Turbo Inlet Pipe Upgrade and FULL Stage 2 Golf R Modifications
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- Today we install the final part of full stage 2 build, the upgraded turbo inlet pipe. This is a simple and cheap mod for better air flow and more power. After we install the turbo inlet pipe, we will flash a Beta stage 2 tune on the Golf R. The stage 2 file takes advantage of the charge cooler, inlet, intake and downpipe. We will then dyno this beta file and see how much horsepower the stage 2 Golf R gets.
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So we are stage 2 now. SUPER FUN! After IE has the stage 2 file 100% we will go back to the dyno. Also While not 100% needed, I think we are going to upgrade the spark plugs. IE recommends NGK R7437-9 at .024" gap. Those babies aren't cheap at ~ $40 each. :)
Is it 100% necessary to install spark plugs for a stage 2+ ?
@@yoyigu I've always heard it's "strongly suggested" to go at least a degree colder on your plugs with stage 2 or 2+
When I had my 6R flashed to Stage 2 (Unitronic), the tech said I should expect the car to get a little faster over the following month as the engine and ECU settle into the new tune. Have you heard this? I'd be curious what your dyno numbers are after about a month/1000+ miles.
Rockauto has those plugs for $28
Get the plugs from fcpeuro to use their lifetime warranty
Charles your hands down one of the best car CZcamsr’s in the business, your explanations, workmanship and videos are top notch!!! Always look forward to your videos 👍👌
Thank you so much for that. Means the world
Totally agree, best one out there. Tuned up cars when i was younger and now just getting back into it with my first build in years, working on stage one on my mk7r and your video have helped so much and a few laughs too
I always explain it like this - Stage 1 wakes the car up from stock, Stage 2 unlocks the usable potential, Stage 3 and beyond pushes the car to (or beyond) its limits.
James that is a PERECT explanation
To a certain extent you are right but doesn’t apply to all applicants
@@Audi8pOfSouthAfrica fair enough. I'm speaking within the realm of VAG products.
That's a really good breakdown actually!
From an owner perspective, Stage 1 is nearly always the way the car should come come the factory, but for the manufacturer, hitting those fuel economy and emissions targets are what matters. Stage 2 is the sweet spot for an enthusiast and stage 3 is rarely suitable for an everyday driver, you go to stage 3 for no other reason than, you can.
My typical answer to people when they ask "is this upgrade worth it?" is, if you're asking that question the answer is probably no. If you're not sure if spending 5k is worth the 100HP (or what ever) increase is worth it, its probably not to you.
On the other hand its totally worth it if you want a car thats going to grab you by the pooper and give you a ride.
Charles don't just look at the peak numbers, the graph tells a great story in green. Your peak torque may be the same as stage 1 but look how much sooner it rises in green. Same for the horsepower, your powerband is stronger for a pretty wide RPM range. That's something you'll feel when you're driving daily rather than just full throttle. Good work!
Yes looking at the area under the curve is right, and it needs work between 3-4k rpm.
It's a little better. Not a lot better.
Power corrupts the man.....stay humble Charles 😂
Horsepower Corruption. Seems like a good T-shirt
@@HumbleMechanic CORRUPTED HORSES🐎🐎🐎
car gang😂😂😂
@@HumbleMechanic I think you may have a tshirt idea there
@@HumbleMechanic Were just glad you dont own a Mustang.. 😄 👍
Hahahha
I've been stage 2 on my GTI for about 2 years now and I have to say, the car is an absolute blast to drive!
Just getting into this what tune did you use, not sure if I want to go IE or unitronic any feedback 🤔
I went full APR Stage 2 on my 2016 Golf R manual in late 2017 after being on Stage 1 for nearly 2 years. According to the APR published numbers, I was at 354 crank HP and 379 crank TQ. With Stage 2, the numbers improved to 387 crank HP and 409 crank TQ. The improvement wasn't quite as dramatic as going from stock to Stage 1, but the difference was still considerable, meaning the car went from crazy fast to absolute bonkers. Definitely worth the cost!
Im here for the beard
MultiNazi666 me too
Awesome video! Thanks for outlining the total estimated cost. Really puts it all in perspective in regards to the financial burden of upgrading the power.
Can't wait for the Stage 2 to be released to the public! Thanks for the help on the battery maintainer question the other day.
Genuinely love your honest videos, advice and guides. You have a beautiful car and that is so worth it! Keep up the great work Charles!
Thank you so much
I went from stock to stage 2; Got a lovely 100hp awakening.
-Eurodyne stg.2 and DSG
-Racing line intake, turbo inlet pipe, and hose
-CTS turboback (de-cat), engine, trans. Mount
-034 torque insert
I must say that it has been so much fun driving a over 400hp (crank) car. Debating if I should get the intercooler since I don't track my car and I don't use all of that hp as frequent as I would like. Great video.
Great info on expectations on these mods. Maybe in the near future ill be doing these upgrades but as of right now, im just enjoying the car.
I appreciate the video bro! Just installed my 034 Motorsport Turbo Inlet on my MK7 GLI. Used your video for reference. Much help!
Loved the video man, really informative 👍🏻
I keep forgetting how good them engines are!! There good figures!
I had a classic Scooby with about those power figures, for the roads here in the UK it was more than enough. If I were to be tracking the car then yes, I may have wanted more but it just felt so right at the figures.
Glad you're pleased with the results, look forward to your future videos.
I watched the same video on inlet pipe upgrade from ecs multiple times but only needed to see yours once. Make more videos because this one was excellent!
Thank you
Great video looking forward to the next update on stage 2
Im glad i ran into you! Looking to get the newer gold r and god damn you stamped it for me! Lets go!! New sub! Keep going buddy!
You are the only person I could find with true Dyno graphs for stock, stage 1, and stage 2 overlayed on the same sheet. I was hesitant on going aftermarket DP, and was considering going straight to one of the new stock dp turbo upgrades from either APR or EQT. This has swayed me. Going stage 2 for a while first.
Awesome!!! Glad to help
I really appreciate your videos...thanks for sharing your knowledge👍👌
new shop looks great congrat Charles
By far the best DIY instruction video on how to install a turbo inlet pipe for the mk7/mqb platform. Glad you got a mk7 golf
thank you
Looking forward to watching you go to stage 3.
Amazing video man!!!! Keep up the good work! Can’t wait to do stage 2
Very informative. Great video.
Definitely one of the best channels on CZcams! Always informative, great video quality and audio quality, and just solid content!
Solid numbers and I like that you compared them all. I haven't seen it or I missed it, but do you have a drugy or have you run at the drag strip to see your 0 to 60 and quarter mile time ?
Heaps of useful info 👍🏿 thanks for sharing.
The BEST1
little weird with that angle ...... beard.....
Your context`s in USA is in the needs...
Please keep going!
I'm trying to get to where u are but on my audi s3, still have a way to go but enjoy watching ur videos. Keep it up!
Nice!!!! The s3 is rad
really appreciate how detailed you get 👌
Thank you!
Love your videos bro.
Great job Charles. Thinking about installing an APR Stage 2 on my Golf R. 👍😉
I have had APR Stage 2 for over 2 years - no issues. WHP and WHTQ as published on the APR website are much higher than those shown in this video but I don't know if APR's are overly optimistic or really that much higher.
As always great video Charles very cool and quite helpful
Thank you
Really well done video. Thank you
Great video. Great explanation of the costs. I think I would stoop at Stage 1😄
That’s a great bang for the buck.
Congrats Sir on stage 2 upgrades. I love my stage 2 on the Audi A3 (2015). It is enough to keep pace or better with the 95 percenters willing to run it:). I completed every upgrade that you have in your videos except I went with full Borla exhaust rather than only the downpipe. Next up is a Brake kit and carbon fiber hood.
Have fun spending your entire 'rona check on a "carbon fiber" hood while us money savey enthusiasts with some basic high school shop skills are doing burnouts and making turbo sounds with homemade kits for under $700.
Love your videos keep up the hard work
Thank you so much!!!
Im considering getting one, and besides this upgrades I think I would add the sway bar like you suggested in your '5 must do mods' video, coilovers (lower it about 10mm) and blow off valve.
Then some astetics like front lip, spoiler, side skirts and smoke windows VW symbols and tail lights (would be getting in black)
Thank you so much for all your Golf R content, it rly is helping me in terms of deciding what car to get and what do do it indeed I go ahead with the Golf
Love your channel HM!
I just installed a full revo cold air intake and I really like how they did their turbo inlet. Looks like it flows even better than this IE one
Nice car bro. I have a audi s3, hopefully I can start doing some mods next month 🙏🙏🙏 keep it up!
I had a similar interpretation of my 2019 Mini JCW. I had a stage 1 and then went to stage 2. Stage 1 (ecu tune only) is how the car should have been from the factory where the engine pulled pretty stout and strong. Stage 2 (High flow 200 cel downpipe, uprated inter-cooler and stage 2 ECU tune), ok, now it's showing a hint of gnarly beast in there some where. I can see why the factory wouldn't necessarily need to sell it this way.
I own a 2010 Ford Focus due to needing a family car. Why am I hooked to these videos haha
Watching the premiere with you was awesome. I can’t wait to see the stage 2 driving videos. You should get a dragy so you can do some 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs.
That is a great Idea. My p3 has 0-60. I just don't like the idea of doing it on public roads and then posting on CZcams. HAHAHAH
HumbleMechanic yah that’s true the P3 is a good option. I think the dragy is still $140 on Amazon. You can always go to a closed course road 😬
HumbleMechanic you can always drive to Mexico. 😁
@@GermanEliteTuning as everybody do...NATURALLY...😎😎🤠🤠😱😱😂😂🤣🤣
Charles. I have did an IS20 withe IE stage 3 tune with the DSG tune on my VW Alltrack. This is hands down the best tune money can buy. I am shocked just like you at the power. The shop that did it for me recomends the NGK racing spark plugs you state bellow only above 400 horsepower. The stock ones gapped at 0.026 work better for us under 400 horsepower and is more correct. IE states this gap on their site for all engine tunes. Love your channel. John
Non of these jobs are hard to do,says the master mechanic lol,the R is now a beast,great video as always.
Hahah not hard just takes time. Well the plastic clips on the dang cooler were pretty dumb. Ha
Performance turbo inlet and stage 1 tune looks like the best bang for buck.
I love this channel
The United motor sport tune is fantastic. My clutch started slipping right away, but I put in a TTRS pressure plate w/ new OEM fly wheel and clutch disc. So great now
Nice!! I have UM on my R32. Probably going with their Haldex tune on the R
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the list of detial. Learning so much useful things from your videos. So many tuning brand on the market. Apr, Cobb and others. Don't know which one is good for me.
The big names do a pretty great job. Look to who may have the best local support
Great vid ! I have a Audi B5 RS4 with
Wagner Intercoolers
Milltek 3” full exhaust
MRC remap
Bosch 413 fuel pump
Bilstein PSS9 coilovers
H&R arbs
ITG panel filter
Running 490bhp and 517lbft torque.
It’s a slippery slope modifying cars 😂
Love your golf R and the colour is wicked
carl lynch MRC! Great company
We owned a beautiful Santorini Red B7 RS4 for 3 years until someone T-boned me at a junction. When I called my wife to tell her what had happened, and that I was in the ER but ok, she cried. - over the smashed up Audi HAHA. I'll tell you what though, that car was a frikken tank, and I'm glad I had that protection.
Stage-2 lasted me about a year before I wanted more...lets see how long it takes Charles;)
very good man
I want to know, who could ever give any of your videos a thumb down🤔? Awesome video, Thanks Again😁!!!
Thank you so much
My Stage 1 tune remap with completely modified intake (filter to turbo muffler delete) made the exhaust sound throaty! +80 hp and +100 Nm torque - SEAT Leon Cupra
Good video. To your point, Charles, about how important this piece is, it solved knock under load on a MK7 GTI Stage 1 and A3 8V Stage 1 as well - no other parts added. It improves flow at the turbocharger significantly.
so its worth adding to a Stage 1, in your opinion ?
@@JDDD33 I would say so. A known good product that will facilitate the increased airflow from the turbo is a good thing indeed.
Your instruction to change turbo is very good
Thank you
I would recommend anyone installing a stage 2, install a good catch can. Also another good upgrade is converting from the plastic sump to an alloy sump with cooling fins. They hold another 1.5QTS of oil, and drop the oil temp another 20F.
Awesome, just found out they also have muffler deletes for the previous models as well lol! ( MK6, & Audi A3)
Your job is-ab-so-lut-ly incredible, hats off! Thanks for all the DIYs and information. I have a question, I'm so worried about the OPF (otto particulate filter) because EGTs seems to be much higher than the non-OPF cars, What are safe max numbers? What about stage 1 with more pressure? And stage 2? I can see 950º easily in a stock car.
Hi Charles, thank for the awesome videos. I do have a question since you went to stage 2. I just replaced my clutch on my stage 2 GTI and now hearing about the bleeder block that might cause issues with the stock one. Do you have any input about this? You're suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks again for making these awesome videos.
Great video, one question though is it necessary to install an AOS or catch can on turbo’d cars like this one to keep intake clean and power at it’s peak?
Very cool! I happened to be watching the turbo inlet pipe video as this one popped up. Not considering cost, is it a good idea for the average person (someone without your expertise to fix the car) to go Stage 2 when still under warranty? Mine is only a year old, and I don't plan on going past Stage 1, but you never know what itch might pop up in the next couple of years. I've also considered waiting until the car feels "stale", which is about 3 years into ownership, and then doing something big to make it feel new again. Thoughts?
As always, thanks for the super helpful videos!
Love the videos, happy to have subscribed. I know this is taboo to ask because “if you’re worried about economy you shouldn’t be upgrading” well some do. Lol. I use my car as a commuter as well so my question is how much of a difference in economy have you noticed on highway driving? I’d love to get into some mods but with fuel prices sky rocketing where I’m from 110$ to fill this car adds up quick.
I'd love a yellow one just like it (except manual). Nice.
It’s such a great color
LOL - I don't have an R so I didn't know about Dyno Mode - that shot on the dyno was trippin' me out!
Lol it’s the most common comment
Looks good to me
i feel like you’ll end up adding more and more power to it, but we’ll find out!
Charles you are my favorite VW person and produce the best content on CZcams for us VW fans. But can you do a beard video please? lol
Haha beard video you’re say? 😜
Yes it’s all good as long as parts are made to with stand the added stress . My only concern . Interested in your verbal hp and torque # s
Very nice as always.There is more plastic in vw engine bay than in the oceans....IDK
What's the sound difference with the dsg farts before and after the downpipe? Is it alot louder?
Love your video
Hey Charles, you’re a legend mate your videos are top quality.
I’ve recently stage 1 ECU, stage 2 DSG and cold air intake with turbo inlet pipe but no pops or crackles :( which I was hoping for. I’ve heard there is a tune for pops and crackles without having to stage 2 with downpipe?
Is this true or would you recommend stage 2 with catless downpipe to get the noise? My only concern is this is my daily driver and I sometimes have clients in the car so don’t want the constant petrol smell. Appreciate your thoughts!
Got an IE turbo inlet for a customers car. Ported it and polished it. The stock inlet will now fit inside the IE pipe! Next restriction is the inlet of the turbo itself. You can see through the IE turbo inlet to a ridge of the turbo that is blocking some flow into it. Time to bust out the die grinder and get to work...
Nice power numbers. I guess metal really is more expensive. lol.
Great video Charles. Thanks for sharing all the details, and the price estimates. I’m hoping to get to the tuner here in the next couple of weeks to get all my parts installed and UM stage 2 tune for ECU and TCU. Doing the same IE IC and DP, but went MST for the intake and inlet. Hoping to get around 380 hp at the wheels.
I absolutely love my 16 GSW but I'm currently using it for my morning job as a courier and mpg is all that matters for the moment.
You are not going to get much worse mpg with the stage 2 tune on GSW, especially if you won't floor it all the time.
Hi, nice video. Do I loose my guarantee for stage one and how can be spotted if I bring my car in for service . Thanks
First time on your channel, loved the video, I did have a question as to why your car was only running it’s front wheels on the dyno, you do have an R so I was expecting to see all 4 going. Just wondering!
THANKS! We disengaged the Haldex
Awesome vid. As always! Exhaust upgrade next? 😁
I’m probably keeping it like it is. I don’t want it to be loud
@@HumbleMechanic That's understandable. I own the Hyundai i30N (european Veloster N) so now most other performance cars in that segment sound a bit boring to me :P The Golf R with aftermarket catback exhaust system sounds so good tho!
So many dumbasses out there rushing out to put a $1000-$2000 premade exhaust on their 26% interest rate credit cards when a sawzall from harbor freight is 30 bucks
You also should consider suspension mods, sway bar, engine mounts and possibly springs or coil overs
The big difference between Stage 1 and 2 wasn't really the peak gains but how much power/torque was gained on the top end. Looking at your dyno charts it was a significant gain. Since I have a 6MT I probably won't go stage 2 until I need to replace my clutch. At that point tossing in a downpipe is hardly any extra work. Honestly I'll probably skip Stage 2 and go straight to Stage 3...
I bought a Honda Civic Type R and I actually regret not buying a Golf R.Great car!!
The CTR is cool!!
2:57 I drive a 3rd gen RX-7 and use the Golf R as a daily driver. I spend so much time working on the FD that my ears heard you say "A lot of them RX-7s". 😵💫
Still planning on this being a daily driver or will it turn into more of your fun/track ride? I'm really looking forward to doing some of the mods to my 19 R. But thinking stage 1 and an intake/turbo inlet as I drive it 60mi a day back and forth to work...
Taking my GTI up to Chicago next week for an APR Stage 2 tune, and they told me labor on the downpipe was only $180. And labor on the software is $60, just FYI. Due to APR year end sales, hoping to keep cost for downpipe and software around $1500 (no DSG, keeping stock clutch). Already did the intake myself, so $1800-ish total fingers crossed.
Seems to me that stage 1 is plenty for daily road use, while stage 2 is more for someone who wants to track and do serious spirited driving, thus requiring better throttle response, better heat management etc.
My MK3 TTS is running ay 372ps and 445nm. Feels so much better
Would be very interested in seeing you do a Pedal Commander install, or alternatively your thoughts on why it might not be a good idea.
I did the Pedal Commander and its probably the most fun mod you can do. Also so is the rear sway bar. Of course initial Stage 1 upgrade is great too.
IS38 Hybrid time :)
How about a turbo muffler delete and charge pipes?
Great videos about the MKVII, really! I do think u need to change tuners. The torque/power graph is horribly bumpy!
At what RPM did does stage 2 really kick in? I hear it's 4.5 or 5k. So it makes the car feel slow daily driven unless your really open it up every time to feel the power. I like when it hits at 3-3.5 it makes the car more lively and fun to drive.
I was able to pick up an APR TIP and CTS Turbo inlet hose plus APR turbo muffler delete and turbo outlet hose for under $200. So I snagged those for the low. With APR Stage 1 and DSG tunes, I should be good with adding those mods. Stock right now, just with the tune. I will pick up an intake later, torn between AMS, Eventuri, or Unitronic. But I will pick that later. Just want to make sure I'm good with the turbo inlet/outlet mods while stage 1 with no intake.
@HumbleMechanic, got a question for you, on the IE website the stage 2 tune is advertised as 431 bhp and 466 btq for the 7.5R on 93 oct. fuel which should be around 380 whp and around 400 wtq which is imo kinda optimistic.
Your numbers are a bit lower then the advertised so do you think your numbers are lower because of the beta file or is IE a little bit over advertising the numbers? I am asking because I am considering to go Stage 2 either with IE or Unitronic.
I've got a mk4 Jetta 2003 I love my car it started having an issue I cannot figure out some times it will die but starts back up sometimes it will act like the battery is dead but you turn the wheel back and forth and it's fine other times my dash goes dead most times if the radio is on and you are jamming (lol) checked fuses battery fuse box is updated just looking for advice