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- Former Development Secretary, Rory Stewart, tells Andrew Marr Liz Truss’ ‘ideological’ talk about growth may work but ’it’s not very conservative’.
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To frame environmentalists as the enemy is actually unspeakable at this point in time.
They are a bunch of lunatics trying to lead the world astray!
Depends what the environmentalists want though doesn't it?
@@rww805 Asinine response that adds nothing to anything
@@rww805 The clue is in the name, they actually want to save the planet.
@@bp6639 Not quite. What if what they want is an end to nuclear energy and all further talks of nuclear energy in favour of yet more 'renewables'?
An abrupt abolition of fossil fuels? Energy rationing and 'climate change lockdowns'? Having us all kept under intense scrutiny by the state to monitor our CO2 contributions?
These are all suggestions of some of the most vocal 'environmentalists'.
Edit: Oh yes, let's not forget banning all meat and getting us all to eat bugs.
Odd isn't it, that many of these suggestions by the enviros also happen to be those heavily favoured by a certain Mr. Schwab.
So yes, it does matter what it is the environmentalists actually want.
Truss is a career politician, she couldn't care less about the UK, that's the problem.
Right now she is a career ending politician though :p
@@WhichDoctor1 she will still get a nice big pay off, when she's ousted, and will still be a MP. She won't be going to the job centre or a food bank, any time soon.
I've never understood what the problem is with being a "career politician" is. It's all dependent on what your politics are.
They're all like that, not just Truss.
She's basically in the pocket of neoliberal think tanks and hedge fund managers. Truss and her chancellor will legislate and form policy in their favour. It's not about growing the economy, it's transparently about transferring wealth up to the top of the pyramid, while promising a trickle down from the top. But, in a largely self regulating free market, there is little incentive to share wealth with main street. Trickle down has been proven to not work in the way the promise it will.
The problem seems to come down to politicians who genuinely believe they are the ruling class.
Theres no way Liz Truss feels shes part of the ruling class though
Like Mogg and Fabricant…..
@@billpugh58 And Rory Stewart.
@@billpugh58 No way is Fabricant he went to a grammar school
And Kier Starmer….
I am a Labour voter and I think that Rory Stewart has real integrity. We need more politicians like him where we can have proper discussion instead of name calling and lying like the Tory party seem to thrive on.
Says a lot about you & the so called Labour party that now exists. Have a look at his voting record. Still think he's got integrity?
You wouln't be so generous if you saw his voting record. Its the usual mean spirted self serving Tory garbage. Truss, as ghastly as she is, is at least more honest than Stewart.
Those politicians do not have any future in Britain.
Britain is owned by oligarchs and is on the path to present a little more open fascism.
He is a decent old school type who doesn't think everyone less well off is scrounging trash
If you checkout Rorys life you can only come to the conclusion that he is a top bloke.
Well done Rory for stating the bleeding obvious . How I % of the Tory Party can elect a Prime Minister is a complete mockery of Democracy .
Yep, we have always laughed at third world countries .. now we are the laughing stock of the world… what a shambolic way to run a country..🤬🤬
Yesterday was brilliant. Despite being in charge of the economy (along with her chancellor), she basically said that it isn't her fault if we don't get growth, it is everybody else's!
Sounds about Tory…
Rory Stewart would have been amazing as a PM
Guy is too wishy washy to bring about any change… he would do well in the Lib democrats party..😏
I’m not so sure about that pal
As would Kemi Badenoch.
Deputy PM, he seems to be level headed but a PM needs a bit more boldness.
Sadly, there are not enough level headed people in the nasty party, they're all ideologues now.
I’ve never been a conservative supporter but Rory talks sense. Liz Trust has pitched her tent as an outsider even though she’s been in government for 10 years. It’s the ultimate con trick in my mind. Rory for PM? I’d vote 🗳 for him.
If you don't think Truss is Conservative then you either don't understand politics or you are highly ignorant. She is a proper Conservative as she wants to reduce taxes and state intervention... which are not what the previous Conservatives under Johnson etc. Have been doing aka raising taxes and increasing state intervention.
I've never voted for the Conservative party but I have come to realise I'm a conservative - High Tory not Thatcherite economic liberalism.
I’ve liked Rory ever since I read his book many years ago about him walking across Afghanistan, I wish he’d been voted in as the Conservative Party Leader, I think politics and the UK would be a very different and better place right now if he’d have been voted in.
Meh, a tory is a tory is a tory...The country won't be a better place until they are ALL gone from power.
If Thatcher had a Little Blue Book, Truss and the ERG reject 90% of what’s in it.
They'd probably call Churchill a socialist
Yes Thatcher was pro EU then called EEC. She could see that Britain would strive with access to a market of 400 millions and she was right (as proven by history).
@@joelleliblinc5673 The EEC is not the EU. By a long shot.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 there's no reality in the multiverse where Thatcher would have supported us leaving the single market. Not one.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 The EU built from the ECC, it was the natural, sensible, and most beneficial progression for everyone, including Britain who thrived through EU membership.
I hate this country and its politics. Pretty shamelessly selfish
I feel the same 👍
That's why this country is object to be sold out.
So do I . I’d love to be put on the plane to Rwanda !
I'd never fight for a country voting conservative. I'd follow their ethos and think every man for himself
@@redf7209 It's called Conservative - but what do they conserve? Extreme liberal economics and globalisation - nothing Tory about that.
I have never voted Tory and don't think I ever will, but I respect Rory and think he means well.
It's a shame that Rory is too honest for British politics.
The anti-environment aspects of her speech were frankly terrifying !
Not content with destroying British society, they now want to destroy the very island itself.
Don’t be fooled … the Tories have colluded with labour and the greens on all environmentalists issues… including crazy cycle lanes, the ULEZ, electric cars and planting trees in a city that frankly don’t need them.. the environmentalists scam is being played by all parties 🤬🤬
Maybe it's time for the voters to decide?
When you all will do, demand full list of all politicians on WEF' s book at taxpayer's expense and make sure your vote is not for them. The advice I give to my sons and wife entitled to vote.
Wish Rory would get back into mainstream politics, we miss him, he is Mr Integrity.
see above you mug.
Thr problem is that her ideology isn't going to create sustained growth, its an outdated triclle down based idea that may create some short term growth in places like London. Modern businesses operate in complex ecosystems and need to collaborate around innovative strategies and social responsibilities.
Business has the same fundamentals. To make money you need access to customers with money to spend. The Tories are making ours poorer, and access to the EU’s more difficult and expensive.
Yesterday she said "by the end of the year all EU red tape will be consigned to history". I'd love to see how she's going to get rid of all the extra "red tape" on exports to the EU now we're not in the single market...
Growth is not her goal, selling out Britain is the mission she got.
The fact is there were no real growth for a long time since the QE and 0 interest rate, she was in the treasury she knows the facts, and she know the BOE was creating money monthly to keep the ball rolling, if it wasn't for covid and the inflation that comes because of money created no one is talking about growth, they were happy with 1% here and there created by the money printing, now that is death they start talking about real growth production the train has long gone for that, it's hard to sell anything these days without someone somewhere else selling it cheaper
@@Sam-xq8xh That could be gotten rid of pretty easily. All we need to do is agree to enforce European Union standards and join the customs union - you know, what the Brexiteers wanted before the ERG told them they didn't.
She wants to top up the wealthy incomes at the expense of the poor, she sounds very Conservative to me.
She did exactly what she stands for,and the people who put her there. the first thing she did was, make a policy, that says my poor greedy selfish friends,who are in the top of society, and built up a shopping list of weaknesses, ( eniquities ),that have a detremental affect on lower society,need to accumulate more poison so we can, destroy lower society, and make them pay for,my greedy friends,so yes she did what she is.
The CONservatives have always been greedy and condescending to the real workers of this country.
Come back Rory! I would vote for you and I have never voted conservative.
I have a very high opinion of Rory Stewart! I would really like to see him back in Parliament!
I’m not British and hate the Conservative party because of their history BUT. I really like Rory and he could and should be part of their party and able to steer them in a better way. He was never going to her there because he is more center than right of center.
Look at his voting record. It doesn't line up with the way he speaks.
Not sure he belongs in the Tory Party anymore. I agree that he should be in politics but where? He talks much like a centre right Labour member. However (like the US) politics is polarised
He'd be much better served with Labour I think.
I agree with you. I like the philosophy behind Conservativism - Michael Oakeshott, Edmond Burke et al... but what we have is and long has been very far fom that. They seem to be bordering on fascism.... 'if you don't agree, you're an enemy of the State' sort of thing. I do wish that the truly honestly charming Rory, mad teeth 'n' all, were capable of an influential place in a party desecrating this country.
Yeah, he's a class above.
Don’t buy this: Stewart voted for cutting the top rate of tax from 50 to 45 and for every brutal austerity measure during the Cameron years. His “style” of Tory politics has been very similsr. Never forget the truth
Do you not understand the idea of party politics?
He's on the right side of politics? Would much rather have the likes of him on that side of the argument.
Growth, growth, growth means lining the pockets of Tory donors with ever more money, e.g., 45p tax cut and bankers bonuses. This is the same as "levelling up" which meant regressive polices.
U-turn Lizzy is a true Tory, she understands this and is implementing the true Tory ideology.
They say 'only' costs £2 billion to remove.
By my calculations, that could pay the wages of 60,000 nurses.
The core value of the Tory party is that the main purpose of government to extract money from working people and redistribute it to the wealthy
High earners are not entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs live off dividends . Tax cuts for high earners does not create taxable growth. It creates inflation, as in 1972,
She shown her true colours. Looking after big business, who aggressively avoid paying due taxes.
Yesterday she said "by the end of the year all EU red tape will be consigned to history". I'd love to see how she's going to get rid of all the extra "red tape" on exports to the EU now we're not in the single market...
The tory party Rory loved started dying in the 1980s, and it’s been in the final death throes when Cameron left office.
It started with Cameron .
Eighties.
@@johnrussell3961 you mean Thatcher surely. This is just an extension of her Ayn Rand policies. The last of the one nation (which Thatcher definitely was not one of) tory old guard left office over Brexit, but Hague and IDS had been eroding branch. The whole reason for letting the party decide the leader was to ensure the one nation Tories were not selected.
It’s defiently thatcher when they turned to neo liberalism
100%. It is no longer a One Nation party and the rot began with Thatcher...worsened by Cameron.
Rory Stewart is a one-nation conservative. Many one-nation conservatives arose from WWII. Pre-war many conservatives had strong right-wing views. Forced to fight next to the working classes changed their views. With the rise of Thatcher, the consensus that arose from that time went. Sadly today's conservatives have by in large reverted back to their default beliefs.
The only ideology Truss has is staying in power. She can be (and has been) a remainer, a brexiteer, a liberal, a conservative... whatever she thinks would gain her more votes
So . . . a Conservative?
Totally agree with how lizard looked at rishi sunak with disgust at the hustings when he warned if her diabolical policies her ego & arrogance is far bigger than common sense that is if she has any.
I like the fact Rory has colour coded his books.
Love listening to Rory. And I’m a leftie.
You're a prat then.
Fair enough - Rory is a raging lefty too.
I doubt you know what left or right means! It's a label used to fool people so politicians and the rich can divide to rule the fools!!
I like Rory he’s got decency written all over his face
Decency doesn’t bring about change… vision does.. and he has none.😏
just like Boris
He is still a Tory
@@missbee3618 former
@@redf7209 bojo just did what he wanted and just apologised after when found out.
We really missed out with Rory Stewart
Twyford down rally 1994.... I was there... So too was
... Elizabeth Truss...
The Tory party decayed from Thatcher onwards and finally died with the leaving of Rory Stewart.
The one-nation conservative idea of Disraeli is dead, and will not be coming back anytime soon, and we cannot let neoliberism continue winning.
I completely agree. She slugs think tanks off but she's in one, she a neoliberal. Never will work and never has. The country is in real danger from her.
She's just a vapid mouthpiece for those who don't give a toss for health, environment and basically everything we need for her growth growth growth. The growth she is referring to is probably the tumour on the side of society that the Tories have been adding to so professionally.
100% with you.
A General election Now
Things may be a disaster for the Tories, but they are not ready for a collective suicide.
We've seen your voting record Rory, stop pretending you suddenly have a conscience.
There is practically no one in the Tory party that is a conservative, including himself, he'd be more at home with LibDems.
Radical? More like simplistic and thoughtless.
On a planet with finite resources constant growth is impossible.
So let's get off planet. Sheesh, look up not down!
The only thing sustaining growth is population growth and corrupt, abstract economics (having an economy that produces nothing yet remains rich).
@@cockoffgewgle4993 So, to pick out a couple of random subjects, education and technological innovation have no value?
@@JohnBeeblebrox Our biggest industries are service industries.
I love Rory Stewart. Shame he is not in government.
Rename the Tory Party the 'Taking Liberties' Party
Nope…. Change it to CON-Servative party… we have all been conned by bozo Boris and his clown circus..🤬🤬
Whilst I would't likely agree with his politics or his vision of a 'one nation' view of the United Kingdom, I do agree with this man's integrity. I feel that he should look to forming his own political party and gather around him those similar to him who are also struggling with what the Conservative and Unionist Party have become. Once Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have finally found the courage, gumption and common sense to leave this failed union, England will need people like him to lead England to fulfill the great potential that that country also possesses.
Why don't you want Scotland, Wales and Ireland to be part of the uk?
Case in point: the Soviet Union. Whether or not you agree or disagree with Communism, the breakup of the Soviet Union had, on average, a positive economic impact on the smaller nations leaving. This is, I would argue, significantly more due to decentralisation (or recentralisation if you will) rather than actual change in economic policy, although becoming more aligned with the stronger western economies will have helped a lot empirically speaking.
@@Cumdown I don't know about that. Democracy doesn't seem to exist in britain anymore in any of the nations. As far as I can see, in each nation, i don't think any of the politicians that are in actually act as if they are representing the people of their country. I'm in wales and the welsh assembly are just another layer acting the same as Westminster and becoming richer themselves yet people no better off.
@@mel4856 Do you have evidence that the welsh government are making themselves richer because of their position in power ?
@@Cumdown I'm not one for giving up, but I am fed up of the conservatives (and labour in wales) both just take take take from the people, while the big corporations get away with paying their way, and governments lining their own pockets. In my lifetime I've never seen such a messed up Britain. And yet people here just seem to put up with it in the main. Are you not fed up with it? I know a lot who are.
We need elections more than ever
Does her list of enemies mean that the people in 55, Tufton Street are her enemies ?
The problem is that Truss is rather dim, and I'm being kind.
Because Truss is an ex liberal she has to demonstrate she is now very very conservative, extreme even.
Like Bavermans over racism
Converts become the most extreme zealots.
The ERG know Brexit was a huge con,
Truss actually believes it can be made to work.
@@johnrussell3961 I don't think she believes that that she CAN get it to work, just that she knows she MUST get it to work in order to survive in this party of cutthroats!
She's pretty much a textbook conservative, a lot of them just don't like that she's being so public with it
This! Hearing Michael Gove come out and say things like "Cutting the top rate of tax for wealthy people and banker caps is not Conservative" just had me spitting my coffee across the room. All the policies she's engaging in are things the Tory party under whoever's leadership have been trying to do for at least the entirety of this run of power, they've just been backing off or trying to find the opportunity when there won't be mass outrage for them doing it.
The Conservative Party used to be just that - Conservative. They deferred to tradition, were suspicious of change and valued rigid, hierarchical social stability. Thatcher was the main break from that - economically, she was more like a 19th century Liberal, but still had some of the traits of social conservatism. Liz Truss is a step beyond that. She's more akin to the extreme right of America than the traditional Tory party.
You're wrong, there's nothing conservative about the recent omni-shambles governments.
She's only put people from a particular faction into ministries and the real Conservatives were already warning in choice words that CaTrusstrophe would be a disaster
@@th8257 Maybe I'm a little biased against the Tory's in general but to me it just seems she's doing what they've always done in order to maintain a traditional social hierarchy; support the wealthy at the expense of the working class. As far as I can tell the main difference between Truss and her more recent predecessors is that she has no intention of selling herself as a "party for the people" and that's what a lot of her ilk don't like about her, she's destroying the facade that they've built up.
@@th8257 I certainly saw the meaning of "conservatives" in a new light after Rory's interview today! I was under the impression that being conservative meant conserving their (and their donors) wealth - usually at the expense of the poorer.
Who wants to live in a Singapore type society?
Yesterday she said "by the end of the year all EU red tape will be consigned to history". I'd love to see how she's going to get rid of all the extra "red tape" on exports to the EU now we're not in the single market...
Sensible business sees EU member red tape as the price you pay to access 450m customers.
Why would you chose less red tape just to access 65m customers getting poorer under the Tories?
She is preparing an alliance with Putin and Erdogan to put Europe to its knees.
He was kicking out that Buzz word "RADICAL" HOW MANY TIMES DID HE SAY IT 😂😂✌️🇬🇧✌️
The anti-growth coalition is anyone who isn't an energy firm, a banker or a hedge fund manager
That sounds antisemitic
The fact that you could so easily see Rory Stewart as a Labour MP should tell you all you need to know about the British two-party state, and how this system is standing in the way of bringing to a halt the very obvious decline of this nation.
Media have turned Rory into a populist figure but the voting record and actual views make him a right wing tory that has supported their cruelty. Public are being fooled by the media the way they fooled the public about Boris.
An sensible modern conservative wow!
Please please don't let us become America!! I'm glad to live in this country.
To achieve economic grow means filling the empoyment shortfall of about 2 million jobs. By definition, that means encouraging work immigration and not stopping it as there is no other way of filling those jobs.
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Thanks mate… guess you failed in economics… you don’t need cheap labour for growth, you need investment… and you cannot have that if the country is drowning in debt… 😏
@@franceleeparis37 Did you not read properly? He was talking about being unable to fill 2 million jobs.
How will “investment” fix that? Perhaps by doubling wages and salaries?
I’m fed up with emphasis on speeches . It’s action that matters . Are they aware that political history is full of political speeches designed to convince people of their own sense of inflated importance and means NOTHING without action to follow up countless claims. Her speech for example doesn’t change the nightmare that is the UK driven by an ego over substance .
Amazing how you can interpret a 2% majority for Brexit into, let's tear up everything with Europe and decimate our trading relationships and run our currency into the gutter.
Better emigrate to mainland Europe then!
When is Rory going to be pm
More Action less talk is needed
in solving problems in the Uk from
every political party.
I love Rory's personality and intelligence. Why oh why did the Conservatives not elect him to be their leader?
Surely you jest?
I’m a Labour voter but I would have considered voting Conservative if Rory had been Prime Minister, we need his Integrity, not the lying self serving, hate filled politicians at the top of the Tory party now.
Because they're the Tory party.
He has far too much sense and compassion for their base to ever put him in high office.
Just look at the rest of them.
Because of who they are!
He's too busy globe trotting his career.
Indeed
If Rory Stewart were leader of the Tories we would be in a much better place.
Power breeds folly. "Responsibility fades as the exercise of power increases. The overall responsibility of power is to govern as reasonably as possible in the interests of the state and its citizens. A duty in that process is to keep well-informed... to keep mind and judgement open and to resist the spell of wooden-headedness. If a mind is open enough to perceive that a policy is harming, rather than serving sel-interest and self-confident enough to acknowledge it, and wise enough to reverse it, that is a summit in the art of government." Barbara M Tuchman ' The March of Folly'.
Rory Stewart is a class act.
Love this man
Free marketeer, supports trickle-down economics, supports banker bonuses, supports profiteering by the energy companies, pro-tax cuts for the rich, idolises thatcher.... in what way is she NOT a Tory?
This is the man who should have led the Tory Party.
what would Rory know he's a liberal not even a Red Tory? Truss is a conservative Conservative
This kind of polarising rhetoric is everything that is wrong with the UK at the moment. We need a government that brings the country together not divide it further
We desperately needed him to win the PM seat... now look at the mess
They Live?
Rory is blinking for all of us
Polarisation isn’t a new tactic.
Lovely to see democracy in action
Joking?
@@peterebel7899 of course that are joking 😆
Is there any particular reason why the 'conservative' in the description begins with a lower-case 'c'? It would have had more impact had it been 'C', because I dare say that much of what Liz Truss said in her speech wasn't 'conservative', but it would have been truly revelatory had it not been 'Conservative', as I think Rory Stewart is trying to imply.
The high earners are just going to buy more Gold if they have more money.
Stewart you ate not conservative either really were you?
20/20 hurts watching the EX-politician nail it
Very few Conservatives are socially Conservative that’s for sure. They’re Liberals like Stewart, Truss and Johnson.
None of this lot are conservative , hard work is not paying off !
She’s a mixture of hard right wealth serving & a UKIP mentality. I struggle to see it anything as anything but extreme selfishness.
‘Hard right..’ are you serious..? She is a lump of play dough that anyone can mould into any shape…😂😂
That's an optimistic view of it all - I personally believe she is pure evil and that there is literally no humanity. Others in power are nasty with a touch of humanity she is just evil.
Lizz Truss is as Mad as Maggie Thatcher the problem is people have forgotten how krap life was under mad Maggie
If they are looking for a new name for the Tory party La Trussette leads, how about the Destructive and Fracktionist party?
Growth isn’t a goal, it’s a means to an end, a strategy to achieve? Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.
Nor is Stewart
Real Tories are peter Hitchens and Rory
If you don’t like that, you can just leave
In effect Liz Truss' speech was an appeal, a plea to just follow her down into her personal spiral of magical thinking where simply using the words "growth" and "aspiration" will somehow deliver results. We are all being required to cast aside belief in observable facts and instead join her in her delusions.
This has aged well.
Hasn't Stewart voted for benefits cuts and against benefits increases every time? He's a tory alright.
Correct Shaun. He is as vile as any Tory.
As if economic growth would in some magical way effect the percentage of wealth that ends in the hands of average citizens. You can very well generate growth and have loads of people below the living wage employed in the gig-economy still reliant on food-banks. As demonstrated in the US and ... let me think... there is this island nation in nort western Europe - don't recall the name at the moment, but they tried this deregulation/free-market experiment and failed miserably
She's welcome to visit the North.... We've got loads of eggs
Truss is conservative, albeit an extreme version of it...and the majority of party members voted for her as leader. Fact.
Lol.. she is a right , then go further right and you turn right
Economic growth does not necessarily benefit all of us, and has been shown to widen inequality in living standards, as the rich get richer, then by definition the gap must grow larger.
Companies do not usually increase wages, or share the profits more equally when they make larger profits, do they ?
Inequality also leads to more crime and social disorder.
We are supposed to be all in it together, which is true.
We all benefit the most when we take care of each other.
It's not rocket- science.
I think I can see the glint in souleness zeal in Truss's eyes that if it came to the very worst of it - e.g. on channel boat migration that if detainment camps - or concentration and even death camps that Cruella Braverman might want - then she would easily accede to, without much concern.
At least if it got her further along in her own ambitions.
She appears to have no humanity, no morals - none. Very much like her predecessor in that regard.
You can fool some people BUT you cannot fool the majority!!!! And they are the ones that count.
So is the photography fronting this video a mock up, or is it genuine? Either way, the whole situation stinks to high heaven.
Rory needs to work on the acoustics in his room. He makes eminent sense to me and has a melodious speaking voice, but I still struggle to listen when the sound is that bad.