
Shout out to Bolo!! Much love and respect for what you do!! I'm here 2 years later and it still relevant...
Good game the real part is you back it up in your music for those who want to step there game up bookmark this video big ups to Bolo.
Nothin but fax here. Timbo calls it extra sauce. You don't wanna add a whole different sauce cuz then there's no space.
Every piece of this video is what i leart past 5 yrs ……..gods truth !! This hit me hrard
Love the energy G one love
I been saying this for a long time as well. All the facts!
I needed to hear this. I always have at least 10 tracks for a beat. Used to be 13 so, I'm working my way down.
Yes sir, take the minimum approach and listen after the artist adds verse and if the song needs more add it then, but don’t over do it
Yo! I think using your produced tracks could be an excellent reference tracks for all your followers to using them like model to inspire there own productions. Keep’on produce! 🤙🏻
Good advice. I've always kept it simple.
Heyyyyy i am so guilty of that. I try and mix my own product at a beginners level and u just brought to the light. Great topic! Thanks Bolo
You know what they say, less is more. 👍👍🔥🔥
Thanks for the jewels 💎
Much Luv n respect
That's SOLID advice!
So true! Less is more!
Same with Vocal Production, you don't want to over do it. I make the beats, play the instrument parts and cut the vocals as I see a record from its initial concept to its final mix. You don't want an over crowded arrangment, what you want is learning how to compliment instruments.
Good advice...
This is one of the greatest advice I have ever heard. I usually make music many times with limited sounds because I don't want the track to be congested with so many sounds you can't hear the beat. Sometimes I feel when someone does that it's because of their ego. Sometimes simple is effective. Many times when it has too many sounds you cannot identify the song. One of my favorite albums is Queen Latifah's Black Reign with Kaygee of Naughty By Nature who produced the album. That is one of my favorite productions of all times because of the production sounds. You need to hear the album with headphones on to understand when you get time. Thanks for the video this is awesome....100
i throw every idea on a beat and then start deleting parts that stick out after a while, become annoying, or too dominant, etc.. production is reduction. Reduction is a musical term actually, you can look it up on Wikipedia. You carve out the essentials to make a song easier to follow or practice. This technique also helps avoiding clutter in a beat. If there are 3 basslines that kinda work together (but really are too much) then find the one that carries the most essence and delete the rest.
So right! I'm a beginner producer & I used to think that I needed more sounds to produce a good track. Less is more.
thank you
This changes all i know🔥
Humble Advice🙏🤘
Important message! Respect!
I always made sure the verse section was sxaled down for the artist. The busiesr part of my tracks is usually the top and the chorus sections. Excellent vid Brother Bolo!
Truth be told.
Great!!!! advice nice way to break that down 💯💯
Thanks for the content
A great artist mentor once said to me...."all emphasis is no emphasis!.🤔
😂 I said it with you at the same time 0:53 it took me by surprise too cause I've seen like 4 of your videos. Thanks, great content!!!!!!!!!!
Tru fact bolo for sure. I started doing this months ago.
I respect your views. You are on point.
Yeah i feel you, but my motto is whatever feels good, sometimes its less and sometimes its more. but never overthink it.
Thank you Bolo
You don’t know how much I agree with you. Don’t get me wrong some beats are ok with more than 6 or 7 sounds but it’s not necessary. 🎹🔥
I feel yo bro..
Last night the kick and the snare had a plan of attack on me, but the hi hat gave up their tight relationship and told me.
No waiting what the 2 808's, keys, synths, vocal chops and 22 to other tracks think about it, otherwise, i leaving this mother
This was great advice because I overthink too much.
He has helped me alot
I use a guitar, a good sub bass and maybe some strings or another bass to go with the sub, and then simple drums. Thats it.
Bolo is the man.
Facts
Lmao!!! We all do it at one point or another right? My layout now a days would be one of each Bass, Lead, Keys, and Synth depending on feel. Drum wise I use one kick, snare, clap and 3 different hi-hats that I alternate to give variation. Keep it simple an you will get placements in time. I agree with BOLO on beat tapes and going ham on them to show case but.....when making for artists think of the artist as another instrument. Good job BOLO great content always informative!
💯, it's all in the subtleties and the notes that aren't played that make a beat a classic.
The majority of my favorite house tracks are literally a 909 drum machine and the sampler-of-the-day. When you are writing music for a club system, simple is usually better. That "space" you are talking about makes a HUGE difference in how the track hits.
I needed to hear this. I be trying so hard to be the mf Neptune’s 😂
Same bruh. Thing is the Neptunes ain't even use a lot of sounds as well their shit is simple but groovy
Same man i add alot sometimes. This is gold.
Clips and The Neptunes go hard tho lol
It's because their sounds were nice and thick, fl studio 8 and older had a flat sound engine so you had to layer sounds to get that full sounds plus most producers didn't know music theory. Lex luger didn't know music theory. Most of his beats were 1 finger melodies loaded with other sounds.
Yea but when we hear songs on radio the instrumentation sounds complex cause of vocals. That's why I started downloading the instrumentals of popular songs to remind myself to quit trying to add sounds lol.
You know what. I never thought about it in this way because I learned to mix with live drummers (heavy metal). The principle is the same though I think I just never looked at it in this way. Thank you, sir cause learning is fun. Every time a day I learn something new it is a good day.
Great Channel👍🏻Greetings from Germany
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I was told a long time ago…… “human ear can only recognize or focus on two sounds”….. beat and then melody….. pick what will be focused on within the song….
Then explain why I can't hear way more than that.
Some people just have poor attention spans and think they're entitled to speak for the rest of us
Beat and melody aren't sounds either. You're one of the people I'm talking about apparently
@@millyoneyedeaz1350 “some people have poor attention spans”…… that’s your average music listener…… YOU listen to more cause that is you, a person who produces music, not the average person who consumes music…… there is only “beats and melodies” in music and it has to produce a sound for you to hear it. And most of all, I never said I was speaking for anyone. This is what I learned from multiple engineers and producers while working in a studio.
@@Bernz66 Quit trying to walk it back. You made a claim about THE HUMAN EAR, that's a different argument than what you're trying to make now. BEFORE I produced music, I could do this. Yet again you make too many assumptions. That's called protecting your preconceived notions, otherwise you would ASK questions instead of make those presumptuous about my heating abilities
@@Bernz66 and as I said before BEATS and MELODIES are not sounds themselves, they are principles we use to describe structures. Beat refers to the pulse/meter and melodies are the rhythmic patterns placed within that. Sounds are individual vibrations. The average listener hasn't always been this sonically lazy. You're talking to someone from an era where the majority of the music was different sounding, complexity of lyrics was revered. None of this refers to my fellow musicians. This was everybody I knew. The average listener TODAY has been conditioned away from these things. It's beyond delusional to claim this was how the average person always been with music. The standard just got lower and lower over time. End of the day it's not true to make the statement you made period. I don't care what you heard somewhere. I've been like this my entire life, only a musician half of it, and I'm hardly some rare case. There is a reasons most songs NOW are 2 mins, barely with 3 verses,etc. Whereas OLDER music was 3 1/2,- 12 mins a song. Those compositions were ALSO MADE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. This is a problem ALL ART FORMS suffer from. Movies are now made in simplistic microwave formats just as music is, and the past of that medium was ALSO MORE COMPLEX. Same way alot of film audiences are jaded with short attention spans, it wasn't the case back then
yeah, we didn’t even bother mastering that one..
YEAH BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU MAKE SOUNDS SICK!!!! 👊🏽❤️😅
on a serious note, though. when you create music on here to educate us, the sounds are already HOT! meaning, when you come to mix, it’s already sounding dutty 🇯🇲 (dutty/sick/hard etc)
i remember you made a video on gain staging, but like you said, if the sounds are good in the first place (decent sound module, synth, vst) there is no need for it!
when i found your channel i was using 20+ channels making beats. now use 8-10 and it sounds twice as good with HALF the audio tracks..
that is the benefit of having your knowledge, advice and wisdom on youtube. thank you. let me know how much you want to critique 2-3 of my beats one day please 🙏🏽
Rocking with you BOLO !!!!
feel that bro.. appreciate the advice! I was thinking my beat sounded empty the other day. I then added loads of strings but it just feels messy when i spit over it. I see my error now!
I’m not done watching the video but before I forget, @bolo I’m looking forward to that beat tape💯
THANK U SO MUCH SIR FOR YOUR ADVICE
Start producing for artist and stop trying to impress other producers...
Dope video my guy⬆️⬆️⬆️
Facts this comment needs to be pinned to the top
Facts! 💯👌🏾🗣🎤🎧🎶🎵 I am a gospel artist and you preaching to the people in the back.🖐🏿
Makes Sense! School Emm.
Good words bro!
You make the beat the way you want to make it...Bolo smoking that stuff!!!!
That sliding lead on Silento's track blew it up, imo.
Purity VST 👍🏾
@@BoloDaProducer aha! Lol good stuff. Cheers.
@@MvnStn yea its the vst kinda...but check the melody notes and chords too.
My guy couldn't of said it any better.
Good advice bro! 👍🏽