Who is the more clutch Finals player: KD or Kawhi? | First Take
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- Max Kellerman debates Stephen A. Smith and Jay Williams about whether Kawhi Leonard is more clutch in the NBA Finals than Kevin Durant.
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Max: breathes
SAS: first of all you're wrong
What is the point in telling the same joke over and over again
NegativeCreep 44 😂😂😂
Me: You're a warriors d rider
SAS: you're wrong and here's why...wait you're right warriors will sweep the raptors
I GOT A VIDEO ON WHY KAWHI LEONARD WILL STAY WITH THE RAPTORS
Hahahahahahahahah Best One :D
Max: I love my mom
Stephen A: Max my brother I love you dearly and you know that but you're still wrong and here's why
😂 that’s a good one
My brother lol... I can hear him saying that
Yall be killin me with these😂😂😂
Wackkkkkkkkkkkkk 👎
"Kevin Durant, 7-foot assassin, can shoot from everywhere, can guard all positions, I mean this brother is special, Max I love you but you're wrong, you should love KD more than you love your mom, the lovely ms. Kellerman."
Max: Toronto is in Canada
Stephen A: You're wrong, here's why...
Max: Stephen I agree 100% with what your saying
Stephen: you’re wrong and Here’s why
This the best one 😂😂😂
😅😅😅😅
Stole my comment
@@aarickhill7569 and he got more likes.... lifes unfair
John Neka 🤡🤡🤡
literally, anything max says
Stephen A, you're wrong, here's why......
BmoreBirds22 and lays out a perfect argument and he’s always wrong.
And he usually says exactly what Max says but just in a different way.
@Saucy x Durant I think max is worse but nick wrong can get annoying when hes deep throating lebron live on set every day........tough call
Kawhi more clutch
BmoreBirds22 KD a bitch. I tired of this shit.
Max: "i think im wrong"
Sas: " your wrong heres why"
Jay Towerz this the best ☝️
Nice one
too true
haha this time he said "you're wrong, let me tell you HOW" this whole "WHY" meme is dead. has to be changed to HOW
Best one
Max been saying Kawhi was the second best player for like 3 years now.... He ain't just on a bandwagon.
Just 2 months ago he was saying Giannis was the best player
@@Joseph-tv9ik Yeah 🤣🤣🤣🤣 .... Giannis has to prove that he can win on a consistent basis before being given the title of "Best Player in the World." Max is basing his opinions on weekly performances, which is absurd. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Definitely wasn't saying kawhi is the 2nd best for 3 years consistently. I know for a fact he had steph as the best player in 2016 and LeBron number 2. Let me edit this comment to clarify. He had steph number 1 during the season and when cavs won game 7 he went back to LeBron being the best.
Max is on sum.
Reaper wrong
Props to max for not backing down lol because he was actually right
Indeed he was
@@ScoKnows not even close lmao
@@george4281 he crushed them fools boa
Big10 LoveGang TV with wrong points Kawhi not even close to kd in clutch
stfu
Max: Raptors Jersey’s are red
Stephen A: let me tell you why your wrong...
Jerry Ball You're *
Jerry Ball so corny
Jerry Ball there’s like 10 of you commentators that make the same joke every ESPN first take post. It’s boring now
KingJKickz Haley 🚨🚨 wee woo .. wee woo...grammar police has arrived
Lmao jerry
Stephen A literally proved Max's point during his section when he said, "Kawhi wasn't even a scorer, but he did put up 20+ the last 3 games". Thats exactly Max's point, on the biggest stage, where the games matter the most, Kawhi WILL show up and he WILL play out of his mind... Max took the W this time.
Savage Mcgee for real
J will is 🗑️. Get him if the show
Jay williams didnt even make an arguement he just told max hes on the kawhi train😑
No other argument needed.
Exactly Max is killing them
Noah The Boss of laughter about how stupid his arguments are
Max: I kissed your wife
SAS: Let me tell...wait you did what
Future 31 😂😂
Future 31 lmao
😅😂😅😂
😂
Could you send max back to boxing????
Stephen A. will never give Kawhi the credit he deserves
FinalSoilder2997 blame max
Stephen A. needs to stay off the weed
FinalSoilder2997 he's not better than KD
HE JUST GAVE HIM CREDIT GOOFY HE JUST KD MORE CLUTCH..
Not until KD makes a free agency decision
Kawhi clutch on both ends, can be the leading scorer and shut down your best player
Did he shut down curry when he dropped 47? Kawhi is really good but nobody can SHUT DOWN Kevin Durant
Chris Thurber stop he not better than kd
Traven Smith he didn’t guard him goofy, Fred and Lowry did. Kawhi can guard both of them
@@fatherfather2357 Yes he can, but he can't shut them down.
@@icetray2187 He dropped 47 on the toronto team and he only had 4 points on Kawhi the whole game 2 of them being from the free throw line and Kawhi barley guarded him that game don't look at what Curry averaged that game look on what he had on Kawhi only Lebron had nice stats against the spurs in 2014 but did nothing against Kawhi except for game 1/2
😂😂 Max got these boys mad with facts 💪🏾
It was annoying all the yelling for a couple minutes there.
The fact that KD played 12 min in scored a 11 points with torn Achilles and is not more clutch you waterbugs need to stop.
@@princetigerbeatz9316 If you actually think kd played with a torn achilles, you on a another level of dumb
@@Abbisch if u think Kawhi more clutch u on another level of crack
@@vkvsh_2k206 boooooooooo
Props to Max for being firm because he was right.
Steph __ Nah
Right? Before this year kawhi played 1 finals while kd played 3. What made kawhi clutch in finals over kd? Kd hit 2 game winning shots in the final while kawhi only played defense
joseph Henry getting carried by the warriors while Kawhi getting double teamed.kd wouldn’t play 3 finals if he wasn’t with golden state stop it.Even then Kawhi got 2 finals mvp faster and 2 nba championships.He didn’t need a superstar to do it.kawhi was actually clutch many times in the finals so put some respect on his name.Kawhi is a better overall player.
joseph Henry getting carried by the warriors while Kawhi getting double teamed.kd wouldn’t play 3 finals if he wasn’t with golden state stop it.Even then Kawhi got 2 finals mvp faster and 2 nba championships.He didn’t need a superstar to do it.kawhi was actually clutch many times in the finals so put some respect on his name.Kawhi is a better overall player.
@@prezian1312 before this take kawhi had one finals appearances with a loaded Spurs team... Didn't show any clutchness. This video air before the raptors won the chip..... I'm not gonna go back and forth on you now but before things aired out max was reaching. The question was who's a more clutch finals player and kd had 3 finals appearances to kawhi one... Kawhi played great defense on a loaded team one time and kd played great offense on a loaded team twice.... So this wasn't even a good segment
Didnt watch the video yet but max is gonna say KAWHI!!!!
Their brains just work differently. I get what Max is saying, and I get what Stephen A and Jay are saying, but Kawhi really has had to be the MVP on teams that could have and should have lost, whereas KD was the MVP twice on teams that never stood a chance of losing. Now, if KD comes back and leads GS to 3 straight wins? Case closed.
@@MandoGuerrero2 The warriors are DEADLY with no injuries. I can see them comin back
@@JadenApril "I can see them comin back" back to the reality pls.
Max is clearly a KD hater
@@ferryfernandus1423 The reality is the raptors aren't better than a fully locked and loaded warriors, sorry bud...
Max: Stephen A you are a black man!
Stephen A Smith: Let me tell you something brotha, you are very very wrong and here's why.
Big facts lmao
Max: Kawhi having a terrific post season
SAS: Prof. Kellerman, you're embarassing yourself and i'm gonna tell you how
I love how they cut it off right when Max Kellerman was making his rebuttal
Stephen A can admitt he was wrong 😂😂
Max destroyed the debate
Lol funny how max trying to act like durant being hurt and out doesnt change the playoffs and raptors fans love it cause if kd played it wouldnt even be a series 😂😂😂 nba fans crack me up .
@@jaybowman696 what cracks me up is people who give a superstar who, like the pathetic coward he is, joins a 73 win team all sorts of props because all they care about is being on the right bandwagon
@Sagar Thakuri u dont know basketball
@@johncastillo8551 lol bro this is the nba calling him names cause he is winnig chips 😂😂😂 you in your feelings im a laker fan but the facts are raptors got a break and caught another team hurt and missing their best player so there gonna win .
@@jaybowman696 Max literally said if KD played he would've picked the Warriors to win. Tf u talkin about?
I agree with Max. They're complaining Max is drinking too much 'Leonard kool aid' yet sounds like they drinking too much KD kool aid lol
KD choked under pressure. I still can never forget not closing out the Warriors after 3-1 lead when he played for the Thunders.
@@asiantrick24 we talking about finals first, second, your guy kawhi choked a 2-0 lead against kd's thunder so what is your point
@@george4281 in the wcf right?? Yeah kawhi got injured
@@asiantrick24 kd didn't choke Westbrook did
@@GODEXAULTS KD choked and fouled out
Max is absolutely right. It's easy to be clutch when you're ahead and light-hearted, cause everything gets easier, on the other hand is the complete opposite when you're under pressure
Max: Stephen A I think you’re right!
Stephen A: Well you’re wrong and here’s why
Aarick Hill Lol
Max is absolutely right on the money. This Stephen A n Jay guy always on KD bandwagon.
Jay Williams is the greatest PG in Duke history
@@PradigyMusicman yea... let him talk college ball.. he has no right to talk NBA when this idiot ruined his own career.. he a bum
Wdym max dickrides khawi to the max
Max hops on any players bandwagon but he will never acknowledge and give kd props
AHY SOM max on the bandwagon 😂 he swimming hard on kawhi wave lol
*I'd take Kawhi anyday.*
NBA Animations
No shit, KD embarrassed Lebron in back to back finals. Ruined his legacy, you just mad.
NBA Animations what🤔
BTL_ 007 “embarrassed” LMAO
BTL_ 007 embarrassed? LeBron averaged 30ppg with triple doubles In back to back series on great efficiency. How did he personally get embarrassed? He even outplayed KD, but KD was on the winning team.
@@btl_0072 the only person that 🐍🐍 embarrassed was himself when he ran to the warriors lmao
Finally I agreed with Max! Imagine Lebron going to the Warriors or even Harden during those championship runs ? Kd took the easy way out , he had 3 other stars playing along with him .
Facts
the segment question was who’s more clutch in the finals? Kawhi 1 finals to kd 3. Kd back to back clutch shots in game 3 while kawhi didn’t make any clutch plays in the finals.
Max: I got a haircut
Steven A. Smith: Let me explain why you are wrong...
Jay Williams (through tears): wArRiOrS iN sEvEn :( :( :(
Jay Williams is annoying
Lmmfao
Max is wild sometimes But it’s funny when Jay Will gets all heated and butthurt because he’s a NCAA Duke championship winner😅😂
Quentin Gartside Oml weak ass
Michael Hart he got hurt idiot
Jay Will in his feelings, trying to make it personal. That’s how you know his debate was weak. He also take Stephan A side every time. He lowkey D ride and go with anything Stephen A says even tho he was clearly wrong here.
Brandon Pitter nigga cause max is a pure dumb ass lmao he was even fucking with Kawhi when they played the bucks he was all on Gianna’s tip u remember? At least jay being consistent 🤷🏾♂️
Right now its Kawhi. KD has never come through when he has had the pressure all on him. He has played on the most talented roster in NBA history the past 3 seasons and in OKC he again played on one of the most talented teams in NBA history and got bounced in 5. Everybody is gonna cry injuries but going into this series EVERYBODY and their dog was choosing GS to win (I had them in 6) but Kawhi is proving everybody wrong. Man is destroying the Warriors while being double/triple teamed every possession .
Man stop it how the hell you gonna compare KD and Kawhi when KD aint even playing?
Lebrons 3-6 in the finals
@@othotheartist7688 Look at KD the past 2 years. It's not clutch to win finals MVP when you're obviously better than every other team in the league. It is clutch to knock off Philly Milwaukee and the defending champs en route to the championship
You actually don’t want basketball. I think you’re conveniently forgetting KD pulling up in LeBron’s face 2 years in a row for a go ahead shot in the finals.
You don’t know basketball just be quiet
Max: Today is my birthd-
SAS: Your wrong and here’s why!
You're*
Sas:" your wrong, and here's why"
Max:"I haven't said anything"
Honestly Allen iverson winning a game vs shaq and Kobe in the finals is more impressive then both of kd’s rings
Facts!
I actually agree with max
facts max was right
@Lorian Loth What's KD accomplished that's so great? Only time he wins is when everything is already in his favor, and Warriors proved they're just as capable without him for the most part against most teams
Manu Dorcil if Durant is not injured warriors would sweep the raptors.. kawhi on durant is like shooting practice they lucky he re injured his leg or else it would have been a blowout from the start.. EVEN Their own fans know it!!!!
KD proved the first 12 minutes of Game 5 that he's the man.
Thank you
Well I don’t know about that he played 11:57 and went down with an injury. You never talked about which finals.
That was a joke ok don’t be a ❄️
Tyree Branch no, Curry was the Warriors. KD left cause it wasn’t his team and he didn’t deserve those chips. Winning one with Brooklyn is worth 6 with those Warriors
@@TDB2509 who are you to say one of the greatest player to ever touch a basketball doesn't deserve the 2 rings with the warriors. That man worked hard for those rings. Draymond was a large reason to why he left. They possibly wouldnt have one those two without him. Let's remember they lost to the Cavaliers the year before without KD.
Max: KD used to play with Westbrook
SAS: You’re wrong and here’s why...
Kawhi averaged 18 in that finals actually
HBK - Jerzey.
But Lebron only shoot 34% from the field ! That’s bad..... i’ll give Kawhi alot of credit for that
HBK - Jerzey. Lebron average like 5 turnovers
HBK - Jerzey. Kawhi was still not the same player he was today and he shut LeBron that series
HBK - Jerzey. Kawhi was super young in that finals and it was only like his second or third year in the league and he had to guard lebron when he was at his absolute peak in Miami and still put up 18/6/2... I mean I think that’s pretty crazy
Kevin Freakin' Durant
EDIT: Max: "this is why KD needs to leave". Shut it up Max, KD don't need to prove anything to you.
asdfgh yes, he a snake
Need to prove it to the world 🤷🏽♂️
If we got by statistics it’s kd. If people like recency bias and made up narratives kawhi. He was a role player who averaged 17 ppg in the 2014 finals lol.
& you got raps fans saying hes more clutch than KD.... yall gotta be delusional or something buts its truly scary.
Ill tell you what, Kawhi wasnt the one who choked a 3-1 lead talking bout "clutch" where was KD.
Kawhi single handedly took raptors to their first franchise title EVER while being the best player in the playoffs and making several clutch shots! Now THATS CLUTCH and more clutch than KD will ever be.
Dolphin Godfather he didn’t single handedly do anything . Got a lot of help from his supporting cast. And kawhi did blow a 2-1 lead to okc in 2016..lost 4 straight. Or when they lost to the la clippers while he had a terrible series
@@SMDOP Kawhi choked on the free throw line when they were up against Miami with just a few seconds left before Ray Allen hit that 3. Smh
Bella lol I bet you guys look stupid right now
max kellerman: *exists*
stephan A: your wrong and here’s why....
*you're
Greatests SF of All Time
1. Lebron
2. Bird
3. KD
4. Kawhi
5. Dr. J
Looks about right.
Kawhi is mainly a shooting guard tho
Jonathan Marable 6. Scottie
Prince Hill Kawhi is never a shooting guard
KD lost to this Warriors team. Kawhi about to beat this Warriors team 🤷🏽♂️
Mr Loons not even the same team. not a healthy team. And a way worse bench.
Mr Loons Exactly.
Lmfao Kawhi is facing a K-mart version of the 2016 Warriors including no KD don't kid yourself
@@mrYsignal dude the bench in 2016 was straight up stacked with iggy and Livingston being effective back then. They are now old and injury prone and don't provide any scoring.
@DMN If you had any reading comprehension you'd know they aren't excusing the Warriors for losing. The original comment compared KD and Kawhi against the Warriors.
Jay Williams is the most condescending guy ever lmao, went out to eat with KD a few nights ago and always downgrades kawhi in any argument , pulling the “system” player analogies that KD used to say, they mad cuz he’s better.
He didn't say system player not one time
Tf are you talking about, Max hates KD and only talks down on him. Why didn’t you bring that up?
@@killmeinorder I guess Max just doesnt give him the hype because KD joined the Warriors and got 2 easy rings and FMVP. Kawhi's 2014 and especially 2019 rings mean more than KD's 2 rings ever could.
Max is killing these guys hands down💯💯💪
He got caught w/ that "career vs right now" comparison tho stephen a was right to bring that up
i never thought id see so many kawhi bandwagons.
This didn’t age well...
Kevin durant blew a 3-1 lead against the Golden state warriors in 2016 and join them after in the same year Golden state warriors Blew a 3-1 Lead against the Cavs recently kevin durant blew a 2-0 lead against Milwaukee bucks 2021 playoffs and Now Boston Celtics SWEEP 4-0 Kevin Durant/Nets 2022 playoffs
Why are they shouting at max when actually max ic 100% on point lmao
Kawhi more clutch than kd? What drug u on
@@vkvsh_2k206 its true tho. the only proof you need is the 2016 WCF where kd shut down completely. kawhi has never been unclutch
@@momenkhan8838 What happened in that second Heat series? Kawhi was up 6 with 20 seconds left and choked hard at the free throw line
Momen Khan u picked one game lol....HAHAAH crazy.
Momen Khan the question is who’s the most clutch finals player? Kd back to back game 3
Stephen A is representative of Golden State warriors always
Correction: You're wrong and here's why... He is a representative of whoever is winning.
@@vegan.violist Naah...Cleveland won it too... But he always lick boots of Warriors and Durant...Or Recently Raptors are playing well but he isn't giving them the same hype
@@bayzeedkakar7013 Good point. I remember in 2014 after the first two games he predicted that the Heat would win the series. Of course the Spurs had something to say about that... and I was rooting for LBJ in that series.
@@bayzeedkakar7013 because the Raptors doesn't have the same pedigree. The Warriors have 6 Basketball Championships. Compared to 0 Stephen usually only likes sure bets beyond his actual basketball expertise.
@@NotExplicable That doesn't mean you lick Warriors boots all the time...Journalists are supposed to be neutral
Finally, it upsets me that people don't talk more about what Max is talking about. You know how relaxing and easy it is to be dominant when you're good at something when you don't have any real pressure on you? KD hasn't proven anything we didn't already know before he joined GS and Kawhi is living what KD was supposed to be doing
it’s very funny how everyone is saying warriors need KD and could of won this series if they had him. But I don’t really see anyone talking about in 2017 playoffs when kawhi was injured by him landing on zaza is feet, but no one really knows what could of happened if he played the all series 🤷🏽♂️
Warriors went on a run in the 3rd quarter of that game. Warriors went on a run in Game 2's 3rd quarter.
If Warriors go on a run in Game 4 or Game 3, the series is 2-2. The Warriors beat teams by going on runs. And KD makes it easier to go on runs with his length of the defensive end and his scoring prowess in the offensive end.
Another point to make against that SAS team was that it wasn't as good as the current Raptors team. This Raptors team has Lowry, Green, Ibaka, Marc Gasol, Spicy P, Van Vleet and Powell. That Spurs team had Popvich, choke ass Aldridge, Ginobli and half dead Parker. You do the math.
Ahmed Salar yeah it really explains when Kawhi was playing they where wining by so much, the only reason they won because he got injured
Stephen A just yells and makes the crowd cheer but Max is actually right
Did u even watch the video???
Max is the one who make nonsense statements to make the crowd cheer
@@odaihussein6715 Exactly right lol
@@odaihussein6715 No it's just Max made good points about Kawhi and stated facts.
Josh Kupetz please learn bball
That vein on jay s head is about to explode 🤣🤣
Ertuğ Taşdelen got my boy jay fucked up
Max: " SAS you are a allstar basketball player"
SAS:" Your wrong, here's why..."
He actually averaged 18 points on 60 FG% in the Finals in 2014 when he got MVP, these cats are mad misinformed.
Lol with a team full of shooters and tim duncan in the post
That’s beside the point, the point is these mfs are telling bold faced lies or they’re just misinformed.
@@iNostraD Thank you Chivo he had and effective field goal of over 70% the whole series while guarding Lebron he deserved that final mvp and it's not even close what's even worse he didn't even take the most shots these analysts are so misinformed it's funny
Stephen a would defend kd if he scored 0 in every finals game because he's close with kds family deep down he knows Kawhi better
FACT!
Max answer that question hella quickly "Kawhi, not even close"😂😂😂
Kawhi is going against a injured team max! 🤦🏻♂️ literally driving with the what face while hearing him talk
Durant have curry klay and dreymond. Lebron had kyrie in 2017 finals and no second superstar in 2018 finals
HOW STEPHAN GONNA SIT UP THERE AND LIE‼️KAWHI AVERAGED 18pts and 6rbs on 60% from the field and 60% from 3pt range when he won finals mvp‼️‼️CRAZY HIW THEY LIE TO TRY TO HELP THEIR ARGUMENT WHEN THEY KNOW THEY’RE WRONG🤦🏾♂️😤
Dattboi J bro I said the same thing and every time SAS says he only average 14pts I put his stats in da comments I think it’s disrespectful that he gets it wrong and have no clue wat he’s talkin bout as a NBA analyst and I been waitin for max to call him out on it
ORyan Files yea bro I been sittin here waiting for max to call him out on his bullshit but he doesn’t l🤷🏾♂️
Tony Black silly bout wut⁉️Kawhi wasn’t at KDs level back then and I never said he was. Wut I have a problem with is the fact that people like Stephan A will sit on their shows and straight up LIE to people to help their stupid arguments🤷🏾♂️
@Tony Black what about fg% what about fga?? What about defensive stops? What about your role in the team??? It isnt just ppg, if it was that then harden is the best ever but it isnt aint it???
@@eNxO777x kd is averaging 31 ppg on 55 - 43 - 90
If KD was so clutch he wouldn't have choked a 3-1 to the Warriors in 2016. That's why he had to join a 73-9 team for easy rings
say it louder for the fellas in the back
Preach
Clutch FINALS player
The question is who is a better “Finals” clutch player tho...
@@willemdee lmao KD aint done nothing clutch in the finals
Max: smiles
Stephen: Max let me tell why you wrong 😂
Shout out to Max for holdin it down even though the 2 people on the other side are both wrong and both acting like Max was wrong
Max wasnt wrong you say....one word... Clippers🥴
I’m a fun guy. Obviously I love the game of basketball. I mean there’s more questions you have to ask me in order for me to tell you about myself.
Ι can ' t give give you a whole spill . Idontevenknowhereyouresittingat eh ugh UGH Ugh ugh eh eh
I don't even know where you sittin
Ehehuehuehue
W
I wonder who Max is going to pick
Stephen A will say 1st of all, you're wrong and lemme tell you why
🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
@Matthew Spurs hes not even close
Matthew Spurs what? Lol I’m not a Kobe fan...stay on your meds kid
I truly believe if you put Kd and the warriors fully healed and no inguries whole different series
No shit
Max: I'm wrong and here's why.
Steve A: Thank you Max!
Max: Since I started working here. I thought my name was "Wrong and here's why".
Agree with max ! Kd became super brave after joining gsw’s! Facts !
Amolak Bhullar super duper brave
Seriously though... How can he be considered clutch if you have never won before then he joins the team that beat him to stack the cards in his favor...
Best argument, if KD and Kawhi switched teams, KD wouldn't be leading the Raptors to a championship right now against the Warriors.
EXACTLY! Why is this so hard to understand??. KD has never faced doubleteems in gs. Kawhi has faced it all series long and look at his numbers.
Why wouldn't he?
@@ryanbaumgart9837 He's a front runner. Kawhi has lead the team with all odds. No one believed Raptors would be in this position (especially the American Media), but with all odds, he leading the way. KD needs the decks stacked for him to win. We'll never know if he can get it done unless he gets his own team.
@@mdewan1569 Toronto had the best record in the East last year. And I picked them to beat the bucks. So how is kd front running when they are loosing without him. Shows he's been carrying them when they need it
@@ryanbaumgart9837 Warrior's will forever be known as Curry's team. KD just made them unbeatable. Hopefully he signs somewhere else next season, so he can get more credit.
Kawhi? The same Kawhi that missed 2 free throws in 2013 before Ray Allen hit the three?
Marius Tataru if you wanna go that way then KD Blew a 3-1 lead against the warriors
and if you wanna go that way then in the series before KD blew the 3-1 lead Kawhi blew a 2-1 lead to KD while being on a 67 win team....
@@kevinflowers463 and if u wanna go that way gsw had to injure kawhi to win a game, and they had kd, idc if u say raptors r facing a kdless warriors, dat dont matter cuz they still have da same 3 main players dat were on da 73-9 team
Nicolas Fermin even if Spurs would've won game 1 when Kawhi got injured that doesn't mean they would've won the series. Gsw would've remained heavy favorites in that series for a reason. You go out your way to mention Kawhi's injury then completely dismiss KD being out this series lol....you think this current team without KD is on par with the 73-9 team? Yes or no?
@@kevinflowers463 did u not c me say dat da raptors r playin a kdless warriors? and i think curry draymond and klay have been playin better rn den dey did dat yr. and obviously gsw would remain favourites but spurs' confidence would b at its highest, blowing out dat warriors team at their home court, dis isnt sum we can rlly argue abt cuz neither of us knows wat couldve happened in dat series. but im jus sayin dat if warriors didnt injure kawhi dat series couldve been a lot different
Wasn't Max on Giannis' bandwagon like 10 days ago? Sheesh...lol
Stephen A smoking, he been taking L's ever since
No L here
KloserLook ‘ L bitch
Max , Durant is the best player on the floor by far. Not a good look Max. You're basketball evaluations will be not trusted criticizing Durant. He's a monster if you know ball
I disagree with max. But to be fair i think even he knows Durant is the better baller, but hes arguing clutchness
Kawhi actually earned his rings. Not like the snake.
KD averaging 35ppg in the finals is earning them. Its funny because if KD averaged 18/6/2 in the finals for a ring you would hold that against him wayyyy more than you are holding it against kawhi.
fact
@@kevinflowers463 still a snake
Yow Theng Lim yeah good comeback lol I bet you're a real knowledgeable NBA fan right? Lol
@@kevinflowers463 yea KD still a soft snake
Max speaking big FACTS
No he wasn't
@Steven Stocker nope
Max was right on this one....Jay Williams gotta stop swinging on Stephen A's nuts
@Jason Young for real. The show is super predictable. Stephen A get paid to disagree, but they are both articulaten enough to make interesting points on both sides of the argument. Jay Williams will have his opinion, but he has to get validation from Stephen A. Super annoying
@Jason Young he just likes to win the argument
Max:the raptors are in the nba finals
SAS:first of all your wrong and here’s why
I agreed on Profesor Max in every point he made, I do not respect KD aka "The Snake" though too.
Every single argument Max makes against the Warriors is always coupled with some kind of caveat or excuse.
KD is a great all time player, but...
Steph is the greatest shooter of all time, but...
Warriors made the finals five years in a row, but...
The Warriors might comeback from 3-1, but...
Jesus Christ. Stick to boxing with that fucking sneaky, elitist, Ivy League education, bro.
Kawhi ... Kevin Durant choked a 3-1 lead against the team he’s on right now case closed.
Justin Richardson
KD cooked Kawhi in the playoffs that year buddy. Sent his ass home
Justin Richardson that wasn’t the finals, remember kawhi missing those free throws that helped the heat comeback and win the title
BTL_ 007 no Kawhi guarded Russell not Kd and when he did guard Kd he shot below 45 percent
Justin Richardson kawhi choked against kd when he was in okc lol
@@Axel-ye8tt Nas it's crazy man I don't know why that series is bought up but they don't mention KD numbers against Kawhi not what KD averaged against the spurs, he did however cook the spurs as well as Kawhi in game 6 during the 4th quarter
Why are they even asking this when KD hasn't even played in the finals this season lmao
White T- Poison that’s the point they are arguing the wrong point it should be clutchness in general, max has the best example at the end before it cuts iff
Not even a fan of both of these team and I agree with you Max! Stick it to them!
Max: am wrong, sorry stephan
Sas: first of all you're wrong and here is why...
Max just ate SAS & Jay Williams lunch....in their face....without even asking.
No
Alfro Samurai Kawhi is much better than kd
@@noah_256. and you are a moron
Alfro Samurai and ur an idiot kd can’t lose cause he joined a 73-9
Grown man business
Max is disrespectful then I dont know what to Call Skip Bayliss.
blasphemous
Call skip Bayless “skip bayless”
That’s strong enough
Max: Kawhi is better than KD.
SAS: SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!!
@Shawn The Dominator 💯💯 fuck KD he is a bitch this same mf that ran to GS to join them after they whooped his ass, just to get a ring, that’s what max is getting at about KD and now Kawhi is about to have the same amount of rings as this bitchass nigga😂🤣😂
Twoofus0525 blah blah get outta feelings lil girl
@Thebeard 13 shut yo bitchass up pussy
@Trippy gameing 🖕🏾🖕🏾🤫🤫
If we wanna be honest, kd is better then kawhi, but that doesn’t mean kawhi won’t surpass him
damn, even espn had to cut this video short to try to save max
Max is pretty much spot on with this one. You can’t only show up when you’re on possibly the greatest team ever and be considered more clutch than somebody who has never played on a team nearly as good as you but has achieved nearly all the same accolades 🤷🏾♂️
So is he supposed to ride the cocktail ?
Aj Martin No, but that’s why everyone wants KD to leave. If he wins elsewhere, he’ll prove that his greatness can win championships whether he has a stacked team behind him or not
nahum.03 nigga when has Kawhi won by himself?
@@ajmartin6758 Don't even bother bro, Kawhi never was on a weak team and got blasted by KD when they faced eachother.
Max does got a point when he says their team is unbeatable so he can’t show he’s clutch
What made them unbeatable? It was KD
And you can't double him without leaving the 2 best shooters in the league open
that’s dumb as hell lol the shot he hit over LeBron first go round was a clutch moment, clutch shot. game was still hanging in the balance. people define “clutch” being last 5 minutes of the game but clutch is actually all the shots you take when are actually needed which was pretty much the whole game in all of the series because you’re taking it one game at a time. i give it to him where Warriors we’re clearly the better team but as far as clutch, regardless of what team you’re on you can showcase that anytime and KD has
Lmao this jay williams guy gets upset so fast he starts making that face
I hate him😂😂😂
Max ate them up this segment. He was prepared
Win or lose, there's finals has proven 3 things.......
1. Kawhi is top 5 superstar
2. KD's 2 rings now has value
3. There now a 50 50% chance he stays
Khalil MIA nah his rings still don’t have value because the whole team was healthy when he played and they played against way less talented cavs teams especially in 2018 nice try tho
@@DistortedPhoto96 the reason I said they have more value cause since he got there, everyone said they don't need him, now look at the situation. I'm convince if KD never came, Steph would only have one ring. Maybe none. cause just like Max and others, they don't give Golden State the credit for the 2015 title. They always said they stole it from Cleveland cuz Kyrie and love were injured
Khalil MIA you are forgetting that the whole team was injured this year kd aside and no I’m not even a Golden state fan but if they were healthy minus kd this would definitely be a different series
Kawhi been top 5 dumbass he’s now the best player
Max won this debate
How??? Tell me when did kawhi play excellent in the nba finals??? His first run he didn’t do much and missed the key ft. Second finals he got fmvp for his defense.....
Kd first finals he averaged 28++
Second finals he averaged 30++
3rd finals 35++.
Kawhi literally started doing this
Max is right on the money, KD needs help around him in order for him to thrive while Kawhi is doing it all on his own
KD maybe a clutch player? Hits the biggest game 3 shots in back to back finals...ok max ok
Max B thank you bruh and the stats they pulled up mid segment too max is something else 🤣🤦🏾♂️
He did it when he had steph and klay
Max: says or does anything
SAS: you’re wrong here’s why
There is not comparison. KD is a great talent. Very gifted. Kawhi is a true NBA player. KD can be clutch but Kawhi just want to win
No KD wants to lose ur right 🤦♂️
Loc T believe me. I like Kawhi 100 times over KD. However a 7 footer that can shot light out is gifted. Kawhi has the gift but compare with KD. He is not that gift. However he is a better player because he only cares about beating other team. KD is gay.
Charles Cheng Kawhi has Mj hands with a wingspan like Kd and he’s 6’7 and he’s stronger that’s gifted
Loc T Agree.
Loc T just try to be low key. Kawhi is the best. I know that
Supra's are clutch lmao ... Kawhi is not clutch sorry guys KD was out for a couple games and everyone forgot about him. If the Warriors had KD Raptors would of went down 4-0.. Not rocket science :)
Good good the edits are amazing I love how they managed to bring an actual prototype of an artificial intelligence with glitches into the video
Max answered that question so fast lol
Joey Bettafouco that’s how easy it is to answer this question
Because KD is a snake
Kawhi it’s not close
Max said that fast as hell 😂
Max is right KD could never pull the trigger thus the reason he left and went to the Warriors who had a stacked roster. Kwai defense played a major role for the team winning the NBA finals who Kwai had to guard one of the best ever King James.
lol lebrron average like 28points in the finals and shoot like 55% from the field. people act like leonard shut down lebron like wtf seriously ?.
And people forget that kd beat leonard 4-2 back when he was still in okc.. KD>leonard its not even close
this was actually one of the best first take arguments in a while