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  • integral of sqrt(1-x^2) from 1 to 1
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Komentáře • 244

  • @MathNerd1729
    @MathNerd1729 Před 3 lety +378

    OG fans know that he did this with √(1+x²) as well

  • @berzerksharma
    @berzerksharma Před 3 lety +168

    The substitute function must be bijective. Most of the books don't tell that.

    • @davidepaolillo7218
      @davidepaolillo7218 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Injective

    • @markgross9582
      @markgross9582 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I mean that’s what the jacobian tells you

    • @fahimnabeel606
      @fahimnabeel606 Před 10 měsíci

      What does that mean can som1 tell

    • @markgross9582
      @markgross9582 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@fahimnabeel606 It just means that it's invertible.

    • @markgross9582
      @markgross9582 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@davidepaolillo7218 Yeah this is more right. Generally, the jacobian is det(W^T*W) with W being a matrix of the partials and W^T being W transpose. Injective is all you really need

  • @romain.guillaume
    @romain.guillaume Před 11 měsíci +25

    The substitution x=sin(t) works. Borns of integration became -pi/2 and pi/2

  • @channalbert
    @channalbert Před 11 měsíci +11

    What you can do is use the fact that f(x) is symmetric, f(-x) = f(x), split the integral from (-1, 1) to (-1,0) plus (0, 1) and then you can see the two different integrals are equal due to symmetry, now the limits of u are from 0 to 1 and the u substitution works.
    When there are no symmetric arguments, use complex calculus and residue theorem iykwim.

  • @fedorlozben6344
    @fedorlozben6344 Před 2 lety +5

    Fun)
    For guys who does not understand why it does not work i will explain.
    Substitution in integral required that on a;b exists function and it is continuous and its derivative exists too.
    g(x)' there has x in the denominator but in the -1;1 exists 0 which mean function will break there.

  • @ashtonsmith1730
    @ashtonsmith1730 Před 3 lety +13

    how to take a derivative of polynomials
    1.factor
    2.differnate using the product rule
    3.expand
    a example should help
    x²+2x+1
    (x+1)(x+1)
    (x+1)*1+(x+1)×1
    2x+2

    • @ryanjagpal9457
      @ryanjagpal9457 Před 3 lety

      So that’s the answer? Weird how it works that way

    • @BroArmyCommander
      @BroArmyCommander Před 3 lety +2

      @@ryanjagpal9457 It's a bit of a joke. You can just differentiate every monomial individually lol

    • @ryanjagpal9457
      @ryanjagpal9457 Před 3 lety

      @@BroArmyCommander For example like (3 + a)^3 how would you do that in
      (3+a)(3+a)(3+a), I can do the first two not sure about the last one, it’s probably too hard for cubed

    • @roygalaasen
      @roygalaasen Před 3 lety +1

      This is actually hilarious 😆

    • @ryanjagpal9457
      @ryanjagpal9457 Před 3 lety +1

      @@roygalaasen Hehe

  • @Happy_Abe
    @Happy_Abe Před 3 lety +316

    Why, in theory, does the U-sub fail?

    • @cyrenux
      @cyrenux Před 3 lety +66

      Upper integral and lower integral is the same (u=0) which means answer is 0 when the question is made out of a circle that has center on origin so x² + y² = 1 and if u leave y alone u get y=sqrt(1-x²) which is the function in the question

    • @Happy_Abe
      @Happy_Abe Před 3 lety +228

      @@cyrenux right, but I’m asking why the substitution fails in theory. Meaning I know the integral doesn’t equal 0 but what about the substitution was wrong

    • @cyrenux
      @cyrenux Před 3 lety +15

      @@Happy_Abe my bad but now that you said it what i thought according to a shorcut i saw a while ago that this function is even so when u u sub it changes nothing, just like any even function which has upper as x=a and lower as x=-a you will still get 0 so right way to solve them is by drawing the shape first but i could be incorrect, im just trying to guess

    • @theimmux3034
      @theimmux3034 Před 3 lety +4

      We dewen sum maths 'ere innit bruv 3Head

    • @Happy_Abe
      @Happy_Abe Před 3 lety +22

      @3head individual I haven’t heard of that for u-sun, can you elaborate on that or point me to some further readings on this?
      I’m curious of the formal way we define a substitution in integrals to be valid

  • @ripudamansingh5826
    @ripudamansingh5826 Před 3 lety +27

    You can use sine or cosine function to substitute the x.

  • @asparkdeity8717
    @asparkdeity8717 Před rokem +2

    This is on par with doing a u = e^-x^2 sub for the Gaussian to get 0, or a u = cosx sub for integrating cod between -a and a etc…
    Basically for any even function, u cannot simply substitute for the integrand else the upper and lower limits will always evaluate to be the same value

  • @manuelocana8074
    @manuelocana8074 Před měsícem

    The problem is that the function being integrated wouldn't be of the form f(u(x))u'(x), because u' isn't defined at endpoints.

  • @factsheet4930
    @factsheet4930 Před 3 lety +10

    Also if you did do a U sub, the new function wouldn't have been continues at 0 😉

    • @nikhilnagaria2672
      @nikhilnagaria2672 Před 2 lety +1

      what

    • @auseziegieteursucraineiwst3680
      @auseziegieteursucraineiwst3680 Před měsícem

      ​@@nikhilnagaria2672 just needs to be continuous in the interval you're integrating, otherwise you'll need to split the integral and use limits to get the answer.

  • @meharmadaan8838
    @meharmadaan8838 Před 3 lety +80

    dU : *Am I a joke to you*

  • @2009mrsuresh
    @2009mrsuresh Před 3 lety +1

    You're teaching in simplest ways.
    Unbelievable person You're.
    Just like calculus/deviate 👍😌

  • @zlatanbrekke6538
    @zlatanbrekke6538 Před 3 lety +1

    My 2 solutions using integrals:
    1. Substitute x = cos(u), dx = -sin(u)du,
    Get integral -S sin^2(u)du, solve using integration by parts and trig identities and get pi/2
    2. Switch to polar coordinates and solve ;D

  • @Calum79
    @Calum79 Před 2 lety +2

    When you have. √(a^2 - x^2) can't you just let x = a*sin(u) or x = a*cos(u) ?

  • @dj.matexx
    @dj.matexx Před 3 lety +5

    I don't understand anything but i like the video because it is so well explained (i just assume, because he usually explains so well)

  • @somethingelse9228
    @somethingelse9228 Před 3 lety +43

    I don't even know what integrals are, why am I watching this?

    • @Lser03
      @Lser03 Před 3 lety +13

      Ik integrals just help you find the area under the curve :))

    • @jamesvazzo3870
      @jamesvazzo3870 Před 3 lety

      😆

    • @kaustubhpatil6379
      @kaustubhpatil6379 Před 3 lety +1

      Love this man you will never fail in maths

    • @dan-us6nk
      @dan-us6nk Před rokem

      I hope now you do.

    • @dan-us6nk
      @dan-us6nk Před rokem

      @@Lser03 antiderivative is awesome as well, even better in my opinion.

  • @manuelocana8074
    @manuelocana8074 Před měsícem

    The problem is that the function inside the integral can't be written as f(u(x))u'(x).

  • @pedrosso0
    @pedrosso0 Před 2 lety +3

    I thought he was gonna explain why this doesn't work.

    • @ronbannon
      @ronbannon Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/waqlinTaKO8/video.html

  • @michaelpopup
    @michaelpopup Před 3 lety +5

    I'm not equivalent to a formula! *cries in matter*

  • @madhusinha7054
    @madhusinha7054 Před rokem

    You can only substitute a function as u if it doest not have any maxima or minima in the interver in which we are integrating
    The rule says that we can let a function as u only if it is strictly monotonous and it must be differentiable in the interver

  • @fedealcaraz8899
    @fedealcaraz8899 Před 3 lety +3

    Where can I find a “theory of substitutions “? , In which book?

  • @ashutoshsingh450
    @ashutoshsingh450 Před 3 lety +1

    Break the limits in two parts... from -1 to 0
    Then 0 to 1
    Then integrate...

  • @abdosalah3832
    @abdosalah3832 Před 3 lety +1

    1-x ^2 is an even function
    then the integral will be from 0 to 1

  • @irokpe6977
    @irokpe6977 Před 11 měsíci +1

    To me you're not supposed to change the limits of the integral from x to u. Since you made the substitution for u you could have solved the integral with your substitution by changing back to x instead of u. From there find the value of the integral.

  • @Fauzan_Botakman
    @Fauzan_Botakman Před 3 lety +4

    Is'nt it using trigonometry sub ?

  • @oni8337
    @oni8337 Před 3 lety +2

    what if you want integral of √(1+4x²) from 0 to 2 dx

    • @H0tinNYC
      @H0tinNYC Před 3 lety +2

      Use trigonometric substitution. Let x=(1/2)*tan(u), and proceed further.

  • @user-ox5ml5ee9v
    @user-ox5ml5ee9v Před 3 lety +11

    I faced the same issue recently
    Can you do a video on why sometimes it doesn't work

    • @user-lc6jq1hi1r
      @user-lc6jq1hi1r Před 3 lety

      try graphing

    • @deadmayday6702
      @deadmayday6702 Před 3 lety +1

      Substitution has to be injective

    • @aravinds3846
      @aravinds3846 Před 3 lety +2

      Because for even functions, like the one here area of graph is same from x = -1 to X = 0 and x =0 to x = 1. So this integral can simplified to twice the integral from x= 0 to x = 1 U sub will work after that

    • @pedrosso0
      @pedrosso0 Před 2 lety +1

      @@deadmayday6702 injective?

    • @nikhilnagaria2672
      @nikhilnagaria2672 Před 2 lety +2

      @@pedrosso0 it should not map two values to one here (-1)^2 = 1^2 so u=x^2 is not injective.

  • @klementhajrullaj1222
    @klementhajrullaj1222 Před 2 lety

    YOU HAVE MADE US DIFFICULTY WITH THIS BEARD THAT KEEPS THESE LAST TIMES, WHEN EXPLAINING THE EXERCISES! ...

  • @alexandermorozov2248
    @alexandermorozov2248 Před měsícem

    Нужно разбить на 2 интеграла, от 0 до 1 и от 1 до 0.

  • @elaadt
    @elaadt Před měsícem

    Half of the circle is above the x axis and half is below. The sum of the positive half and the negative half is zero, so the first solution is OK. %D

    • @Wutheheooooo
      @Wutheheooooo Před měsícem

      It's not below man. It's the positive part of a circle

  • @kylenetherwood8734
    @kylenetherwood8734 Před 3 lety +2

    Does it only fail when both the limits become equal or does it fail in other circumstances too?

    • @nikhilnagaria2672
      @nikhilnagaria2672 Před 2 lety +1

      It is WRONG whenever the substitution is not injective.

  • @matherbolic
    @matherbolic Před 3 lety +1

    I do not think that this is correct way to substitute limits because as x varies from -1 to 1 , u varies from 0 to 1 , not 0 to 0 , which can be proved by considering the inequality that since
    -1

    • @catfromlothal8506
      @catfromlothal8506 Před 3 měsíci

      -1

    • @viktorsmets29
      @viktorsmets29 Před měsícem

      That's not true. The inequality is not preserved when squaring because y=x² is not an increasing function over the interval [-1,1]. For example, x=0: -1

  • @nahbrudda
    @nahbrudda Před rokem

    Me when I'm asked to integrate an odd function with limits -a to +a

  • @mattiapezzano1713
    @mattiapezzano1713 Před 3 lety +1

    I lost him at x=1

  • @bullinmd
    @bullinmd Před 3 lety

    When you graph this curve, notice the area under the curve in [-1, 0] is the same as the area under the curve in [0, 1]. Thus, you can rewrite the integral to 2 times the integral of the function from 0 to 1.

    • @ammyvl1
      @ammyvl1 Před 3 lety

      Ok...

    • @roygalaasen
      @roygalaasen Před 3 lety

      That is called an “even function”, and your observation is correct.

  • @joshuaeliasalva2774
    @joshuaeliasalva2774 Před 3 lety

    You can do some trig sub though

  • @clex2349
    @clex2349 Před 3 lety +1

    Couldn’t you set the lower limit to 0, upper limit to 1, and place a 2 out front due to it being symmetrical?

  • @Cultura_Matematica
    @Cultura_Matematica Před 3 lety +1

    Collab with #MathRocks pls

  • @thevastuniverse246
    @thevastuniverse246 Před 3 lety +1

    But...what if it was a indefinite integral with no upper limit and lower limit? Then could we use the *u* sub?

    • @dylandejonge5069
      @dylandejonge5069 Před 3 lety +3

      Yes but the function y = sqrt(1-x^2) has y-axis symmetry so the integral of y from -a to a will be the same as 2 * the integral of y from 0 to a. If you do a u sub there it should work. Also you can sub x = sin(u), dx = cos(u)du to get the integral of cos(u)^2 from -π/2 to π/2 and that will work for 100%

  • @user-rq6gd8yy2t
    @user-rq6gd8yy2t Před rokem

    This is just the half area of the unit circle 🙏

  • @aweebthatlovesmath4220

    Please prove or explain what actually happened

  • @Larsbutb4d
    @Larsbutb4d Před měsícem

    me who already knows rhe integral: 👁👄👁

  • @basiletank23
    @basiletank23 Před 3 lety

    Let X be cos(u)^2 or sin(u)^2

  • @himanshuchaudhary3718
    @himanshuchaudhary3718 Před 3 lety

    Goat.

  • @henrylee4374
    @henrylee4374 Před 3 lety

    U-sub didn't get jt wrong, U subbed wrong haha

  • @oke126
    @oke126 Před 3 lety

    You have to let x either be sin or cos theta

  • @craftbuzzwonky4752
    @craftbuzzwonky4752 Před 3 lety

    For this only, I got subbed to your new channel.
    You would not believe, the moment you discussed this amazing error,
    My thumb subbed you mistakenly.
    Your sub gone wrong as well 🤣.

  • @berserkerbobby9777
    @berserkerbobby9777 Před 3 lety +1

    Why doesn't it work? When does it not work?

    • @carultch
      @carultch Před 11 měsíci

      It doesn't work because the integrand isn't bijective over the domain bounded by the two limits of integration. In other words, it isn't a 1-to-1 function.
      You also can't just make u equal to anything you want, you have to be able to reconcile it such that you can replace the dx with du, in order for u-substitution to work.

  • @vikassama5398
    @vikassama5398 Před 3 lety

    Why not just let x=cos theta or sin theta

  • @MonzennCarloMallari
    @MonzennCarloMallari Před 3 lety

    I think the point here is that pi/2 = 0

  • @asparkdeity8717
    @asparkdeity8717 Před 3 lety +1

    Isn’t that just finding the area under the top half of the unit circle, so the answer is pi/2 ?
    Edit: Oh I felt so happy I got one right

    • @roygalaasen
      @roygalaasen Před 3 lety

      This realisation is why I didn’t post a comment about this being an even function, hence you can integrate from 0 to 1 and multiply by 2.

  • @xyz20121000
    @xyz20121000 Před rokem

    You changed the variable but you didn't change the derivative dx 😂

  • @calvinyip364
    @calvinyip364 Před 3 lety

    If it's wrong why did the question give us like this?

  • @manakmishra
    @manakmishra Před 3 lety

    How about we just use sin inv(x/a)

  • @dr.rahulgupta7573
    @dr.rahulgupta7573 Před 3 lety

    Pikachu might have suggested this substitution .Very good. DrRahul Rohtak Haryana India

  • @ronbannon
    @ronbannon Před rokem

    I like the issue you're discussing here. It may seem like a conundrum, but it is not. It made me think about this issue, so I integrated it into my notes. For those interested, I posted a video response: czcams.com/video/waqlinTaKO8/video.html

  • @allmight801
    @allmight801 Před 3 lety +7

    But why does this not work?

    • @dylandejonge5069
      @dylandejonge5069 Před 3 lety

      Change the limits of integration

    • @dylandejonge5069
      @dylandejonge5069 Před 3 lety

      Sorry, make a trigonometric sub

    • @zoltankurti
      @zoltankurti Před 3 lety +2

      @@dylandejonge5069 that's not the question.

    • @zoltankurti
      @zoltankurti Před 3 lety +5

      To change variables, you need a differentiable bijection between the two domains of integration. This substitution gives the same value for x and -x, so it's not a bijection. If you split the domain into two halfs, [-1,0] and [0,-1], even u=1-x^2 substitution will work, but you have to treat the two integrals differently, (and this u sub won't really help to evaluate the integral).

    • @allmight801
      @allmight801 Před 3 lety

      @@zoltankurti thank you

  • @specstress879
    @specstress879 Před 3 lety

    where i can buy your merch?

  • @wistfulgraph
    @wistfulgraph Před 3 lety

    Im in 8th grade. Why am I obsessed with these videos?

  • @josephnaylor
    @josephnaylor Před měsícem

    Trig sub!

  • @AhmadAhmad-qx6fp
    @AhmadAhmad-qx6fp Před 3 lety +1

    Brotha please!
    Sqrt (1-x^2) is an even function of x..
    So, obviously there'd be symmetry within the graph of y = f(x)..
    Thus, the area under the graph from x= -1 to x=1 is just twice the area under the graph from x=0 to x=1..
    Id est, there'd be no problem transforming respective values

  • @gonzalograu8451
    @gonzalograu8451 Před 3 lety

    ok but why does it not work?

  • @leonardobarrera2816
    @leonardobarrera2816 Před rokem

    The answer is correct, but if you plug in a calculator, the calculator will give you an other answer

  • @richardjonesiii2856
    @richardjonesiii2856 Před 3 lety

    Is there seriously not a mapping from x to u that accurately defines the solution as π/2?

    • @carultch
      @carultch Před 11 měsíci

      The function needs to be bijective, for changing the limits of the integral to the u-world to work. Most books don't cover this condition. If the function isn't bijective, you have to separate the integral until you can add up multiple integrals, each of which is bijective.
      If you don't know what a bijective function is, it means a function that the inputs map uniquely onto the outputs, with no overlap. In other words, a 1-to-1 function, or a function whose inverse isn't multivalued.

  • @AJ-ql6dz
    @AJ-ql6dz Před 3 lety

    That is not how i u-sub

  • @jayantbhatt1977
    @jayantbhatt1977 Před 3 lety +1

    His English makes me forget mine

  • @joaquingutierrez3072
    @joaquingutierrez3072 Před 3 lety

    Cool, but, why?

  • @kaustubhpatil6379
    @kaustubhpatil6379 Před 3 lety

    Me it's an odd function 😀😀 I am great

  • @jos.der.2708
    @jos.der.2708 Před 3 lety +1

    On my opinion, the U-sub fail because you cannot simply set u equals anything you want. You must do something with the "dx".

  • @ialolyan
    @ialolyan Před rokem

    You should make sure that you can find du
    For example ∫x² from - 1 to 1
    If we assume u=x²
    We can not find du

  • @alecsdking144
    @alecsdking144 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm very curious, where in my life am I gonna use this 🤔🤔

    • @carultch
      @carultch Před 11 měsíci

      Look up "Applications of Integration"

  • @aryanbansal624
    @aryanbansal624 Před 3 lety

    nooo i think you missed one step.... hear me out ok 😁 ---> just after the "u" sub, we cannot sub the limits just like that.... this is because the initial x was varying from -1 to 1 directly..... like -1, -0.9, .....,-0.1, 0, +0.1, .....,+0.9, +1 .K but here if we look at the limits of u which depend on the x values.... value of "u first goes from 0 to 1 and THEN only it goes from 1 to 0 so if we break the integral limits from 0 to 1 and from 1 to zero WE WILL GET CORRECT ANSWER..

    • @nikhilnagaria2672
      @nikhilnagaria2672 Před 2 lety +1

      Okay so you always have to break integrals like that? Say you have ∫dx from 0 to 100. Will we have to break it from 0 to 1, 1 to 2, 2 to 3, and so on??

    • @aryanbansal624
      @aryanbansal624 Před 2 lety

      @@nikhilnagaria2672 Yes we can but since the limit 0-->100 is all positive and increasing, like there isn't any monkey business going on when going from 0 to 100 so we can integrate without splitting limits
      :)
      Although if you try splitting limits you will always get correct answer

    • @nikhilnagaria2672
      @nikhilnagaria2672 Před 2 lety

      @@aryanbansal624 so what BPRP did is wrong because we should split the limits right?

    • @aryanbansal624
      @aryanbansal624 Před 2 lety

      @@nikhilnagaria2672 Ok so bprp didnt do anything wrong as he did mention that the u substitution was the wrong method and then he solved it graphically.
      Although the u substitution WILL work if we split the limits at appropriate locations so basically there are multiple ways of solving this.
      Just keep in mind, whenever we do a substitution we need to correctly replace the limits. We shouldn't just blindly plug in the values, in such cases a rough graphical sketch gives a lot of insight where we should break the limits.

    • @nikhilnagaria2672
      @nikhilnagaria2672 Před 2 lety +1

      @@aryanbansal624 I think you missed the key point here: the u-sub fails because the u-sub should be injective (bijective) in the domain

  • @halilkarabiber1623
    @halilkarabiber1623 Před 3 lety

    I dont understand but i watching '?D

  • @harris5140
    @harris5140 Před měsícem

    You're looking more weird with your goatee 😮😢

  • @nilsalmgren4492
    @nilsalmgren4492 Před rokem

    You can't make that u substitution because there is no x in the problem to cancel out the x left over when finding du.

  • @AnishKumar-gi1wr
    @AnishKumar-gi1wr Před 3 lety

    Maths ki maa behen 1 kr di
    Bhai substitution karo to pyar se warna mat karo
    Bhai 1-x^2 is not monotonous in [-1,1] jo substitute kaise kar diye
    Jara ruko sabar karo
    Dekho pahle tab aage badhna

  • @mr_angry_kiddo2560
    @mr_angry_kiddo2560 Před 3 lety

    😍😍😍😍

  • @aaaaahhhhhh6969
    @aaaaahhhhhh6969 Před 3 lety +1

    So pi /2 = 0

  • @rakshitsharma9989
    @rakshitsharma9989 Před 3 lety

    U need to learn before teaching 😂

  • @EMEngi4ALL
    @EMEngi4ALL Před rokem

    It's -pi/2

  • @user-oy8zh5dc2h
    @user-oy8zh5dc2h Před měsícem

    ∀x ∈ [-a,a], f(x) = f(-x) => ∫{-a,a}f(x)dx = 0