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- Mark Schlereth joins Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes on First Things First to discuss the San Francisco 49ers current quarterback situation with Jimmy Garoppolo out for the remainder of the season with a broken foot. Broussard weighs in on the injury and explains Garoppolo will leave San Francisco as one of the winningest quarterbacks of all time. Nick explains 49ers backup quarterback Brock Purdy will be able to maintain the offense because it was designed with quarterback at low priority. The group explore the possibility of former Carolina Panthers quarterback Baker Mayfield signing with the 49ers and debate whether the Miami Dolphins were exposed in their 33-17 loss to the 49ers.
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Tua, Dolphins fall to 49ers 33-17, Jimmy G out for season w/ broken foot | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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Did Chris Broussard get his teeth done
Does he still think they're pathetic!?
Brady goes to the niners !! He needs to get out of the neighborhood anyway.
Wildes was petty for that comment 😂😂 “baker asked for his release and then said yea cool” 😂😂😂
That was incredible
Masterful.
Wildes is a national treasure
Didn't even get the comment correct...
I wS thinking
Wilds is wild for dat ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
People think that Purdy has to be Mahomes or Burrow when he just has to be Garoppolo and just get the ball out quick to the right guys
If he is Garoppolo, they can get to the Super Bowl, but they still can’t win it
But he’s not Jimmy
But he's not jimmy
You forgot josh allen too. Lol
Or he could be Nick Foles 🤷🏾♂️ I don’t think he will be but it’s a possibility.
Comes in and saves the 49ers when Lance goes down, then goes down for Purdy to take over. Narrative wise, this season might have saved Jimmy's career
Not if Purdy gets to the Super Bowl
He saved the 49ers by starting , regardless of Lance's injury. Niners would be a 3 win team with Lance
I love watching sports commentary shows and IMO....this is the best of the bunch. Mark is a huge addition in NFL analysis.
He need a better shirt tho only one look tacky
I like it too. One of the best. But it's not really analysis. It's just, often bold, sometimes outlandish, opinion.
Mediocre show! 😂 they are the filler.
@@gasstationmike1665 Compared to who? filling in for what?........just askin'....🙄
Nick be looking like Hans Gruber from Die Hard 😂😂
Nick Wright lol.... Jimmy G definitely didn't deserve yesterdays win, but he deserved the Week 2 win vs Seattle, that he didn't get because he didn't start. It balances out
He got credited for both. Any game he plays in (thus contributes to) counts
@@BubblesBub434 No he didn't QB's only get the win stat if they start the game.
Purdy doesn't get the win for that Dolphins game, Jimmy G does. Jimmy G does get the win for Seattle, Trey Lance does
Shlereth can relate in 98-99 when Elway went out and Brister went in for several wks. Brister was in a position of QBing a "Ferrari" offense and just needed to NOT MAKE MISTAKES. He shined and Denver went on to win the title. This was an awesome Shannon Sharpe anecdote of that season so trust me, Shlereth can relate.
Winning percentage without Jimmy G is a very POWERFUL statistic
Remove those other QBs and replace with Mahomes, Josh Allen, Tom Brady, or Rodgers. You think the %’s remain the same?
they didn't mentioned that a lot of times when Jimmy was out its not only him that is suffering from injuries they are plagued by injuries in 2020/2018,
@@b0cinirallam164 cause we know that
How can you say 49ers QBs aren't asked to do much when they are being forced to throw it 37 times and they are making the throws that have to be made or the offense wouldn't be moving the ball?.. That goes for Jimmy this year and Purdy. Teams are selling out to stop the run every week and it's made the 49ers into a passing offense, which requires competent QB play
It’s called a lot of swing passes underneath routes WR and RB screens account for more then half of the niners qb passes
Despite what all these guys are saying, you need good QB play to make a Super Bowl. Also Purdy is a rookie and is not all that talented considering where he was drafted. Unfortunately, it’s a very slim chance Purdy can play well enough for the 49ers to go where they want. Rookie QBs are prone to make mistakes and too many mistakes will send you home in the playoffs.
@skillethead15 Jimmy has played literally 0 really good playoff games my guy. Playing mistake free football isn't actually Jimmy Gs thing in the playoffs.
Shanahan would greatly prefer to have his QB's pass under 35 time's per game. Shanahan's recipe for success is to lean on the ground game control the clock while defense limit's the big plays. But this season for various reasons the ground game has been highly inconsistent. Mainly due to as you said , The defense's are stacking the box which stifles our ground game and hinders the short passing game. Luckily Miami's defense isn't good. And the short passing game was effective. But Shanahan would love to be able to occasionally go down the field with deep passes. But knew Jimmy was highly inaccurate on deep passes. One reason they drafted lance.
@@xcwilliams7980 Exactly. The Jimmy Stan's Love to give Jimmy all the credit for the 5-2 playoff record. But Jimmy did little to nothing in the playoffs except choke massively in the 4th Quarter's.
I like how ppl say, Kyle is overrated as a HC but has great defenses & his system is QB friendly/QB proof. Isn't that the definition of a great HC.
True but he is the guy who lost 2 SB leads
I mean what does all of that matter if he can't win the big game he makes it to?
I have to remind myself that these guys have to watch a plethora of other games for this show. There is no way they can see all the nuances in the QB play yesterday. I thought Purdy looked lights out especially when the blitz was on. I have yet to see that poise in any 49ers QB in 20 years. Yet alone the last pick in the draft.
Did you say Two uh.. Turndaballova... Two many times 🤣😂😆💀
Gotta admit, Tua couldn't put a football in a swimming pool yesterday but I wouldn't write him off.
First bad game of the year, and he still almost got 300yds and 2 TDs. They shot themselves in the foot a few times during those last 2 drives. They were driving with a chance to tie in the 4th quarter, but they turned it over on downs, in a play that was a few centimeters away from being a clean catch. That was pretty much the game. I disagree with them. I think the Phins and Tua are still in good shape, and I believe they'll bounce back from this loss.
@@sandman1008 300 yards, every play is on hill
@@robertojones5430 In this game Hill received more passes than Waddle because Waddle was playing with an injury. In the last game they had exactly the same number of yards. In the game before that Hill was the 4th leading receiver. What exactly is your point?
i guess some people did not watch the browns game lol
@@robertojones5430 Something tells me you haven't watched a single Dolphins game this season.
We say it's not a QB dependent Offense... and on paper that's true. So why is it that no other QB can WIN in this Offense?
No other QB has played with McCaffrey. Remember Jimmy G’s first start was a loss to the god-awful Broncos.
because it assumes talking about a QB who is capable of playing at the NFL level. Mark literally said it at 5:12
@@Lilmika9374 they play in the NFL. that means they play at the NFL level. Mullens and Hoyer were at one point starters on other teams. yet neither could win under the great Shanahan "plug and play" offense.
they always failed to mention the niner's injury woes especially in 2020/2018, most of the time when the backups plays(beathard and Mullens), they're playing with a depleted roster missing key pieces not just Jimmy.
Because they were backups. I'm not sure if other coaches have nearly 40 games with clear backups- normally those coaches get fired before they reach 40 games. But that's the reason he hasn't won and its obvious. No one really wins over time trotting out number 2 QBs (we are talking almost 40 games).
Broussard has been saving his ridiculousness alllllll last week and he is ON ONE. This is gonna be a great week between these 3 😂💀
Show is amazing! Can we just please keep it just wilds, nick and bru. Everyone else I have to fast forward when they speak.
Doug Flutie and Drew Brees were undersized and overlooked. They both had a pretty good career
People seem to forget TB12 was a late 6th round pick and quite small when he got to the league as well
Love mark on the show!
Oh please let Brock Purdy win the Superbowl so I can see these guys eat their words.
Couldn't wait to see this show 😊
"Have you no shame!" Lmfaoo
Nick crushing wildes patriots!
Wow did I just hear the Raiders mentioned on this show? I think that might be a first!
I heard this playing in the background and I thought Chris Rock was giving commentary, LOL.
Baker requested his release and the panthers were like OK yeah cool💀💀💀💀💀💀💀😭😭😭😭
The key take away w/ Tim and Jimmy though is the players like them. Meaning they tend to play harder for them.
The amount of disrespect that jimmy gets from these couch coaches is insane.
Really missed these guys last week
Mark Schlereth is the Man.
to put it as Matt did ... really smart football guy... Baker gonna make a great coach
I would 100% know it wasn’t Jimmy G based on how he actually got rid of the ball instead of taking unnecessary sacks like Jimmy does.
Exactly
Me and my dad were talking about how quick his release was all game
If Baker goes to San Francisco and they go to the NFC Championship game it won't be because of Baker.
That's his point
@@joshhutton9534 people don't want to hear that though went you a SB even if you didn't play
this show is great.
Why does nick look like he’s auditioning for The Godfather part 4.
If we are watching the same game then you seen a noticeable difference despite Purdy playing well. The gameplan dramatically changed for sure but it’s about the “narrative”!
If Jimmy would have not gotten hurt it was looking like 50-17 (as much as DON’T like Jimmy)!
Don't kid yourself
You were definitely watching it on the TV Nick was describing.
@@707romo707 of course… because only the 49ers own fans act as if their QB can’t have a great game 🙄🙄
Nick wright out here looking like jigsaw today lmao
finally Mark is back
When Nick said-with a straight face-that Brock or Baker could lead the 49ers to the Super Bowl this year, I let out such an exuberant laugh that my manager stopped by to ask what was so funny.
I mean, it's not ridiculous to think about when you put in the teams we have to beat in the playoffs to get to the Superbowl. Biggest threat might only be the Vikings on the NFC. We'll see how we do with the Bucs next week
Who'd they have to beat? Vikings, Cowboys and Eagles look like the other contenders. SF clears their rosters by a country mile. Their pass rush is as good as Dallas, their running game is as good as Philly if not better, their receivers are as good as the Vikings, and none have a star QB that will really win you games. Look I'm not saying they 100% beat these three (though Philly is grossly overrated, their strength of schedule and QBs faced are laughable), but it's far from 0% either, even with you or me at QB let alone someone semi competent like Purdy or Mayfield
@@BubblesBub434 Lol Philly easily has a better team than San Fran. Best O line + D line in the league. Eagles top 5 run game, San Fran not even in top 10. Eagles #2 in the league at sacking the Qb and #1 in pass defense AND forcing turnovers. Eagles have the #3 offense, Niners are #10. That was with Jim G. If you think Purdy is marching them into the playoffs and finding a win in Philadelphia as a rookie, good luck 👍
@@BubblesBub434 Also, the Eagles have faced(and beaten) more teams over .500 than KC 🤔
He was right
Bru: I got another graphic
Cast: whoooaaaa !
Best sports show 😂
They tend to forget this was a 26-17 game. With 3 minutes left and got a fumble. They didn’t hang 33 on them. This was not an offensive domination. Both defenses came to play.
i hate people who don’t watch the games it was literally 17-23 with 4-5 minutes left
Best trio of RB, WR, TE in football.. Dalvin cook, Justin Jefferson, and T.J hockenson have left the chat
Mark is great
Mark should have just said Mayfield could be a good coach one day.
Come on Camera people, when Nick said the Patriots stink, that needed to be a close- up on Wildes. 😏
Loving the "you play to win the game"
U guys are hilarious 😂😂
The fact that Nick NEVER brings up the other QBs playing in the Jimmy G era is baffling to me
Does it matter. Jimmy is average and it’s that simple
@@revealingtruth3329 better than Alex Smith and a lot of the Pre-Mahomes KC QBs
@@youtuber_00786 he’s nowhere near as good as Alex smith.
I mean it’s like how Broussard doesn’t mention a lot of those losses without Jimmy also came without Deebo, Bosa, armstead, Greenlaw, Kittle etc.
@@youtuber_00786 he is no where near better than Alex Smith. You are insane.
Rather have Purdy than Baker any day.
Nick and Florio are the two biggest 49er hater on social media 😂
I agree!
Good glad to hear it
You could tell it was BP by where he lined up. 😂
Brock Purdy may turn out to be the most relevant Mr. Irrelevant in NFL history! Hope he keeps up the nice momentum they got going! And I hate that niners
Chris said...jg put himself in the 70% stat....Chris having respect for jg....!!! That's cool.
he could make the hof with a ring
No! Just no to Baker 🙄
Saving this for when Baker goes to the 49ers and wins the Super Bowl !
@@Anthony-tz2wb you will be disappointed if you plan on saving it for that minute possibility lol
In a QB driven league downgrading from Jimmy G to Mr. Irrelevant is bad. Great defence true, but like SB LIV holding might not get called so QBs can "create". NFL likes that now.
Funny how Brou didn’t believe in Mr Irrelevant a year ago
It was 6 pt game with 4 minutes left. 🤣 🤣 we in trouble after 1 loss?
So they say the 49ers can win the Super Bowl with Purdy, but bash the dolphins for losing to a Super Bowl team?
This would be funny if this was the next Brady story, we will see
he could win with that defense so it not impossible
Nick and Mark are right that Jimmy G is not the secret sauce of the 49ers offense. Any competent quarterback can beat top teams with that lineup. That said, every bit of extra talent helps if you want to win the SB. San Francisco will need some luck to win a championship with a backup QB, but it isn't impossible.
um, career winning percentage is not a good stat when it's skewed by how long the qb played for his career. so mahomes and company (with the exception of brady) have a nice percentage, but they still have plenty of games to play that could bring it down. with garolovsky, he could retire now and stay at 70.2; but, then he's only played like 4 seasons compared to brady who has played in 20.
Exactly. I think that shouldn’t be mention until a player has atleast 10-12 seasons of starts under their belt
Doesn’t Purdy practice against the best defense in the league? He’s well prepared.
Right that what I'm saying they need to go all out with no qb contacts but full throttle just to see how good Purdy is on practice
Nick Well did Geno Smith Change your mind about him as a QB?
I don’t get the saying wide open NFC when they have 2 of the best records and 4 of the top 7 teams
Y'all only giving us two clips now? C'mon 🥺😭
Watching the game only thing I can say is that the Niners need to fire their offensive line coach.
"I'm not a quarterback wins guy -"
"YES YOU ARE!"
That final question series was most telling. This guy studies the game, he doesn’t play Xbox. I saw an interview with Trey Lance where he said he plays Xbox basketball about ten hours a week.
Dolphins fans were telling me they were winning out the rest of the way lmao
11:43 wyles hilarious
Nick is right. It really doesn’t matter that Jimmy G is gone.
Wildes I know you’re reading this… never change 😂😂😂
None of these people watched the dolphins game
Miami was literally driving for the go ahead score with like 5 min left in the game
Please no baker, his personality doesn't match at all let alone his ball security
You think Mr Irrelevant will win you the Super Bowl? I’d say Baker has more talent which is what you’d need to beat the Eagles and win the Super Bowl.
@@wilkic2 *baker throws more picks than Jimmy. Baker nor Purdy ain’t the answer*
BROCK PARTY😎 LETS GO!
I'm not a Mullens fan, but I love how everyone forgets that when he was playing, more than half the team was injured, including ALL the offensive skill players, running backs and receivers, and he still averaged 80 yards more per game than Jimmy G. People always talk about him like everything is his fault.
agreed. Bosa was out for most of those games as well. Mullens on this team now would excel.
yes, he fell behind in games and had to throw the ball more hence his more yards. Some of Jimmy G's highest passing games are in his losses. That's how this offense works.
Are you really talking about Mullens is this grant cohn?
@@TitanPardy808 that's why some people just watch football don't talk about football cuz you guys are crazy if he was that good he would have a starting job in the NFL right
@@bigtone7078 That's why I originally said I'm not a Mullens fan, he's not a great quarterback for sure. But people always talk about the QB and ignore the situation they are playing in, right now we will see Jimmy G has been in a great spot, he is not a great spot.
Wilds: Baker requested his release....the Panthers said yeah...cool.......wilds funny ASF man😂😂😅
People thought last year was jimmy’s last year, but here he was. I could see him staying as a backup next year again. Yesterday we seen purdy play as good as, if not better, than jimmy G. He def looks better than trey lance though. His game script doesn’t require him to carry, only to play his part in getting the ball to the playmakers. Putting off the 49ers is nonsense.
He’s good enough to start another team. If purdy works out well, just run with lance and purdy
@Soccerboss792 why would you want a backup that can't run the same offense as the starter? If anything let Jimmy back up Purdy (assuming he plays well enough to keep the starting role) and ship Lance off to a coach thar isn't going to destroy his career by using his wrong
The 9ers will make the playoffs, but won't do much else unless this Purdy fellow turns out to be much better than thought.
The only thing that matters is that Niners players are vocal that they are gonna ride with Purdy.
They always askew the game stats without Jimmy G to include Shanahans games before he was even in SF so it looks worse. 2020 they lost Jimmy and had another 18 players on IR so in context the Jimmy G narrative doesn't hold up.
Why is Nick on Bru about "quarterback wins?" No one in media talks about football in terms of quarterback match-ups more than Nick Wright...
when I watched the game last night I seen a 53/54 man roster roll over the dolphins the same roster that has been on a roll for the last few weeks.
Dolphins are in a rough spot. They arnt getting the 1 seed. Going to have travel to KC, Cincy, Buf, Bal, or Ten (Tennessee is the warmest?) And possibly play all playoff games in the cold. Speed team with almost no run game that's gonna have to play on the road in the cold with a coach and QB that have never been to the playoffs. They have been a surprising team this year and I think they have a strong chance to be contenders next year but I think this year theres too much for them to handle. Your best player is a WR, that's tough, if anyone can change a game from that spot hill can but man you'd like to have a star RB or QB with their situation.
I think with out Armstead, Miami is in trouble. Tua with pressure was not good at all.
The QB wins stat is like the Pat Bev teams never missing the playoffs stat.
5 of Miami's previous losses in sub-40 degree weather were by other QBs. This is such a dumb take trying to pin bad play in cold weather on Tua specifically. Tua has played 0 games below freezing, played terribly in the rain last year in Tennessee, and put up 361 yards as a rookie vs the #1 seed Bills in 2020.
They're always moving the goalpost with Miami. At first there were questions about Tua's ability to throw the deep ball. Then it was "How does he do against Super Bowl contenders in the Ravens and Bills." Then it became "All those wins against easy opponents mean nothing, look good against the 49ers on the road while missing 3 of your starting OL, or else you're fraudulent." Now they're taking early victory laps for finally being right about a negative prediction regarding Miami, and they decide to double down by saying we'll struggle down the stretch.
Watch how they talk about how the Chargers can beat us prior to SNF, then watch how they'll talk about the Chargers as a trash team after we stomp them. Then the following week, if we beat the Bills, Nick will just make the topic be about the Bills losing the #1 seed to his Chiefs rather than talk about the Dolphins making him put his foot in his mouth.
You guys didn't actually watch the San Fran game did you 😆
They (the niners)had made that offense IDIOT PROOF I’m weak.😂😂😂😂😂 that Nick dudes hilarious
Gotta love Nick hedging his bets there by saying we don't know if Brock is one of those guys yet. His point is that anyone can run this offense with all of the weapons and a great defense. But then goes against that. If anyone can do it as he claims, Purdy better get it done.
Well well well
Never underestimate a team that has a defense like the Niners do. If Purdy can put up 22 ppg they can win.
30 to win SB
Honestly baker would only do good because he would not have to run for his life, he could stay in the pocket, but I’m cool with purdy if he can stick to the script.
Mark Schlereth looks rough. Haven’t seen him on any clips I’ve watched recently.
What’s going on with Antonio Brown?
The graphics are hilarious lmao
Let Baker be a coach somewhere!
Football intelligent guy equals he's going to make a really good coach one day.
Yeah but at some point too you gotta learn how to like protect yourself out there he still just keeps keeps backpaddling and backpack and throw the football away and on the main like it would have been the same as him getting sacked and taken that loss like
The 8 passes argument that ANY QB can play for the 49ers and get them to a SB has never made any sense to me. How can you base a QB's career or affect on a team from ONE GAME!!? What about the past 17 games of the season where Jimmy played great to even get them in the playoffs. Do those NOT COUNT?? lol .... I mean the 49ers running game is not the same as it was back in 2019 and they RAN it because GREENBAY couldn't STOP it something they SHOULD'VE DONE MORE IN THE SB. Brock Purdy looked good but so did Nick Mullens agains the Raiders. To assume Purdy can take this team to the SB and WIN IT., is really kind of a slap in the face to Jimmy and all he's been through. I hope Purdy is the answer. He certainly is better than Trey Lance.
Go niners
Nick mentioning Baker Mayfield going to the super bowl takes the last little bit of credibility he had and flushes it down the toilet lol what a fool