We were SHOCKED by this QUIRKY CITY! (Lyon France)
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- In the comments of our video about Paris, many of you suggested that Lyon France is a smaller, more manageable option with many of the same benefits.
Following our month-long stay in Dijon, we took a train to Lyon to see for ourselves and we must admit that we were shocked, surprised and fascinated by what we saw.
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Lyon is arguably the best place to experience France as a foreigner. It is a big city, it looks like Paris but it's cheaper, less packed and more welcoming. PLUS: you get more restaurants there than anywhere else, the food culture is just great!
I would recommend Bordeaux.
Paris is much better :)
@@helenefrench4275 Agree to disagree ;-)
it is still extremely expensive
What a short and funny resume. To read you, apart from these 3 cities and their agglomeration, all the rest of France is a desert without life and without activities (???) LOL
So really we can add for example:
- LILLES, big dynamic city in the north near Belgium and its agglomeration of more than 1,110,000 inhabitants.
- BORDEAUX, world capital of Wine, agglomeration of 835,000 inhabitants.
- TOULOUSE, European capital of aeronautics and aerospace (Airbus, Dassault, etc.), agglomeration of 820,000 inhabitants.
- MONTPELLIER, young, dynamic, university city, in the south of France, agglomeration of 510,000 inhabitants?
- NANTES, same as Montpellier but further to the north-east, agglomeration of 680,000 inhabitants.
etc...
In France we have three real big cities : the worldwide famous Paris, the boisterous Marseille and the mysterious and discreet Lyon. A lot of my fellow citizens don't know Lyon very well, except for its gastronomy or its "Fête des Lumières".
Perhaps 4 ? The Toulouse conurbation now has over a million residents and has a very different vibe compare to the 3 others.
@@Jazzmaster11 I give you that, Toulouse is close to Lyon in terms of population. My point is Toulouse rings even more bells (rugby, cassoulet, accent, air&space industry, "pink city", etc) than Lyon does.
@@ogamiitto8627 you are kidding! lyon is the double of the toulouse population in the urban area.Sorry but toulouse can't be considered as big city at an international level.
@@ogamiitto8627 Lyon est plus grand que marseille.
@@Yac7111 la ville de Lyon est moins peuplée mais son aire urbaine est bien plus grande que celle de Marseille :)
I am from Lyon and summer is the season of roadworks and renovation 😂. If you don't like crowded cites Lyon is a paradise in summer
Surtout Bellecour.
I was born in Lyon. My ancestors were silk weavers. I am surprised that you do not mention the silk industry and the Tête D'Or park, which is one of the largest in Europe. Also, I don't know which restaurants you went to but it is possible to eat well in Lyon with cheaper prices than the ones you mentioned. I left my hometown a few years ago and I miss it.
The Florentine and Medici famliies and Tuscan republics as well Venice influenced and formed anything in Lyon way before anything. Bow down to Italy.
@@JulianLaEcho I don't think Lyons looks like an Italian city, though the italian influence there was as extensive as anywhere else in Europe.
The Old Lyon district is the largest Florentine Renaissance architectural ensemble in Europe outside Italy, so..
Yes, your hometown is beautiful. It’s the old capital of France and evidently the gastronomic capital of the world, isn’t it? Gateau de foie de volaille, petite tarte a l‘onion, creme de la courge 😂 eh bah!
All that jazz..
I lived in Place Bellecoeur and St John for two years and experienced nothing but kindness and consideration from the Lyonais.
@@user-px3in1od6h the old Lyon district is extremely different, in gorm as well as in spirit, from anything you will find in Italy, although we are all indebted to the italian Renaissance.
If anyone tries Lyon, don't skip a parc named "tete d'or", it's a really big parc with a free zoo. The food is also very specific to the region, if you look for a type of restaurant named "bouchon", you'll get specific Lyon food. If you feel very adventurous (for my stereotype of americans), "andouillette" is my favorite!
Thank you both for mentioning the homeless and especially those who seemed to have mental health issues. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody in the travel industry discuss that topic before, and it shows your courage, compassion and empathy to mention it.
It’s an issue that there should be more discussion about all levels of our society because it’s an issue which ultimately will touch every single one of us either directly or through a loved one which might be a friend or a coworker or family.
In this case, apparently, Lyon has been overwhelmed with young migrants, (based on looking at some French newspapers online). But I can’t understand why people who are showing signs of mental health distress or other people who may be having physical health issues, are not being brought in for observation and care.
I hope this causes other people to discuss the topic both specifically about Lyon and more broadly …so thanks again. You guys rock! 😊
@@Zoltanthemystical don't trust French newspaper.
There are not enough people working in mental illness structures (in all France) and it's worse during holidays when some patients are out of hospitals instead of staying in.
Politics took money out of healthcare year after year resulting in this. In addition I'd like to add that if they didn't see many homeless in Paris it is because they have been taken out of the city by law enforcement and moved to other cities in preparation for the Olympics...
@@feanimmorco3480buuuuuullshiiiiiit
I’ve worked many years in a psychiatric hospital in Lyon. Absolutely no money “not coming in anymore” problem but definitely a “money being thrown away on stupid bureaucracy” problem.
And on top of that… migrants, migrants, migrants. First year of work, would see a migrant once a twice a week. After eight years, it was more like six or seven times A DAY. Multiply the amount of patient by a 20 fold requiring care, don’t be surprised everything goes bankrupt.
06:18 : yups. This is not Palais de la Bourse, but it is the Townhall of Lyon (built between 1646 and 1672 by several architects, the most famous being Jules Hardouin-Mansart).
Young people in France drink more beer than wine, but for good wine and food in Lyon go to a Bouchon Lyonnaise. Maybe you needed to go to more blue collar restaurants and order la formule instead of à la carte in Lyon. There is a housing shortage in Lyon due to the high number of students….accommodation is expensive. The knitting and crochet tradition comes from Lyon’s long history as a textile and silk making capital. The Festival of Lights in Lyon in December is spectacular ❤
JP and Amelia are vegan, so it's probably impossible for them to order 'La formule.'
Beer is more something that French people drink between meals as well as during meals. Traditionally, in the French culture wine goes with food, e.g. it's recommended to drink certain wines with certain dishes. This is why you seldom see a French person drinking wine outside meals, except for Champagne and other sparkling wines.
@@jfrancobelge Absolutely true. We don't have wine on it's own, we drink it with a meal (or maybe white wine could be the exception, as an "aperitif")
BS ! The housing shortage is due to the huge amount of migrants that arrived in the last five years. There was absolutely no housing shortage ten years ago, you could find an appartement in a couple of weeks.
I liked Lyon, Marseille (plus Aix en Provence), and Nice, but my personal preference is Paris... there's ALWAYS something new to do/see/experience. I always stay somewhere in the heart of the city and near a metro station, making it easily walkable; that way, most everywhere I want to go is within a 20-minute walk/bike/metro radius.
I'm not put off by the protests; I actually appreciate them, and have been to a major one at République. They...as well as the national motto, "Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité"...are a testament to democratic ideals, free speech, and the power of the people...things that are all too often taken for granted by folks back home.
As for the abundance of beer ...don't forget that Germany is LITERALLY next door!
Hi Amelia and JP! I'm writing these lines looking down onto the confluence area that you show from 6:47 onwards. When I arrived in San Diego in 1994, the US's population was 263 million. Now it's above 330. I shed one or the other tear when I had to leave for job reasons, but I will never forget the friendly welcome I received by the Californians. I felt as one of their's at the end of eight years. Same here in Lyon. After 23 years, I may not have become a full-blown Frenchman, to be sure, but I know intimately how they tick. A certain Thomas Jefferson contemplated the river scene below my windows as a young diplomat dispatched to Lyon; a commemorative plaque is placed where he stood. And the cosmopolitan attitude of SoCal has taught me as a young man how to be at ease in France, too. Let's not be afraid of one another. All hail from Lyon, by a hun.
This is timely. I'm in Lyon for the month and I'm quite liking it so far. Fully agree about the expensive restaurants but affordable groceries (by Canadian standards). It's a nice change from my usual Paris trip
Hope you enjoy it!
Love your channel! As a US citizen living in Budapest, you guy's have inspired so many Americans that there is an alternative to a happy, meaningful, healthy life to escape some of the madness back home. Happy and safe travels! :) I just returned fro Valencia after watching your videos.
Thank you so much! 😊
Hi guys @AmeliaAndJP !
At 6:16 it's not a picture of le Palais de la Bourse but one of our cityhall, built during the XVII th century. Just to let you know.
Hope you enjoyed your stay here. Seems you had a good time anyway.
cheers to both of you
well, I was going to mention that ! Glad you did ! Palais de la Bourse is not too far, in the Cordeliers area, still in the Presqu'île part.
French here stuck living in Florida….. I’d highly recommend visiting the region of Alsace:
The car and train museum in Mulhouse
The Haut Koenisbourg Castle one hour north of Mulhouse.
And on the way visit Fort Mutzig
And then the best: all medieval villages on the route du vin. And then you’re just 20 minutes from both Germany and Switzerland (warning: Switzerland is expensive!)
I'm glad you guys came to Lyon, my adopted city of 20+ years as a Brit. I absolutely love it. The architecture, the rivers, the food... it usually ranks around number 20 on the list of world's most liveable cities, which is pretty good going for a largely unknown city.
The Roman quarter is by the most stunning place in Lyon. The outlook is phenomenal and it is a quiet and grandiose place just above the city.
I absolutely agree. It 's from the roman theatres that came up my passion for archaeology. This place is really timeless
N’oublions pas les Nuits de Fourvière !
@@Inglese001 pffff ! Woke.
I think the slow travel idea sounds more relaxed and glad you're doing it
Shhhh...please, not too much promotion about Lyon....spending a month here, and well, I love this place, the people are beautiful, I love when you walk into a shop, bar or restaurant and you hear this beautiful singing "bonjour" from the madame...everybody is so polite, helpful, smiling, accommodating...okay I'm done, love your videos and love Lyon.
Cool, I'm heading there in August.
Bonjour in French is like hello in English, it is the common greeting. If you greet a person with bonjour monsieur or madame they will appreciate the politeness. The French are quite proud of their revolutionary history (liberté, égalité, fraternité) so unlike in England where only semi-official royalty is 'sir'(think Sir Elton John) or the US where everyone is 'sir', in France everyone is 'monsieur' or 'madame'. Interestingly in modern French 'madame' does not imply being married and is often used to address single as well as married women.
Too late, lots of people may join you.
@@brucerosner3547 this is annoying to call a woman Madame as it implies she is married. My documents are a mix of madame and Madamoseille....Ideally french should call me "Dr"
Loved this video. Will be visiting there in the near future. Quick trip from Portugal where we live. Town looks like it provides an amazing mix of everything! Obrigado JP Porto
Merci merci, vous avez bien résumé ma très chère ville !!
Paris, France is beautiful. I had the privilege of staying there for a month before going to Marseille. I love Ireland and Scotland too. Been to them as well, but my favorite place to live the retired life on a fixed and not-so-extravagant income is southeast Asia where I can very easily live on $1,000-$2,000 per month in Cambodia and Thailand. The Philippines is affordable too. Lived there for almost 3 years in Cebu City and absolutely LOVED it!
Lyon has a big student community, that's why there's a lot of pubs (and they are kind of concrated in the same areas). But we do have a lot of wine places dotted around town that may not have caught your eye so much 🙂.
Great review of our city Lyon ! I hope you enjoyed it, and I agree, Dijon is also a lovely city. As other mentioned, I was surprised that you didn't mention our beautiful Parc de la Tête d'Or, that is huge and includes a free zoo. Great for picnics, running, renting a rowing boat (in summer) or reading ....
I hope you will have more Lyon videos. Silk? Food capital of France? Paul Bocuse market? Quenelles, sausages, snails? The Little Prince statue? Lingerie shops?
As a Le Cordon Bleu-trained chef, Lyon is a mecca for foodies like me - it's my happy place. Big enough to have all the modern conveniences yet compact enough to be walkable. They have a huge Festival of Lights (Fete des Lumieres) in early December so that's when I usually go. I would live in Lyon year-round if the rent wasn't so expensive. Sad to see more vandalism and homelessness but that seems to be on the rise everywhere.
Nice vid, thank you guys for promoting our city!
"Funiculaire is called "la ficelle" (the string) by the elders, younger people go with " le funi".
at 6.18 this is the Hotel de ville (Town Hall) not the Palais de la Bourse. Thanks for your good temper. Your enthusiasm is very nice. Thank you for having shared the beauties of our city!
Hello,
Very nice video, glad you enjoyed your stay and had a nice weather
You talked about the fact that there is a lot of pubs and beer in Lyon, it will be the case in every "ville etudiante" in France except in Marseille where they drink more pastis. Lyon is also one of the most important gastronomic city in France so like Paris you can find cuisine from everywhere at a high quality.
Lyon is a lovely city I did my master degree there. Rome did built a lot of things in France~
I’m glad to hear you had a great time staying there ☺️
Amelia just keeps getting more beautiful, models that dress with such class. JP, you're a lucky man!
Lyon is definitely one of the most Beautiful parts of France, and bonus points for keeping you in shape ❤
Can't wait! Our river tour ends there. Another great place to travel on my stomach!
2:15 Technically, by design, it functions more like an elevator than a trolley. It is lifted and held up the slope *by a cable.*
You can clearly see the winch cables and wheels at the top station.
We really enjoyed Lyon when we were there in 2019. A couple of things we think are worth mentioning: The Musée de Confluence. It is absolutely stellar and worth a visit. And in the refurbished Confluence area there are several performance spaces; the former sugar factory is an exhibit space we highly recommend. We saw a terrific photography exhibit when we were there. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the traboules which are the passages historically used by the workers in the silk industry and more recently by the Resistance during WWII. The silk museum isn’t worth a visit but the Tourism Office has a good map you can use to visit the traboules. We think the pronunciation for the tram that goes up the hill is Foo-Nick-U-Laar. Like you, we love Dijon and will be there this fall. Thanks for your great videos and perspectives about the places you visit.
I'am from a small town of Paris Banlieue called Vaucresson and I always loved "le vieux" Lyon. The food, the people, the Culture and it is smaller and less crowded than Paris.
I feel you on the unisex bathrooms, I was stationed in Germany 30 some years ago and for a kid from an American bible belt that was hard to get used to. After a while not a big deal.
10:31 Lyon has a lot of schools/uni/colleges and students prefer beer. Younger people will hang out to drink beer a lot.
Thanks for showing Lyon!
Great info! Thanks :)
Thanks for this nice video ! This is so great to hear you both talking about my nice city. This is the French capital of gastronomy and the European capital of the danse as well as a big cultural center in general : theater, dance, arts of any kind. If you want to see another great French city, you can try Nantes : the city of Jules Verne 😉
I visited Lyon for the first time this past March, to make a CD recording on the organ at Basilique Saint Bonaventure. I stayed in a hotel right next to the main pedestrian area of downtown, and loved it: so vibrantly active, yet mellow. I finished my recording sessions c. 2:30 AM, yet always felt perfectly safe walking back to my hotel. It looked and felt like a much more user-friendly version of Paris, without the dirt and grime, but also without the bombastic self-importance. There are so many restaurants, and in such variety, as well as shops of all kinds. It's clearly the sort of city one could explore for weeks and never tire of.
Lyon n'est pas une ville sécurisée ...
Beaucoup de clandestins et beaucoup d'agressions !
Thank you to highlight my city... It's great to have a foreign point of view. Did you visit the Hotel Dieu in front of the Rhône? Those buildings were an hospital. The oldest parts are from XII th century. They have been all renovated a few years ago. I consider it's one of the most beautiful place in the city. What about all the peniches bars and restaurants along the other bank of the Rhône? Have you been there? I hope you did not miss this. If you did you'll have to come here again for sure and you'll be more that welcome. Thanks again.
Bonjour ! très agréable vidéo et c'est vraiment intéressant de voir votre ressenti. Ce mot assez difficile "funiculaire" veut dire "qui fonctionne à l'aide de cordes." et celui dont vous parlez est surnommé "la ficelle" par les lyonnais car la ficelle est une petite corde mais je vous rassure désormais on a remplacé les cordes par des câbles bien plus solides :) revenez voir la France encore il y a pleins de lieux à découvrir encore !
Merci! 😊🇫🇷
Lyon’s considered by many the most pleasant "big city" in France. I lived there for about a decade and now I live in a town just next to it (yeah cause real estate is obviously expensive in the city) and even if it has its problems Lyon is overall a beautiful city with plenty of beautiful areas to hang out in and most importantly, it has a LOT of amazing restaurants, if you’re a foodie you’ll definitely find plenty of great places to eat at.
Funicular is the English word. It is used in English also.
also in Spanish
If funicular is too difficult to pronounce, you can also call it a cable car as it's done in San Francisco.
Non ça vient du français : " Funiculaire "
latin funiculus=corde,cable
literraly train pulled by a cable
11:11 Yay! I kept watching the video, enjoying it, of course -- but thinking, "The DRESS, though! You guys can't keep talking and talking, and not mention that adorable DRESS!"
Amelia, get together with the shopkeeper and collaborate on selling that dress online (double the price, no problem!); you'll both be RICH!! 😊😅
😊
Hi guys. Thanks for this video. You guys are such an inspiration. We're going to Paris by train tomorrow for 4 days. We've been in Luxembourg for the last few days. My daughter and her German husband drove us there from Essen Germany. But first they took us to a B&B in the Black Forest where we enjoyed shopping, dining, and site-seeing like the Boden-Boden castle and the Triberg Waterfalls. We're doing an Airbnb in Paris, but it sure has helped having friends and family in European countries. While in Paris we're going to do a river cruise and visit the louvre. After that we will go to Brussels for a few hours before returning to Essen near Dusseldorf where my daughter lives. Then it's back to Tampa. Keep up the videos please!
@@videoeditoranimation1714 you mean Baden Baden….
Wow! What a fun trip! 😊
@@AmeliaAndJP Thank you. It would be awesome to meet you guys some day. Until then I follow you and learn. Thank you for all you do. I know YouTubing is not easy. People forget you are real people. Please continue.
Yes. @@rolandkel7696
Check out the ski towns from lourdes. Such as catarets, luz saint saviour and go on a little day hike to cirque du gavarnie. A beauty spot in the Pyrenees.
its nice to see people showing my city some love ❤
Great video as usual guys, just to tell you that the service is included in France but not the tips. I mean that the waiters dont get any money on the bill. They have the minimum salary required in France ( (Smic) and tips are very much appreciated by these guys who work hard and dont have good salaries. It is a big misunderstanding that the service is included. Tips are not mandatory but make a big difference especially if u had kind and professional waiters ❤
If the service is good we usually leave several euros, but not the 20% like in the States. :)
You would love the amplitheaters in Amman, Jordan, too, surprisingly in the centre of town.
That would be cool to see!
Thank-you for sharing your experience with us. 😊❤ I'm 59 and early retired. I will put Lyon on my list.
I might go back to France since your experiences are better than what I recall a few decades ago. Thanks for the update!
Bonjour, j'habite Lyon, je suis heureuse que vous ayez aimé la ville ! Concernant les ruines romaines, je comprends que vous ayez été impressionnés : même en tant que Francaise je trouve fou de vivre à côte de telles constructions, qui sont toujours là au bout de 2000 ans.
Another great video! I must visit this place!
You two are excellent presenters- I look forward to your videos!
I love this beautiful city, practically my hometown. The walkability is a great part of why it's great. These days you've also got a 35€/year subscription for public self-service bikes, an incredible gift! As you noted you find great-looking places, different kinds of architecture, great parks and good food! The proximity to the Alps and to the south is a great plus.
However Macron completely ruined our economy, the prices of restaurants and rents have been taking a hit for the past years, especially the last two years. It's also fair to say that the casual pleasure of walking around has been ruined by all of the angry foreigners walking around, especially at night, making very inappropriate remarks to women. But that's the case in the country as a whole. Be wary of luggages, bags, etc. To be fair I wouldn't qualify any big city in France as "safe" until we sort this mess out.
Soooo much fun, thanks.
@16:38 Someone apparently not too happy with Bardella. 😳
Safe and happy travels, guys. 🌅
You both do a fantastic job showcasing and reviewing cities and countries!
Thanks!
Lyon was where the whole modern French cooking scene took off with Paul Bocuse
@@cachecow yes, but gastronomy is really from Nice with Auguste Ecouffier.
@@alainbergeron4520 Lyon is considered the French Capital of gastronomy.
@@gsbeak There's many cities in France are claiming this status. I visited France many times. The best region is the SW in the Dordogne and Périgord areas.. Outside Lyon by the town of Roanne, the chef étoilé Michel Troisgros and his family are simply fantastic. Also in or around Bourg-en-Bresse you could discover an outstanding gastronomy.
@@alainbergeron4520. I looked up Lestouffier but couldn’t find anything. Do u mean Escoffier?
@@camiller4916 camiller, yes Escouffier. I made a typo
Have you guys been to" La part dieu" Europe 's second biggest shopping mall ? It's very popular all tourists coming to Lyon go there. 🥰
Thanks for the latest update. Amelia, I really encourage you to try to take up crochet again, or knitting! It's the *PERFECT* portable hobby for travelers. It will make those long waits in the airport, flights, bus and train trips go by very quickly!, and you'll have something nice to wear or give away for a gift when you're done with the project. [There is a slight risk you might get addicted to collecting luxury skeins of yarn from exotic locations like I did ;-) , but still those are great/practical souvenirs from all your trips.] If I ever start a YT channel it will be of me visiting yarn shops around the world, LOL.
Great suggestion! Love it! 😊
5:35 you nailed it ! 😊 The pronunciation of funiculaire what pretty good this time hehe 😉
The city is currently building 2 new tram lines and extending one (I am a student in territorial planning specialized in Transportation in Lyon) that's part of the reason for all the construction, at least road works. But these are in the east, I don't really know if you went there.
The presque-île area is also being transformed basically to make it mostly pedestrian, remove parking spaces etc.
I was living in Lyon for 60 years , and I can tell you : this city is a nightmare !!!!
with an endless winter , a rainy spring an autumn ,and a too hot summer !!!
Since 3 years , I live in Playa Blanca , Canary Islands , and I can tell you : "this is the paradise where the life is cheaper !!!"🏖
nightmare is somewhat exaggerated isn't it?
En bon Français vous n’y allez pas avec le dos de la cuillère
Personnellement je ne pourrais pas rester 60 ans dans un tel enfer 😂😂
@@oscarontheroadLe pire c'est la circulation et le parking ! Et encore je suis parti à temps , depuis askip, l'augmentation de la la délinquance est exponentielle et se promener dans Lyon la nuit devient très risqué surtout pour les femmes .Mais Paris et Marseille , sont encore pires
Je me suis expat aux Canaries🏖 , j'ai acheté une super maison au bord de la mer avec piscine au prix d'un F2 pourri à Lyon... et depuis je revis !!!!!
I lived in Lyon during 6 years . Never more. Expensive, unfriendly population, wet and cold winters, too hot summers. ( 40° celsius).
I like Strasbourg more, although I also recommend Clermont, which is a city with a relatively low cost of living. When you're in Clermont, you can take a trip to Saint Flour, which is a very pleasant medieval town.
Very cold region ( speaking of the climate ) because of the altitude ( small mountains )
I ve been living in Lyon and the suburbs most of my life and I love the city. I must tell you some things are wrong : the picture you choose for Palais de la Bourse is the wrong one , it is the Hotel de Ville ( aka the main town hall)
The price for the funiculaire ( funicular) is not 4.73 € but 2.00€, same as for a bus or a ride in the subway. The card costs 0.20€ then you fill it with up to 10 rides 2.00€ each, and you can refill it when it's empty.
The shows in the roman theater is not a one night show but almost every night in june and july. It's a festival called Les Nuits De Fourvière.
$55 is not really expensive for 5 items, considering taxes and tips are included. Lyon is one of France 's large cities were you can eat very well for a reasonnable price. You didn't go to the right places.
The technique used to pai.t the walls is called "trompe l'œil " which means "fake your eye" aka : optical illusion.
You could have mentionned the subway is particularly clean. ( if you compare the Paris subway for exemple....)
Anyway, You were right, Lyon is worth the visit. It has everything like Paris but without the hussle of the capital.
The funicular station has a tourist tax price. We realized later we could just buy a regular ticket. 🤦♂️
We were there at the same time! We were staying further north in the city, Tonkin, and just adored the Parc de le Tete d’Or. It was seriously the best part of our visit. Went there for a walk several times. To me, that is what I will remember most.
I am a Frenchman from Dijon. In 1969, I wanted to do a year at the Universty of Lyon. Silly me! I was never able to find a room, and had to commute there twice a week by train with a season ticket. I was exhausted, and failed my exams.
C'était en 1969..... Nous sommes en 2024....
i think you will like Annecy and the lake
Lyon looks nice, too! You guys are working your way south, so I hope Montpellier is next? You will REALLY love the architecture there, it's everything you could imagine, but looks of new!
not a word about "le parc de la tete d'or" which is the first place you have to go !
Hey ! 🙂
Two Roman emperors were actually born in Lyon (Lugdunum at that time) : Claudius (Nero's stepfather) and Caracalla.
very true! plus other personalities like Ampère, the Lumiere brothers, Paul Bocuse, Jean-Michel Jarre
Loved Lyon, even in the rain. I call it a mini Paris.
Ooooops ! You mention the XIXth c. « Bourse » but the photo shows the marvelous « Mairie » (Place des Terreaux) which is an authentic XVI th c. Building, another of Lyon treasures. So glad you liked this beautiful city, thanks for coming ! 😍
Lyon was an epicenter for the silk. In the vieux Lyon you could notice the "traboules".. those sort of covered walkways. Lyon was also known for its gastronomique culture. But I think it is fading away. The cathedral is La fourvièvre aka the upside down elephant 🐘. Lyon is great! But it think you are better off in Dijon!
I love how genuine, open minded and kind you are, no wonder why such nice ppl have good times wherever you go, kudos for that and kisses from France :)
Merci 😊🇫🇷
You must definitely see STRASBOURG, one of the most beautiful French cities, with its Petite France district, one of the most beautiful cathedrals in France, its world-famous Christmas market, its wine region and enchanting villages, its amazing gastronomy, the capital of Europe with the European Parliament, bordering Germany : 40mn drive from Europa Park, global top 5 amusement parks.
Definitely a spectacular dress! Both of you are looking very fit and youthful!
Fun to see you guys so excited..JP is gushing like a teenager.
We’re having so much fun!
Ha😂 Those persistent Romans had a way of motivating people to get things done
Touring Europe by its roman sites is an excellent approach.
Lyon has fine chocolate shops that are out of this world.
We have spent allot of time in Lyon. It has wonderful history.
Do your research Funiculaire tkt is 3€60 return but a day tkt is only 6€70 which entitles you to use every mode of transport including the funiculaire!
You're so lucky, I have always wanted to go to Lyon! Y'all should go to Annecy, Chamonix, Albertville.
As for allergy, I think the problem you had was because of the not spectacular blooming of the plane trees. There is a beautiful parc in the north of the city, the Parc de la Tête d'Or (meaning Golden Head parc, the head of a golden statue having been found in its premisses).
yes, those and apparently there is a lot of ambrosie in the region as well that triggers awful allergies.
Hello ! Thank you a lot about this video :) I’m a Lyon’s inhabitant for 12/13 years now. (And from Dijon’s family so double thanks) For the airbnb and hotel, in Lyon, it’s super expensive to rent near a train station (and Perrache still the city center ^^’). And about protest in France, it’s not just in Lyon, deteriorating and graffitis are quite a normal thing cities are used to managed. Some years ago advertising and bus stops were burning down so consider these recent protest as very cool and soft.
For homelessness, it’s hard to see in Paris as the camps are out of Paris but very present around. In Lyon is very present and there is even some slums. About Dijon, it’s a wealthy city with a good housing system, which is not saturated unlike Lyon or Grand Paris area. For cheaper airbnb you have to go to Villeurbanne, Gerland or Monplaisir and getting the city centre by metro. For the funicular, the funicular ticket is a tourist scam. The funicular is incorporated in the city ticketing system and using a 2€ ticket or a pass is possible (because the funicular is considered as a public transportation and not a tourist attraction). In Lyon everybody has a subscription for public transportation (72€/month) as the law oblige the employer to pay back 50% of it, and there is huge discounts for students or elderly (far more than Paris).
(Plus unlike Paris, 100% of the tube, bus and tram are accessible for disabled persons). Lyon is also more representative of the southern French way of life (not as much as Marseille) and the vibe is quite similar to Toulouse
Thanks for the info!
We were in that old area in Lyon on 9/11. It was the afternoon. Some French people came up to us and told us they were sorry. But we didn't know what happened yet! I like Lyon. Those enclosed alley ways between buildings are really cool too. They say that the local resistance knew their way around (of course) through those mazes and hit and ran vs the Germans in WW2.
We stayed in Lyon last September for just a week. We enjoyed it as it was very walkable and had nice public transport once you learn to use the buses and trams. The city is punctuated by different squares and gardens, making it interesting to explore. We loved walking there - there bridges and areas near the rivers are wonderful. And many interesting neighborhoods. The areas we visited, more on the west side, felt safe day and night. We were surprised how animated it got in the evenings especially.
We speak French adequately, but were surprised how often people spoke English to us - this was especially true in the old town area, and most of the servers in the Bouchons could explain the menu in English. We loved just being in the city. We stayed in the 1st arrondisment (district) and it was nice to be a city not so dominated by tourism. I see the protentional hypocrisy in this... the point is that France is more than Paris and the Eiffel Tower! There is definitely tourist areas, especially in the old town, and we enjoyed that. But there are also families, students, people going about their work - not as overwhelming.
We loved eating in the Bouchons. We were expecting Nouvelle Cuisine style small portions and odd dishes - it was not that at all. We had traditional French food prepared and served in a non-intimidating way. And the service was attentive (much better than what we experienced 10+ years ago at French restaurants). The food was great! Our favorite was a dish with fresh grilled Marlin (fish) and mashed potatoes... Nothing weird - just deliciousness.
It was not cheap (about 30 euros pp for prix fix seemed average for dinner). But you get a full meal with appetizer, entry, dessert/cheese plate, and maybe something more. And there is no tax or tip! So if you got the 30 pp for 2 it's going to be 60, done. Compare this to the US where you pay 20 for entree, 7 for appetizer, 7 for dessert, and then tack on 25-30% for tip and tax. We found the French restaurants affordable, which maybe says something about the USA right now...
The museums around the roman sites were awesome.
I read and recommend The Librarian Spy, a WWII story split between Lisbon and Lyon. Your video reminded me of the book.
If you were in the US you would be shocked how much the food costs. It is going up weekly.
Fun-ick-ul-air 😂 that’s how I remember. There are a few in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico where we lived for 3 years.
Lyon needs to be added to our list now. Beautiful!
for those who would come to visit Lyon and who like me like beautiful views. there is "La bascule des vignes" 🍇 20 minutes from Lyon and "Le Mont Thou" and its view over all of Lyon and the Alps 🏔️
Regarding beer we do have a lot of places but wine is not forgotten, you can actually find some very good ones in the beer places. Actually they're not beer places but drinking places and beer tends so sell better. Plus it's usually not just your run of the mill beer. There is a big trend on craft beers and IPAs and NEIPAs., local breweries and everything.
Nothing beats Paris when going as a tourist, but Paris is Paris and Lyon is Lyon, two different cities and Lyon offers great tourist opportunites and the city is smaller and less packed so easier to visit on a small trip .Paris is endless possibilities so you can get drown ! I lived in those two cities and like them both ! ( But I miss Paris now, even if living there is sometimes complicated ! )😅
PS : If you like biking Lyon is far better and safer to visit with bikes !
Parc de la Tête d'Or in Lyon is a huge and beautiful park. It’s a bit away from the main city but it’s accessible by tram.
We planned to go there but ran out of time. It looks amazing!
If you are going to Spain in the Burgos area maybe you could go to the Valdivielso Valley
airbnb prices change A LOT with the dates. Don't know if it's the same in US big cities, but in France, prices start to rise from june to end of august. The same place can be rent 50$ in may and 150 in july, so if you came to Lyon in July, it can explain the price, especially in town center, high touristic zone.
Dijon is not a touristic destination so prices must be a lilltle more stable than in cities like paris, lyon, bordeaux, or all the south coast in summer.
At 6:17, that's not palais de la bourse, that's the back of the city hall you're showing... Love from Lyon 😘
If I go to France again I will probably skip Paris and go to Lyon! You sound so enthusiastic!
We french drink wine only during meals, it's a trourist trick to have wine outside of meals, we may drink it out of meals but it's rare, we have a drink when we're thisty and when you'r thirsty, it's better to have a beer rather than wine, plus we have some good artisanal good french beers too.