The Philosophy of Thanos: Marvel's Conflicted Nihilist

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    Thanos' ultimate goal in Avengers: Infinity War echoes his philosophical views outlined in the comics. He wishes to end half the life in the Marvel universe with the Infinity Gauntlet loaded up with all six Infinity Stones. But why? What is Thanos' personal philosophy of the universe? Does it make sense for the Mad Titan to be a nihilist when his own life was given a specific purpose and meaning? Have we already seen this view philosophy before in a previous film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Scott explains...
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  • @NerdSyncProductions
    @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +1193

    I'm actually very nervous about this video because of the transition in the middle... I know it's *strange* but please stick around until the end!

    • @sargentsalty3631
      @sargentsalty3631 Pƙed 6 lety +8

      NerdSync this video made me sad cus of seeing infinin

    • @awesomeperson531
      @awesomeperson531 Pƙed 6 lety +31

      Never knew the Thanos helicopter triggered you.

    • @campfirecinema8352
      @campfirecinema8352 Pƙed 6 lety +35

      Dude this was actually one of my favorite videos you've done (By the way I feel you about the Thanos copter)

    • @rfwill13
      @rfwill13 Pƙed 6 lety +4

      Amazing job. Plain and simple.

    • @JPFanBoy2
      @JPFanBoy2 Pƙed 6 lety +9

      This was one of those episodes that emphasizes that comic book stories aren't just the escapism that comes from the exploits of extraordinary beings (I am sorry); they can be poignant character driven thought pieces. What a spectrum that is: the laughably camp to the moving sentimentality, and more so the vehicle of such a tale being one imagined to be both alpha and omega of the universe.
      Get it because he's named after the gr--

  • @marteenyo
    @marteenyo Pƙed 6 lety +549

    Avengers 4 ends with Thanos bringing everyone back to life (except the ones whose contracts have been fulfilled) and riding his helicopter into the cosmic sunset.

  • @wuzzen97
    @wuzzen97 Pƙed 6 lety +226

    Avengers: Infinity War would have been so much better if it had a Thanos-helicopter!

    • @furious_malic7808
      @furious_malic7808 Pƙed 6 lety +3

      MrSchwabbl lol no!

    • @wuzzen97
      @wuzzen97 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Black Mishima 😂

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +35

      I honestly just wanted them to make a subtle joke about it. Like, Thanos teleports to earth and the first thing he does is destroy a helicopter, or something. I don't know, I just want fun easter eggs!

    • @jeffreycruz526
      @jeffreycruz526 Pƙed 6 lety +10

      Hopefully his introduction in Avengers 4 is him riding a helicopter into New York like a boss, taunting the Avengers.

    • @Getwright-
      @Getwright- Pƙed 6 lety +4

      NerdSync I hope Tony uses some kind of makeshift transportation to get back to earth and that it resembles a copter in some way. And since it would come from titan maybe it would have Thanos name on it

  • @dancemechanic1708
    @dancemechanic1708 Pƙed 6 lety +334

    Hear me
 and rejoice. You have had the privilege, of being saved by the Great Titan. You may think this is suffering. No. It is salvation. Universal scales, tipped toward balance because of your sacrifice. Smile, for even in death, you have become Children of Thanos.

  • @BrownieJ126
    @BrownieJ126 Pƙed 6 lety +80

    God if Avengers 4 follows a similar path as that "Marvel Universe: The End" story we may have arguably one of the deepest, most thought provoking movies ever; let alone superhero movies.

    • @manadisaxena
      @manadisaxena Pƙed 5 lety +4

      Very true .

    • @stop156
      @stop156 Pƙed 5 lety

      Imagine if they show akanathen...

    • @honoraryanglo2929
      @honoraryanglo2929 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      Yea, eh ha, that clearly didn't happen, total waste of potential

    • @mrmacross
      @mrmacross Pƙed 5 lety +9

      @@honoraryanglo2929 To be fair, the movie wasn't meant to be about Thanos. That was Infinity War's job. That said, I probably would've liked it better if it was that way.

    • @honoraryanglo2929
      @honoraryanglo2929 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @@mrmacross as a result he became a generic, sadistic one dimensional villain

  • @NerdSyncProductions
    @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +1133

    I don't feel so good...

  • @namegoeshere5220
    @namegoeshere5220 Pƙed 6 lety +62

    And I thank you.
    For giving me a 15 minute essay to explain why Thanos is one of my favorite antivillains. I have had friends ask why him and not a 'cooler' villian like Carnage. Because Thanos, much like Dr. Doom another favorite, is more than cool villains stuff. He is human. He is...just as right as he is wrong. He is complex.
    He has a helicopter.

    • @Darth_Bateman
      @Darth_Bateman Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Fun fact : he’s also a Jew who survived the holocaust.
      How you might ask?
      Same way comics get away with all of their bull shit.
      Time Travel and mutation.

    • @PeterParker-ff7ub
      @PeterParker-ff7ub Pƙed rokem

      NO he isnt.

  • @toneriggz
    @toneriggz Pƙed 6 lety +113

    Thanos 2020: Make Existence Great Again #MEGA

  • @j335h5
    @j335h5 Pƙed 6 lety +235

    This is my new favourite video of yours. I love how you explored the Thanos's motivations and the contradictions in him and his beliefs really well and drew comparisons and conclusions from other similar characters. And that finger snap at the end was perfect.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 Pƙed 6 lety +8

      J335H I do wish they'd delved a bit more into how his biggest foil, Adam Warlock, helped him come to his senses. Those two are the inversion of the classic comic book hero/villain dynamic, Thanos as the powerful conqueror of obstacles and Warlock as the wily and untrustworthy manipulator of people.

    • @briankubinec8049
      @briankubinec8049 Pƙed 4 lety

      I agree, I loved that touch in the end!

  • @captainmidnight
    @captainmidnight Pƙed 6 lety +230

    Yessss, just started it but I can already tell this video is gonna be a great one.

  • @wk3820
    @wk3820 Pƙed 5 lety +22

    Thanos is basically Ivan Turgenev's Bazarov (the original archetype for both the Angry Young Man and the Nihilist) filtered through a lens resembling Darkseid because Roy Thomas literally told Starlin to rip off Darkseid specifically. The combination of the two makes for an odd mix, but it works.

  • @topdogg1231
    @topdogg1231 Pƙed 6 lety +102

    "You...will never...be...a god"
    *sigh* I'll miss him most of all

    • @mider-spanman5577
      @mider-spanman5577 Pƙed 6 lety +3

      I **lowkey** will too. But he will be back.

    • @kriffapher
      @kriffapher Pƙed 5 lety +5

      @Jacob Wood damn buddy, need to talk about something?

    • @saymyname2896
      @saymyname2896 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      That scene broke my neck tbh

  • @ItsOver9000Productions
    @ItsOver9000Productions Pƙed 6 lety +802

    Thanos motivation in the movie is much less ridiculous and kinda makes sense in a very twisted sorta way. Always enjoy these Scott!

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +107

      Yeah, it's kinda clever how they changed it up a bit, but still kinda stuck to the comics. And thanks for the kind words!

    • @adzinco6916
      @adzinco6916 Pƙed 6 lety +17

      It's Over 9000 Productions he could just double the resources

    • @tigerbread78
      @tigerbread78 Pƙed 6 lety +28

      adZinco That's been mentioned elsewhere. It's harder to create than destroy. It would definitely take more power

    • @tiggerbane4325
      @tiggerbane4325 Pƙed 6 lety +24

      Yeah but either way he will have to continue doing it over and over again. Cause the races will increase in numbers again.

    • @toneloak
      @toneloak Pƙed 6 lety +50

      Of course, they would simplify it like that. Because one or two movies is not enough time to dive into the intricate relationship he has with life and death that was told over years by Jim Starlin in the pages of Iron Man, Captain Marvel, Silver Surfer, ect... comics. I knew that was going to happen I'm just glad they were to able to tell an almost equally compelling story.

  • @rodrigoarellano992
    @rodrigoarellano992 Pƙed 6 lety +110

    Wow, what a amazing video. I really think nihilism character is really hard to do well, but you just proof Thanos is a perfect example of this, it’s not about the meaningless is about the Everything inside that meaningless. I think another character that explores this really well is... surprisingly... BoJack Horseman.
    Also, I got to get myself those Mark D. White philosophy books

  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj Pƙed 6 lety +256

    I hope Avengers 4 shows Thanos's helicopter. Lol.

  • @ceka50
    @ceka50 Pƙed 5 lety +63

    I gave endgame a 0/10 because the thanos helicopter was noticeably absent

  • @birde3721
    @birde3721 Pƙed 6 lety +24

    Damn.
    Didn’t expect to have an existential crisis after watching this video

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows Pƙed 6 lety +668

    It only took 200 years for the human population to go from 1 billion to 7 billion. So even if Thanos wipes out half the universe, it would only take a matter of decades for population to bounce back.
    If he truly wanted to maintain balance, he should build an army of robot Cthulhus dwelling within the dark space between galaxies that culls all organic life every 50,000 years to prevent the rise of civilizations advanced enough to become overpopulated.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 Pƙed 6 lety +106

      KingOfMadCows I saw what you did there. Kudos for the Mass Effect shoutout!

    • @mikediamond1234
      @mikediamond1234 Pƙed 6 lety +23

      KingOfMadCows Excellent point. However, the infinity gauntlet has the ability to do whatever thanos wishes, so he would obviously know that populations rise, so wouldn’t he know this and have a cycle forever in place passively?

    • @elevate07
      @elevate07 Pƙed 6 lety +61

      Okay I'm on board with your idea but I have a question: is romancing the space robot Cthulhus optional?

    • @beeflat2896
      @beeflat2896 Pƙed 6 lety +9

      Not a great plan

    • @Nidhog17
      @Nidhog17 Pƙed 6 lety +19

      Oh absolutely! Completely optional if you're not trying to get... THE TRUE ENDING!

  • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
    @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Pƙed 6 lety +68

    This is why no one at Marvel understands Thanos but his creator Jim Starlin.

  • @joshhunt86
    @joshhunt86 Pƙed 6 lety +32

    One of the best videos I've seen from this channel in awhile. Well done!

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Pƙed 6 lety +620

    I'm just glad they made Thanos's motives more relatable and understandable in the film from the getgo than him being a guy trying to impress and get into the pants of a bone lady who's not interested, who eventually gets over her because of his bro, Space Jesus.

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +90

      Yeah, it's like they cut out the middleman (middlelady?). They just gave Thanos Death's motivation instead of having Thanos simply be the means of fulfilling Death's demands because he's in love with her. Kinda clever.

    • @LarryBonson
      @LarryBonson Pƙed 6 lety +18

      Just Some Guy with a Mustache Man you people are shallow, Thanos goal is not trying to bang death since death is not a person but a being, i think the abstract concept is to over your head.

    • @archer1949
      @archer1949 Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Just Some Guy with a Mustache
      Agreed.

    • @101Mant
      @101Mant Pƙed 6 lety +23

      LarryBonson Death can manifest in a physical form and absolutely can bang people, and has done (Deadpool). It's a while since I read the various Infinity comics so I can't remember if Thanos' love is goes in that direction or if it's more a sort of devotion. Probably changes with the writer like most things in comics. He certainly was jeolous of Deadpool at one point.

    • @LarryBonson
      @LarryBonson Pƙed 6 lety +7

      Mark Antill Death has never banged Deadpool in any comic, please list the issue#? Thanos jealous stems from Deadpool receiving what Thanos yearns, and that is appreciation.

  • @yolanda8563
    @yolanda8563 Pƙed 6 lety +92

    Hey Wisecrack, NerdSync here... 😂

  • @shulkie7364
    @shulkie7364 Pƙed 6 lety +69

    Masterpiece. I'm obsessed

  • @capmar-vell92returns20
    @capmar-vell92returns20 Pƙed 6 lety +47

    No one at Marvel can write Thanos but Jim Starlin.

    • @Rawc90
      @Rawc90 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      CapMar-Vell92 Returns no one has ever been so wrong

    • @alfa01spotivo
      @alfa01spotivo Pƙed 5 lety +7

      @@Rawc90 its true

    • @nerdimusprime8753
      @nerdimusprime8753 Pƙed 5 lety +10

      I agree. I'm a massive Starlin fan and I feel like when other people write Thanos he loses his meaning.

    • @alexnoir1018
      @alexnoir1018 Pƙed 4 lety

      Only person other than Jim Starlin is Donny Cates, obviously Jim Starlin is the definitive Thanos writer, he created him after all, but Donny Cates is a good successor.

    • @capmar-vell92returns20
      @capmar-vell92returns20 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      @@alexnoir1018 Nah. Cates writes him as a thuggish edgelord with gore and power levels all over the place.
      Keith Giffen is the only one who got Thanos right after Starlin.

  • @andrebadillo8568
    @andrebadillo8568 Pƙed 6 lety +48

    Beautifully executed

  • @kanvaros4451
    @kanvaros4451 Pƙed 6 lety +38

    It seems like while he believes nihilism it seems like his goal is utilitarianism is goal. Death of trillions in order to save countless more.
    I feel like if you remove his nihilism then he could be actually from a certain lense be seen as the hero, he is saying that the many overweight the value of the few.

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +12

      Like all good villains, he believes his actions are the right thing to do, while the heroes simply try to maintain the status quo of how things already are. It turns Thanos into a really interesting character!

    • @kanvaros4451
      @kanvaros4451 Pƙed 6 lety +4

      NerdSync yep, it adds this kind of sick perverse feeling that what he is doing is fundamentally wrong but at the same time if we ascribe value to lives he is taking what he sees at the most logical and utilitarian route. If we say life has meaning then removing the human point of view it can be easily seen why saving trillions over billions is a defensible yet horrible plan. I think what makes him terrifying to audiences is the cold and unfeeling way in which he does execute his plan, a snap of a finger and bam he has culled the population. It's such an inconsequential action anyone can do it but when he does it the universe is purged unbiased of half its population.
      It's terrifying but so interesting.
      Also thanks for all you do! I love nerdsync

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Travis Sanchez As Adam Warlock pointed out, Thanos has a bad habit of lying to himself about why he does what he does.

  • @iunnor
    @iunnor Pƙed 6 lety +29

    If Thanos did eradicate the whole universe, then he did live “forever” because time is a relative concept.

  • @mr.peanutwaffles2527
    @mr.peanutwaffles2527 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    You're getting so great at video-making. Not just the script, but establishing the mood with music, transitions, vocal acting, everything. That snap at the end? Hecking cool.

  • @Jayfive276
    @Jayfive276 Pƙed 6 lety +9

    Imagine if halfway through the battle in Wakanda in Infinity War, he had cried "QUICK! TO THE THANOS-COPTER!"

  • @elin111
    @elin111 Pƙed 6 lety +8

    The movie did that finger snap moment so well.

  • @duck31100
    @duck31100 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    I’m not crying you’re crying
    Really a great video, just recently started watching your videos and I believe this is the best one I’ve seen so far. I love the way you romanticize Thanos’ beliefs and showcase the depth of these.
    Hope to see much more like these.

  • @libertangel
    @libertangel Pƙed 6 lety +3

    Oh my god... besides the beauty of what you said about meaning, your rythm and intention when saying it was amazing. I got goosbumps and a tear.

  • @Moshuun
    @Moshuun Pƙed 6 lety +246

    I thought this was a wisecrack video! 😂😂 But I was pleased, nonetheless. #NS4L

    • @limberlad
      @limberlad Pƙed 6 lety +7

      I found this better than Wisecrack's Infinity War's quick take

  • @tanke94
    @tanke94 Pƙed 6 lety +66

    Wow this was very good i was so in to it

  • @MataNui.
    @MataNui. Pƙed 6 lety +99

    Only problems I have with infinity gauntlet would be the writers clearly write themselves into a corner at the end. Infinity gauntlet is the perfect thing to point to when someone asks "'what would happen if you gave the villain plot armor?".

    • @sirtoby4939
      @sirtoby4939 Pƙed 6 lety +59

      Mata Nui ... No they don't. The entire point of Infinity Gauntlet is to illustrate how Thanos' greatest enemy is his own personal failings. It was always intended to be that way. It's not an Avengers story about punching da bad guy.

    • @MataNui.
      @MataNui. Pƙed 6 lety +9

      I read the storyline up until the part where Nebula steals the gauntlet and thats just what I ended up taking from it. I still think Thanos had plot armor though.

    • @sirtoby4939
      @sirtoby4939 Pƙed 6 lety +22

      Mata Nui ... Dude, he possessed omnipotence. Do you understand this concept?

    • @MataNui.
      @MataNui. Pƙed 6 lety +6

      I was wrong then. Wait doesn't the gauntlet give him near omnipotence? The story kept saying omnipotence some things keep saying near omnipotence. Only reason I kept saying plot armor is because that's just what it ends up looking like when you a villain that powerful.

    • @sirtoby4939
      @sirtoby4939 Pƙed 6 lety +30

      Mata Nui It absolutely does look like plot armor. The reason I'm stressing the point is because there's no way to write a story like this, without it looking like the "villain" is incapable of being defeated by virtue of the "script said so".
      Because the fact that no outside force could defeat him, *is the entire point* .
      Forget "power levels". Forget plans to cull the universal population to preserve "a balance". Forget the Avengers (they're only B-list minor characters anyway).
      Go back and read the Infinity Gauntlet to the end, with the understanding that it is a character study of Thanos himself.
      Of course he has plot armour. He's the protagonist of the story.

  • @umbraemilitos
    @umbraemilitos Pƙed 6 lety +48

    I don't understand why people complain about Existential Nihilism. Life does not appear to have any intrinsic meaning, but that is liberating. No fate or destiny. No absolute expectations. Even more, we can find satisfaction in striving forward in life. "We must imagine Sisyphus happy "

    • @juice2307
      @juice2307 Pƙed 5 lety

      It is the fact that nihilism is false in and of itself. Purpose is subjective, and is neither good or bad. It is something we choose or do not. In the same vain, the Earth is destined to perish, as are stars and the universe itself. Destiny, by all means, is an unavoidable event or ending. Using that logic, we all have one, because some things are just inevitable.

    • @KelniusTV
      @KelniusTV Pƙed 5 lety

      @@juice2307 you claim that nihilism is false, but then affirm it seconds later. Purpose is subjective, yes, but _that's the point._
      To have purpose you must have a subject, but the universe is an object. Which means that there is no *inherent* meaning in the universe, since meaning by definition cannot be objective.
      So, there is no inherent meaning - but, as I like to explain it, it can inherit meaning. We can suggest or suppose meaning to life, the universe and everything.
      This is the very freedom that Umbrae (the original poster) is referring to, when they say we have no fate or destiny, we are free to choose or discover our own.
      For this reason I would argue that what most people believe to be nihilism is, in fact, Existential Apathy.

    • @juice2307
      @juice2307 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@KelniusTV I think that changes a bit when you believe an object was made by a subject.

    • @KelniusTV
      @KelniusTV Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@juice2307 I guess that is true. I would still argue that it would merely be that subject's opinion though, even if it were a "Capital G Subject". Unless you think that the object IS the subject, but I think that's pantheism, and I don't think I'd want to dive down that particular rabbit hole.
      But, I concede the point that it would likely depend on your beliefs in that regard.

    • @juice2307
      @juice2307 Pƙed 5 lety

      @@KelniusTV At that point we pretty much have to go into the psychology of perception. From a philosophical perspective, no one can really say their perception is more real than another's. Schizophrenics, for example, are perceiving hallucinations and delusions with their senses.

  • @Wixhael
    @Wixhael Pƙed 6 lety +53

    Wow, jeez, this video is great. What a great analysis of a great villain. Keep the videos like this, Scott!

  • @thepokekid01
    @thepokekid01 Pƙed 6 lety +81

    If Only Thanos learned about Clean and Green energy!...

    • @julianacheampong8853
      @julianacheampong8853 Pƙed 6 lety +18

      thepokekid01 if only an arc reactor or vibranium existed. Or perhaps a sorceror who can literally manipulate energy from different realities. Then regulating the population wouldn't be necessary.
      Oh wait

  • @IcoKirov
    @IcoKirov Pƙed 6 lety +2

    this video was pure quality!
    I have to say you exceed everything i could have expected

  • @johnathonhaney8291
    @johnathonhaney8291 Pƙed 6 lety +5

    The friend who got me into collecting comics had a mad love for Jim Starlin, though his preferred series for him was Dreadstar (highly recommended, by the way). It was because of him that I picked up Infinity Gauntlet and became acquainted with the Mad Titan through the 1990s. And I loved every story Starlin and Ron Marz wrote around him.
    Thank you for showing everyone a) what a cool villain he ultimately is (even above Doctor Doom, he remains my gold standard of a comic book villain) and b) how faithful the MCU version was to the original (enough so to earn Starlin an individual shoutout from the producers in the Infinity War closing credits).

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear Pƙed 6 lety +10

    Imagine if Tony say "impermanence is a feature, not a bug, of human existence!" to Thanos in Avengers 4.

  • @birde3721
    @birde3721 Pƙed 6 lety +23

    You can’t blame Thanos. Mistress Death is a fine piece of ass

    • @i-kon3153
      @i-kon3153 Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Skeletal Pryde Idk, I prefer some meat on my bones.

    • @nathanramsey2805
      @nathanramsey2805 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Yeah... you might need some help

    • @GaneshKumar-bv2td
      @GaneshKumar-bv2td Pƙed 6 lety

      Solomon Lok some help?? He needs considerable help..he’s talking about necrophilia here😉

    • @felixgutierrez993
      @felixgutierrez993 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Solomon Lok damn you guys never heard the word "SATIRE" This comment is so damn coverd with it you can smell it -_-

  • @Karls_Clips
    @Karls_Clips Pƙed 6 lety +8

    This video was actually kind of beautiful.
    I loved how conflicted thanos was in the film and i hope they touch on that marvel universe the end story in avengers 4, making the greatest hero of the marvel universe its greatest villain.
    Now excuse me i have alot of jim starlin thanos books to catch up on.

  • @josephscybert4661
    @josephscybert4661 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    This was an excellent video. I truly hope this is the direction that the MCU takes their version of Thanos in. Thanks so much!

  • @cameronmefford
    @cameronmefford Pƙed 6 lety +4

    The Thanos Copter cameo was the best part of Infinity War.

  • @jong208
    @jong208 Pƙed 6 lety +23

    Hey Wisecrack, Scott here

  • @OlJimbo
    @OlJimbo Pƙed 5 lety +7

    As dark as the meaning he gave to his life is, i can respect that.

  • @MurasakiBunny
    @MurasakiBunny Pƙed 6 lety +14

    Then he went off to chicken farming... it's cannon.

  • @Robin0928
    @Robin0928 Pƙed 6 lety +20

    The first 60 seconds... oof... this is gonna get good.

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety

      Hahaha, enjoy!

    • @Robin0928
      @Robin0928 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      NerdSync Oh hey, it was even better than I thought it was going to be. One of the best and most beautiful videos on this channel.

  • @aname51
    @aname51 Pƙed 6 lety +28

    Wow. Just wow.
    Btw awesome snap in the end Scott 😉😉

  • @KickingHALOMAN
    @KickingHALOMAN Pƙed 6 lety +3

    This was an amazing video. Both on content but as quality. 100/10

  • @juancarlosq10
    @juancarlosq10 Pƙed 6 lety +20

    I LOVED your video (i like all of them, but this one in particular is very awesome). I think it might actually also give a hint on how Avengers 4 could finish because of the conflict you mention... Thanks for the awesome video Scott! Greetings from Mexico!

  • @caitlinvdj4874
    @caitlinvdj4874 Pƙed 6 lety +9

    wonderfull video to drift off to sleep thinking about life and its meaning, and feeling better about it than I have done in a while, thanks Scott :)

  • @Chandasouk
    @Chandasouk Pƙed 6 lety +60

    I wasn't in love with Infinity war movie but liked how they adapted Thanos for the movie. His infatuation with death was always funny too me in the comics. Especially when he tries to make death jealous lmao

    • @vision4860
      @vision4860 Pƙed 6 lety +10

      Chandasouk I agree with you on his infatuation with Death. It always struck me as ridiculous, and even with the marvelous explanation in this video, the fact that Death appears to him as a woman and that he's in love with her is the smallest part of what's actually meaningful to his character.
      I personally really liked Infinity War though. For one, the fight scenes were amazing, and the interactions between the heroes from different circles were hilarious. But also I love (and for one in particular, love/hate) the ways they broke from the mold of traditional tropes. *SPOILER WARNING*
      I mean, usually the hero usually never sacrifices a fellow hero or a loved one for the greater good, and always manages to find another way. But Quill actually tries to kill Gamora rather than let Thanos take her. Scarlet Witch actually destroys the Mind Stone rather than let Thanos take it. And what's mere, it doesn't work, and THE VILLAIN WINS. I'm personally a big fan of bucking the expected tropes and conventions, so I really like that personally.

    • @deazy6453
      @deazy6453 Pƙed 6 lety

      Chandasouk He was trying to make Death jealous by creating life. Though that's silly to be seen literally, it is quite a deep dive into the mind of one who is obsessed with death. Though Thanos in the movie was great, he was changed because the audience likely would see a bag of bones, rather than the manifestation of Death in the Universe. I would've. I even hoped that the Mistess wouldn't be in the movie at all, because it does seem silly, looking at it literally, but just not... Literally. Lol

  • @theaidadmin
    @theaidadmin Pƙed 6 lety

    This was without doubt the best video you have ever made. I am glad you are still here, i actually got sad when you said you might leave because of the adpocalypses. Please never leave us.

  • @jay__birdie
    @jay__birdie Pƙed 6 lety +2

    Ok this was honestly the most beautifully written video I've ever watched. Awesome job Scott!

  • @himbjoe5228
    @himbjoe5228 Pƙed 6 lety +58

    I get that in the movie he wanted to get rid of half of each population for resources, but couldn’t the man just tried snapping his fingers for more food and water. Still a fantastic movie and keep up the great work!

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +25

      Sure, but he's also the Mad Titan. Emphasis on "mad."

    • @finngraf645
      @finngraf645 Pƙed 6 lety +29

      Joey Aly if you consider our rules to space and matter, doing that would be impossible everything is finite there is a constant too our universe. He could manipulate that constant but not change it. But nevertheless I do like your humanitarian approach.

    • @nvcomics
      @nvcomics Pƙed 6 lety +20

      Brandon Roberts actually there would be a lot of conflict. War in fact. With too much resources there will be fighting and war over it. By randomly exterminating half of all life there is no bias and no one type of people are above any other. I actually agree with his thoughts

    • @darkmyro
      @darkmyro Pƙed 6 lety +6

      Joey Aly I'm not sure that would work either then people would just get lazy and have all the babies and you would the exact same problem. Or at least something like that, it's like when people complain there is too much traffic, the way to fix it isn't to add more roads, but to add more ways of getting from point a-b, like sidewalks and bus systems and trams.

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman Pƙed 6 lety +5

      Matter and energy are finite as told by him. He cannot create without energy. The universe is already lacking energy.

  • @Skkorm
    @Skkorm Pƙed 6 lety +9

    Dude this channel is of such high quality.

  • @kaksikymmenta3
    @kaksikymmenta3 Pƙed 6 lety +25

    In my headcanon MCU Thanos is a deep ecologist.

  • @FrootNinja
    @FrootNinja Pƙed 6 lety +1

    By far my favorite video from you guys, I love how this video is done as well as the writing!

  • @arata35_
    @arata35_ Pƙed 6 lety +20

    #BRINGTHETHANOSCHOPPERTOTHEMCU

  • @JasonCarton
    @JasonCarton Pƙed 6 lety +45

    Best vid you've made

  • @taylorbeckett9686
    @taylorbeckett9686 Pƙed 6 lety +12

    Could Thanos sacrifice himself to restore life in Avengers 4? Think of the arc of that story, my god.

  • @AnishMurthy1297
    @AnishMurthy1297 Pƙed 6 lety

    I don't know why but CZcams stopped recommending your videos to me. I had to actually search for your channel to see any of your videos. Amazing work, as always!

  • @PIayer_01
    @PIayer_01 Pƙed 6 lety +497

    Am I the only one who prefers Thanos’ motivation in Infinity War

    • @milesmorales2106
      @milesmorales2106 Pƙed 6 lety +35

      Sami Shamroukh no, I prefer infinity war. But death would be cool

    • @traviswheeler8885
      @traviswheeler8885 Pƙed 6 lety +99

      Ray Rivera no dumbass, if you think that you should stay away from story telling all together. His point was that if left unchecked, populations will end up killing them self, and that the only way to bring peace and prosperity was to keep them in check, it’s not just resources, it’s to save life, and to do what ever is necessary to do so and hope that they understand.

    • @MataNui.
      @MataNui. Pƙed 6 lety +32

      There really isn't a huge difference judging by the early part of the video. Only difference is he is not essentially doing it for a girl.

    • @sirtoby4939
      @sirtoby4939 Pƙed 6 lety +40

      Mata Nui There's a massive difference. In the comic his reasons cut right to the core of who he is as a sentient being. His actions are completely informed by a worldview that only values power dynamics and a psyche that longs for the affection of one of the only beings he finds worthy of admiration.
      In the movie, he's sad because his civilization died. And that makes it a good idea to commit routine genocide. Because genocide is good for socio-economic stability, apparently.
      It's so not the same, it's not even funny.

    • @MataNui.
      @MataNui. Pƙed 6 lety +3

      SirToby ok clearly I wasn't thinking.

  • @ProjectDelta1
    @ProjectDelta1 Pƙed 6 lety +31

    Thanos needs to bring his helicopter to Avengers 4. It's not an option at this point.

    • @Prettywitchiusaka
      @Prettywitchiusaka Pƙed 5 lety +4

      And if he does, he needs to say "To the Thanos Copter!"

  • @remyblas
    @remyblas Pƙed 6 lety

    Dude. DUDE! This is why tis is one of my favorite CZcams channels ever. This was beautifully done. Perfect pace, script, images, theme, music... this was done perfectly. This is probably one of your best videos yet. Please, never quit, and keep giving us great works like this.

  • @shogundante666
    @shogundante666 Pƙed 6 lety

    Scott, ive been a subscriber for quite a long time, ive always loved your content, and you actually preach the same that i try to show to all of my friends, that you can grow smarter through comics, there is a beauty in them that very few people actually comprehend (at least in my experience), but everyone has the possibility to enjoy and even get the comprehension and love that everyone who watches your channel feels. I got to admit that ive used your videos as examples with a lot of people, but so far this is one of my absolute favorites, you are great man (sorry for my broken english, i'm still practicing it)

  • @Jasonwolf1495
    @Jasonwolf1495 Pƙed 6 lety +157

    And you know Thanos is wrong because with infinite power instead of giving infinite resources to the universe he reduces the lives in the universe. He sees the number of people as the problem not the lack of resources. If he wanted he could assure life has importance (even though it alread does, but even then assurance would be nice sometimes). Its ironic since its called the INFINITY gauntlet, but Thanos makes sure the universe is FINITE.

    • @stureremilthestuborn128mm5
      @stureremilthestuborn128mm5 Pƙed 6 lety +49

      Jeffrey, if you follow the background of the infinity stones, they were born when the Big bang happened, being singularities of an aspect of Reality itself (basically ultra compressed vast, non evaluable amounts of energy related to said aspect), Infinity in the case, means mostly that the amount of power within the Stones ate immeasurable, not TRULY infinite, so even the stones themselves have a limit, the very amount of energy the Universe itself has, thus they're also part of a finite quantity of resources; at best, Thanos would be able to only double the amount of resources in total (equal to two entire Universes/Realities), because the stones have basically the amount of energy they were given on conception, the Big bang, the day 0 of the Reality.

    • @TheFrenchGamersV2
      @TheFrenchGamersV2 Pƙed 6 lety +21

      I think I saw, somewhere, that the Infinity Stones follow the Law(s) of Equivalent Exchange, therefore, matter cannot be created because it requires a sacrifice of equal or greater value. Thanos cannot create more resources without giving something up in return. But, he can take it away, suffering no consequences. I wouldn't quote me on this, but it's a plausible concept I saw on an obscure forum weeks ago.

    • @aminimoose3971
      @aminimoose3971 Pƙed 6 lety +5

      Not to mention that infinity is kind of limited to ones own understanding and perspective. First off, how can a being who's major life view is that of destruction be capable of creation? How can a single mind even comprehend the vastness of the entire universe? Think of it as a the gauntlet being bottlenecked by it's wearer. Even if you somehow understood the workings of this universe, can you imagine a new one on the spot that wouldn't fall apart after a short millennia? He's working sitting the confines of the system.

    • @User-es3em
      @User-es3em Pƙed 6 lety

      Did any of you guys see the movie?

    • @VXMasterson
      @VXMasterson Pƙed 6 lety +10

      You can't bone Mistress Death by increasing resources

  • @GoblinLord
    @GoblinLord Pƙed 5 lety +8

    Ok, so, when Thanos went mad, I guess you could say he "snapped"?

  • @SecretOwl2023
    @SecretOwl2023 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    For those wondering the piano music is "the rain against my window" by johannes bornlöf

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey Pƙed 6 lety +2

    Given the post-credits scene in The Avengers, where Thanos smiles after being warned that to fight the humans "is to court death", makes much more sense now.

  • @adamb4140
    @adamb4140 Pƙed 6 lety +3

    *walks off screen*
    damn.
    *comes back and snaps finger*
    DAMN

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer5 Pƙed 5 lety +7

    I want to see the Thanos-copter appear in Endgame

  • @CathPresbyter
    @CathPresbyter Pƙed 6 lety +1

    You know I like your videos, and they are very informative, but this one is just different. Its has a depth to it, and its not just your use of philosophy, (Which I always love since I am one of those philosophy nerds who loves to take philosophy classes, 93 credits back in the day.) Its the way this is edited, this is really an excellent video, thought provoking, the presentation was just a joy to watch. Great job, I hope to see more done this way in the future, every once in a while. Thanks.

  • @PaperPatriot
    @PaperPatriot Pƙed 6 lety +1

    That finger snap at the end actually made me jump...PTSD

  • @SpaghettiGod34
    @SpaghettiGod34 Pƙed 6 lety +7

    I love this video now I’ll think of Thanos in a different light

  • @kaiplue
    @kaiplue Pƙed 6 lety +11

    This makes me think that at some point this could be the over arching plot of Avengers 4. I've been seeing videos with the question, "Who will beat Thanos?" When in truth, that is the WRONG question to ask. No one is going to "beat" thanos. Thanos might, in the end, just sacrifice himself. The rumored title of Avengers 4 after all is "Avengers: *The End* game".

    • @Gohanitos
      @Gohanitos Pƙed 6 lety

      kaiplue one word. Arsenal, if u know the comics.

    • @guian101
      @guian101 Pƙed 6 lety

      Sorry not that familiar with marvel comics and when I heard arsenal I immediately thought green arrow's sidekick

    • @kaiplue
      @kaiplue Pƙed 6 lety

      Akis Mou Arsenal was only able to blast Thanos far across the universe and not ultimately "defeat" or destroy him. Maybe it could decapacitate Thanos but not kill him. Although I wouldnt put it past them using Arsenal with the plot seeds planted. With Shuri having collected enough of Vision's data, we might see this character in some form or another. But no, I don't think Arsenal is the end all be all ending of this particular arc.

    • @josh44026
      @josh44026 Pƙed 6 lety

      that would be kinda lame.

    • @KaizerMan
      @KaizerMan Pƙed 5 lety

      Anyone who hears Arsenal and doesn’t think of the football team is no respectable person to me

  • @DoubleFAqua
    @DoubleFAqua Pƙed 6 lety +1

    A love philosophy and this video was beautiful. I teared up; you did such a great job explaining all the concepts, linking them back to your theory, and it was a very entertaining. Thank you so much for ask your hard work.

  • @yaboiakira929
    @yaboiakira929 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    I'm just happy that they made Thanos's ideology clear in the movie and (for the most part) managed to still make him the greatest marvel antagonist and not just a guy that wants to destroy and "control the universe or some crap, so Marvel......... Great Job like you always do

  • @elpadrino1128
    @elpadrino1128 Pƙed 6 lety +6

    The reason why I love infinity gauntlet is because itÂŽs bassicaly a love story :v Thanos just wants to impress Death but she just keeps on friendzoning him :ÂŽv

  • @Gabrielasanchez-xh8wo
    @Gabrielasanchez-xh8wo Pƙed 6 lety +16

    This video is awesome

  • @morlath4767
    @morlath4767 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    A fantastic video, Scott. I had no idea that the argument in Infinity War was pure canon outside of the Death part. The transition makes sense and also made me look at the Doctor Strange film in a different way. Thank you for this brilliant dissection of Thanos.

  • @AwesomeAusten
    @AwesomeAusten Pƙed 6 lety

    Scott, this video? Yea, it's amazing. Seriously it is beyond awesome. Your channel has really come far. Good job my friend!

  • @armaanjain923
    @armaanjain923 Pƙed 6 lety +49

    Thanos is Light Yagami confirmed

    • @jewelyJewels
      @jewelyJewels Pƙed 6 lety +7

      Marvel& Dc This universe is rotten. Evil?!! NO, I AM JUSTIIIIIICE!!!!!!!! *Snap*

    • @goodsonicfan5016
      @goodsonicfan5016 Pƙed 5 lety

      Thanos probably used a human disguise with the help of the Reality Stone.

    • @DomoftheDoctor
      @DomoftheDoctor Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Bit of a massive stretch, regardless of which Thanos you're using.
      Light is far from a nihilist, and his killings are not random and unbiased. Yes, they both believe that mass slaughter will in some way save humanity, but whereas Thanos doesn't choose his victims, Light kills people based on his subjective view of who does and who doesn't deserve to live.

    • @DomoftheDoctor
      @DomoftheDoctor Pƙed 4 lety

      @Tornike Tvalchrelidze Indeed! And "became" is the keyword. Too many people seem to think that Light was born evil, or that he would have become a vigilante even if he'd never found the Death Note. Truth is, Light was more or less a good person - especially so in the manga compared to the anime - but the terrible choices he made (without external influence from the Note itself, because that's not how it works) utterly transformed him into a wretch of a person. He's just way more interesting if you view him as someone who had everything and then gave it all up to keep his precious ego from snapping.

  • @nebolevar3583
    @nebolevar3583 Pƙed 6 lety +3

    You should analyze Adam Warlock next! Because Jim Starlin has had creative control of the character for such long periods of time, his development is also rather fascinating. He's a comic book hero(?) who really changes over time, I think.

  • @pterojacktylus2475
    @pterojacktylus2475 Pƙed 6 lety

    First video I’ve seen of this channel, very well narrated and perfectly on point enough to keep me watching, found my new channel for my nerd focus time!!

  • @AltbinariesPPK
    @AltbinariesPPK Pƙed 6 lety

    That last panel of thanos mask on the ground was just beautiful

  • @TheVetoSkreeemer
    @TheVetoSkreeemer Pƙed 6 lety +6

    Great Thanos video. My favorite Thanos stories are the ones Starlin wrote on the 70 s .

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Starlin knew Thanos inside and out, and he crushed it every time!

    • @TheVetoSkreeemer
      @TheVetoSkreeemer Pƙed 6 lety +1

      NerdSync Well he also made the best Captain Marvel and Warlock stories. Starlin is a great writer.

    • @yandhi5016
      @yandhi5016 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      TheVetoSkreeemer yeah, stalin wrote a lot of very interesting history, especially in the 40’s

    • @TheVetoSkreeemer
      @TheVetoSkreeemer Pƙed 6 lety

      Turro Sure he did,just imagine if he had gotten the infinity gauntlet.

  • @kaiwilliams141
    @kaiwilliams141 Pƙed 6 lety +8

    Thanos kind of descends from the greek god of death thanatos.

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  Pƙed 6 lety +7

      Yes! This is something that I cut out of the video. I had a whole section dedicated to his "REAL Origin" and it talked about Thanatos and Eros as both mythical figures and psychologocal concepts. But the video was long enough and that stuff didn't flow well with what I had written.

  • @Willedcub93442
    @Willedcub93442 Pƙed 6 lety

    This video was incredible. I was hesitant to click because it wasn't Wisecrack, but I am so glad I did. Everything from the execution to the analysis was incredibly well done. Suscribed and ready for more!

  • @frikipondioify
    @frikipondioify Pƙed 6 lety

    Probably my favourite video of yours so far, great job man.

  • @SgtTwilight
    @SgtTwilight Pƙed 6 lety +3

    "I dunno, google it I guess"
    -Scott, 2018.

  • @beatbodytraining121
    @beatbodytraining121 Pƙed 6 lety +5

    Well done sir. Well done. I'll continue to watch your channel.

  • @justgeekythings5218
    @justgeekythings5218 Pƙed 6 lety

    this video is probably the best video on CZcams I've seen in a while

  • @DavidbarZeus1
    @DavidbarZeus1 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    Well, I learned quite a bit about Thanos thanks to this video, including the fact that the MCU didn't change him as much as I believed when I first watched Infinity War

  • @JPFanBoy2
    @JPFanBoy2 Pƙed 6 lety +25

    Scott.
    Scott.
    _Scott I know you run __superhypenews.website__ Scott you can't fool me now stop spoiling us with your content and by stop I mean keep doing it_

  • @oliverm376
    @oliverm376 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    This whole idea that death gives life it's value, and that it isn't inherently a bad thing, is one of the overarching themes of the MCU and has been throughout much of the movies' infinity saga. while stated outright in Doctor Strange by the Ancient One, this idea is everywhere in MCU movies.
    Take for example the final conversation between Ultron and Vision at the end of Age of Ultron:
    "They are doomed."
    "Yes..........but a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. It's a privilege to be among them."
    Or Peter Quill's final confrontation with his biological father Ego, accepting that being human and being able to die is a blessing
    "If you kill me, you'll be just like everyone else"
    "What's so wrong with that?"
    But maybe Iron Man himself said it best in Endgame:
    "Part of the journey is the end."

  • @AJLuna-vk3dk
    @AJLuna-vk3dk Pƙed 6 lety

    Dude that Doctor Strange clip with Ancient One is gorgeous. Makes me cry just by the visuals.

  • @brynaamrl
    @brynaamrl Pƙed 6 lety

    Made me shed some tears to realize that life does have meaning, this video kinda saved me. Thank you