How Disney's Magical Trash Tubes Ended Up In New York City | World Wide Waste | Insider Business
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- At Disney World, the Magic Kingdom uses a system of pneumatic tubes to keep trash out of sight for park visitors. While this was supposed to be the future of waste disposal, only one other place in the US uses something like it on a similar scale: Roosevelt Island in New York City.
Correction: July 27, 2023- Due to an error from a source, an earlier version of this video misstated the amount of trash handled per day by the Magic Kingdom’s AVAC system. The correct figure is 15,000 pounds, not tons.
00:00 Intro
01:04 History of Pneumatic Tubes
02:30 How They Work
05:39 Trash Systems Around The World
06:48 New Tubes In Harlem
08:02 Credits
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How Disney's Magical Trash Tubes Ended Up In New York City | World Wide Waste | Insider Business
I thought Disney's trash tubes ended in NYC and I was wondering how and why they built them all the way up to NYC.
Bro that’s what I thought. I thought it was the system of how trash goes from NYC to North Carolina
@@x-90 DeSantis is working on it
That's exactly what I thought too
Same here
@@DSAK55have you met someone who has moved from florida to nyc? title is correct 😂
I worked in a flood control system for years and it never failed to amaze me what people would throw into the system. I’ve pulled mattresses out of pumping stations, car seats and one time, a sleeper sofa that was dumped into a manhole. We had to cut it apart because it had sprung open and then broke. That was not a good day!
As usual, every system fails because there's always some dumb people who will screw it up. Unfortunately we gotta let low IQ people use these sophisticated systems too.
it's a bit more complicated than that. rain washes everything down into the system. people crash their cars into the water. homeless people are often driven to live near bodies of water and leave all their stuff there. then it rains and the week after you're knee deep in shit trying to get that thing out. Couch down a manhole is a new one for me tho jfc
wait, how do you put a mattress in that??????
No matter how foolproof you try to make something, some fool will come along and break it.
I at think about this type of issue at least once a day. It annoys the living f out of me how careless and unthoughtful (in my case New Yorkers), but Americans as a whole too are with their garbage. You go out of your way to buy or order something, you use it up and then think the waste isn't your problem? Food wrappers, cigarette butts, boxes, electronics, furniture that people put together but when they throw it out, they just dump it whole for someone else to deal with, etc. It's insane. Once something isn't useful, they just don't give a f to dispose of it correctly.
I find it hilarious that the abbreviation for the Department of Sanitation New York is DSNY, which looks instead like an abbreviation for Disney.
We DO have these systems in Europe, and while they're not as common as normal trash cans, they are really starting to become popular (at least where I live). I've seen them in different cities and different countries, and they even allow for recycling and separating trash.
Also, the "giant metal containers put into the ground" (called "Islands" here) are another really cool idea for improving regular trash cans. They can be really big inside, while only occupying a small space on the outside. And they also keep the trash contained and below the ground, so the streets are cleaner on the surface and it's more difficult for rats and wildlife to get to it.
"We DO have these systems in Europe"
Literally mentions it in the video.
Even mentions that the US systems are of a European design.
You gotta be dense as hell my guy
Not to mention the islands keep the trash cool in the summers. Prevents a lot of bad smell in dense areas, and maggots
not even one minute in they say these systems exist in Europe
how....
One thing New York City could implement is the style of avac trash cans used in the Neverland's. Basically all the trash cans route directly to an underground trash Jim proctor and pressurize storage container. And the entire container is lifted up out of the ground and replaced whenever the trash is collected on a monthly basis.
Sounds similar to the system the Death Star uses.
The Netherlands... Not Neverlands.....
@@BeccaHetrick he means michael Jackson's houses
I think its important to note they most of the people on this island are probably referencing new yorks trash disposal system, which, because it doesnt have alleys, is really just throwing trash into the middle of the street.
So funny bro. I wish I was a new yorker so I could hear more jokes like this hilarious one, by you genius. Goofy ass
@Domedwho care to explain what he said wrong? Since new york very much has curbside trash collection.
I feel like university campuses might be a good candidate for pneumatic trash-collection systems, since they already have centralized steam heating and cooling plants.
True. Biggest issue is that the universities are never built at once. You have hundreds of buildings which were built over a century, you still have the retrofit problem.
Rosevelt island was built at once. Disney was built at once. 4000 housing units in NYC are being built at once. They didn't have the retrofit problem.
@@AnonyMous-pi9zm True. However, my university is seriously considering replacing its ancient steam-heating system with a hot-water system, which would require a complete replacement of every single heating pipe crossing campus. So it's not a lack of ability, it's just a lack of motivation.
I've lived in NYC my whole life and never knew about this, thank you for this story!
Nyc is a trash dump
Part of New York City charm, there is so much in such a little area you could spend your whole life there and doing something different everyday and there will still be something new to do tomorrow and just a walk away.
I moved to Roosevelt Island in 1976. I was six. We used to run around the outside of the AVAC building for fun. I remember the air pulling you in at the trash rooms.
To breakdown the cost of this system (not including maintenance) is equal to roughly 18 years of traditional waste service where I live. In very urban areas like NYC it makes sense, but getting everyone else on board will be a hard sell.
In less dense neighbourhoods it probably doesn't make sense, but any major city or capital is probably a great candidate.
Hello from Bergen with the "BIR"-marked trash tubes. 8t of daily trash from just 11k inhabitants sounds like a lot of garbage. Both here and at Disney, the best approach with trash seems to start at the beginning: By producing less.
Great comment! Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. There's good reason they're said in that order. It's the order of importance.
It's about 660g per day per person.
I imagine a lot of it comes from businesses.
5:20 old lady picking up a book she herself wrote: “oh what a wonderful book, I think I’ll read it.”
Did you direct her to say that, or did she just do that randomly? Lol
The person who climbs trough the pipes.. i really hope hè gets paid well!
Ponchatrain Beach in New Orleans had a system like that in the 1960's. The trash receptacles looked like animal heads and you put trash in their mouths. Kids would run around looking for trash to "feed" them. It was a great idea!
In Stockholm we have similar inlets. They are called the "Trash Monsters" one takes organic waste, one recycling, and one regular trash. Kids love it!
I worked at the Mouse House in Orlando Florida and I have used the trash removal system and while it did what it was suppose to do the tubes were overhead in what are called the utilidor system or utility tunnels and in some parts the of utilidors the tubes leak liquids and the liquids drip onto the floor of the utilidor and stink! You learn not to walk under the tubes. At the time that I worked there the trash was sent to an incenter where it was burned and used to generate electricity to run parts of the Mouse House.
Disney maintains their own system, while others have Envac maintain it. One positive aspect to having Envac do it is we are able to update the technology as well.
@@EnvacNorthAmericalast time I saw Disney’s AVAC system, they had modernized it and replaced most of the tube network and AVAC chute rooms. I assume they also upgraded the computer control system as part of that renovation.
I always wanted a central vacuum in my house. Now I want one of these. Very cool.
Very similar concept - in fact, I believe the central vac was the inspiration for this!
The pipes don't necessarily need to be underground. Be creative!
The pneumatic tube system already existed under nYc streets for transporting mail & memos between buildings way back in the day but was abandoned
One major difference is the size of the tubes. Trash tubes are 16-20" in diameter. The mail tubes are similar to what you'd see at a bank drive-up.
Wow that is a great idea for any city no garbage guys no trucks just people to service and in plug it
Recycle systems do not really work because most of the product ends up in another land fill.
This vacuum system might work for some areas yet its going to fail because there is no laws that will prevent people from miss using it. If you were to have 4 tubes of glass, paper, metal and waste. Offering a shredder before each location will make it easy to keep the tubs clean. Labels and lots of labels such as you are being recorded and any attempts to abuse or violate the collection location will result in crimminal charges and banishment from building and so on. Being able to shred up the product before it end up at the collection area allows for a much better end product. The plastic can then be flushed with water then sent to a oven to be burnt off for energy or melted down to create plastic blocks. The metal and then be washed and then ferrous metal pulled and sent to a smelter to make rough blocks. The non ferrous metals can be separated even more. Ewaste can be collected and ground down for raw product which can be sent to a city run tacitly for further processing or to the country processing.
With in the next 10 or so years we will have the first AI controlled trash bot which will dig in to every land fill grind up everything and salvage every bit of material that is there. Landfills hold vast amounts of money.
Imagine being like Fry and falling into the tube and traveling all over the city lol
I need a vacuum tube from my computer desk to my local McDonalds!
Thanks for clarifying the mistake in the description, the subtitles were still wrong and had me very confused!
Love to see the redesign or evolved version of this. That doesn't use a vacuum or have so many issues with clogs .
Oh yeah that'll work out well. The projects with a high maintenance trash system. Looking forward to "baby found in trash tubes" stories already.
It's not "Top Secret" there's articles everywhere and they give tours showing them
6:48 Juliette is spot on.. especially related to high-rise housing developments.. 👍😎✊
6:37 DSNY Department of Sanitation New York
DSNY... sounds like Disney :D
In Norway we got this system in our building. Its an L shape making us not be able to throw long objects. And the slit is small so the object cannot be too wide. Later there is 1 garbage truck someplace that sucks up the trash from multiple buildings instead of having to travel to them all.
Does Disney put their remake movies in the tubes?
HAHAHAHA
The true gold is in the comments.
The systems can't handle that much crap...
nice one
unfortunately, the pneumatic systems aren't built to handle dumpster-fires, only dumpsters.
The real problem is education, if you actually fined people for not disposing of rubbish correctly and made places available for people to put rubbish things change.
Were i live our recycling centre doesn't take half the stuff our federal law say they are meant to process, and allows dumping of crazy things that should go to a 2nd hand shop and sold for cheap (cause if you get shit for free, don't charge $40 for a mower maybe 5 like back in the day)
We have a recylcing drop off area at our tips in Australia. I had a bunch of bricks they could resell, the guy gave me a pallet then left... I wasn't about to sit there stacking bricks for them to sell later, so they all went into the general tip. Need to have the employee's that will actually help to sort stuff.
Placing the responsibility on individuals is just a bad idea. There is a lot of unrealized value sitting in landfills that we're wasting. Landfill leachates (and the landfill itself) actually contain a lot of expensive compounds like iron, zinc, copper, lithium, cobalt, gold, silver, etc. but generally rather than collecting and selling the metals companies actually pay another person to remove them from the leachate so the treated leachate effluent can be released to a river and then the treatment facility pays someone else to inject the collected metals into the ground in a disposal injection well that blasts it underground far below the water line never to be seen again. Recycling and sorting is nice but if landfills handled waste properly it wouldn't really be needed since we could recycle at the atom level versus looking for useful objects to pull apart.
Yep, the systems in Europe work because their population is capable and willing to use the system correctly.
Recycling in the states is a whole other toping for debate. A significant amount of it ends up as landfill or worse, direct pollution to the environment, just in a different country...
We had that, then someone claimed they could do it cheaper. Turns out they weren't, butt it took ten years to "figure it out" because it was off shored. By then the on shore model was gone. Note we have nobody.
Swedes are so cool
sweden got alot of these , also have a system that you pick your kind of garbage . / recycling by a klick of a button. i think they installed it some areas where they uses vaccum to emty underground tanks. and those are used by 10-15.000 citizens
2:57 - _"So yesterday was a 17-hour workday"_
If you're paid for 8 hours, it's an 8 hour workday! The other 9 hours where unpaid labor, lowering your hourly income by over 50%!
Hopefully he's paid by the hour then.
So nice to see material from Finland here
I love these videos
Woah would be a game changer if they installed this in NYC.
It's a great concept that works well in dense urban environments much like District Heating. There just aren't that many large pockets like that in the USA and if they are they seem to roll their eyes at anything that screams the verboten S-word despite how sensible they are... What a shame!
Another reason they don't just put the pipes in is, they have no idea what's underground. It's a maze of pipes and wires and getting the maps for them takes a lot of time.
Well to me it sounds a little weird, how did other countries install these systems then? Also these underground dumpster that store trash and allow a garbage truck to collect it isn’t seen anywhere in the country which is weird too.
Don't forget the fact that a lot of the old maps, pipes, and even sewer systems just...well don't exist anymore.
I would think that they would compact it into walle compressed bits of waste in an format that would fit in the tube and dont clog it
Seems like a great way to dispose of body parts. Good luck figuring out where that head and torso came from!
I have this weird irrational fear of pneumatic/suction/high pressure systems and the potential blockages, but I guess thats where valves and other failsafes come in.
Look into nuflow services for your pipes could get an extra 30-45 years out of them
Where is the separating of the trash? Do they not recycle?
I wonder how many body parts gets put in this system since it’s right by NYC I’m guessing it would be a great way to dispose of a body but you’d have to cut it up to fit and not get jammed but I don’t see how you would get caught doing it
The beginning of this video says the Magic Kingdom produces 15,000 tons of trash per day. That's 30,000,000 or 30 million pounds of trash per day. Does that sound correct?
i was just thinking the same thing, its kind of hard to believe they produce that much trash
Nope, i google it and found 80,000 pounds a day which is 40 US Tons
@hazvlogs838 It irks me when videos spout nonsensical "facts" that defy logic ... which will undoubtedly be requoted and misinformation spread. Maybe not intentionally, but just lazy research.
@@hazvlogs838 That 80,000 pounds a day is just what goes through the AVACS system but why more gets thrown out but 15,000 tons a day is wrong they say it's 441 tons of trash a day from all of Disney World or 161,000 tons a year
judging by how close 15,000/365 is to 40 (~41.096), i feel like this could easily be accidentally saying “per day” rather than the intended “per year”, though it certainly isn’t a great look for something like it to slip through in the first moments of the video
Installing it in low income housing will surely end well. The system is inherently labor-intensive. BTW if the maintenance tech wants a "corkscrew" that bends one could be made in various ways like torch brazing impact (no chrome) 1/2" universal joints and extensions to let it conform to pipe. For long straight sections the flex extension could be guided by PVC tube the way flexible borescope extensions are guided into jet engines.
It really depends on what numbers one takes, but taking some numbers we pay over here in switzerland it is fun to play some numbers games.
at 31 million dollars for 4000 residents this puts the cost per resident at about 8k.
Our elevator in a mid-rise building costs about 1k per rental unit per year with electricity, service and maintenance and paying off the installation cost. Adding the average trash disposal cost of about 600$ annually such an investment could easily be redeemed in about 5 years or at least within the decade. Put the trash into an incineration station and provide centralized heating with it and the whole thing pretty much pays for itself quite quickly.
Avoid waste is the only real solution.
Neat!!
So at 3:15, there's a truck driver with DSNY on his hi-vis shirt. Dept.Sanitation New York I assume , but D_SN_Y looks familiar to me.
Id love if places like omaha nebraska would use this, bake it into the city when its still young
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I feel like the subway system in New York would be a good thing for vacuum tubes because you can install the main tubes then lead them to the rail systems and use trash rail cars to move the trash to a facility to process.... Plus there's the old steam systems that you can use and adding to them shouldn't be a problem.
I wish we had pneumatic tubes from house to house and the grocery store. The gets it box.
If we still have that today, Uber eat wouldn’t have existed😂
Is it weird that the pipes in the thumbnail made me think this was a Satisfactory video.
It's a series of tubes!!!
They produce a lot of trash for the theaters as well. Kind of amazing. Not talking about the popcorn buckets unfortunately.
It’s always nice to see the clean cut, well dressed senior leaders get dirty when the cameras come around lol
There was an incident at a dam where a guy got sucked into a lower part of the dam getting almost half his body stuck inside something like a 10 inch pipe. Id like to put in I'll never be the guy to crawl inside a vacuum pipe.
Yeah welding in a confined space. What a genius idea.
think outside the box.these systems could be installed above ground,no need to destroy buildings
5:35 The rats are working behind the desk !
15 Thousand Tons? That can't be right. That's half a ton a customer.
Every thing has is own advantages & disadvantages also ✌️
Hello, just wanna say that these kind of tube system are not common in europe. I think we don't even have a system like that. What we DO is to seperate our trash between paper, plastik and bio. So the trash can be pick up by the garbage service and go the the recycling fercility. When an item doesn't fit in one of these 3 category they go into residual waste bin and intead to the recycling fecility the trash lands into waste incineration.
As a European, I can tell you that I've seen more than a few systems like these, in different cities and different countries. Usually they are small (covering just a part of a city, like in NY). But I've also seen big ones that cover entire cities, and they seem to work better than "traditional" waste management. I'm looking forward to the day when this is more widely implemented across the continent, but as of now, we DO have these kind of systems.
incineration is a form of recycling. people here need to get that through their heads. instead all we get is opposition with boogeyman stories how it's putting dioxin in to the air. plastic is make from oil and gas. burning that is like burning the oil.
Isn't this the same principle behind the hyper loop?
Huge problem still, I only see just one bin. What a shame in 2023 there isn’t recycling bins for different materials
the market for recycled is terrible. much recycled stuff ends up as landfill . it cost alot of money to recycle and the product doesn't pay for the cost.
Recycling is a scam. Look into it
Which 3rd world country you live in?
I think these are extremely rare in Europe, I cannot imagine these being common even in Sweden. It is a little bit of a disinformation to make it feel like ‘wow, the Europeland in Europe is so much more progressive. What about the sucky USA?’
But at least with trash, for example in Germany it is either just regular trashcans or the giant metal containers put into the ground, filled with fermenting garbage and flies, that garbage trucks have to pull out on chains and stuff, a horrible thing that just stench when it is hot weather
In Eastern Europe you would have trash tubes - mostly going vertically through a block of flats into a container
No pneumatic, just gravity
We DO have these systems in Europe, and while they're not as common as normal trash cans, they are really starting to become popular (at least where I live). I've seen them in different cities and different countries, and they even allow for recycling and separating trash.
Also, the "giant metal containers put into the ground" (called "Islands" here) are another really cool idea for improving regular trash cans. They can be really big inside, while only occupying a small space on the outside. And they also keep the trash contained and below the ground, so the streets are cleaner on the surface and it's more difficult for rats and wildlife to get to it.
In Stockholm, Sweden these kind of systems are very common.
In the beginning narrator says “15000 pounds per day” but the closed captions says “15000 tons per day”
I live here in Orlando Florida, and I have sold containers to Disney multiple times to where all they do is fill them up with trash and toxic waste and bury them on Disney property
rather than building a whole network of system offsite. We should employ local garbage processing plant in every few blocks, just like we have parks. The plastic should be separated, organic waste should be treated and converted to manure and then can be sold locally and remaining can go into maintain the parks.
You can't bend it ... I mean you CAN bend it, but that's only because there's already a bend in it. JEEZ lol
we have those in satisfactory.
It’s not top secret at Disney, you just don’t have the right access and connections
When you said "magical tubes"...good ol' Al Gore thought you were talking about the internet!
6:34 - Look what her hat says 😂 Conspiracy???
0:07 Subtitles say 15,000 tons but narrator says 15,000 pounds. Big difference lol
What's the reason in keeping it "top secret" it could benefit so many people
Maybe it's me but I "rewound" twice and didn't hear/see anything about how the trash gets into the tubes-from the residents/apartments. The video jumps to (3:04) "Everyday about eight tons of trash runs through these tubes".....From where? How? And, the title is wrong/misleading.
This infrastructure is gonna be extremely expensive to build and maintain. It’s going to be way more expensive than a fleet of trash trucks. They’re going to charge you an absurd amount to use it. It’ll probably cost hundreds of dollar per month. I hope this doesn’t become widespread.
Fun fact:
*Disney itself is throwing itself down these very same trash tubes*
“… has gone down the tubes.”
Wonder when groups are going to take a look at all the garbage we are making by all this shop at home and have it delivered to your door stuff. What a waste and it is only growing bigger
4:41
NOPE
NOPE NOPE NOPE screw that
Hell, I would love it if my building had a compactor. Right now, I have to go down to the basement and out into the alley to dump my trash. No one wants to dispose of their trash at night because of the rats.
So how does the trash get into the system? What's the opening starting point look like?
yes this was very light on the actual operation of the system. like how much electricity is used to create that vacuum which runs 24/7 .
How many bodies have been found throughout the years?
"Disney won't let us see theirs, so let's go to one exactly the same." haha
New yorks trash i believe is tranferred to another state from a a video i watched. I can remember.
$31 million? How much would it have been without the AVAC?
Why not build above street pedestrian walkways spanning like 3-5 blocks from the nearest trash facility, add trees to beautify the neighborhood. Hide the pneumatic tubes in the underbelly of the walkways, and add stations below that will serve as entry to the walkway, trash depositing centers, and they're the walkways support. Try it out for a year, who knows
will you fund it? raise you middle class taxes sure that will happen.
hyperloop!!! .... :-)
Also America is huge not a small European country if you had to lay out and maintain more pipes it would probably cost to much.
I saw the title and thought they just took tbe pipes and moved them lol. Totally not high.
Imagine getting stuck in that pipe.
Imagine having enough money to pay me to even think about getting into that pipe, in the first place.
they will rip you out with those twisted metals
No problem, they just turn the compressor back on and you'll shoot out the other end in no time!
@@mistermist634 At last, the origins of the human cannonball revealed.
One delayed time fuse magnesium flare sucked into one of those suckers and poof, you’ve got a fire.
Just throw an AirTag and see where it goes
1:33 no way he invented the hyperloop???1?????!!!