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  • We will solve 4 impossible-looking equations, sqrt(x)+sqrt(-x)=2, ln(x)+ln(-x)=0, e^x+e^(-x)=0, and sin(x)+sin(-x)=2. From verifying the domains of the functions to finding real solutions, we go step-by-step through each equation. And just when you think you've got it figured out, we hit you with one more equation that's sure to blow your mind! Get ready to flex your mental muscles and solve some of the trickiest equations out there. #math #equation #blackpenredpen
    0:00 sqrt(x)+sqrt(-x)=2
    3:27 ln(x)+ln(-x)=0
    6:10 e^x+e^(-x)=0
    10:29 sin(x)+sin(-x)=2
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Komentáře • 502

  • @oreocookiedough
    @oreocookiedough Před 2 lety +2665

    Putting these no solution questions as a pre-cal bonus question saying "graph the function" would be humorous when the people who don't know what to do leave it blank and then you mark it correct.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 2 lety +553

      😆

    • @janfilby7086
      @janfilby7086 Před 2 lety +381

      I would still manage to fail by drawing some bullshit curve 🤣

    • @mathsman5219
      @mathsman5219 Před 2 lety +23

      @@janfilby7086 😂😂

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 Před 2 lety +13

      @@blackpenredpen I got x equals 2 divided by i when I squared it..you didn't mention that? Why not?

    • @linuxnoodle8682
      @linuxnoodle8682 Před 2 lety +56

      @@leif1075 If you multiply 2/i by i/i, you get -2i. They are equivalent.

  • @ecg3703
    @ecg3703 Před 2 lety +776

    The last one has no solution at all because sin(-x) is equal to -sin x so the equation sin x+sin(-x)=2 is the same as saying sin (x)-sin(x)=2 now we can cancle the two sines and we get the equation 0=2 and it has no solution.

    • @notmuchgd9842
      @notmuchgd9842 Před 2 lety +62

      thanks, i forgot that sin(-x)=-sin(x)
      so it seems that sin(x)+sin(-x)=/=2

    • @VenkataB123
      @VenkataB123 Před 2 lety +141

      Exactly what I got! But, in a slightly different way.
      So, we have sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2
      We know that sin(a) + sin(b) = 2sin(a+b/2)cos(a-b/2)
      So, applying this, we get,
      2sin(x-x/2)cos(x+x/2) = 2
      2sin(0)cos(x) = 2
      0=2
      The fact that sin(x) is an odd function struck me much later, and now I feel I wasted time doing all this😂

    • @VenkataB123
      @VenkataB123 Před 2 lety +20

      @@notmuchgd9842 Don't think that's what is intended. Instead, it would still be sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 (this comes from how we defined the separate functions) but f(x) doesn't have a solution.
      What you're saying is like saying x^2 =/= -1 just because you can't find a solution in the Real realm. So, maybe the other function has a solution in a set of numbers we haven't discovered yet👀

    • @alexsoft55
      @alexsoft55 Před 2 lety +22

      Is sin(x) odd also in complex field? I always forget XD

    • @VenkataB123
      @VenkataB123 Před 2 lety +33

      @@alexsoft55 Pretty sure yes. Sin and tan are odd and cos is even, even in the complex world

  • @ffggddss
    @ffggddss Před 2 lety +462

    Here's an alternate take for the exponential equation.
    That parabola-like curve is a catenary; and eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2cosh(x); twice the hyperbolic cosine. But from Euler's formula, (circular) cosine can be written
    cos(x) = ½(e ͥˣ + e⁻ ͥˣ) = cosh(ix); likewise, because cos and cosh are even functions,
    cosh(x) = cos(-ix) = cos(ix)
    So eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2cosh(x) = 0, means that
    2cos(ix) = 0 = 2cos(-ix)
    But we know where cosine is 0:
    -ix = (n+½)π ; x = (n+½)iπ
    And that's another way to solve this one.
    Fred
    PS. Great idea, this set of problems!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  Před 2 lety +75

      Thank you!!

    • @punpun7246
      @punpun7246 Před rokem +3

      @@blackpenredpen 😇

    • @MathCuriousity
      @MathCuriousity Před rokem +5

      Hey Fred,
      How did you get from squareroot(x) + squareroot(-x) = 2 to e^x + e^-x = 2 ? Thanks!

    • @MathCuriousity
      @MathCuriousity Před rokem +6

      Fred one more question:
      What math topic should i study to be able to make these connections you made between e and cosine and that other one coshine? I want to be able to learn that topic and answer as you did!

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss Před rokem +13

      @@MathCuriousity Thanks for the questions. I think I can speak for bprp as well as myself, that it's encouraging to hear from those who are genuinely interested in learning. We must all strive for that!
      "How did you get from √x + √-x = 2 to eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2 ?"
      I didn't. The former was Q#1 in the video; the latter is Q#3, which is why I referred to it as "the exponential equation."
      "What math topic should I study ... coshine?"
      -- BTW, it isn't "coshine;" it's cosh, which is short for "hyperbolic cosine."
      I'm not sure what name that topic might go by today, but in my school days, it would be either Algebra 2, Advanced Algebra, Complex Algebra, or Analysis, the last of which nowadays goes by the name, "pre-calculus."

  • @Paul-222
    @Paul-222 Před rokem +67

    For #3, it’s interesting that if you substitute e^i(pi) = -1 too soon or too late, you get stuck with a tautology where x = anything.

    • @Paul-222
      @Paul-222 Před rokem +4

      For #4, you can analyze the series expansions and see that no integer values of n produce any totals that coincide between the two series. The first series is pi times … -1.5, 0.5, 2.5… and the second series is pi times … -0.5, 1.5, 3.5….

    • @farfa2937
      @farfa2937 Před rokem +8

      @@Paul-222 So I solved that using sin(x) = ((e^ix)-(e^-ix))/2i and got 0=4i, then I saw in the other comments that the oddness of sin gives you 0=2 immediately and I felt dumb for overcomplicating so much, but I'm glad to see someone else made it even more complex.

  • @drpeyam
    @drpeyam Před 2 lety +98

    This is unreal 😂

    • @londospark7813
      @londospark7813 Před 2 lety +6

      Pretty complex too in parts!

    • @HershO.
      @HershO. Před 2 lety +5

      Good observation Dr Pun-yam

    • @xevira
      @xevira Před 2 lety +5

      Imagine that.

    • @mokouf3
      @mokouf3 Před 2 lety +1

      Should this video be called unreal tournament?

  • @maxwellcody6457
    @maxwellcody6457 Před 2 lety +150

    It looks like sin(x)+sin(-x) = 2 has no solutions since sin(x) is an odd function, even with using Euler's formula it leads to a contradiction of 0=2.

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Před 2 lety +10

      From what I can tell, Euler's formula is just how to separate the even and odd parts of the exponential as two coordinates, just specialized for the imaginary case, even if there are two other cases which are just as interesting.
      j² = 1: e^jφ = coshφ + jsinhφ (hyperbola)
      ε² = 0: e^εφ = 1 + εφ (flat line)
      i² = -1: e^iφ = cosφ + isinφ (circle)

    • @absence9443
      @absence9443 Před 2 lety +33

      you just apply sin(-x) = -sin(x) and that's it

    • @tobyayres5901
      @tobyayres5901 Před rokem +1

      @@angeldude101 why j as imaginary unit ):

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Před rokem +5

      @@tobyayres5901 You'll need to more precisely define "imaginary" in that question. I said "j² = +1", which is very much not the imaginary unit you're familiar with. This is a _hyperbolic_ number, not a _complex_ number.

    • @thedictator1454
      @thedictator1454 Před rokem

      @@angeldude101 is that hard and when u have to study it
      -a highschool student

  • @TeamBuster
    @TeamBuster Před 8 měsíci +16

    Mathematician: "Infinity is not a number, therefore this equation has no solution"
    Me, a physicist: "I have no such weakness"

    • @kevinvanhorn2193
      @kevinvanhorn2193 Před měsícem

      Mathematicians sometimes use infinity as a number. But they're careful to specify WHICH infinity they're using and how it plays with the finite numbers.

  • @mrgreenskypiano
    @mrgreenskypiano Před 2 lety +123

    This is honestly one of my favorite videos of yours - it’s very clear and concise but still enough content to fill a 10-minute video! All of these sections are different but have the same theme so it still feels like one video - my rating is (pi^2 + 1)/10

    • @jumpman8282
      @jumpman8282 Před 2 lety +9

      On a scale of 1-10 that's a LOW score :(

    • @ajl4878
      @ajl4878 Před 2 lety +7

      If you divide by 10, then yes

    • @jumpman8282
      @jumpman8282 Před 2 lety +13

      @@ajl4878 Ah, I see it now, it's _out of_ 10 lol

    • @ajl4878
      @ajl4878 Před 2 lety +3

      @@jumpman8282 yea lol

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 Před 2 lety +10

      That's 10.86 out of 10 lol

  • @arostheautistic1045
    @arostheautistic1045 Před 2 lety +15

    **gets paper ready for last question**
    **realises sine is a strictly odd function**
    nvm

  • @NoPizahere
    @NoPizahere Před 2 lety +16

    İ can do that! İn the last question, it have no solution. Because if we try to do that, we get 0=2 and that was an issue.

  • @justintroyka8855
    @justintroyka8855 Před 2 lety +11

    If you, like me, are bothered by the fact that the process in part 1 doesn't yield both solutions, then read on. The reason is because a number has two square roots, and complex numbers don't have a preferred one of the two like positive real numbers do - you can't just take the "positive" square root because most complex numbers don't have a purely real, positive square root. More specifically, the problem is in the step √[-x] = i√x. Check this out:
    √[-(-x)] = i√[-x] = i*i*√x = -√x.
    So √x = -√x, which is absurd. The way to resolve this is that √[-x] may be either i√x or -i√x, depending on which square root of a number is being chosen.

    • @MichaelRothwell1
      @MichaelRothwell1 Před rokem

      Please see my solution to the first equation in the comments for clarification on this point.

  • @xavierwainwright8799
    @xavierwainwright8799 Před 2 lety +66

    sin(x)+sin(-x)=2 sin(x)-sin(x)=2 0=2. There are no solutions.

  • @akashsriram1434
    @akashsriram1434 Před rokem +3

    For the e based expression, I used cosine def in terms of e so we get (e^x + e^-x)/2 = 0 = cos (-ix)
    Take the inv cos from both sides to get pi/2 = -ix and solve for x to get -i*pi/2

  • @estebandavidlopezmurillo2420

    Very interesting video, I wish I had a calc 2 professor like you. I had a hard time passing that course. But I still love math, and I enjoy watching your videos!

  • @zactron1997
    @zactron1997 Před rokem +5

    2:45 the second solution can also be found by observing that taking out a factor of i and taking out a factor of -i are both equally valid starting points ((-i)^2 = i^2 = -1). So in reality, you needed to take out a factor of +-i rather than just +i

  • @logicxd1836
    @logicxd1836 Před 2 lety +37

    the last one has no real nor complex solution, because if we use the complex definition of sinx, we have (e^(ix)-e^(-ix))/2i+(e^(-ix)-e^(ix))/2i = 2, then e^(ix) - e^(-ix) + e^(-ix) - e^(ix) = 4i, which LHS cancels out to 0, we have 0 = 4, no solution

    • @meurdesoifphilippe5405
      @meurdesoifphilippe5405 Před 2 lety +6

      Right, only you forgot an i in the definition of sin(x) = (e^ix - e^-ix) /2i

    • @logicxd1836
      @logicxd1836 Před 2 lety +10

      @@meurdesoifphilippe5405 *cough cough* no one saw that

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 Před 2 lety +6

      Or you could use the fact that sin(x) is odd, meaning sin(x) + sin(-x) = 0 for all complex x. No calculation required.

    • @danielglazar6811
      @danielglazar6811 Před rokem

      @@logicxd1836 See what? ;p

  • @antonyzhilin
    @antonyzhilin Před 2 lety +33

    I have no idea where to start with the last problem, it's so odd tbh

  • @IvoCampi1
    @IvoCampi1 Před 2 lety +12

    The solution of e^x + e(-x) = 0 is straightforward if thinking the two terms as two vectors in the complex plane, having the same module. For simmetry, their phases should be pi/2 and -pi/2

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion Před 6 měsíci +1

      .. and so:
      1) Re(x)=Re(-x)
      2) Im(x)=i*pi*(2n+1/2)
      3) Im(-x)=-i*pi*(2m+1/2)
      Where n and m can be any integer.
      Since Re(z)=-Re(z) for any complex z, 1) implies Re(x)=0.
      Since the same goes for the imaginary part of the complex number, i.e Im(-z)=-Im(z), 2) and 3) can be combined to:
      4) Im(x)=i*pi*(2n+1/2)=i*pi*(2m+1/2)
      So n and m needs to be equal, and the final solution is (still): x=0+i(1+4n)pi/2 with n being any integer.

  • @anikbera8675
    @anikbera8675 Před 2 lety +2

    The domain remain same as it is an example of the 2 graphs same ranges too.
    Common domain is: all real numbers.
    Common range is:[-1,1]
    But they are just image of one another if rotated across y axis by 180°.
    This also proves that sin(x) is a odd function.

  • @miscccc
    @miscccc Před 2 lety +6

    Petition to make I dont like to be on the bottom, I like to be on the top merch.

  • @supernakke4858
    @supernakke4858 Před 6 měsíci

    Love looking all these. I'm looking these years later but they are so great videos

  • @justushinkelmann8020
    @justushinkelmann8020 Před 2 lety +3

    Holding the poceball gives him the ultimate mathematical power

  • @isjosh8064
    @isjosh8064 Před 5 měsíci +1

    8:40
    e^x + e^-x = 0
    e^x = -e^-x
    x = ln(-e^-x)
    x = ln(-1) + ln(e^-x)
    x = pi*i+2n*pi + -x
    2x = pi*i + 2n*pi
    x = n*pi + pi/2 * i

  • @AntonFediukov
    @AntonFediukov Před 2 lety +26

    8:45 can you use the Lambert W function if you multiply both sides by x? That yields an extraneous solution x=0 for one of the branches but I was wondering if this method is viable here if you know what you’re doing

    • @1abyrinth
      @1abyrinth Před 2 lety +4

      I was curious about this as well

    • @rshawty
      @rshawty Před 2 lety +27

      ok so multiply both sides by x≠0 :
      xeˣ = -xe⁻ˣ
      now use the lambert W function :
      x = -x ⇒ x = 0
      but we assumed that x cannot be 0.
      Hence it’s not a good thing to use here

    • @farklegriffen2624
      @farklegriffen2624 Před 2 lety +6

      @@rshawty it's fine to use it, just get rid of the x=0 solution because we already clarified that x≠0 for the equation we're trying to solve

    • @rshawty
      @rshawty Před 2 lety +2

      @@farklegriffen2624 ok but you can clearly see that’s useless

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Před rokem +6

      @@rshawty It isn't useless. The Lambert W function does not allow you to conclude that xe^x = -xe^(-x) implies x = -x. It only allows you to conclude that x = W(-xe^(-x)), and you must remember this is multivalued.

  • @anikbera8675
    @anikbera8675 Před 2 lety +1

    The answer you gave ,I understood but x=-2i ,so there must be a conjugate of the complex solution ,
    So it's equtions are:
    x=2i,x=-2i.

  • @erichsu3325
    @erichsu3325 Před rokem +1

    Junior Math: 1+1
    Highschool Math: ax^3+bx^2+xc+d
    University Math: I don't know anymore. - Ho Lee Fuk

  • @angeldude101
    @angeldude101 Před 2 lety +3

    e^x + e^-x = 0
    "It's almost like cosh" It is exactly 2cosh(x). cos(x) = cosh(ix), and we know plenty of places where cos(x) = 0.
    sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2
    Where cosine is the even part of the exponential, sine is the odd part, so sin(-x) = -sin(x). So sin(x) + sin(-x) = sin(x) - sin(x) = (1-1)sin(x) = 0 ≠ 2 for all x. It isn't just never 2, it's never _not 0._

  • @roberttelarket4934
    @roberttelarket4934 Před rokem +1

    Great examples!!!

  • @tnnm2022
    @tnnm2022 Před 3 měsíci

    I love how he was able to cheer me up enough to make me smile in the first 5 minutes

  • @OPNisheeth_Gamerz
    @OPNisheeth_Gamerz Před měsícem +2

    6:21 6:37 But ♾and -♾ are both numbers! They are also solutions

  • @d2513850
    @d2513850 Před 2 lety +5

    7:36 that's a hyperbolic cosine function: 2*cosh(x)

    • @YoavZilka
      @YoavZilka Před 2 lety +2

      He said “it’s almost like a cosh function”, but yeah, it actually IS a cosh function

  • @Imran-Shah
    @Imran-Shah Před rokem

    If you replace the x by z and assume complex solutions, would z = +/-2i be considered valid? I squared both sides, isolated SQRT(-z²) and squared again to find the two candidates

  • @josephtraverso2700
    @josephtraverso2700 Před 2 lety +23

    You make me smile with each video.
    Thank you

  • @prajwalpai7604
    @prajwalpai7604 Před 27 dny +1

    For the first equation we can square both sides twice to get a quadratic equation when we solve it we'll get ±2i directly

  • @luiscrispinvargas3061
    @luiscrispinvargas3061 Před 2 lety +2

    No entiendo nada lo que dice pero sí entiendo todo lo escribe , excelente canal 👌👌 , saludos desde Perú.

  • @EvaFuji
    @EvaFuji Před 2 lety

    Love your videos 🦉

  • @kepler4192
    @kepler4192 Před 2 lety +5

    7:47 you said it yourself it's literally a cosh function, exactly 2cosh(x) 😆

  • @literallyme.realmp4
    @literallyme.realmp4 Před rokem +1

    9:40 I love that so much

  • @andrewgjkgjk
    @andrewgjkgjk Před rokem

    Can you write in text what you are saying when you say "if you ever feel the need to graph the __________" (axis meeting point, red dot) around 1:19? I can't make out what you are saying. Thank you so much for great videos!

  • @567secret
    @567secret Před rokem

    A neat trick with the last one, if we can argue there is no real component to x, it follows x = i*|x| so this just becomes 2cos(|x|) = 0 ie. |x| = (n+1)*pi/2

  • @siddhesh_sinha
    @siddhesh_sinha Před 2 lety

    Hey btw a good idea for a video is the integral from - to + infinity of sechx is π

  • @zacharyrumschlag
    @zacharyrumschlag Před rokem

    I thought I was crazy with the last question! thanks everyone for confirming my suspicions.

  • @user-lj9mf4gu4n
    @user-lj9mf4gu4n Před 2 lety

    after getting e^2x = -1
    I just set x = i(theta) /2
    then original function can change to e^i(theta) = -1, theta = pi + 2npi
    then x = i(pi + 2npi) /2

  • @jamieashworth_
    @jamieashworth_ Před 2 lety +3

    On the first question how do you know which square root of the complex numbers to take, (which is the principal solution)?

    • @MichaelRothwell1
      @MichaelRothwell1 Před rokem

      Please see my solution to the first equation in the comments for clarification on this point.

  • @protoroxsinha2451
    @protoroxsinha2451 Před 2 lety +21

    For the third one we should go for the definition e^ix

    • @HershO.
      @HershO. Před 2 lety

      It's still no sol I think. Correct me if I'm wrong

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Před 2 lety +3

      @@HershO. It's the 4th that has no solution, because (hyperbolic) sine is odd no matter what you through at it. You're basically solving sin(x) - sin(x) = 2. The third one is perfectly fine and it's just saying 2cosh(x) = 2cos(ix) = 0.

    • @HershO.
      @HershO. Před 2 lety +1

      @@angeldude101 oh sorry I thought they were talking about the 4th one

  • @en8042
    @en8042 Před 2 měsíci +1

    1:49, that's when you lose the other solution, sqrt(-1) is i OR -i, so you should get two equations

    • @allozovsky
      @allozovsky Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly. Without that assumption the solution is not complete.

  • @eugen3662
    @eugen3662 Před 7 měsíci

    The last example has actually +- sign because of the symmetry mentioned in the first example

  • @18BaVIII
    @18BaVIII Před rokem +2

    I might be wrong, but I've always thought it wasn't correct to use SQRT and LN with negative numbers, thought there are complet solutions. So is it "correct" to write SQRT(-1)=i and ln(-e)=1+iPi for example? IDK if it's only to avoid confusion, but all math teachers keep using the definition of i as i²=-1, but never SQRT(-1)=i

  • @jimschneider799
    @jimschneider799 Před 2 lety +1

    @7:46 - considering cosh(x) = (e^x + e^(-x))/2, it's exactly like a cosh function.

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Před 2 lety

      I suppose he wasn't completely wrong. It's not _exactly_ cosh(x), but rather 2cosh(x).

  • @Necrozene
    @Necrozene Před 33 minutami

    Nice one!

  • @EmpyreanLightASMR
    @EmpyreanLightASMR Před 5 měsíci

    4:39 How to draw a Cartesian plane properly. Also, how to describe the inside of a black hole.
    f(x) = ln(x) + ln(-x)

  • @JayTemple
    @JayTemple Před 2 lety +9

    When I taught algebra in college, I always checked my solutions to make sure they weren't extraneous. I would like to have seen that here, especially on the second equation.

    • @stratonikisporcia8630
      @stratonikisporcia8630 Před rokem +2

      f(i) = ln(i) + ln(-i)
      f(i) = iπ/2 - iπ/2
      f(i) = 0, therefore i is a solution of f(x) = 0
      Since it's symmetrical, -i is a solution too.

  • @chai5466
    @chai5466 Před 2 lety

    Can you do a series about problem solving involving exponential growth/decay? Thank you!!!
    Problem:
    Rhyz and Zhayn lives in an island-town with population of 2000 people. They came back from vacation to the island but they catch the highly-contagious COVID-19. A week after their return to their town, they infected 6 more people.
    a. How many will be affected after another week (assuming no health protocols have been practiced.)? Their public health center decides to isolate their town once 30% or more of their people are infected.
    b. After how many weeks will the public health center isolate the town?

  • @kailashanand5086
    @kailashanand5086 Před 2 lety

    for the third one, that is e^x + e*(-x) = 0, when we get to the step: 2x = ln(-1), why cant we write it as: 2x = ln(I^2) = 2ln(i), therefore x = ln(i)?
    (idk that much about logs or calculus or anything of that sort, so if I make a mistake please excuse me)

  • @quiladog9302
    @quiladog9302 Před 7 měsíci

    Hey, i’m in algebra1 right now and i have been thinking about testing out of some math classes in the future and siblings/friends have told me that pre calc is just algebra2 a bit more advanced trigonometry and a few more concepts? If i end up doing well in algebra 2 and i feel confident with my algebra skills would it be a good idea to test out of pre calc?
    I have also been wondering if it is a good idea to test out of geometry. I have been studying a lot and I so far have learned about some trig (just basics sin, cos, tan, unit circle etc). I have been averaging roughly 75-90% on some online practice tests.
    I also plan on going for some sort of stem major at a top school (like Caltech). The careers I have thought about so far are astrophysics, or quantum mechanics. I know that is a long ways a way but I think its kinda fun to think about and I hear about people not knowing what to do when they hit 12th grade so it cant hurt.

  • @binaryblade2
    @binaryblade2 Před 2 lety

    for exp(x)+exp(-x), I would have substituted x = iy and then you have a 2cos(y) which obviously has many zeros.

  • @yapsiauwsoengie6507
    @yapsiauwsoengie6507 Před 2 lety

    Would you please talk about this topic?
    As we all know for x approches infinity:
    (1+1/x)^x=e and
    (1-1/x)^x=1/e
    Multiply above equation both side will give us:
    (1-(1/x)^2)^x=1
    ... as if the value of (1/x)^2=0
    Can we then define that when x approches infinity (1/x)^2=0?

  • @nice_mf_ngl
    @nice_mf_ngl Před rokem +1

    im in absolutely no mood for writing down the solution after banging my head on the last problem for an hour, but yeah, so i first did Euler's form, then i didn't simplify the iota terms i.e.- i didn't write e^i³x as e^-ix and proceeded then i wrote the inverses as fractions and took LCM, i substituted e^ix as a, then proceeded, and with some trivial calculations i got my answer as -ln(0)/i i know it was a pretty simple method but I JUST BROKE MATHS !

  • @ysnowyyy-1176
    @ysnowyyy-1176 Před rokem +2

    me watching this as if i understand whats going on😂

  • @flamewings3224
    @flamewings3224 Před 2 lety

    Omg I was so laughing after the end. Dude, you are awesome in humour the same in math xd

  • @Anthony-od2iq
    @Anthony-od2iq Před 3 měsíci

    Wait for that e^x + e^-x question at the end can't you just leave it as e^iπ and take the ln to get 2x = iπ so x can be iπ/2 cuz i am not sure why you added 2πn, i understand basic calculus so i understand how Euler's number works but that 2πn is it really necessary to add ?

  • @ano3900
    @ano3900 Před 2 lety +5

    In the first equation, dont you have to introduce + and - i, when pulling the i^2 from under the root?

    • @moeberry8226
      @moeberry8226 Před 2 lety +3

      No you do not, for example if you simplify sqrt(8)= sqrt(4)*sqrt(2)= 2sqrt(2) not -2sqrt(2). You consider the + or - signs when your solving for the value of x when taking even numbered roots. Keep in mind the + or - signs come from the absolute value of x. |x|=sqrt(x^2)

    • @rorydaulton6858
      @rorydaulton6858 Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, you do. That is why blackpenredpen did not get the solution 2i originally--he left out the + or -.

    • @rorydaulton6858
      @rorydaulton6858 Před 2 lety +5

      @@moeberry8226 That does not work for complex numbers. There is no obvious preferred principal square root, since there is no positive or negative among complex numbers. The standard for "principal square root" is to take the root with positive real part, and if both roots have zero real part then take the one with positive imaginary part.

    • @moeberry8226
      @moeberry8226 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rorydaulton6858 I understand that I was giving ano a very easy example with respect to the reals. So it can be shown more clearly. But 100 percent your right there is no principle square root that’s preferred when in the complex world. But in this case we are not solving or finding a principle root at the part Ano is talking about. We take sqrt(-1) to be just i and at the end as blackpenredpen showed we have symmetry along with the fact of the conjugate root theorem which states if a+bi is a zero then a-bi is also.

    • @ano3900
      @ano3900 Před 2 lety +1

      @@moeberry8226 couldn't i do the following:
      sqrt(-1) = sqrt((-1)(-1)(-1)) = sqrt(i*i*(-1)(-1)) = sqrt((-i)(-i)) = sqrt((-i)^2) = -i
      but since: sqrt(-1) = i
      I have to consider both +/-?

  • @jumpman8282
    @jumpman8282 Před 2 lety +6

    For those who wonder why 𝑒^𝑥 = 0 doesn't have any complex solutions:
    If it did have a complex solution then there would exist two real numbers 𝑎 and 𝑏 such that 𝑒^(𝑎 + 𝑏𝑖) = 0
    But 𝑒^(𝑎 + 𝑏𝑖) = 𝑒^𝑎⋅𝑒^(𝑏𝑖) = 𝑒^𝑎(cos(𝑏) + 𝑖 sin(𝑏)), and there is no real value 𝑎 such that 𝑒^𝑎 = 0
    and also no real value 𝑏 such that cos(𝑏) = sin(𝑏) = 0

    • @schizoframia4874
      @schizoframia4874 Před 2 lety +1

      If it can be written as an infinite polynomial, wouldn’t we get infinitly many sol. I think i see the falicy in my logic but…

    • @alejrandom6592
      @alejrandom6592 Před 2 lety +1

      @@schizoframia4874 that's an interesting question. Like, what happens to the roots of the taylor polynomial as the number of terms approaches infinity

    • @schizoframia4874
      @schizoframia4874 Před 2 lety

      @@alejrandom6592 thanks

    • @MichaelRothwell1
      @MichaelRothwell1 Před rokem

      That eˣ=0 has no solution is equivalent to the well known fact that ln 0 is not defined.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Před rokem +1

      @@schizoframia4874 Calling it an infinite polynomial is inaccurate. CZcamsrs often say it is an infinite polynomial for the sake of analogy, but the problem with analogies is that they are imperfect and flawed and not an accurate description of what is happening. They are there to aid your intuition, not to give you an accurate understanding.

  • @TheDannyjoblack
    @TheDannyjoblack Před 2 lety

    Hey blackpenredpen! I am a huge fan, will do explain this problem for me please?
    When is the product of X1 and X2 maximum given that the function is f(x)=(X-X1)(X-X2) (derivative is not allowed but I'd like you to do it as if it is at first). I have a divine understanding of parabolas and I only got closer to the answer but never actually got it. I'd appreciate it you would explain that for me, thank you.

  • @vishftw
    @vishftw Před rokem

    you and rednilebluenile are best two people. both make videos of my fav subject

  • @thescratchguy428
    @thescratchguy428 Před rokem +2

    Answers (in Cartesian form):
    1. x = -2i, x = 2i
    2. x = -i, x = i
    3. x = 1/2 i (2 π n + π), n element Z
    4. False

  • @holaqaseesta4241
    @holaqaseesta4241 Před 13 dny

    Isnt last one sin(π/2+2πk) which always will give one and sin(-3π/2+2πk) which will also end on the positive side of the circumference as its going to the negatives and then the postives? Reasoning like that it would be 1+1 =2

  • @dock_ed5720
    @dock_ed5720 Před rokem

    For the equation e^x = -e^-x could you not just multiply both sides by x giving you xe^x = -xe^-x then take the Lambert W function: W(xe^x) = W(-xe^-x) giving you x = -x therefore x = 0 ?

  • @toirmusic
    @toirmusic Před 2 lety +2

    i immediately noticed e^x + e^(-x) is just 2cosh(x)

  • @joemcz2564
    @joemcz2564 Před rokem

    I was feeling really smug about solving these mentally, but had to break out the whiteboard for the last one. I was getting quite frustrated until I decided to accept what I thought were failures as proof that it's impossible.

  • @garimamehta1604
    @garimamehta1604 Před 2 lety +1

    sir what is the integration of 1/(sinx+cosx)

  • @maxvangulik1988
    @maxvangulik1988 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Last one is always 0 regardless of x. Sin is an odd function so you can move the - to the outside. The sin(x) terms then cancel, leaving the equation 0=2. Therefore, sin(x)+sin(-x)=2 has no solutions at all.

  • @koenth2359
    @koenth2359 Před rokem

    In the very end he proves that he is a true math teacher!

  • @Voxel79
    @Voxel79 Před 2 lety +2

    sin(x)+sin(-x)=sin(x)-sin(x)=0 so 0=2
    simple cheat:
    e^x+e^-x=0 divide both sides by 2 and know that cos(x)=(e^xi+e^-xi)/2
    so cos(x)i=0
    i have also made math problem witch i think is hard:
    proof that:
    2ln((2cos(ln(i))+sqrt(2cos(ln(-1))-2))/2)=pi

  • @Firedragon9898
    @Firedragon9898 Před rokem

    Somebody knows where you can buy the framed e from the background?

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 Před 2 lety

    We can use the fact that sine is odd and we have 0=2 so we will get contradiction - no solution in both real and complex

  • @rageprod
    @rageprod Před rokem +2

    On the surface,
    sin(-x) = -sinx, therefore
    sinx + sin(-x) = sinx - sinx = 0
    therefore sinx + sin(-x) != 2 for all x in R
    QED
    But I know nothing about the complex sine function, so I'll leave to the smartheads to figure it out 🤓
    If sine retains it's oddness as a complex function, I guess there's no complex solutions either.
    Edit: Actually, I just checked and the Taylor expansion of the sine function has only odd degree terms, so yeah, it retains it's oddness. So no solutions at all! Postscripty QED.

  • @siddhantchaudhary5712
    @siddhantchaudhary5712 Před 2 lety

    What were your subject combination in bachelor

  • @ptubevfx1331
    @ptubevfx1331 Před rokem

    For the last one after writing e^x = -e^-x , multiple by x on both sides and take lambert w on both sides you get x=-x => x = 0 . But 0 isnt the answer so where does this go wrong cuz I feel like the steps seem legit

  • @umami0247
    @umami0247 Před 2 lety

    Wish I was better at math period I find these so interesting even though I really have no idea what is happening. I guess it amazes me how many times the answer is either 0 or 1. Who’d a thunk.

  • @christiangomez6901
    @christiangomez6901 Před 6 měsíci

    For the first one, I think you forgot to put the absolut value of x, after doing (√x)². From that point, you'd get both 2i and -2i values of x, instead of having to analyze it from its beggining to find the other one.

  • @andrewkarsten5268
    @andrewkarsten5268 Před rokem +1

    When you consider the complex definition for sine, sin(x)=[e^(ix)-e^(-ix)]/2i, then it’s clear when you plug in sin(-x) that sin(-x)=-sin(x) ∀x∈ℂ, therefor sin(x)+sin(-x)=0≠2 ∀x∈ℂ

  • @floppy8568
    @floppy8568 Před rokem

    7:46 In fact, double the cosh function!

  • @vijaykulhari_IITB
    @vijaykulhari_IITB Před 2 lety

    Good bro👍🤘

  • @alexandreman8601
    @alexandreman8601 Před rokem +2

    For the first one, sqrt(x) + sqrt(-x) = 2, how can you find 2 with the solutions?
    Like, if you take 2i, you get:
    sqrt(2i) + sqrt(-2i)
    sqrt(2i) + i×sqrt(2i)
    (1+i) × sqrt(2i)
    And then I'm stuck, and the same with -2i. How do I get 2 from that?

    • @dieschachbrettfee2060
      @dieschachbrettfee2060 Před rokem

      sqrt(2i) is either 1+i or -1-i since (1+i)^2 =1^2+2i+i^2 =2i
      while sqrt(-2i) is either 1-i or -1+i
      If you define sqrt(2i)=1+i and sqrt(-2i)=1-i the equation works but I think those different square roots can cause problems in other equations.

  • @lilisecretworld
    @lilisecretworld Před 18 dny

    A doubt. Why e^ipi+2npi? When without the 2npi the answer would be ipi/2?

  • @bobgold4692
    @bobgold4692 Před rokem

    Clever but sort of misdirection on ex.1 converted two separate equations into one simultaneous equation. Different animals
    😊

  • @ejb7969
    @ejb7969 Před rokem

    At 1:17, what are we going to get?
    It sounds like "the woodshed" or "the wart's head",
    I can't tell what word it is.
    I love that he concludes the entire function is just a point.

  • @mcgrewgs
    @mcgrewgs Před 2 lety +9

    For the first equation, noticing the symmetry is the more elegant way to find the second solution, but you could also just pull a -i out of sqrt(-x), since (-i)^2=-1 as well, and then solve sqrt(x)-i*sqrt(x)=2.

    • @mytic6361
      @mytic6361 Před 2 lety +2

      Or, if a complex number is a root of a polynomial, then its conjugate is a root too

  • @user-sg8my2nm3r
    @user-sg8my2nm3r Před rokem

    lets consider the essence of sin(x)=-sin(-x), expand sin x as its taylor series, thus we can see sin(x)=-sin(-x) if (-x)^k=-(x)^k and k is odd. but i think quaterions dont obey rule since they break distributive law. so the answer might be a quaterion

  • @asparkdeity8717
    @asparkdeity8717 Před rokem +1

    for all inputs, real and complex, sin(z) = -sin(-z) sin(z) + sin(-z) = 0 identically for all complex inputs. Hence the last equation has no solution at all over the reals or the complex numbers

    • @MathCuriousity
      @MathCuriousity Před rokem +1

      I understand why there are no reals, as x can never equal -x logic. But why is there no complex?

    • @asparkdeity8717
      @asparkdeity8717 Před rokem +1

      @@MathCuriousity the reason is, sin(z) is entirely analytic over the complex plane, hence we don’t need to deal with any problems such as branches - and hence still maintains the odd property (u can even see this using a Taylor Expansion in z, which has infinite radius of convergence) for all z in the complex plane. Hence for the exactly the same reason as no real solutions x, there are no complex solutions z either

  • @procerpat9223
    @procerpat9223 Před 2 lety

    as always GREAT JOB 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @baukenieuwenhuis6470
    @baukenieuwenhuis6470 Před 2 lety +1

    I have the best solution for the third one:
    e^x + e^-x = e^-i i x + e^i i x = 0
    this is already one of eulers identities but ill write it out anyway:
    cos(-ix) + i sin (-ix) + cos(ix) + i sin(ix) = 2 cos(ix)=0
    cos(ix)=0
    ix = pi/2 + n pi
    x=-i (pi/2+n pi)

    • @nG27227
      @nG27227 Před 2 lety

      Alternatively, just use cosh identities: e^(x) + e^(-x) = 2cosh(x) = 2cos(ix). But this is a nice way to derive the same thing with more fundamental identities, without needing cosh.

    • @baukenieuwenhuis6470
      @baukenieuwenhuis6470 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nG27227 I didnt know that identity but pretty interesting :)

  • @isl_milano9488
    @isl_milano9488 Před 3 měsíci

    I encourage you to continue, and I hope you solve it this limite: lim_(x->0) ((x^π - π^x)/(x^e - e^x))^(1/sin(x))

  • @dwagonyt
    @dwagonyt Před 9 měsíci +1

    Here's another way for number 2, when we get to ln(-x^2) = 0, can't we do ln(-1) + ln(x^2) = 0, and ln(-1) is i*pi because of e^(i*pi) so in other words i*pi + ln(x^2) = 0; ln(x^2) = -i*pi; x^2 = e^(-i*pi) = (e^(i*pi))^(-1) = (-1)^(-1) = 1/(-1) = -1; so therefore x = +-sqrt(-1), aka +-i

  • @masterleon40
    @masterleon40 Před měsícem

    "if you ever feel like the need to graph the origin, go ahead and just use this function"

  • @kenhuang2486
    @kenhuang2486 Před 2 lety

    I know how to find the complex solutions. But what confuses/fascinates me is, what's the point of those solutions?

  • @steluhututui5502
    @steluhututui5502 Před rokem

    Square root of X raised to the power of 2 is module of X so that's why you get ±2i.

  • @leolesnjakovic8725
    @leolesnjakovic8725 Před 2 lety

    VERY INFORMATION VIDEO!!! TANK YU!! (soryr for bad egluish)

  • @twelfthdoc
    @twelfthdoc Před rokem

    Using the evenness of the sine function, sin(-x) is the same as -sin(x).
    The equation sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 becomes: sin(x) - sin(x) = 2 => 0 = 2 [->