THE CRAZIEST POKÉMON CLIMAX EVER!? Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Ending EXPLAINED!
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Having a Pokémon plot that doesn’t involve an evil team trying to take over a region feels surprisingly refreshing
It's the third gen in a row to do this
@@redram6080 The 2 before this still had something similar though
@@redram6080 not really, the last 2 regions had secret organizations in the background. Team Skull was just a group of troublemakers who would cause trouble to make the true evil team to look good to the masses. Then SS tried the same thing but fucked it up so well that it felt random
@@pokeleoantiqua7326 not really one just wanted to make energy and the other were just a gang
They are similar to lusamine, that is obsessed with ultra beasts and tries to make portals to their world
Honestly, I think the storyline actually benefitted from not interacting with the Professor very much, since it kept them as an enigmatic figure who kept the player guessing what their deal was. In doing that, they made the punch with the reveal that much more impactful, since unless you paid REALLY close attention or were spoiled beforehand, you didn't know what you were getting into, and to some extent you still didn't even when going into battle.
Honestly, if/when there is DLC, there are a few plot points and holes they need to fill (notably the implied "hexagonal shell" Pokemon that apparently powered Area Zero somehow) and also, maybe, give Arven a happier ending. Poor guy deserves it.
I'm hoping that if we get a dlc it'll be exploring kalos while also experiencing more paradox pokemon cause i doubt that all the paradox pokemon stayed in the crater
I for one would enjoy a dlc focused on giving arven a happy ending. Perhaps saving his parents from death maybe? I know the time machine is busted, but thats what dialga is for!
I almost feel that the room the time machine is in is that shell pokemon. They are inside of it, maybe the time machine itself is apart of its workings. The professor merely fiddled and modified it to be a time machine. After all, paradox pokemon were there before the time machine was built, so perhaps it was more of a means to fully control the time transportation anomaly than fully making it from scratch.
I'm pretty sure a depiction of the hexagonal shell Pokemon can be seen if you read the Violet book located in the school library/entrance
Along with this you can also find a depiction of Paradox Suicune/Virizion
@@giornogiovanna8476 The paradox forms of Suicune and Virizion in the books look like they are combined with the other two of their respective collection. They look really interesting, though I wonder how their combination could come about.
I kinda cried. Especially for Arven. Poor guy. He kicked my ass the most of any of the other battles and I really warmed up to him.
When he was introduced, I thought he was too angry and hotheaded. But it honestly makes so much sense why he acts like that 😭 He later turned into my favorite character after I found out what he needed the herbs for 😿
@@sweatygorl right!! I liked him a lot he was cool. I’ll help him get all the weed he needs or whatever it was for his pokemon.
After becoming fully invested in the Path of Legends Quest I was determined to help Arven and bring the professor home so when we left area zero I was devastated like I let my big bro down
@@sweatygorl my pet just died two months ago you could never imagine how much his story hit me too.. I'm glad his Pokemon managed to recover.
i dont really like arven, but i definitely hate him less after this cause i love his dog and this kid is not okay :’]
Something I noticed during the glitching text at the beginning of the second battle is that there's a brief moment between the switch from AI Turo/Sada to Paradise Protocol where you can see the text, "AI Turo/Sada has no intention of fighting anymore!" which was a real punch in the gut for me since the AI clearly had more heart than the original professor. Perhaps that's why the battle is a scripted win, the AI professor is trying everything they can not to hurt you.
Yeah, I noticed that in a different video and commented on it, but no one seemed to notice as well. It's really cool.
oh shit really? Damn... I am even more sad now
I JUST noticed that thanks to your comment. Now I want to cry even more for the AI and just slap the original professor harder.
AW IT SAYS THAT?? OUCH
whoopsie i’m crying over 3d models again
Once I realized Arvens goals I literally rushed every Titan Pokémon to save this man’s dog.
I cheesed the stronger Titans just to finish his story.
He's my favorite rival since N. His end fight was THE hardest ngl I lost to him several times and steamrolled the rest of the game.
me too. got them all in a day and i legit cried when his dog rose up and BRO I CANT DO THIS AGAIN
I beat the titan Iron Treads with an axe kicking Lokix
@@atomicq3603 Dondozo and Tatsugiri were easy with Gargancal with Salt Cure and Protect. I was ten levels under leveled.
Same, shout-out to my disobedient ass Iron Valiant I got from a trade lol
It's funny not only an AI was introduced into the game as a double of the professor that's fort the first time a major character that has been confirmed dead, it's also an interesting twist that the professor has went obsessive and mad compared to the other moderate professors of other games, and the AI that apparently actually is a genuinely nice person that really wanted to prevent a catastrophe, instead of running amok on its own
Just a thought running through my head what if the way the ai is was the way the professor used to be before he went insane/mind control kind of like heath was in the violet book there is a page/extract called the phantom memory saying that heath was talking to someone or something and his team found him knocked out with some paper or parchment whatever they wrote on (just remembered journal) but he didn’t remember writing it could be the same thing with turo/sada
While playing the game I remember thinking "wow professor Sada's dialouge feels very flavorless and almost robotic." The look on my face during the reveal was probably priceless. Also if you do the history courses in school Mrs. Raifort will say that she wishes someone would invent a time machine so she could explore the past. Huh
Oh shut up Rebecca you didnt think that
@@RiverNeo the lore thickens
@@RiverNeo ?
@@RiverNeoWho’s Rebecca?
@@RiverNeo who's rebecca
This is probably the best ending to any pokemon game ngl and easily one of the better plots. Black and white and Sun and moon had friggen amazing plots and characters but damn scarlet and violet delivered so well, probs my fave ending next to sun and moon (black and white still slap I just like the other 2 more)
yeah, but in order to get to it you have to grind through all the filler.
@@HenryBenedictUSA very true and I personally dislike filler but I believe that the pay off was really worth it imo even tho the filler can be really tedious at times
Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon ruined the story for Alola imo. It flipped all that character development with Lillie, Gladion, and Lusamine.
@@Danny328DT I agree with that I don't think its god awful but it's an very significant downgrade from how amazing sun and moons plot was
True, but it really kinda bad cuz bugs. If nintendo gives out patches in the future to fix all of them it'd be an even greater game.. i'm mainly salty when it comes to the bugs cuz it cost me my first shiny..
One of the books on the desks while descending deeper into area zero says "that man/woman left" which to me hints at that the other professor aka parent is around still. If we get DLC that is something I would like to see. Arven meeting his mom/dad, do hope they keep their look from the other game if this happens.
Both Sada and Turo are canon to both versions of the game. Depending which version you play, either Sada or Turo divorces the other and leaves Paldea region sometime after Arven is born. The professor who stays in Paldea gains full custody of Arven. They left because their ex became more unhinged and sunk into the time machine research as time went by. Arven lost his custodial parent and became an orphan when he was around 7-10 years old, 10 years prior to the game’s events.
@@uberkirbeeh7954 where did you get this info from
@@gracjackVEVO It's in the game. There are diary entries in Area Zero lab cites that Sada / Turo wrote. They make a reference to Arven's other parent leaving them. Even when it doesn't mention their name in it it's pretty clear that the intention is to reference the Sada or Turo that left. Arven's in game dialogue and the AI Sada / Turo's dialogue also supports it.
@@uberkirbeeh7954 That's not confirmed. Although it could be the other professor, it is not clearly stated to be so.
@@justhereforfun7288 You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to make the connection when the intention os right there. I do not see any point for GF to introduce two more NPCs to make up Arven’s other parents when they already have both Sada and Turo, and Arven has clear traits of both.
Something I noticed is that on certain doors, like the one before actually entering Area Zero from the base I think, there's a message written in Paldean I suppose. But considering their letters look kinda similar to ours, we can make out the word "arven". Another nice little detail showing that the Professor didn't forget about their son in the end.
Also in the lab, there is a photo of a younger Arven cuddling his Maschiff happily.
shit so my theory is wrong
@@excuse.me.princess That depends, because it could be Arven like I originally theorized, but that wouldn't make sense since he's named Pepper in japanese. It's more likely that it's written "AREA0". What is your theory ?
@@Oceane1803 hmm..it’s probably area0. if it did say arven though that’d be kinda heartwarming and heartbreaking at the same time, so i like your theory too! it evokes emotion. maybe we’ll find out with dlc
Before it was revealed Arven was healing up mobosstiff, I legit thought he had the other versions legendary, and that he was also healing it up, and that the reason he doesn't like your legendary is that, it was the instigator in a fight that hurt both of them.
The actual story was still good though, definitely the biggest twist since black and white with team plasma, and the timeline split reveal
Edit: Wow, I check back after like a week, and bam over 100 likes, thx everyone!
I thought the same thing two
Personally, before the mobosstiff reveal, I thought Arven was going to be the big bad in the game.
Same! And then i cried at the end XD best Story line i have seen in a game so far
Me too
I kinda have to disagree with the Team Plasma part. Anyone who didn't see BW Team Plasma "twist" coming from a mile away was probably either playing the game with their eyes closed or was a kid during that generation. Ghetsis being evil was almost painfully obvious.
While you almost never speak to Turo or Sada to the point that you really don't know them or their personalities. So them being almost eerily robotic doesn't start to raise eyebrows until they literally glitch out in one of the bases right before it's revealed anyway. Even if you did suspect they were robots, I don't know anyone who would have predicted the originals being dead.
I was legitimately shocked at the revelation about the professor at the end game. This truly was one of the best climaxes in pokemon. I still like black amd whites endgame more but this is a close second.
Yeah, Arven and N had it rough at the end of their stories...
The end broke me. I was crying for professor turo and arven😭
I balled my eyes out violet emotionally broke me
There's something more that still remains mystery. If you go to the school and interact with Arven several times, one of the interaction is Arven shows you the violet book that's in the first floor of the main entrance. Arven will shows you a mysterious page with some letter blacked out. The title most likely called "The Disk Pokemon". You can also read the book again. Also Arven pointing out something peculiar: "Why Heath knows about the past/future pokemon when the time machine was build recently?" Hence why those pokemon is called Paradox Pokemon.
It’s even weirder because some of what the book says is true (like the Donphan paradox and herba mystica), so there’s definitely something we don’t know yet
The machine materialized the drawings and the descriptions (which are mostly made up)
@@lucaxeon4616 I've heard that theory. What is it based on?
@@wikiuser92 the pokedex descriptions for paradox pkms that say that they come out of a Sci-Fi magazine + the books you can read in Area Zero that say that the crystal energy can create our strongest desires + the Suicune/Virizon fusions which are said to be completely made-up + the "time machine" was created after the release of the Scarlet/Violet book
@@lucaxeon4616 I know the book being created earlier than the time machine (that is very obvious), but where's the book talks about the desires bit?
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some future tie in into Pokémon Legends Arceus. That would be PHENOMENAL if they went that route.
So we got UB and Paradox. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
@@Danny328DTOr a paradox of an UB
I loved Sada's design! I'm so sad she was never actually in the game and we can't even see her clone anymore ☹
Sentient A.I. think Star Trek like Data from Star Trek The Next Generation.
I just finished the game. I've been playing pokemon games for years- this is my favorite game. This is the first time I've really enjoyed the story. By the second titan fight I cared about nothing other than saving that dog. By the end of the game I desperately wanted someone to hug Arven. There are a ton of things I really enjoyed too, the character designs, customization, open world, etc.
Same dude. I was really annoyed about the bugs and lags at first but boy did the story make up for that
You know what I think proves these are some of the best stories in pokemon? In this fight, after you beat them the first time and Arven runs in, EVERY person I've seen letsplay has said something along the lines of "Oh no Arven" some even said something like "great, I've gotta tell him" or " I don't want to deal with this."
They were RESPONDING to his character and the plot. That NEVER happens, ESPECIALLY in pokemon, people are to dismissive of the characters. But they and I were so invested it just happened.
I honestly think its the best follow up to Sun and Moon’s climax. Gen 8 was meh but I’m glad Gen 9 was at least interesting.
Also I honestly think there was some sort of build up. I mean at least the professor wasn’t revealed only in the end. Plus there was enough dialogue from the AI professor to know he’s a character in the game so you were at least aware of him. Plus there were books inside the research stations that the OG professor took and in research station 4 the notes he took have a different vibe basically telling us that he went to far into his research and became somewhat crazy and obsessed. Basically he was a mad scientist.
Probably one of the most Goated endings I’ve ever witnessed.
I think us not interacting with the professor and having him as this unknown figure was actually really cool. I was expecting a whole research division in area 0 or something, only to find it aerie and abandoned. I do think we could have had more info about Arvan's past and growing up with the professor as his dad before the "incident" would have made the build-up better compared to interacting with the professor directly
At first I had my doubts about the game due to the various bugs presented throughout the gameplay. Despite this, it’s evident that the game developers did an amazing job with the plot and especially with the character development in this game. In comparison to the other main series games, this is one of the first that allows you to understand the thoughts and feelings of your rivals/ other protagonists of the game. I was shocked at how well this game delivered in a personable manner. Definitely an amazing ending and wonderful plot. It left almost nothing to be desired because of how satisfying and smooth each transition was. One of my favorite main series games by far. 👏 Good job Pokémon!
I suppose it's the "Sonic Frontiers" of Pokémon. Good plot and gameplay thrown off by being rushed and the bugs/performance problems that results from that.
...so would Sword/Shield be "Forces" then?
@@ethanhinton4549 the real question is which Pokemon game can be compared to Sonic '06
"In comparison to the other main series games, this one of the first that allows you to understand the thoughts and feelings of your rivals/ other protagonists of the game". 11-12 years ago, there are these Pokémon Black and White where you got to understand your three rivals' thoughts (Cheren, Bianca and N) and made you think twice if you're playing the game the right or ethical way.
@@ernesielta gen 1 I guess.
BdSP is another possibility. Worse than gen 1, but it has less bugs
Story isn't the developers' job at a company the size of GF.
I think the saddest part about this is that after the AI professor heads to the past/future, they become deactivated indefinitely. Because they need the crystals to survive and the past doesn't contain that and the future has probably advanced to the point were these crystals, something that are astounding today, probably mean nothing to them.
Yea well.... I thought so too actually. Actually originally I thought the Ai was gonna jump off the pillar to unalive itself, I guess this is just the more kidfriendly way to solve it.
No, I think they're good, because the technobabble excuse the game gives in scarlet is about: "The crystals/past mon are full of a primal energy that doesn't exist anymore." It is a very pokemon thing to say to imply that the whole past is filled with this energy, thus, the AI can operate. I played scarlet, but I imagine violet says something like" A futuristic energy runs through these crystals." i.e I'm pretty sure both professors are fine.
Edit: Sorry if that sounds rude, i'm not trying to be.
@@avocadothecat I dunno pokemons been going that way lately lol. (BIG Arceus spoilers here) When you beat Volo, I genuinely forgot what game I was in for a second and thought OH GOD don't jump off the edge.
Didn't think so this game, but still interesting.
@@claran3616 Haha yea, ever since B/W Pokemon got some dark themes going on... well really ever since the beginning with Lavender Town, but it really gets dark and I dunno if I like it. I kinda like Pokemon as that one nice Childrens game where you don't have to worry too much...
@@avocadothecat nah it'll likley stay the same, we're just older and more blood thirsty. Parent issues and the one creepy area have always been in pokemon, and it'll probably stay that way.
4:16 Can confirm. The path of legends was the first one I completed and then I finished both other stories. After that, I was able to go into area zero
I remember reading a comment that theorized that since we saw Koridon/Miradon escape the crater at the very beginning of the game, Sada/Turo had died recently instead of like 10 years ago or something. Since it's mentioned that our legendary fled after the fight that killed the professor, and we see it leaving at the beginning, the attack happened like-half an hour before we start our journey.
Meaning if Pokémon wasn't rated E for everyone, we would've at least parts of the professor's corpse in that destroyed research lab since I doubt the AI version of the professor would let the wild Pokémon outside feast on their flesh.
All the stories were so sad. Nemona alone at the top, and no one to keep up with her. Penny's group being bullied and only wanted to stand up for themselves, only to find out that the bullies backed down. Arven, being alone with his only friend slowly dying. The whole game hit me hard, especially Arven's, since I did lose my cat. Thankfully, it was because of old age, but still.
I loved that the AI was good and the professor was evil- that's a great inversion of the AI replacing trope and they did it well. Still making the AI a boss through overriding their programming was genius. I just wish they terrastilized their paradox ace plus the item for a real threat, after all it was their invention and they have records of all of Paldea's champions who all should use terrastilization, at least within the 10 years or so of the invention
The professor Terastillizes themselves though so... Kinda happened?
You do need to complete the other story lines to embark on the way home path
Yes yo do, I needed penny and Namona to do it
This is definitely one of the best story’s I’m Pokémon this is the first time I really cared about the rivals and some of the other characters and the story actually almost got some tears from me a few times if the glitches and graphics where better and some voice acting on cutscenes this would definitely be 10/10
Knowing Koraidon's and Miraidon's descendent and ancestor as Cyclizar. I can't really consider those two as legendary. In their time line, I bet there are a lot of them. So can they be considered legendary or just Paradox form?
I think both!
While they are legends in terms of game mechanics, I think they’re considered the strongest of the paradoxes. Similar to how the paradox forms have higher stats than their modern counterparts (except the pseudos)
Birds are technically dinosaurs/descendants of dinosaurs but without the same size and strength. Maybe Cyclizar is more like a distant relative like birds.
@@soulessENERGY Hmm... Many of the regional bird Pokémon are part normal somewhere in their line. Maybe that's why Cyclizar is part normal instead of Fire or Electric. Koraidon is part Fire right? I have Violet, so I'm not sure.
I personally don't consider them 'legendary' cause I think to be a legendary, you have to be part of a 'legend' and as far as I know there aren't legends of them in Paldea? Unless 'legends' of Area Zero count, but that'd make all Paradox Pokemon legendaries.
This story hit me right in the feels. I was not prepared for that from a Pokémon game.
Professor Turo/Sada was definitely a professor but is not THE professor of this generation. It's actually headmaster Clavell because he's the one giving you your first Pokémon and sends you on your way. Even though the biology teacher made the pokedex app, you didn't get it from him personally but from Nemona and Clavell. You also usually meet your rival sometime when you interacted with the main professor and got your first Pokémon. In this case you meet Nemona while Clavell is around. In addition, every generation of Pokémon had the main professor be named after a plant of some sort I believe. In this generation, Clavell is the one to continue the tradition. Everyone else doesn't. Even though Turo and Sada were advertised as being the main professors in trailers and stuff, it was probably more of an attempt to confuse everyone on who the villain truly is, as all story paths featured characters with the potential of becoming the villain.
However, all this doesn't change how awesome the fight against AI Turo/Sada was. The music was a banger too.
The professors are actually named after trees specifically, not plants. Oak, Elm, Birch, Rowan, etc. Most other Pokémon characters are named after plants, especially flowers.
So this is the first Pokémon game that has no regional professor named after a tree. Clavell is the director of the academy and Jacq is a teacher.
But Clavell does play the role closest to your typical regional professor like the previous games, you’re 100% right there. He’s actually one of my favorites.
@@komarunaegi7460 These professors are named after the past and future in spanish instead of trees. “Pasada” as Sada and “Futuro” as Turo
Yup, Clavell is a plant name! Specifically, when spelled with one less "l" as "clavel", it is the Spanish name for carnation, the national flower of Spain.
As someone who lost a beloved Chihuahua back in September on the 25th this year, Path Of Legends hit me right in the feels, if Mabosstiff died, I would've been too sad to continue. I'm glad Mabosstiff was ok in the end. I'm glad Arven had a good ending. I play Pokémon to have fun happy times, not be sad. But, Path Of Legends hit so close to home. I even named my Houndstone after my dog. I'm tearing up typing this.
Same. We lost my dachshund to cancer on Sept 27. This hit close to home. Glad mabosstiff got a good ending
@@KCatRodeo Agreed.
personally i think the fact there was no prior buildup to the professor fight worked in its favor. it's something i never saw coming until i actually arrived there and was a huge payoff for me
it definitely hit a dark chord with arvens dad. that was unexpected. very memorable story
Fun fact: Professor Sada/Turo rather blatantly hints that they're not who they say they are as soon as you chat with them at their Poco Lighthouse lab.
If you weren't paying attention, you wouldn't realise that the professors were talking about themselves in third-person.
This whole story was a roller-coaster of emotions, most of those emotions were sadness. And ask for the finale, there's not enough therapy that will make this situation ok for Arven. Poor kid.😢
I find it funny how this game tried to pull at your heart strings. You have this ending, the ending with Arven and Mabosstif, and the ending with Penny and team star; then you have Nemona and her whole yandere-lite personality
Considering this is the first time the real professor is never there in the game, we get to explore a new uncharted area with Pokemon from the past/future, and we get to use our own legendary in battle without having to catch it, I'd say this was a top tier climax to the main story of Pokemon Scarlet and Violet
Crazy is an understatement this is one of the most memorable Pokémon climax as I’ve seen in a long time
My boi Arven needs a hug! Such a shame he didn't get one...
Other than that, I think the way the Professor interacted with us before the true ending was a very subtle forshadowing. It never really felt like they actually responded to us like we we're having a conversation. It always was just say what they had to say and maybe give us our next mission.
Everything felt off and very scripted.
I suspected earlier that maybe they just prerecorded messages, but then they did respond to questions.
Also before I unlocked the final lock to the lab, when I was asked to do it I just noticed the journals of the Professor. I like how it's implied that this Professor is a clone at first, when in actuallity they're an AI.
For the story as a whole,
I understand now why so many people want voice acting.
The Story is mega sweet! Easily one of my favourite Pokémon stories ever. Voice acting would've add a great new emotional layer to everything. (Though I didn't like how Penny and Arven insulted each other almost the whole time)
Penny and Arven are both not used to social interaction and bickering like that was the best way they could get along.
@@tranatkikomi6873 you're right
@@tranatkikomi6873 y sin embargo al final ellos quedan en buenos términos y se hacen amigos ya que Penny le da unas palabras de aliento después de que el profesor de la versión se fuera en la máquina del tiempo y el le agradece, creo que esa fue una gran lección ya que la amistad es más fuerte que las diferencias
Can confirm that you need to complete the other 2 storylines before going to area zero, since I finished victory road after path of legends, and as soon as I beat Nemona in the final bout in Mesagoza Arven called me congratulating me on finding those "strong allies" and asking me to come to the Zero Gate.
I just can't beilve how far pokemon has come. Arceus was test for an open world pokemon game with elements that evolved into S&V. And the 3 story lines was such a unique twist.. This truly was one of the most heartouching pokemon games in recent years
Many people say Gen 5 and Gen 7 have good stories between N wanting to free pokemon and Lusamine being an abusive mother so her kids try to stop her. I'd say this sits alongside them in being really good stories.
If the performance was better this game could have easily been 10/10. It just needed another year or two in the development oven.
I've noticed that the latest Odd numbered generations have good stories compared to the Even numbered generations.
The story in Scarlet/Violet is my all time favorite. I've been waiting for a mainline Pokemon game to have this kind of story telling and didn't think it was possible after what we got in Sword/Shield and the Ultra Remakes. Black/White, Black/White 2, and the original Sun/Moon came close, but just didn't resonate as well for me.
The fact Arven's team's level spikes so hard, the game is basically designed, like GF made this purposeful, to make the player finish the other two story paths to even have the levels to beat him without grinding ridiculously.
It honestly makes sense because I doubt it would feel natural to open the lab, have the request, and have Arven ask who to invite when we would have no attachment to Nemona or knowledge of Penny in the first place
I was determined to beat him up, and so I actually ended up beating him 8 leveled underleveled by planning out the battle meticulously, only for him to say "nah man you arent strong enough go become a champion"
That's when I realized that oh, maybe I did that out of order...
Lol I fought him at like 5 gyms and 3 star bases. I completely did not expect him to be so high leveled, but it was probably one of the most fun parts of the game because it was the most challenging.
Leave it to these pokemon games to actually make you want to hug a person you preceived as a jerk.
This ending/story utterly dominates B/W’s and Sun/Moon’s ending/story, no contest, no debate
What I find really interesting and what makes this possibly the final showdown of any other game in the series is the lack of an actual villain. Sure, you do fight something, but it's not a person. It's a program that's used to protect the time machine. The professor is long dead and all that remains are their ideals, which are carried by the opposing A.I. Also, unless I'm misremembering, didn't they say they could only stay operable so long as the crystals that made up the time machine remained within range? If so, that means Professor A.I probably stopped functioning after entering the rift or reaching the past/future. Maybe I'm missing something though.
Pokemon finally feels like it got the stakes right. The world-threatening villain was growing stale by Gen 3, though Gen 5 at least flipped the trope on its head by making N sympathetic. Gen 9 has no villain, but the world also isn't really threatened. Yeah, Paldea would get a bit more hectic if the paradox forms kept coming through, but it's the type of thing four kids and their pokemon could reasonably handle on their own. So it feels way more natural than when, in Gen 8, the villain suddenly goes nuclear and a 10-year-old for some reason is the world's only hope.
@@bradigan this is what I’ve looked for. The biggest issue about the Pokémon games is thinking about them a bit. “why is a child able to take on literal god” and whatnot. However here it’s honestly reasonable. Arven, Penny, and Nemona’s backgrounds are all ones that’d get them pretty far as trainers. The player is just the average prodigy. They are all strong but not “Take on the literal god of the sea” strong. And it shows, this isn’t a battle with a legendary against the big bad. This is a battle against a misled man’s will overpowering a machine. This is a battle against a normal Pokémon, just from the past or future. Paldea’s ecosystem’s at stake but that feels very reasonable as opposed to the time machine killing everything. People would honestly be willing to trust 4 prodigies here in the world of Pokémon.
@@TheLarryDungeon Exactly! I still think the story could have been a little better. I have problems with how Game Freak likes to limit every character to a single character trait. But the great premise made the issues I usually have less glaring, and I found myself actually caring about lore this time around.
@@bradigan and the way the characters bounce off one another also helped remedy that a bit. When Penny tries comforting Arven it really felt like someone who’s less social trying their best to help. When Nemona wants to get everyone hyped it truly FEELS like she understands the pain, she feels it, and she wants to fix it her way. And Arven’s performance is great too I love how he just feels human to me. I pray to every god there is that this becomes the start of game freak actually trying to fix themselves. If they just learn from their mistakes for once they could make an amazing game with reasonable stakes. If they want outlandish gods then maybe make the trainer much older and whatnot.
i think it functions only in presence of tera crystals. in the final battle the tera crystals grow onto the AI's lower body so it should be able to survive
Just think about it Arven lost his Mother to the past and his Dad to the future and we only read about the oposite parent in the books in the las reasearch lab. 😔
And knowing how Time Maschines work I feel bad for the Childvin LA now. But to be fair the setup looks a lot like that time traveling is linked to Arceus somehow and we probably get a dlc.
Best story by a country mile despite the very few performances issues I hade
Just finished. I immediately could tell something was off once the prof requested that we shut down those 4 locks in order to enter the lab and that there would be dangerous Pokémon that would come outside of it. Like what? Screw you man! LoL
Such a tearjerker twist from Team Star to Arven. But there’s still alot unknown about the history of the machine and the paradox pokemons. From the notes in stations are still stories what really happened down there in Area Zero. Very interesting to know more.
This is a total side note but I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who has that random pokeball. I’m sure it’s some sort of glitch but glad to know it wasn’t just me
Area Zero reminds me of the Abyss from made in abyss and thats WONDERFUL.
Also Turo is hot af xD
I thought the same
SAME!!!!!
Edit: Sada is hot too
Ikr?
Even the song sounds like itll fit with made in abyss
YESSSSS
After finishing Violet, and being an avid player of Pokemon Masters EX, I can already picture how DeNA is going to bring AI Turo and Sada into the mobile game. While they're in the future/past, they'll eventually get warped to Pasio via Hoopa's power and wonder if they've been sent to the future/past.
But oh gosh, if Arven also makes it into Masters EX by that time, I can imagine how their interactions may play out. A very bittersweet moment, I'm sure.
Hello fellow Masters EX fan 👀
All I was thinking during the final battle was “ULTRA MEGALOPOLIS”
Sun and Moon was my first game, easily the best, and this battle just brought back those amazing memories lol.
What I'm curious now is that in one of the books in one of tbe reasearch buildings , it says, "Well, depending on which game you got, I got scarlet . After the boy was born, he left ." So I know the professors are both his parents, but only one is apparently still technically out there ? Will the other parent show up in dlc or just kinda ends there ?
Probably nothings gonna come of the missing parent. I don't think pokemon could handle that and it'd just be weird story wise.
Thanks for the video! I was going to skip these but after hearing the ending, it sounds like it's totally worth a playthrough!
I hope the DLC will take us to the past/future to meet the professor again.
The only clue during the whole Path of Legend that something was off was that the professor's dialogue is very to-the-point and that they do not even have breathing animations; they stand there stiff as a board.
I have been playing since the Red/Blue days. I was in the thick of it when Pokemon first took the world by storm! I'm 37 years old now. This is the first time a Pokemon game actually made me feel deep or bittersweet emotions. Would it be safe to say that glitches or bugs aside, this may actually be the best Pokemon game ever made so far?
The moment at 5:03 when Iron Bundle walks in and the Sergeant Hartman voice clip plays in the background was really funny for some reason.
Imagine GameFreak doing the DLC where the professors actually live but they’re from another universe; where the protagonist and his/her friends go to the DLC island where that island is just the past/future and the professors get saved by them. Kind of like the butterfly effect/chaos theory or even probability theory.
I can’t believe they killed off the reason why I bought violet😭
The way home is very unnerving for the first time, but gets worse when you think that Arven, before Penny and Nemona get involved, fights you, even with a recovering Pokémon, showing he may still fear Area Zero and is still fighting to avoid it, even with his parent down there, even with the answers he’s wanted.
I always thought that Arven’s interest in cooking came about because no one else was there to make food for him, and that he had to provide for himself.
That's what I thought and it's genuinely so sad to think about
Listen. I- all I ask. One thing: All I want is to give Arven a flipping hug. Please 😭
I have never, ever cried in a damn pokémon game before, why you gotta do this to me, Game Freak?! I was so not prepared for this
Mabosstiff reminded me of my dog at this time last year. He wasn't well starting on the 23rd. But he was worse on Christmas Eve. I thought I was going to lose him. The vets were closed so I had no way of getting him help. He was weak, soiling himself, refusing to eat or drink. But, Christmas Day, it was like he suddenly started to regain his strength throughout the day. By the end of it, his energy was back up, he was eating and drinking on his own, he wasn't slipping off my bed, he was...basically back to normal. And I cried and hugged him so much in relief because the restless nights I'd had the days prior, just me patting him and trying to coax him to have a little water and sobbing the whole time he barely lifted his head really had me convinced I was losing him.
He's still here and now he reminds me of Mabosstiff for another reason. They both have that toothy grin and big, sad eyes.
One thing i'd like to see is how the group grows as a team. Maybe we find out that Nemona is descended from a Champion like Adler and maybe Arven lives with you at your house since he doesn't have one. I'd also love more adventures in area Zero maybe teaming up with the Rangers from the ranger games.
The use of the “HO-LEE JEEZUS” sound bite had me rolling.
😂
This is honestly the best writing Pokemon has ever seen. I say this because it's pure genius and most people haven't caught the depths of the foreshadowing yet. To briefly explain: There are hints throughout Area Zero that the Disk Legendary (the third one) can mess with people's minds. When the AI Professor got mind-controlled by the system...that was foreshadowing what happened to the REAL professor. This evil creature drove him mad so he would forget all about his kid and do what it wanted. The AI professor didn't have the insanity. That's why he still loved his son! And that's why I strongly believe that Sada and Turo are actually victims. They weren't bad people at all...
That's one way of putting it but I think it was because of the professors obsession with their research that drove them mad and what fot ghem killed! Who knows perhaps it was this secret third legendary and we'll probably get our answers in the DLC hopefully!
@@jdx4527 Like I said, the Third Legendary is what caused the obsession. How else do you explain the AI---a perfect copy of the professor's desires---feeling so different about what they did? I'll tell you why: It's because a robot can't go mad. Thus the AI shows who they really were without the madness. Nowhere is that clearer when they speak to Arven. "Look how big you've grown..."
mabostiff hits your gut right in the feels
That also answers the idea of the player character in pokemon legends even tho hinted at being ultra worm hole related they never got to go back to the timeline and probably grew old/died in the past sending her or his blood line into a circle of geting cut at that point she was throwing into the past on repeat till somehow its broken or something food for thought there
I literally had chills of excitement throughout the entirety of the area zero journey. Especially during the PPP when it was building up to only being able to use moraidon and once he came out the gang cheered him on. Finish that off with that banger of an end credits and song and I give it a 11/10🤌🏻
I can confirm you need to do the other two paths as I completed Arven's path before becoming champion.
I finished the Path of Legends first, you do need to finish the other two before moving on to area zero
This was by far the best Pokémon ending ever Area Zero was amazing and you were correct very creepy I don’t think I like an future where most Pokémon are turn into robots I don’t want that too be canon. The battle with the AI professor was epic I wanna do it again.
If Arven doesn't get a happy ending in the DLC we riot
Me casually clicking on this video and all the sudden realizing this is VGMarkis
tbh this has to be one of my favorite pokemon games story wise. it was really cool to have the big bad of the game be the professor than just a evil team leader. and the fact that the evil team wasn't that bad and didn't have to bad intentions, like distorting/taking over the would. tho, it would have been cool if there where more hints to the professor being an ai. it was also really interesting because we learned that humans cant travel back to there og time when they have traveled to a different time, which opined a bunch of possibilities and theory's, and helped explain what happened at the end of legends
Did anyone else notice that the slot that the book goes into for the time machine is shaped like the backside of an original Gameboy?
Honestly my first game was sword and it was exciting I thought wow Pokémon is definitely awesome I’ve been missing out all these years but this game the end like I was just in absolute awe this was amazing I love sword but wow this games ending was on a whole new level it actually felt like if I lost it actually mattered
I hope or at least wish we get a dlc where we can go to a different timeline, catch and see some other paradox Pokémon with Koraidon/Miraidon in the past/future, and maybe get to see AI Sada/Turo just one more time! Like…AI certainly wasn’t something I would’ve thought we would’ve touched on in Pokémon, and I feel that they took this story to lengths Sun & Moon could’ve only hoped to with the Aether Family. Like, remember how Lillie & Gladion got Lusamine back in SuMo, but she was sickly after fusing with Nihilego as the Mother Beast? She came back, and in USUM we saw Lusamine get some closure with Mohn when he didn’t remember her. And then of course their family reunited in the anime and got a happy ending. But Arven gets a fraction of that. He gets some closure, sure, but his only parent is still dead in the game’s final hour, and it wasn’t a quick or painless way to go I’m sure.
We’re told in the tutorial phases of most Pokémon games the worry of going into tall grass without a partner Pokémon as a means of self defense, and for Sada or Turo to go out protecting our legendary from the attack of a 2nd one, they most likely got maimed…and left to bleed out under the debris on the left side of the 4th Research Station. They die a cold, and lonely death in one of the deepest parts of Area Zero, in the crystallized cavern of the Great Crater, far away from civilization, and with too little strength to even crawl to one of the now inactive machines, to put out an s.o.s. Chances are, they died in the first hours of the game, cuz WE SEE Koraidon/Miraidon flee from the Crater in the intro movie before they crash on the beach…That’s likely following the incident where it flees from the other of its kind, with just the chilling memory of the professor’s recent death in its mind. I imagine as it collapsed on the beach, Sada/Turo took their final breath as well…
Second paragraph got me hella emotional 😭
Nos dieron la mejor historia 😢fue muy conmovedora! Lo mejor de este juego y la cancion del ending 🎉
The ending actually made me cry a little it's been a long time sense a pokemon game has been able to do that
I completed Path of Legends second. Can confirm you need to complete Victory Road and Starfall Street first because the prerequisite is to gather 3 allies.
Did anyone else think that the AI professor killed or locked the original professor somewhere? Because that’s what I thought 💀😭 The AI profs were the good professors afterall
Lol I also thought the AI betrayed the real professor
The plotline actually had me on te edge of my seat, this is one of the best storylines pokemon has ever made for sure
Well, originally they first games had Prof. Oak as a last challenger, same with how Red was somehow the last challenge for Johto. Then I think they abandoned the trend of giving extra final bosses after the main campaign was complete (?)
Can we get Arven a fucking hug like...NOW?
It's funny how we get a game with a time machine right after the game that had us be thrown in the past. Makes me wonder if the next game is going to take us back to the future...
Probably the pokemon game ending that feels the most like a pokemon movie, which always had wayy better storylines
Another thing about the paradox pokemons and the box legendaries is how they don't appear in the other version of the game lorewise, making it really strange
It’s kind of implied the entity in area zero might be creating the paradox pokémon based on what the respective Pokémon is obsessed with
I finished the titan questline first, and yes, you have to finish the other two as well before Arven calls you to tell you the location of the gate.
that aside though, the whole AI thing kinda took me by surprise, ngl. Been dedicated Pokémon game fan since the Let's Go games (though I've been watching the anime since I was a kid), and I have to say, the ending in Area Zero was probably the best one yet.
every step of this game, i was blown away at how far pokemon has come since its first the original Red/Blue
yep it got worse
"save the world. my final message. i bid you adieu" Leaves without giving literally any closure at all to Arven lmao
Honestly the Area Zero, reminds me of the abyss from Made in Abyss
Really enjoyed playing this game just finished playing just now! Man what a game love it so much the end was sooo ..... didn't expect this at all. I mean was putting it piece to piece...but man not going to lie not bad.
Pkmn dev saw smt5 sales + labrea: write that down
I honestly can't wait to see this in the anime