A Proof That The Square Root of Two Is Irrational

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  • @DrizzletGaming
    @DrizzletGaming Před 5 lety +6455

    Michael: Or is it
    2 million people: *Literaly creaming themselves*

  • @kekero540
    @kekero540 Před 4 lety +3578

    Rational
    Ratio
    I have never realized this and now am freaking out.

    • @muggtor
      @muggtor Před 4 lety +122

      you made me think of other words, and rations, and now im dying

    • @mariafe7050
      @mariafe7050 Před 4 lety +45

      What about irratio?

    • @mariafe7050
      @mariafe7050 Před 4 lety +53

      An irrational number divided by an irrational number.
      π/e

    • @unemilifleur
      @unemilifleur Před 4 lety +29

      Never realized that either... I’m French, irrational numbers are called irrationnel, but ratios are called fraction......

    • @Brunoenribeiro
      @Brunoenribeiro Před 4 lety +3

      you're not alone on this

  • @Brunoenribeiro
    @Brunoenribeiro Před rokem +1468

    Proof by contradition is like kryptonite for infinity-related questions, isn't it

    • @unconscious5630
      @unconscious5630 Před rokem +85

      I mean, proof by induction is more so suited for infinity questions

    • @joeman1063
      @joeman1063 Před rokem +9

      @@unconscious5630 what’s proof by induction? I just started discrete math and I don’t think I’ve learned that one yet

    • @linuslauterbach2975
      @linuslauterbach2975 Před rokem +97

      @@joeman1063 It's basically the domino effect as a method of proof: If you want to show that a statement that somehow depends on a natural number n is true for all natural numbers n, it's sufficient to first show that it is true for n=1 and then show that your statement being true for some n implies it being true for n+1. In other words: you show that the first domino piece falls, and then you show that if some domino falls, the next one will fall as well. Therefore all domino pieces fall and your statement is proven for all n. One typical example for proof by induction is the proof of the closed formula for summing the first n natural numbers provided by little Gauss. Generally a lot of statements involving finite sums lend themselves to proof by induction, for example if you want to show that laws like distributivity hold in general for a finite numbers of addends.

    • @gauravyadav-bg1bz
      @gauravyadav-bg1bz Před rokem +4

      Contradiction and Induction method are both same logically. Here your n is a/b , so it holds for any a/b and also a/b + 1 . So by induction this contradiction holds for any a and b ratio.

    • @gauravyadav-bg1bz
      @gauravyadav-bg1bz Před rokem +2

      Interesting thing is that,..can we prove existence of God with this method???

  • @ryane5281
    @ryane5281 Před rokem +495

    I was taught this proof in school yet was somehow still entertained enough to watch the whole video. There is my proof that Michael is an incredible host.

    • @shamrithponlingam1656
      @shamrithponlingam1656 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Same

    • @Gohas09
      @Gohas09 Před 5 měsíci +1

      same

    • @perseusgaming365
      @perseusgaming365 Před měsícem

      same

    • @RockBrentwood
      @RockBrentwood Před 19 dny +1

      The proof is like Star-Wars-once-you-see-The-Lord-Of-The-Rings. It's something that looked like "greatness" until you saw what *true* (Academy-Award-Winning) greatness actually looks like, and then you can never go back. Let's do it here now.
      (1) The Fundamental Theorem Of Arithmetic applies to fractions, too, not just to integers. Every positive rational number has a *unique* factoring into a product of *integer* powers of primes.
      (2) If q is rational, n is a positive integer, and qⁿ is an integer, then the prime factors of qⁿ all have *non-negative* multiples of n as their exponents. Therefore, the prime factors of q all have non-negative exponents. Therefore q is integer.
      (3) Therefore, no n-root of any integer z > 0 is rational, unless it's an integer and z = qⁿ is the n-power of an integer.
      (4) For square roots, that means √z is irrational, unless z = 1, 4, 9, 16, ... for cube roots ∛z is irrational, unless z = 1, 8, 27, 64, ... (or z = -1, -8, -27, -64, ... if you expand this to negative values) and so on.

  • @Rio-cs6nx
    @Rio-cs6nx Před 3 lety +6666

    Alternative title: Michael having fun doing his hobby.

  • @wima6687
    @wima6687 Před 5 lety +3156

    16:05 the music synchs perfectly with the sound of the pencil drawing on the paper
    this is extremely satisfying

  • @dylanwakefield7466
    @dylanwakefield7466 Před rokem +63

    Literally had this as a proof by contradiction question in a maths test and wanted to curl up in a ball

  • @NaraASMR
    @NaraASMR Před rokem +43

    i really love it when these math videos give me a slight shift in perspective about something that is incredibly common/natural to me-, like, reducing fractions
    i know in my head that 4/6 is equal to 2/3, easy, and i know that 4/6 can be reduced into 2/3 without changing its value. if you were to ask me _why_ the value doesn't change, my answer would be something like "because the ratio in relation to the numbers stayed consistent, the proportions of 4 to 6 are equal to the proportions of 2 to 3."
    but here-, michael just gives the simple answer of "since both 4 and 6 can be divided by 2, we can divide this fraction by the fraction 2/2. and since 2/2 is equal to one, this is equivalent to dividing by one, which will not change the value of our number."
    like-, "huh, that *_is_* true-, it is just like dividing by 1, never thought of it like that"
    it makes absolute sense and shows a different way to describe the same thing-, it's so cool to me.

    • @yellingintothewind
      @yellingintothewind Před 8 měsíci

      Your approach is essentially the geometric proof. Suppose you have two similar right triangles, one with legs of 4 and 6, the other with legs of 2 and 3. For them to be similar, the angles must match, which means the tangent of the angles must match. Since tangent is opposite over adjacent, which is 4/6 for one and 2/3 for the other, those fractions must be the same value.

  • @invaderaid7216
    @invaderaid7216 Před 2 lety +4336

    Michael would be an incredible teacher. Not even just for Maths, he seems to absolutely love learning and teaching

    • @marialawal7449
      @marialawal7449 Před 2 lety +44

      Downside is I dont think teachers get to choose what subject to teach, youtube gives him more freedom and we all get access

    • @ichthyostegaxd3727
      @ichthyostegaxd3727 Před 2 lety +105

      @@marialawal7449 they do lol why would they teach a subject they're bad at

    • @dvision4203
      @dvision4203 Před 2 lety +13

      Is he not already a teacher?

    • @rexon112
      @rexon112 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ichthyostegaxd3727 They're ✨forced✨, didn't you know?

    • @ichthyostegaxd3727
      @ichthyostegaxd3727 Před 2 lety +3

      @@rexon112 In which country?

  • @NesrocksGamingVideos
    @NesrocksGamingVideos Před 4 lety +8940

    The way you write "8" gives me nightmares.
    edit 2 years later: You're free to draw the 8 any way you want, it's on me to not have the nightmares ^^ Also... please buy my indie game? I'm poor. Super Hiking League DX. Thank you.

  • @arihant...457
    @arihant...457 Před 4 měsíci +55

    Me in Xth class waiting for the statement " To the contrary, lets assume that √2 is rational. "😂😂

    • @samiatar686
      @samiatar686 Před měsícem +6

      and to end with "this contradiction has arisen because of our wrong assumption that √2 is rational " 😂😂

    • @AbhishekKumar-ql4nq
      @AbhishekKumar-ql4nq Před 19 dny +1

      fr 😂 😂

    • @madhurmishracss
      @madhurmishracss Před 18 dny +1

      Indians joined the chat...

    • @samiatar686
      @samiatar686 Před 17 dny

      @@madhurmishracss im afghan

  • @williamwolfe9335
    @williamwolfe9335 Před rokem +1

    This was the first video I've seen on this channel, and I thought that was phenomenal! My favorite math class in college was number theory. I love this kind of stuff. Subscribed.

  • @natesullivan6086
    @natesullivan6086 Před 4 lety +739

    Doctor: What would you like to name your child?
    Michael: I think i'll call it "c".

  • @mahejabeenfatima2128
    @mahejabeenfatima2128 Před 4 měsíci +60

    As a former Indian 10th class student, I can confirm that our 1st chapter REAL NUMBERS is all about this video. All concepts very well explained.

    • @wowlittlesam3973
      @wowlittlesam3973 Před 2 měsíci +2

      yea me too but in our ch it i profed by saying that the result is co prime i was quite intrested to know how actually we condisedered the a=2c part .... never knew it was about even no

    • @_tarun_
      @_tarun_ Před měsícem +2

      true

    • @user-pz9wh4md4o
      @user-pz9wh4md4o Před měsícem

      yeah bro

  • @netslamders6803
    @netslamders6803 Před rokem +2

    I remember watching this a couple years ago and not understanding a single thing. It feels good watching it today and understanding everything

  • @ChrisLuigiTails
    @ChrisLuigiTails Před 4 lety +912

    "Negative... thirteen **exhales in disappointment** is odd"

    • @koushioni
      @koushioni Před 4 lety +30

      -13 = -12 + 1 ¿
      *Disappointed*

    • @augdawg6170
      @augdawg6170 Před 4 lety +39

      @@koushioni YOU MEAN NEGATIVE 14!!!

    • @captcalvin2293
      @captcalvin2293 Před 4 lety +39

      @@augdawg6170 -13 = 2 x -7 + 1 ¿
      *Disappointed*
      Fixed

    • @Supertoddy96
      @Supertoddy96 Před 4 lety +2

      Saw this as it was happening lol

    • @scritch8833
      @scritch8833 Před 3 lety +8

      @@koushioni that would be -11

  • @ThorHC11
    @ThorHC11 Před 4 lety +957

    Everybody gangsta til Michael hits us with that "OR IS IT?"

    • @nabranestwistypuzzler7019
      @nabranestwistypuzzler7019 Před 4 lety +1

      Thor Christensen xdxdxd

    • @yvngdoja
      @yvngdoja Před 3 lety +1

      What im i doin here 😢

    • @generichomosapien4666
      @generichomosapien4666 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes michael, numbers are lines used by evolved hairy apes to count things, question answered now end the video- “But are we evolved apes? And are numbers really just meaningless lines? First we need to define ape, but what does define mean? First we need to define define so we know how to define apes.”

    • @shinygreninja4650
      @shinygreninja4650 Před 3 lety +1

      @@generichomosapien4666 but we need to know what is define before defining define. So we end up in a loop.
      I dont know how to end this, I'm confused, choose one of the two below
      1. But what is a loop? *VSauce music plays*
      2. OR DO WE?

    • @unkn0vvnmystery
      @unkn0vvnmystery Před 3 lety

      or are they?

  • @catmoon95
    @catmoon95 Před 8 měsíci +4

    That's why I love maths. I think it's really interesting how you play with numbers to solve/prove things.

  • @hYro_Z
    @hYro_Z Před rokem

    Okay, this is the best CZcams Video I've ever seen. It's so simple, yet so beautiful and inspiring and I think this is, what makes it so good

  • @michaelhudson4192
    @michaelhudson4192 Před 5 lety +5748

    *watches this instead of studying for math test*

    • @GuitarGuruGaming
      @GuitarGuruGaming Před 5 lety +116

      same unfortunately, normal algebra is way more fun than linear algebra

    • @garrett1644
      @garrett1644 Před 5 lety +58

      Same, pre-calc test tomorrow

    • @GuitarGuruGaming
      @GuitarGuruGaming Před 5 lety +42

      good luck, I bombed mine, hopefully you don't suffer the same fate

    • @mohammadsharqawi691
      @mohammadsharqawi691 Před 5 lety +16

      I just watched it after calculas II EXAM, this looks silly but reasonable🤔

    • @scptime1188
      @scptime1188 Před 5 lety +25

      I think you're mistaken... u don't need to study if you're watching VSauce

  • @robinsonkaspar3395
    @robinsonkaspar3395 Před 4 lety +7130

    The ancient Pythagoreans would have literally killed you for this act of heresy. They really did not like even the idea of irrational numbers. They drowned the man who suggested that pi might not be some divine ratio like 22/7.

    • @nabranestwistypuzzler7019
      @nabranestwistypuzzler7019 Před 4 lety +334

      Robinson Kaspar oh yeah like wtaf was wrong with people in maths and sciences back then?

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 Před 4 lety +891

      @@nabranestwistypuzzler7019 the pythagoreans were more of a cult that thought rational math was the explanation to everything than what would be considered a modern style group dedicated to math or science.

    • @nabranestwistypuzzler7019
      @nabranestwistypuzzler7019 Před 4 lety +38

      Gareth Baus Oh wow

    • @user-vv1do1wg1j
      @user-vv1do1wg1j Před 4 lety +519

      @@garethbaus5471 a math cult, awesome

    • @squibble311
      @squibble311 Před 4 lety +172

      the guy that made this proof was pithagorean. he was killed/banished

  • @elisabellesi
    @elisabellesi Před rokem +27

    I know it may seem weird but I have to really thank you bur specifically this video, this honestly helped me getting actually better at math because the first time I watched it it reminded me the deep connection between every mathematical concept and how important are the basics concepts.
    Today I'm litterally one of the best people in math in my class and I think that this video totally did it part in this, so thank you.

  • @maximofernandez196
    @maximofernandez196 Před rokem +1

    This is for me the best video to introduce maths to literally everyone.

  • @krukowstudios3686
    @krukowstudios3686 Před 4 lety +9416

    Let's prove that the square root of 2 is irrational...
    BUT FIRST! What is a number?

  • @ThePlatypusAvenger
    @ThePlatypusAvenger Před 4 lety +939

    When he wrote the decimal number 0.8 and said YIKES i felt that

    • @lucabrandalesi6743
      @lucabrandalesi6743 Před 4 lety +24

      My linear algebra professor literally talks about matrices like they are sentients beings. Math teachers are kinda weird

    • @TheAustronaut03
      @TheAustronaut03 Před 4 lety +11

      yyyyyyOWza

    • @cosmiro1160
      @cosmiro1160 Před 4 lety +5

      0:13

    • @leon_krk
      @leon_krk Před 4 lety +5

      Then proceeds to dissociate from space time

    • @TheNuclearBolton
      @TheNuclearBolton Před 4 lety

      I wish I was on that kinda high

  • @Tomkat53
    @Tomkat53 Před rokem +14

    Damn these videos are so compelling to watch. Michael's enthusiasm and simple explanations are captivating.

  • @franciscoramos7391
    @franciscoramos7391 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I can't believe I watched the whole video. This was surprisingly very entertaining. I wish my math teachers had been like him

  • @MegaSuperCritic
    @MegaSuperCritic Před 3 lety +10495

    How come I’ve never been told “rational” just means “able to be expressed as a ratio”?
    *I invite you to join the 200+ commenters in advising that I didn't pay attention in school or that ratio is in the word. Please, showcase your originality for us all to see.

    • @jkgan4952
      @jkgan4952 Před 3 lety +178

      Sameee

    • @danieldavid3766
      @danieldavid3766 Před 3 lety +964

      You haven't been told that? I pity your school.

    • @lucasroach7835
      @lucasroach7835 Před 3 lety +1234

      @@danieldavid3766 There's many of us who haven't been told that... esp. if you're not in an english speaking country and rational is a word but ratio isn't

    • @That_Awesome_Guy1
      @That_Awesome_Guy1 Před 3 lety +339

      @@lucasroach7835 Just add a word meaning ratio to your language. There, problem solved.

    • @liamreitsma5312
      @liamreitsma5312 Před 3 lety +768

      @@That_Awesome_Guy1 who are you so wise in the ways of science

  • @Deltexterity
    @Deltexterity Před 5 lety +341

    2:32 when u are not sure of ur answer on a math test

    • @daslynnter9841
      @daslynnter9841 Před 5 lety +14

      14:25 when you are not sure of an answer in an open book math quiz

    • @sethdavis6198
      @sethdavis6198 Před 5 lety

      So good😂

    • @undyneultra8958
      @undyneultra8958 Před 5 lety

      i had a math test in my school today

    • @emmanuelpil
      @emmanuelpil Před 5 lety

      If √2 can't be the exponential of 2 can't be either.

    • @koulatko1171
      @koulatko1171 Před 5 lety

      Exactly.
      I also love how the thing continues all the way to 2:51

  • @CombatRust
    @CombatRust Před rokem +1

    always fun to rewatch these videos years later now i know more about mathematics and statistics and so on

  • @Alec0124
    @Alec0124 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Thanks for saying zero is an even number. This makes me happy

  • @williewanker1187
    @williewanker1187 Před 3 lety +1144

    'Unless our teachers have been lying to us our entire lives'
    "YoU wOn'T aLwAyS hAvE A cAlCuLaToR wItH yOu"

    • @mohiburrahman8331
      @mohiburrahman8331 Před 3 lety +21

      Here most of the job related exams don't allow calculator imoooo 😭😭😭😭

    • @dewut420
      @dewut420 Před 3 lety +4

      @@mohiburrahman8331 Practice maketh perfect

    • @mailbox3982
      @mailbox3982 Před 3 lety +49

      Oh yeah one of my teachers told me that so i carried a calculator in my pocket for five solid months straight. The teacher was not amused.

    • @martingouws3876
      @martingouws3876 Před 3 lety +20

      You carry a library containing more books than the one in Alexandria, and a calculator and a supercomputer in your pocket. Try going back in time to tell your teachers that😅
      Oh wait, we don't carry a time machine in our pockets, YET

    • @Owen_loves_Butters
      @Owen_loves_Butters Před 3 lety +4

      Well to be fair they didn’t lie, they just didn’t know

  • @anhhuynhkimnguyen6793
    @anhhuynhkimnguyen6793 Před 5 lety +963

    He protecc
    He attacc
    But most importantly,
    He bacc

  • @saam7737
    @saam7737 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! This gave me flashbacks to when i was first learning how to do a basic proof. I just know younger me would have just kept going back and forth proving the various variables were even and completely missing what i was even supposed to be doing.

  • @juliettevoisinet2512
    @juliettevoisinet2512 Před rokem

    Memories; Your video was fun to visit. It brought back my intro to my mathematics studies. Your presentation was well done. Thank You.

  • @keelanbrown7747
    @keelanbrown7747 Před 3 lety +1292

    Did anybody notice at 00:13 he distorted himself when he said yikes lol

    • @theogarcez1999
      @theogarcez1999 Před 3 lety +22

      LOL

    • @Marispider
      @Marispider Před 3 lety +97

      *"y i ḱ e̳͠ s҉ s̤̩̜̬̝͍͞ s̴̨̢̠̳̹̖͎̺ s҉̶̹̜̟̖̬̘̬̦͓̪̺̙ͅ ş̸̴҉̭͓̰̫͎͚ s̵̞̬̳͍̥͙̪͔̎͒̓ͧ͠ͅ s̢̞̥͓̗̩̠̙̩͇̥̰͕̬̟̃̐ͪ͛͗̚͠"*

    • @javeinne
      @javeinne Před 3 lety +8

      yup

    • @andyb3773
      @andyb3773 Před 3 lety +8

      I did not lmao

    • @burcburc865
      @burcburc865 Před 3 lety +21

      I though it's just my eyes so I didn't replay that part until now. lmao

  • @YaDingus
    @YaDingus Před 3 lety +592

    I wish someone would look at me the way Michael looks at the number 8.

  • @noodlespoo
    @noodlespoo Před 7 měsíci +4

    Some men love money.
    Some love the smell of napalm in the morning.
    But the truly scary ones love reduced fractions.

  • @sabinrawr
    @sabinrawr Před rokem +1

    My favorite moment is when Michael finishes the proof. We all knew where this was going. Michael certainly knew where this was going. But that moment facial catharsis after drawing those final two underlines at 16:39 is the pure feeling of discover, understanding, and enlightenment.

    • @stratonikisporcia8630
      @stratonikisporcia8630 Před rokem +1

      I mean Aristotle knew where this was going, and for reminder he didn't even know that the Earth was spinning around the Sun

  • @brennangleason5974
    @brennangleason5974 Před 5 lety +1884

    *Y O W Z A S*

  • @Cyranek
    @Cyranek Před 5 lety +8119

    having ptsd flashbacks of doing proofs for exams

    • @cjaune909
      @cjaune909 Před 5 lety +11

      Haii

    • @ZoraLink4
      @ZoraLink4 Před 5 lety +28

      Music man make more music.

    • @majortom4543
      @majortom4543 Před 5 lety +44

      No, i was watching like 6 minutes of the video and then realized i was thinking about other things while listening michael speaking something faint in the background. But i was still watching the video. It feels amazing but its so sad that i zone off and moom fail

    • @drsuqi
      @drsuqi Před 5 lety +6

      I'm currently doing that

    • @TheGerm24
      @TheGerm24 Před 5 lety +19

      Yep, I felt like I was back in college math classes. I remember doing the even/odd proofs.

  • @rigorodolico2312
    @rigorodolico2312 Před 6 měsíci

    You learn this in undergraduate linear algebra. It was very useful for me to have seen this video years before we covered this topic, as it really made it easy to get into.

  • @deepatewari4822
    @deepatewari4822 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Probably one of the best math teacher I have ever seen. And arguably the best on CZcams.Just Superb

  • @just-a-silly-goofy-guy
    @just-a-silly-goofy-guy Před 5 lety +7448

    Irrational? Like Michael’s decision to not upload on the main channel ever?

    • @NicoFye
      @NicoFye Před 5 lety +21

      Ahaha

    • @danebradbury5940
      @danebradbury5940 Před 5 lety +406

      He spends months on making the main channels vids so they are as detailed as possible but on dong he can make quick vids also he definetly makes less money making those than other things he could be doing.

    • @danebradbury5940
      @danebradbury5940 Před 5 lety +53

      He has said why before

    • @kartonbaba
      @kartonbaba Před 5 lety +191

      even if he uploaded a video of a compilation of his "hi vsauce, michael here", i would watch it

    • @jacquesburger4103
      @jacquesburger4103 Před 5 lety +18

      This is too damn true... The extro said Vsause tho so idk

  • @hayden3865
    @hayden3865 Před 5 lety +722

    He draws "8" like I'm back in primary school

    • @hardscope8529
      @hardscope8529 Před 4 lety +5

      Yaaa thought the same.. xD

    • @st4ndby
      @st4ndby Před 4 lety +13

      That irritated me so much 😄

    • @steelforge8577
      @steelforge8577 Před 4 lety +8

      @@williammay451 Or did you?

    • @keemo4647
      @keemo4647 Před 4 lety +2

      @@steelforge8577 I mean what is writing
      (vsause music starts)

  • @yamasama1
    @yamasama1 Před rokem +2

    Beautiful! Understood more than ever in classes, in school!

  • @-GamesNGames-
    @-GamesNGames- Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is literally 8th-9th grade exact maths, he is teaching in such a way that its part of our dopamine dose. Amazing

  • @wow-wk4ww
    @wow-wk4ww Před 3 lety +1284

    The way he subtly integrates easy to understand definitions for complex and simple math at the same time is incredible and would make it very easy for children to learn if teachers did math like this.

    • @scellyyt
      @scellyyt Před rokem +5

      sad life

    • @skrimish7145
      @skrimish7145 Před rokem +11

      the difference is teachers teach multiple children all at once. Here michael is almost talking to you one on one and i dont think teachers get paied enough to have a full conversation w/ all their kids about the subject.

    • @Azmyuth
      @Azmyuth Před rokem +7

      @@skrimish7145 except he's not asking you questions or anything that is impossible to do with multiple people, the teacher could write all this on a board (or paint if they're online), and then ask questions after to verify.

    • @henry497
      @henry497 Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@skrimish7145 a youtube video is quite literally the polar opposite of a one on one conversation. This video could be a conversation with everyone in the world at the same time.

    • @Lemony123
      @Lemony123 Před 7 měsíci

      @@henry497 I mean, A teacher cannot check all student at the same time.

  • @pearlphosphophyllite995
    @pearlphosphophyllite995 Před 4 lety +281

    Binomial Multiplication: *appears*
    Me: So we meet again...

    • @squibble311
      @squibble311 Před 4 lety +18

      how did u americans not learn that (x+y)² = x²+2xy+y²

    • @pearlphosphophyllite995
      @pearlphosphophyllite995 Před 4 lety +9

      @@squibble311 No, I am not American, and yes, I did learn that.

    • @sanyalox01
      @sanyalox01 Před 4 lety +3

      Meanwhile i know that (x+y)^5=x^5+(x^4)(5y)+10(x^3)(y^2)+10(x^2)(y^3)+(5x)(y^4)+y^5

    • @jacksonbrewer2380
      @jacksonbrewer2380 Před 3 lety +2

      sini harshan we did learn it. It’s not hard

    • @padmanabanraghavendran3570
      @padmanabanraghavendran3570 Před 3 lety

      @@jacksonbrewer2380 idk about western education (i heard it is slow) but asians learn basic algebra at 5th or 6th grade

  • @tanishnair1526
    @tanishnair1526 Před rokem

    man i needed that proof for my sophomore exams but did not expect vsauce to have a video on it

  • @W1ndTurbine
    @W1ndTurbine Před rokem

    This is pretty cool. I'm currently in an introductory abstract math course and I'm learning almost exactly these things.

  • @monkeybusiness673
    @monkeybusiness673 Před 5 lety +93

    I have seen this proof maybe 50 times now, but no one gets as hyped as Michael. I love it! "OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS! IT'S EVEN!!!!"

  • @mememem
    @mememem Před 5 lety +893

    2:31 he says the thing

  • @arkantrust
    @arkantrust Před měsícem

    I loved your video. I hadn’t felt so much emotion since abstract algebra. Keep up the great work, man.🎉🎉

  • @aluink
    @aluink Před 2 měsíci

    This has and will forever be my favorite proof. Simple, elegant, and easy.

  • @ZomBeeNature
    @ZomBeeNature Před 5 lety +328

    Maybe it's irrational because of a traumatic experience

    • @-_Nuke_-
      @-_Nuke_- Před 5 lety

      @@owltaku5757 xD

    • @barrackoli
      @barrackoli Před 5 lety

      It saw 7 8 9

    • @bard119
      @bard119 Před 5 lety

      What if the number 2 identifies as a 3?

  • @lordonez3794
    @lordonez3794 Před 4 lety +3261

    Me: Doesn’t like math
    Also me: watches man do math for 17 minutes

    • @haydenboyer9193
      @haydenboyer9193 Před 4 lety +17

      Can relate

    • @OGrupxe
      @OGrupxe Před 4 lety +76

      I mean, Michael somehow teaches way better than my math teacher. Don't know about you guys.

    • @keemo4647
      @keemo4647 Před 4 lety +7

      @@williammay451 same

    • @marcel7922
      @marcel7922 Před 4 lety +86

      It's not that you don't like math, it's that you have been taught to fear math by the school system and bad teachers. Math by itself can be fun when it's not connected to pressure.

    • @fliiiou6388
      @fliiiou6388 Před 4 lety +2

      I'm your 666th like, you're now the devil

  • @wlockuz4467
    @wlockuz4467 Před rokem

    Its been more than 10 years since I left my school, and this video made me understand why multiply becomes divide on the other side of the equation and vice versa. I was never told why just taught what.

  • @badilostykes
    @badilostykes Před 7 měsíci +1

    Learning more info from CZcams in 17 minutes than my school can provide in an entire lesson, math edition

  • @bricck
    @bricck Před 5 lety +157

    15:40 "Oh my goodness gracious!" Lol. Getting so excited for an even number

  • @KyrieFortune
    @KyrieFortune Před 4 lety +2150

    Michael: writes 8 as two circles instead of a single interlocked line
    Everyone, while going through content aware scale: *YIKES*

    • @user-fs3ch6cc3j
      @user-fs3ch6cc3j Před 2 lety +45

      8 as two circles are quite.. perfect to look at. You can replay the beginning to see that. Granted.. it can take a bit longer to move your wrist and draw the other circle than to do it in a continuous line :P

    • @Hugowtum
      @Hugowtum Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-fs3ch6cc3j yeah, everytime i write an 8 there will always be a point coming out of it, that trigger me everytime, and i do it with a single line.

    • @noobeleman13ylonce69
      @noobeleman13ylonce69 Před 2 lety +2

      yikes

    • @scibanana3542
      @scibanana3542 Před rokem +7

      I write my 8's as 2 circles.
      Just because it's not the most common way of doing so doesn't mean there's anything inherently wrong with it.

    • @traywor1615
      @traywor1615 Před rokem +7

      What does it mean to be going through content aware scale?

  • @jonia4912
    @jonia4912 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You explained this better in 17 minutes than my math teacher in 45 minutes did

  • @atmoshphere7120
    @atmoshphere7120 Před rokem

    He is indeed one the of the best maths teacher I found while scorilling.

  • @youreyesarebleeding1368
    @youreyesarebleeding1368 Před 3 lety +3833

    God if every math teacher was like this everyone would have their Master's

    • @mikkihintikka7273
      @mikkihintikka7273 Před 3 lety +144

      yeah like in 40 years

    • @Jack-do5tq
      @Jack-do5tq Před 3 lety +13

      @@mikkihintikka7273 lol

    • @padmanabanraghavendran3570
      @padmanabanraghavendran3570 Před 3 lety +91

      Yep , the video was just him explaining basic algebra most of the asians already learnt in 6th or 7th grade
      Idk about western education tho

    • @mikkihintikka7273
      @mikkihintikka7273 Před 3 lety +8

      @@padmanabanraghavendran3570 yep and they learn it in tenth of the time

    • @youreyesarebleeding1368
      @youreyesarebleeding1368 Před 3 lety +36

      @@padmanabanraghavendran3570 western education is optional beyond algebra and some geometry. Highschool usually has you take algebra 1 and 2, geometry, and trigonometry or pre calculus. After that, in college, a lot of degrees only require like... Calc 1 which is pretty easy, you learn derivatives, optimization, integrating, implicit derivatives, and stuff like that mostly.
      In some majors you have to take more, like I am a CS major and i have to take calc I, II, III, and then either calc IV or Matrix Algebra. If i take two extra math courses which i can easily do over summer or something, I will actually be able to get my minor in math. All engineering majors are about the same in that regard

  • @goodman9585
    @goodman9585 Před 5 lety +177

    Hey Vsauce, Michael here. Vsauce is my main channel
    Or is it? 🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵

  • @arsenvokrug4198
    @arsenvokrug4198 Před rokem +4

    This is the video I would like to make myself. But, it could never be as good as this, so now I’m not going to bother!

  • @looney1023
    @looney1023 Před rokem +3

    One minor issue. The statement "a^2 is even implies a is even" doesn't follow from "a even implies a^2 even". It follows from the contrapositive of the statement "a odd implies a^2 odd".
    In this case it seems trivial but the phrasing comes off as "A implies B is true because B implies A is true", which in general is NOT logically true. Converses are not equivalent statements, but contrapositives are.

  • @NetroxSM
    @NetroxSM Před 5 lety +334

    Can we rename this channel to Vsauce4 - Mainly DONG and sometimes Original Vsauce

    • @dumbasgenius7227
      @dumbasgenius7227 Před 5 lety +2

      I love this kind of stuff and its actually the main reason i am subbed. I miss the original Vsauce videos and he hasn't uploaded anything but mindfeild for so long. This kindof stuff should go of Vsauce 1

    • @cosmiccreeper247
      @cosmiccreeper247 Před 5 lety +1

      Or just new vsauce 1 then rename vsauce 1 to vsauce premium

    • @fhz3062
      @fhz3062 Před 5 lety

      This is Vsauce4 - Ponto em Comum (Made in Brazil):
      czcams.com/video/0z2XzdqAMVQ/video.html
      It is an amazing documentary about vaccines.
      "Olá Criaturas da Internet, aqui quem fala é Davi Calazans."
      SAP: Hey Vsauce, Davi Calazans here.

  • @yikes6758
    @yikes6758 Před 5 lety +786

    i wish my math teachers were as engaging as you, god damn

    • @Tor.G
      @Tor.G Před 5 lety +25

      Math teachers are.. but they have to teach you both how to do, and why to do.... and a lot more than just one thing. Most of class would not be able to follow this anyway.

    • @HeroRaze
      @HeroRaze Před 5 lety +52

      it's hard to get your students' eyes to zoom in on your face at comedic moments

    • @shinydewott
      @shinydewott Před 5 lety +6

      Ryan G-P underrated comment

    • @jamesramirez0408
      @jamesramirez0408 Před 5 lety +6

      0:12

    • @DavidDias7
      @DavidDias7 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Tor.G why wouldn't they. While I agree there's a plan the theachers have to follow this is basic math, most youngsters out there would understand pretty quickly

  • @danielortillo1696
    @danielortillo1696 Před rokem +1

    I had no idea what this man was talking about but somehow i was entertained enough to watch the entire video

  • @user-wd6zj3ko4u
    @user-wd6zj3ko4u Před 21 dnem

    This video is so comprehensible and deeply inspiring, thank you for such a wonderful video.

  • @user-or9hk4uz7g
    @user-or9hk4uz7g Před 5 lety +171

    Michael: * says something *
    me : yes yes very good * stares intensely at t-shirt *

  • @UnknowingNeko
    @UnknowingNeko Před 4 lety +1789

    Did I ask for this?
    Absolutely not
    Did I need this?
    Absolutely not
    Did I love this?
    Absolutely

  • @addisonhudelson9505
    @addisonhudelson9505 Před 7 měsíci

    Better energy than my college prof. Perfect example of proof by contradiction

  • @haydenhuss8758
    @haydenhuss8758 Před rokem +1

    When he proved it at the end, I was so excited that I pumped my fist and said, "Yes! We did it!"

  • @goodman9585
    @goodman9585 Před 5 lety +174

    Wait, Michael writes 8 as one circle on top of another.

    • @lordelmo6959
      @lordelmo6959 Před 5 lety +8

      Let him live in peace with his circle 8.

    • @BertGrink
      @BertGrink Před 5 lety +28

      this reminds me of a joke i once read:
      two zeroes are trekking though the desert when they spot an eight under a palm; one zero says to the other: i can't understand how they can do it in this terrible heat.

    • @KenmoreChalfant
      @KenmoreChalfant Před 5 lety +1

      THERE ARE DOZENS OF US

    • @utube4204
      @utube4204 Před 5 lety

      Normies

    • @eshan309
      @eshan309 Před 5 lety +2

      Y O O O O W Z E R S

  • @plg2859
    @plg2859 Před 4 lety +243

    When you wake up on Monday and remember that you didn't do ur homework
    0:13

  • @quintonconoly
    @quintonconoly Před 7 měsíci

    That was actually pretty beautiful

  • @carriersignal
    @carriersignal Před 2 měsíci +1

    Now if only my math instructors in school could have explained things as thoroughly and with such enthusiasm, instead of just glossing over everything.

  • @torin1006
    @torin1006 Před 5 lety +317

    I too enjoy binomial multiplication.

  • @lonequester
    @lonequester Před 5 lety +78

    14:07 "Oh my goodness gracious"
    15:40 "Oh my goodness gracious"

  • @Rurumeto
    @Rurumeto Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'm on a physics degree but somehow Vsauce michael is the first person to tell me the rational ratio name thing.

  • @evellium8037
    @evellium8037 Před 10 měsíci

    This is my favorite video put out by Michael and I have no idea why.

  • @michaelbuckers
    @michaelbuckers Před 5 lety +797

    Dong status: fully expanded.

  • @bugjams
    @bugjams Před 4 lety +904

    Micheal: Do you know what an even and an odd number are?
    Me: I do!
    Micheal: ...or do you?
    Me: 😦😦😦

    • @sickomode2761
      @sickomode2761 Před 4 lety +6

      Alex Baldwin how did you spell it wrong twice

    • @bugjams
      @bugjams Před 4 lety +7

      @@sickomode2761
      Micheal? That's how autocorrect tells me to spell it. :(

    • @mariafe7050
      @mariafe7050 Před 4 lety +4

      Alex Baldwin Can you turn off autocorrect?

    • @platypuschallenger
      @platypuschallenger Před 4 lety +2

      Spelled 'Michael'

    • @sharkronical
      @sharkronical Před 4 lety +2

      It's Mikál

  • @PranavBhagat-xv8ye
    @PranavBhagat-xv8ye Před 9 měsíci +1

    I just finished my chapter real numbers and learn about proving Irrational and CZcams recommendations this to me

  • @jodinha4225
    @jodinha4225 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I find it really beautiful that the sqrt(2) is the ratio of 2 even numbers. Numbers so even that their ratio is irrational.
    Its really fitting for 2, the most quintessentially even number, that at its root is numbers so even our minds cannot comprehend it, in a way.

    • @DOROnoDORO
      @DOROnoDORO Před 2 měsíci

      sqrt(2) cannot be expressed as the ratio of two even numbers

    • @be7256
      @be7256 Před 3 dny +1

      sorry to burst your bubble man
      root 2 cant be expressed this way
      it was a proof by contradiction
      root 2 is assumed to be rational and set as a fraction in its lowest form
      on solving the fraction we figure out it can still be dividing lower
      this contradicts the statement that its in its lowest form
      the contradiction basically tells ya that root2 being a fraction aint a thing and stuffs gonna break if you try to make it so

  • @grandayy
    @grandayy Před 5 lety +2328

    Sorry if I'm dumb but I don't really get it. For me the proof Michael shows at 5:55 only proves that an even number squared always produces an even number, NOT that the square root of any even number is also an even number. For example the square root of 6 isn't an even number, since by definition an even number has to be an integer (not a fraction). And this kinda ruins the whole proof at the end in my mind. Pls help me out. Edit: Ok I finally get it, for those that are still confused I hope this clears it out (thanks to FlamingJM for making me understand it fully):
    The proofs at 5:55 indeed don't prove that the square root of any even number is also an even number, like I said. They just prove that all even integers squared produce even numbers, and all odd integers squared produce odd numbers. This means that IF the square root of an even number is an integer, then it must itself also be an even integer, (it can't be an odd integer since all odd integers squared produce odd numbers).
    In the final proof at the end, we know that a and b are integers (because numerators and denominators in a fraction are always integers after all). Therefore since by squaring either of them you get an even number, they themselves must also be even numbers.
    All of this means that if the square root of an even number is not an integer, then it must be an irrational number. Apparently this applies to odd numbers too. So the square roots of not just 2, but all other non-square numbers, are also irrational numbers. I only learned this now. Hope this helps. And as always, thanks for watching!

    • @TheUltimateDavyGravy
      @TheUltimateDavyGravy Před 5 lety +298

      the square root of 6 is also an irrational number, just like the square root of two, so you've basically just discovered the same contradiction that Michael uses to prove that the square root of two is irrational

    • @Capstfu
      @Capstfu Před 5 lety +57

      I thought we all knew that most even numbers have irrational square roots 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @FlamingJ999
      @FlamingJ999 Před 5 lety +197

      Remember that he defined a and b to be integers. This means that a² and b² are squares of integers. While it is true that sqrt(a) is not necessarily an even integer if a is an even integer, we know that a is an integer, and we're squaring it to get a². So if a² is an even integer, we know that a (the integer that was squared to get a²) is also an even integer.

    • @jasonroyer9870
      @jasonroyer9870 Před 5 lety +65

      He doesn't prove that the square root of an even number is even, but rather the square root of c^2 (where c represents an even number) is even, which is common sense: squaring and square root-ing cancel reach other out and oh my God you have over a million subs

    • @FlamingJ999
      @FlamingJ999 Před 5 lety +46

      Another way to think about it is that, since he proved that all odd numbers squared are odd, and a² is even, then a is definitely not odd (he already defined a to be an integer) thus a is even.

  • @kennethirgendwas4616
    @kennethirgendwas4616 Před 5 lety +179

    This is kind of a fusion of numberfile and vsauce
    And for some reason it is on DONG

  • @aboriani
    @aboriani Před rokem

    4 years later and all I can say is I miss this channel and the good old VSauce...

  • @JustAPersonWhoComments
    @JustAPersonWhoComments Před 8 měsíci +1

    I used to think the square root of 2 was just another number, but it turns out it's the sneakiest number of them all!

  • @sujalgvs987
    @sujalgvs987 Před 4 lety +96

    Michael looking at 8 : *ahegao faces*
    Michael looking at 0.8: *incoherent screaming*

  • @stephendonovan9084
    @stephendonovan9084 Před 4 lety +840

    Me: I already know this proof, it’s pretty basic, I’ll just move on
    ...
    *clicks anyway*

    • @xxcsokixx
      @xxcsokixx Před 3 lety +21

      Yup. I had to learn it when graduated from high school 3 years ago. Still nice to refresh your brain with some lovely smiling 'or is it' Michael.

    • @realbignoob1886
      @realbignoob1886 Před 3 lety +1

      I had to learn it in middle school...

    • @stephendonovan9084
      @stephendonovan9084 Před 3 lety +16

      @@can.of.beans101 It seems I did, good thing you remembered to write one for me. Thanks champ :)

    • @petrapinter349
      @petrapinter349 Před 3 lety +3

      @@stephendonovan9084 that comeback😳

    • @DrexYiii
      @DrexYiii Před 3 lety

      OR IS IT BASIC?

  • @rizz5228
    @rizz5228 Před 11 měsíci

    Learned this in my discrete math class my last semester. Had to prove a lot of things like this such as there are infinitely many primes. That one is similar to this problem

  • @monkey6114
    @monkey6114 Před 19 dny +2

    And this proof works for the square root of any non perfect square numbers

  • @ythaenagor
    @ythaenagor Před 5 lety +1812

    the way Michael writes the number 8 is mildly infuriating

  • @mudrams5015
    @mudrams5015 Před 3 lety +650

    Let’s just take a moment to appreciate how straight all of his lines are.

    • @oldmanjeffrey
      @oldmanjeffrey Před 2 lety +21

      Those things were straighter than I am!
      But that’s not saying much.

    • @theAWPspammer
      @theAWPspammer Před 2 lety +8

      @@oldmanjeffrey ayo

    • @ablemoo
      @ablemoo Před 2 lety +4

      @@oldmanjeffrey 😏😏 okay daddy

  • @dme28
    @dme28 Před 3 měsíci

    most brilliant video of all on vsauce channel

  • @flourishforever
    @flourishforever Před 7 měsíci +1

    There's an oversight in this proof. The fact that an even number squared is also even does not mean that the root of an even number is necessarily squared. This needs further proof, if we are to remain rigorous.

    • @Adventurer-te8fl
      @Adventurer-te8fl Před 6 měsíci

      Yes, however, in this proof, a and b are defined to be integers in the initial assumption

  • @matthewtyburski7624
    @matthewtyburski7624 Před 4 lety +1067

    “Let’s prove that the square root of 2 is irrational”
    “Yay!”
    “But first, we have to reteach all of the math you learned in 1st grade”

    • @videogamemusic2962
      @videogamemusic2962 Před 3 lety +41

      “Yay?”

    • @Alfaris
      @Alfaris Před 3 lety +185

      In 1st grade, they teach you how to do arithmetic. In this video, he teaches you why the arithmetic works. I guarantee you your teacher was not proving the arithmetic rules in 1st grade.

    • @ccspizza7778
      @ccspizza7778 Před 3 lety +91

      Wait you did binomial multiplication in first grade

    • @generichomosapien4666
      @generichomosapien4666 Před 3 lety +22

      isn’t numbers just lines made by some evolved hairy apes used to count things so the mammals look cool?

    • @ajaybyadgi2672
      @ajaybyadgi2672 Před 3 lety +2

      yang ye also it's used for some other stuff somehow idk tho