Micah Richards explains why Roy Keane and Ian Wright are great football pundits | BBC Sounds
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Micah Richards explains why Roy Keane and Ian Wright are great football pundits | BBC Sounds
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Who is the best pundit in the game?
Obviously roy keane cause he's not a spoofer
Not sure who the best is, but the worst, by a long long way, is Jamie Redknapp. He's clueless. Keown, Murphy, Clinton Morrison are all also completely and utterly dreadful.
wrighty for me. i think everyone loves him, even spurs fans
Anyone who is there on merit and not a diversity hire.
Michael Owen, Paul Merson and Scholesy!!
Don't let micah richards jolly nature distract you from how intelligent and perceptive he is
Roy Keane is my favourite, especially after a Man United loss
Right on đ
âEveryone was too angryâŠâ so right! Micah brings a great energy and POV. Love watching him.
i love micah's take on wrighty and a different way of doing punditry from a lighter angle.
We need more people like Micah in this world. Guy is such a great soul :)
A Karan that likes black people and wants to see more... what multi-verse are you from?
Love Roy and Michas relationship, Ive seen Roy go from here to Forest to my team utd and as far as I can see Micha has definitely brought out the humorous side we all knew Roy had but on screen and who would of thought Roy would ever do social media videos there very funny together, Micha just laughs when Roy's been serious luv that..
Micah is so right about people will blindly back the pundit with the better career. That being said heâs such a breath of fresh air
Breath of fresh air? Havenât heard that one before. Let me guess, you like his laugh too. Also he mentioned that thing about the career because heâs probably insecure about his position based on his own career. Heâs box ticking for network executives. You think all these platforms using holes and brothers as pundits etc wasnât by design..
@@LHBH8 did you want me to use another phrase? Will I get more marks? Iâm not saying heâs not being box ticked, all Iâm saying is I enjoy more of a personality when Iâm listening to pundits speak. Heâs still achieved more than 99% of the world in terms of football so heâll know what heâs talking about .
@@Do27gg You could have a non league player and theyâll have achieved and no more than the 99.9% of the world about football. Media has overdone it with the brothers and especially the women. They just copied the American model, itâll only get worse, ESPN over there constantly talking about race and politics. Theyâve dipped their toe into that here and it will only increase over time.
Low IQ, low impulse control.
He is the worst pundit
In terms of pure analysis... Arsenal Wenger is by far the best at it and the most interesting to listen to. He truly gives common listeners a perspective of football that they would never come to know by themselves.
he's excellent to listen to. obviously extremely intelligent and sharp but funny as well.
Does Wenger still do it? I remember when him and Jose were pundits together on some show for a few months 3 or 4 years ago it was brilliant to listen to
@@barry4649 that was great stuff. I think he does select international tournaments for itv and bein. ill always remember "quelle audace" at the zidane panenka in wc 2006.
@@barry4649 think he does the english language broadcast in france.
Mourinho better
Over the years there has been too many pundits that sit on the fence. Too many Yes men. Roy Keane says it as it is and doesn't sit on the fence. He's witty and obviously has the career to back up his opinion. Best pundit out there by a country mile
Keane is just brutally honest. He says as he sees it he's not too analytical or pauses the game draws lines or over explains things. He just cuts through the b/s and says it honestly without the bells and whistles
Fair, but a lot of us appreciate what you can actually learn from the bells and whistles, from a tactical perspective. I donât get too much value from aggressive subjectivity, it is entertaining though
@@brandonsamuelshort9776 That's why we need different pundits working together. If it's only tactical analysis - it becomes boring. If it's only funny - people will start asking for analysis. It should be mix of everything.
@@perakojot5628 agreed
I love that from pundits, they're just expressing themselves. I will say, Keane is brutally honest about his opinions, he is serious about football and about the competition - But he isn't an angry hard-ass, he knows when to lighten up and doesn't take his role as a pundit overly seriously. He likes to have a laugh and enjoy football as a pundit/ spectator, and I feel like that makes the whole of his personality as a pundit really likeable.
Roy Keane garners respect and makes you pay attention thatâs why heâs a good pundit , regardless of heâs digging someone out or praising someone you listen and heâs 99.999999 percent right... Wrighty, shearer the same you respect the opinions and with wrighty itâs the wholesome respect. He says a lot of positive and heâs got the passion. Shearers from my generation of footballers so I remember adoring the man so he gets my respect that way and heâs always talked the business and you know heâs talking sense. Each one has their own opinions. The worst one in my book is Souness. Heâs past now and should have been moved on and same with Rio heâs always making the punditry about himself and itâs just not what you want to hear. Itâs like he thinks people will forget about him so heâs constantly talking about the teams he played in and the players he played with or against.
Bang on. I love when keane and Wright are on together. Often, they have conflicting opinions, but both have the utmost respect for each others opinions they were both top class. Both are my favourites, along with the old rte panel of Dunphy, Giles, Brady and Bill O'Herlihy đ simply for the Craic that was in it.
You are spot on mate đđđ
I agree but wanted to add that it might be Rioâs lack of comfort in front of the tv camera and a need to kind of prove why heâs there among some of the legends he watched growing up. Food for thought đ
Of all the pundits Roy is the only one who doesn't care if people like him or not. Unfortunately he is in danger over time of becoming a caricature of himself.
Sherar is right in his view on that. But then being popular does not always equate being right (which is part of whatâs wrong with the community nowadays). Tifo has a lot of followers because of their analysis and they donât do content that is provocative or controversial
Agree that Tifo is really good
Tifo is where itâs at âđ»
Well there was that podcast where they denied the holocaust ever happened. Thatâs pretty controversial.
I absolutely love tifo
Shearer having to grit his teeth to praise Keane.... haha
Wenger the best! He talks about psychology of a footballer, analysis of the game. Very thoughtful, respectful of the game
But his delivery is interminable. Part of being a pundit is delivery and the ability to engage. Wenger is unenthused, and his command of English is the same as when he first arrived.
micah is so on the ball here. he doesn't say it outright but he mentions elements of how you have to find your role and it's a team effort. It's why their panel of Henry, Carragher, Micah and Kate works so well. each one has their strengths and they balance and complement each other to bring out the best of those strengths - it's not a debate, sometimes you have a devils advocate, but when someone is making a point but hasn't explained it well enough or has missed an angle, one of others will ask a question that is an assist for the first person to elaborate rather than disputing or interrupting to make the point themselves.
Keane is brutally honest and thatâs refreshing rather than pundits kissing asses.
He tells it likes he sees it
I so want to see Keane & Shearer on a pod
Gary great to have you back
great discussion đ
Micha putting Roy as his #1 â€
Love these guys they bring the match to my day match of the day đđ€Łâșïžđ€©
Micah is the best... seriously love his laugh..
Fair play to Shearer, I know him and Roy donât like each other, but that was a very fair assessment from him respect đ
The best way I realised how football (and any elite sport) is about handling pressure was watching some of the stuff players do in training or in challenges. Watching England cricketers hitting a ball into dustbins 50yds away time sfter time after time or footballers hitting crossbars/scoring penalties/aceing shooting challenges was amazing...even doing simple stuff is difficult when the pressure is on! Pundits will always struggle to get some fans to understand the effect pressure has on players.
I really like Micah Richards. Very honest man
I seem to remember Alan Hansan having a Keano type reputation prior to social media. He wasn't only famous for the "win nothing with kids" line he was also generally inpolite enough to get a point across that registered with viewers.
If the question is Who is the best pundit then the answer is the most honest. I'd say Righty in his earlier pundit career.
People seem to forget there were way more high engagement newspapers and critics based on football then, so many magazines etc and they would be brutal on some players
My issue with cable TV punditry is that most of these guys get paid big money to give their view from the very unique point of actually have been a footballer but their mid game and post game analysis comes down to key words like "passion", "aggression", "tactical nous" etc. Which pretty much anyone who knows football or not can say. If a team plays attacking, possession-dominated football, they don't analyze, they just label it "tiki taka" and "park the bus" if they play the opposite. If there was actual in-depth analysis on strategy and tactics, so much of what you see on the pitch in terms of player behavior and team performance can properly be explained. Yes, we can bring up how difficult it would be to make this analysis in real time immediately after a game but isn't that why studios hire former pros and pay them ÂŁÂŁÂŁÂŁ
Completely agree - their analysis is so skin-deep and reliant on clichés. I read a book on football tactics and learned more in the first 5 pages than I've done in 15 years of watching sky sports and match of the day
Micah has added a new dimension, it's made viewers look at the collective more than it ever was. He's made it more entertaining. Keane is a loose cannon, gives it an edge. Now that Lawrenson has gone, they are all pretty good, the women aren't. People say "they've played in stadiums, won cups etc" but then so have the mens U21s. I think it's important to have played at a high enough level where you have sources in the dressing room, understand the pressures & media scrutiny.
Diversity quotas
Only fax spoken here
Don't agree. When I watch female pundits, I'm always struck by how much more tactically astute and eloquent they are compared to male pundits. And I say this as someone who has 0% interest in watching women's football.
Punditry since 95? My gosh how old is gary he looks so young
Eh, who on earth would actually consider Shearer as a circumspect and incisive pundit? Apart from he himself clearly.....
Agreed
Micah is gold
4:05 I think witty is pushing it a bit Big Meeks đ
You can get statistics and analysis at the click of a button. I think that was Shearer's initial point - anyone can present you with facts and figures of how a game went. Personally, what I want to see is someone cutting through the stats and sharing the wisdom of their experience.
Keano stands alone in his ability to cut through the BS, give a frank and honest appraisal of a player or team's efforts and accomplishments, and he is also very funny. He also knows himself and recognises his own limitations, which I also think is a mark of a great pundit. I find him the most measured, consistent, and 'on point' of all the pundits. Always want to hear his views on a game. He also calls out the BS of his fellow pundits which is needed. He's a born leader on and off the pitch.
Shearer is so right I love Roy Keane but he's not really much of an analyst everything always comes back to passion, professionalism and doing the basics. But I think thats also a good thing because it simplifies the game and exemplifies who he was as a player not the most technically gifted but a hard worker that didn't have any glaring weaknesses
Roy Keane isn't analytical?? And Alan Shearer supposedly is?? I think some people confuse analysis for talk about tactics and formations.
Keane is very analytical when it comes to which defender is responsible for doing what in a given situation. And I think great managers do the same. How many times has Mourinho fallen out with players who could not do their assigned task in his system?
People should not confuse Keane's intensity and digging individuals out with a lack of analysis or just being there to create drama. Keane's comments are focused on doing specific jobs, and that presumes analysis.
Meanwhile there are plenty of commentators who talk tactics based on players' reputations, but then fail to call out the players when they are the reason that the tactics failed. Or they criticize players in general terms only. By contrast Keane is ruthlessly specific in his criticisms of players, great or small, who fail to execute the tactical plan.
Carragher ia the best for me. Monday night football is the most tactical insight u can get in any football game
Roy keane is the best...
Even as a United fan I love Micah as a pundit.
The highest recommended video for me under this one is âRoy Keane best tik toksâ, which I think pretty much proves Alanâs point.
Keane is ruthless and so raw đđ
Roy keane is a man of the people and wont lie about anything he will say things as they are. And analyses the game very well. You dont need to act like its A level maths. Im glad micah richards stuck up for Roy Keane then. Micah I respect him alot and has done very well at bursting on to the scene of punditry :) haha
i've always thought roy's more of an entertainer. especially in today's society where tearing someone down is celebrated. glad to see others share the same view.
Used to be Gary Neville in 2011 when he first started MNF not sure now
Yes online didn't exist but that doesn't mean people didn't have those same impressions and opinions. A person might think Shearer talked a lot of bollocks but could only tell that to their mates in the pub. Now you can tweet it directly to him.
Roy Keane and Henry are top of the tree
Henry???? He's brutally bad đ
So good to see gary lineker
Keane is box office but when you boil it down, it's essentially the frustrated fan digging out his own team when they don't win. It's basically Arsenal Fan TV in the last years of Wenger tbh. His answer is you are only losing because you don't want it hard enough and you have to become a thug and start lashing out to show ''passion'' if you are getting outplayed. There's NOTHING tactical about it at all.
I don't particular rate Shearer for his insight but he does try to inform the viewing public something important that happened in the actual game that just took place and does sometimes make a good point. Most of it basic, i.e., praising a Dyche team for 2 banks of 4 and being tight defensively but something he does stumble upon a good bit of analysis over how a team tactically outmaneuvered the opposition.
A thug wtf you on about juventus 99 wheres the thug. Thats why he wins stuff and your armchair pundit. At Highest level you get bullied if you cant defend youself
And it's not that Roy Keane can't go into detail. He probably chooses not to as his emotional side takes over.
I hate the BBC but this, like much of MOTD, is brilliant, love it. A commentator segment would be good - the most important men in the game!
I like most of the recent English pundits, but they're not allowed to call out the corruption and so-called 'positive racism' in player selection and pundit-hype that goes on all the time.
The best footballing brain I've ever seen as a pundit, by far, is Glenn Hoddle. He's simply a footballing genius, and a perfect example of 'saying what the viewer can't see'.
Of the younger ones, Jermaine Jenus has a good brain and is very likeable. As is Micah, and Gary Neville, Carragher and McManaman.
Paul Scholes, while pretty much always being my favourite footballer of all time, is still a bit conformist, sort of giving others the benefit of the doubt and not speaking against much in the decline of Manchester Utd. It also annoys me a bit when a presenter asks him or someone else after a match "What went wrong?" and they go "Yeah, I dunno". Makes me think, well... don't give them their cheque just yet. Let's have them work for it a bit.
Still, the most important thing is that the Scots don't do it. So long as we don't have to watch or hear ignorant, opinionated Scots talking rubbish about a league based in England and supported by Englishmen, we're always gonna be at least half way there.
Oh yeah and I know he was a mercenary with no club loyalty so he's unpopular, but Michael Owen is actually really decent.
This guy gets fashion advice from Kevin heart
for me gary and jaimie are the best by a country mile
I think Roy can be overly critical sometimes which is not great for the snowflake footballers we have currently however, I do believe that most of the time hes not wrong since he speaks from the heart and puts himself in the shoes of the players and what is expected of them as a professional.
A good example is when Pogba didn't track back and the other pundits were defending him and Roy was like no I dont buy that "Its 5 yards!" You throw your life for that jersey.
I think he comes from a time where football was looked at it that way where you play with your heart on your sleeve.
There are still players like that today but lets be honest the younger generation probably more talented and fit lack just that extra club pride.
Over critical is just that....over critical. That's not a good thing, roy keane.for the past is entertaining however he can't see beyond his own point forever being rite which it most certainly.wasnt with regards to ronaldo.
England never heard of Eamonn Dunphy, he made keno look like he was sitting on the fence
Pundits punditing punditry
Keane talks like managers talk in the dressing room. He talks about which defender was responsible for giving up the goal and which player isnât giving enough.
Thatâs analysis.
I disagree with their idea that Keane is focusing on controversies and not analysis. Keane is focused on what is most important in the match whereas a lot of pundits can only talk in generalities and fail to confront the issues which Keane is quick to call out.
Has Alan Shearer ever provided insight
How brave of a black guy like Lineker so share such personal stuff with us
Shearer always bitter when it comes to Keane & vice versa sadly. Theyâd be great together.
Ian Rush should be a pundit in early 2000s...
Lol good debate â€
Roy doesn't do analysis? WTF!!!!!
Talking about throwing punches to De Gea and Maguire,is that the analysis?
My problem with a lot of the former players who are now pundits is that a lot of them find it hard to be unbiased and, thus, objectively call the game. I enjoy Micah, for example. His energy and the relationship that he has with Roy is entertaining. However, I cannot listen to Micah when he calls City games.
Scholes. Hes calm, doesnt beat round the bush n objective. Tbh BBC's pundits is way more objective than ESPN's. Lots of double standard used in ESPN. They always belittle their own team when they are scared.
I want pundits to tell it how it is regardless. If a player is shocking say it
Shout out Keys & Grey
Andy Gray is still the most insightful pundit I've ever seen in terms of showing me things I would never have spotted myself, and he also had incredible passion for the game. Richard Keys was just a chimp in a suit though, no talent at all.
Roy Keane is quickly becoming a caricature of himself
Gary is beginning to resemble Jimmy Hill
You can understand football very well, without ever have had kicked a ball
Humans are humans, and sports especially team sports are based on human beings, and if people understand humans, you can understand alot about football, without ever have kicked a ball
Thats what professional football players do not understand
Football is mainly in the head, as it needs intelligence to play it, and people who never played the game can see things in stuff that they should have no idea about.
Pundits think all people who have never played the game know nothing, and thats not the case.
In football in past you had to earn your dues, so you can see why footballers think this way, but that does not mean humans cannot work out alot about stuff, without ever being actively involved in something, that they are interested in.
Football is a sport that requires intelligence, and that means people who cannot play the game can understand it, without playing it.
Thats what pundits do not appreciate, and they think because they earned there dues in how football used to be, that all need to do this to understand it.
No, plenty have a good idea about football without ever playing it
Plus with respect to plenty of footballers, they are not that intelligent, they just had skills or physical attributes, that meant that they could play sports for a living.
Most footballers really are not that smart, they had gifts that meant they could do something very well, but that does not mean they understand how they do it, or why they can do it.
Thats what managers are for.
If all pundits were that good, they would of been managers, and they are not.
There is different intelligence abilities in humans, and that means football is like that too, meaning different players can analyse things in slightly different ways, and people like pundits who can see things for what they are on the pitch, and explain it to the public.
I never listen to commentators, or pundits, if you can understand football, you just understand it, and you never needed to have ever kicked a football to understand it.
Team sports are a fascinating profession that humans do, and so much of team sports is based on how humans are, and if you understand alot about humans, you should have a good understanding of how team sports work.
Not playing the game, and not having the skills to play the game, means only that the public cannot understand technical details of football, and there is things about being a good footballer, that only good footballers know, if they indeed have the intelligence to understand why and how they can do what they can do.
Lots of players have no idea how and why they are good at football, and simply do not the intelligence to understand it, in terms of logic.
I never listen to pundits, or commentators, as like i said if you understand how football works, you just do.
I could listen to really good managers explain football and understand it without having them explain it, as people like johann cruff was good, because he understood humans, and bill shankley was good, because he understood humans.
If you can understand alot about humans, if you are interested in a team sport, you will simply understand alot about the sport without ever played it.
Pundits, and former footballers always assume all the public has no idea, as these old school players went through a system where they earned there dues and they think because of this, that the public does not understand this system.
They ignore its all about intelligence, and if you know humans, you can understand things about humans without ever doing what other humans do, and that means football as well.
Football is best sport in world, because it needs intelligence to play, and that means all humans with there own level of intelligence can understand football at there level of intelligence.
This is why football is best sport in world, and everyone has a view on it.
Thatâs their job
Roy Keane and Craig Burley
The BBC understanding if you want clicks just put Roy Keane in the title
Pundits just explain everything we've just watched. From that they say who should have been here or there. It's bollocks
In terms of analysis, Carragher tops the list. He might be wrong on some calls but he justifies his positions .
Black n white telly đđ
Keano is no.1
Wenger is the best. He teaches and highlights things most people even avid fans don't see. Souness and Roy are controversial. Owen is the worst.
Ex players are very deluded about their analytical abilities. Nobody really rates their insight. People will stay turned for Keane tearing strips off someone but beyond that people get their analysis from the athletic or podcasts now. These pundits have been complacent for years and lost their credibility. Nobody cares what Shearer thinks now.
Couple o national treasures right here no doubt imho Richards is good too đđđ
Micah is good as well. Go to USA channels
Shearer is the most unlikable footballer Iâve ever seen
Micah gets on my nerves , with that laughing for nothing.
Doesn't offer me anything
Alan Shearer, Micah, Wright, Keane, Scholes, Hargreaves, Owen, and Lineker are all great. they all bring different sides/personalities to the game
Shearerâs analysis is average, never heard him saying anything good.
Neville & Carra analysis of defending was brilliant
Alonso & Mourinho are brilliant
Shearer does analysis don't make me laugh. Dull and clueless. So bitter when it comes to Keane.
Spot on a dull and boring pundit jealous of Keane and only that heâs a mate of Gary would not get a job on another set
This used to be so good ot watch. Now its horrible cause of there 3 egos all ways put them selfs in the list and talks about them selfs for at 20 minutes Bring back Wright and get rid of laughing boy.
Micah looking like a gaint...
Shearer Shearer tell Harry K to join and Captain Man U
This is funny as Micah is the worst football pundit I've seen come out of the UK.
Shearer along with Danny Murphy are boring pundits. Shearer seems to be jealous because people click on Roy Keane videos and not his. People dont really want deep analysis, they want to listen to conversations you would have with friends or in the pub. Thats why Keane is box office.
Keane has a brilliant sense of humour to unlike shearer who has a small personality and no sense of humour
micah nailed it imo
There right about one thing roy Keane is the number 1,because heâs honest and tells the truth,rest them including these 3 are all ass kissing yes man,linekar only cares about himself making things about him,
2 of the biggest prats in football
Tifo Football
He is right about Wright.
Not sure about Shearer.
Richards is hard to watch.
Lineker has become way too "blokey".
Keane is awesome just now but Hansen was the best.
Roy keane is a great pundit tells it how it is ....Ian Wright aye don't know how he played the game he talks some rubbish about football and has arsenal blinkers on
Wright canât put two bloody sentences together. Only a âpunditâ to tick the obligatory box.