The last Iranian woman potter using the ancient technique
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2012
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In April 2011, we (Patty and Morty) received an e-mail from Javad Mehrbannia from Iran, who holds a B.A degree in archaeology, asking if we were interested to see a documentary he had put together about a potter woman in Iran and her ancient techniques. A few weeks later, we received his DVD documenting what we believe is the way pottery was done thousands of years ago. Javad excitedly asked in further emails if we had received the DVD, what we thought of it and if we were willing to show the content to our students. Javad, who is related to the woman potter, Nana Soghra, was concerned that this ancient pottery method would disappear without an opportunity for future generations to see it and after watching his DVD with fascination, we agreed with Javad. We edited and posted his documentary in the video below. We shortened it, his original is over an hour in length, so be aware that much of the potter's repetitive and grueling effort to make only a few pots is much more than what you see. Below are some of Javad's comments regarding the video (unedited).
#lakesidepottery #kintsugigallery
I'm Iranian,and I'm proud of it, we ,people I mean, love other people of any nation.and respect to them.what governments and Politicans do,is not what we want.
The same politicians that protected you from being blown to pieces by usa?
Yes, you are right! Any politician is the opposite to free people! We don't need hirachie! Only I know, what's best for me! And I decide wether to love or hate. I decide love!
After firing, the goats hair turned into carbon. After washing with water, the fine holes from the goats hair will make the whole jar perspire and the temperature of the water inside to cool down. They place these jars outside in a cool shade and the water is cold by evaporating on the surface from these goat's hair minute holes.
HI
All you have to do is not glaze the pots, then they remain porous and evaporation keeps the water in it to stay cool and fresh. Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua.
To think her knowledge and technique has passed from generation to generation for thousands of years, untouched, from a mothers to daughters, without a book or video, just from one heart to another, makes me get goosebumps.
I liked the fact that this video has no music, because music would have taken away from the video, I like the video . thanks Al
Ahmet - if you are watching, please send greetings to Nana Soghra and her lovely children, helpful husband and curious chickens. My back is killing me just watching her.
Javad, I mean.
These people from what country?
Their COB house is really amazing! It is made from earth sand and must have taken a lot of effort and hours to build.
It's interesting to see the pottery-making process from such an arid part of the world. She is even more economical with her water than her clay. It was almost painful to see her meticulously separating the (goat? camel?) hair into individual strands so that it would hold her grog-filled clay together. I use paper pulp for the same thing, but I just throw a little paper into the blender and whoosh! I have enough pulp for a whole bag of clay. I truly admire those who take an art from its beginnings to its completion. Thank you for sharing yet another precious piece of wisdom with us, Javad, Patty, and Morty! I'm glad this was documented for us and will not be lost.
Jolynne Berrett az
its not that arid really, Iran have for seasons and most of the arid part are in central iran, north and south are full of woods and forest.
A work of art . Wonderful pieces to enjoy .
How come the video didn't show her fring her work. I would have been interested in the final process.
Alphonsus Padavano I was wondering this as well...
Often people fire only once or twice per year, so the cameraman couldn't stay for so long or didn't come back to record it.
My respect to all of you Patty, Morty and Javad...
thanks a lot Sara!
I was hoping the end product would be shown in the video, how else to see the purpose of mixing goat's hair in the clay! The rest is basic handbuilding!
I'm going to guess that it burns off and leaves room for the ware to expand and contract without cracking.
The African Forges are made with straw embedded for that reason...just a guess.
An amazing process, thank you for sharing with us.
Amazing work! I am so glad to see this!!
thank you!
What a beautiful video! Look at the children: Not a television, not a gameboy (!). Just being part of a family, and contributing to it ...
What were they adding to the clay? Feathers, cotton, or plant fibers?
she's speaking a turkish dialect
Gracias!
nice video - where is part 2?
Thanks you Patty & Mort for making this available for us to see, and thank you Javad. Very interesting. In the credits it mentioned one of the women was daughter & bride. Were these pots made for the daughter's wedding?
not for daughter wedding.they made it to use in home and export to the periphery villages.
Javad was Carrot!!!!! just Patty and Morty
So much respect 🙏
I wonder if they are fired or air dry
Those children were learning.
Would like to have seen the complete end product. It was interesting techniques, very time consuming .
you can email me if you want to see its complete
Can you please upload it to youtube and call it part 2 and put a link in your description so people can go to it. Thank you Javad. ;-)
would love to see the whole film, it's great that such ancient techniques in pottery can still be seen made exactly as they made it thousands of years ago. Africans have a similar ancient style of pottery the same as Nana. Nana i believe to be a very ancient name, as well as the name Maryam. What about oil lamps made out of pottery, i made one years ago like the ancients made them, same style as the ancients made them, i just put olive oil inside with a bit of cloth as a wick to burn, also used a sprinkle of salt to stop the black smoke coming off of the burning, salt sure did stop that black sooty smoke. Oil or fat will burn a lamp. A documentary on ancient method of " Firing Pottery " would be terrific too, especially with cooking / baked bread, the different styles of bread and with bread and also pottery being fired and also the bread baked. I think the grains were ground down on a flat rock with a round stone or oblong shape stone by hand for grinding the grains into flour for the bread, didn't they also use fat, flour, water and some plant spices and seeds for making bread? Was there also a milk bread too? Wonderful job this documentary. Correct me if i am wrong at all but butter and cheese can be made from goats milk as well as sheep milk too, not just cattle as in the cows milk, correct? I expect there is an animal fat that can be used for a renet to make cheese with. Just thinking to keep some foods like cheese and butter cool in Iran, i guess an animal skin bag in a stream of water ( fresh water ) would be good to keep cheese and butter nice and cool. Good Luck with more documentaries! You could sell Dvd's on the website Amazon, a bit of the landscape fit into the film would be great too, especially ancient roads & ancient villages, i'd buy one in a set, a set being around 2- 3 documentary videos sold together as a " set " .
cool vid thanks
I admire her and her work...impressive...I'm just concerned about her having possible back pains due to stooping like that for the majority of it all. 😢 I wish she had a table and/or some form of work station that reduced the amount of stooping that she has to do.
Well, depends greatly on your genetics, where you are from, your ancestors. these things get into your genetics real quick,
Where is the finished fired product?
It takes at least one day to dry, then another for beating all of them and another for firing. I doubt that the camera guy stayed that long...
Please would someone be kind enough to post a translation of this lady in the comments?
Wow!
Auch hier wieder schön zu sehen das keiner auf die Idee kommt und ein Tisch benutzt für die richtigen Arbeitshöhe. Schön kaputt bücken und immer den Kopf nach vorne runter das tut gut.
I wonder if this would work with dog fur. I have a samoyed, who has both coarse guard hairs and fluffy down.
It would work. More primitive techniques used grasses.
Amazing how long she can squat!
Lakeside Pottery, Please upload the firing process. You have not done this woman's ancient pottery process justice by leaving it out.
Viel harte Arbeit. Vor 7000 Jahren waren die Hethiter, die Perser schon so berühmt für ihre exzellente und handwerklich hochstehende Keramikkunst, daß ich mich wirklich frage, wo ist dieses Wissen geblieben...
es reicht eine (!) fehlende generation, die das wissen nicht weitergeben kann, will oder darf!
man denke nur die fehlenden kenntnisse über die herstellung und verarbeitung von lebensmitteln bei uns in deutschland; wer von uns hat schonmal eine sau geschlachtet und zu wurst verarbeitet, oder auch nur käse gemacht?
früher war das wissen allgemeingut, heute gibt es kinder, die noch nichtmal wissen, wo bei der kuh die milch rauskommt!
I agree, everything useful and wonderful has disappeared, I wish I knew how my ancestors made the Ishtar gate, they made it from glazed porcelain, it is the mesopotamian civilization in Iraq,
What material she is using around 5 min ?
Looks like some kind of fur, probably goat or sheep. or it could be camel hair, as it comes off in clumps like that at certain times of the year or new born camels, there is no real use for it, so it might just be used in this.
its from date palm leaves, when a new leaves come out will produce that which look like a fur. which is good to hold clay together and not to crack.
Justina .Stankevičiūtė goats hair
Good
Remarkably hard work. Their bodies must be exhausted after squatting and bending over and their hands work so very hard. I admire their toiling very much. I must add that we're lucky to be here in the good ole USA whatever one's political bent. Thanks for a very interesting and humbling video. 1926lady
I agree
Squatting is only uncomfortable if you're used to Western-style chairs, car seats and toilets, because the skeleton and muscular system don't work together to keep the system functioning long-term. Squatting is the natural comfortable way to sit - we see children doing it in the West until they're socialsed out of it. People in squatting cultures are free of many Western afflictions which are directly caused by the abandonment of squatting, in the erroneous belief that squatting is primitive and foolish. But sitting on chairs makes big, big, big bucks for the healthcare industry.
Dafydd Saer yes I agree by squatting regularly,your knee muscles become strong and then it's no longer uncomfortable.
@@dafsaer I agree. As a westerner who was born with a bad back, squatting and sitting on hard floors is the most comfortable thing for me. I am now 60, and I am flexible and pain free.
يا زين الحجاب شحلاته البس
Very beautiful veil or hair cover, modest clothes 🌺
If I were asking for my wish next new year, it would have been my wish to learn this craft from someone like this generous lady,
so this is how our elder formed those claypot
she revived us neolithic wares trip to ancient
This is like Onggi!
She does not speak farsi Iranian or Persian. Could this language be a mixture of Armenian, Turkish and Pontiac Greek?
Except for the goat hair, we made pots like this in grade school.
I believe that the goat hair makes the vessels stronger,
بسیار عالی
سپاس گذارم
It's throwing off the wheel, but instead of the wheel spinning the person is spinning.
..Two Iranian women had been working at the potters wheel all day, when one of the women holding two balls of clay started to chuckle.. the other woman looks over and asked.. whats funny.. she replied.. these remind me of my husband.. the first woman wide-eyed said Really? are his balls that Big? the other woman said No.. but they are this dirty..
This is not Isaac Button.
a bit of commentary or music would have been really nice, the animal fur ? is't goat? sheep, horse , dog, i don't know? it's not clear , i have seen some clips on african pottery, very clear walks you through the work step by step, any way it's not bad
+Rizgar Penjweny it said goat
Please no music. Just the original sound, not more!
my kurdish friend she uses goat bristle as a temper
she is speaking Turkish, more Azerbaijan dialectic I believe, %30-40 I understood
that is right!azeri Dili
But they do not Farsi, the language of conversation Azerbaijani. This southern Azerbaijan, which is now in Iran. Russia and Iran divided Azerbaijan! It is sad...
Hopefully she won't be the last. I never like using that phrase... the last. Too hopeless and sad. There are traditional potrers around the world and they are respected by other potters. This woman is leading a hard life. Life can be hard anywhere though. I know that kind of wind. It is hard to work in that kind of pelting. Respect madame.
Jamie Hume
She is using a technique still used in Africa today. It would be sad to see the skill lost from a whole region though.
because she have not instucted her techniques and methods to the young generation .so we can not see her art in her grand children and daughters.now the villagers use iron steel and plastic
hier is sauth azerbaijan dont iran
compared to ancient African pottery this is primitive
Kids in kindergarten make those for mothersday. Ancient technique maybe, but nothing special.
what awful job, it like going back to stone age, not to mud age, cave woman. why we need this in 20 century, what is teaching, there is not mean by this.
You seem very certain our civilization will never suffer catastrophe and failure. Hubris is first step to disaster. How many great civilizations have risen and fallen upon this beautiful planet? Thousands, tens of thousands?
Plus pride in ones abilities is always to be celebrated!
Why you watch?
You do not seem to understand the desire to create. She creates this, this is her work, laborious and pointless as it may seem to you, and she does it because it fulfills her. Many modern things owe their existence to some person somewhere creating things exactly like this. The other aspect you miss is self-sufficiency. When people live in a place far removed from cities, and they do not have much disposable income, they create the things they need. I’m sorry for you to not be able to understand these very basic tenets of humanity.