Why does BTS get mistreated?
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00:00 Intro
01:11 the mistreatment of bts
• the mistreatment of bts
13:24 Outro - Zábava
After watching this BTS hardship video, I hope you can understand more why some ARMYs are so protective.
yes! we're just so tired of people looking down on bts before even knowing them because of the stigma surrounding them, that's why we're protective.
Well if we look at the armys before we mostly kinda chill back in the days but we dont actually blame the other groups for their wins
“They might as well be their own genre.” Thats exactly why us armys call ourselves btspoppers, not kpoppers
and now they all be like “omg nctpoppers omg exopoppers blabla” it’s literally just them too💀
"they might as well be their own genre" and they are. bts have said that they dont like being limited into the label of 'kpop' and that their genre is bts
The thing is that kpop is not a genre is an industry
@@leonorsantos9103 exactly !!
@@leonorsantos9103 Yeah but these greedy companies mass produced groups who didn't have much diversity in their music so the industry was diluted with all these groups that are literally the same so it sounded like all of Kpop was the same genre and the Western media and overall worldwide media can't let go of that stereotype and since BTS is so different from these groups, they are really being pushed behind coz of this. So it's just better to call BTS their own genre coz the media be dumb af.
@@soboksobok9488 I agree in some parts but I think I might a little biased to talk about that since I am a multi lmao
what hurts is that this isn't the half of it and probably not even a quarter of it if you include the things going on behind the scenes/things they've not spoken out about
He should react to bts injured backstage moments, and yeah, it hurts
@@gigisty8974 if he can find a good one and wants to sure. it's just not easy finding those compilation videos where they don't just throw in the clips without context/replay the same moment multiple times between different moments (those usually confuse a lot of reactors since they haven't watched those moments in the docu-series and movies)
I'm kinda new to BTS and I would like to know everything that happened to them but I don't know where to find the sources
@@poubellemoche172 it's kinda hard to find everything (I'm sure even after years of being an army I still dont know most of it) but as you continue watching videos, watch their older content and interact with more fans, you'll probably find out things along the way
@@poubellemoche172 I'll help with the sypnosis: BTS debuted in 2013, in a small company Bighit Entertainment, which at that time is a low budget bankrupt company. So that time, the Big 3 companies (SM, YG and JYP) were ruling kpop and had much praises in media and entertainment industries while Bighit didn't get much exposure since company backgrounds are what mattered for success. BTS had large sales and awards and were already competing with powerful groups in those Big 3 companies in their rookie years so the media decided to burry BTS' achievements so it will seem the Big 3 is still in the lead. So basically BTS stood their ground, lowered their pride, even when they face mistreatments and disrespectful moments, they still gave their 100% efforts for the fans and because they love music and performing. Since BTS broke the rule of Big 3 who are the only ones allowed to win Grand Prices in Award shows in 2016, it brought alot of attention, positive and negative. BTS haters, also the Big 3 stans, knew BTS was a threat and threw shits at them to bring them down, but what happened? BTS' success grew bigger and bigger until they already surpassed the Big 3 in terms of impact, numbers, sales. Until now, BTS keeps growing and growing until they are no longer in that Kpop bubble. They always make music that escapes the sterotypes of Kpop. If you want more details go to xceleste channel and you'll see alot of compilation of BTS from nobodies to legends.
The hosts later admitted to treating bts worse on purpose and that they wouldn't do that now that bts are so big, but they never apologised.
It wasn't exactly a comedy show but the hosts are known to throw jabs at visiting artists. The thing was that they did a lot worse to bts than any other artist who has visited, usually it's just off handed jokes and stuff, but with bts the entire show was just "let's sh*t on these 7 boys".
Doni and Coni have been always this disrespectful under the guise of comedy and banter, they mocked the legendary INFINITE and still some groups say no ill-well of this duo and INFINITE consider them as "friends".
I'm just glad they didn't hit BTS like they did with other groups, especially girl groups.
If people who criticize Army for "coming for" people who are disrespectful toward BTS knew this history they would understand WHY Army is so protective of BTS.
The boys couldn’t be disrespectful towards these hosts, as in Korea, you can’t be disrespectful to older people or higher in position etc. than you. It’s just a cultural difference. Showing respect is a huugee thing there. If they had said something they would had been cancelled completely by the Korean public and citizens. I don’t think they would support their music if they had committed such “offence”. That’s why they couldn’t say anything to “Doni and Coni” (these “comedy”guys)
There is another video where they use like “hammer toy” and smack idol girl members so hard on the head. It’s really just painful to watch and how it was even allowed.
So sad and unfair
And people literally try to argue that it was a funny show, belittling everything, stating that Weekly Idol is boring and stale now cause D&C aren’t on it, and claim people who didn’t like the old hosts were too soft and didn’t understand the humour. Like hunny please, verbal/ psychological or physical bullying is not funny, and if you have to resort to that in order to be ‘funny’, then boy are you a sh*t comedian and TV show host. Seen countless of people under old Weekly Idol clips complain about D&C being gone because of ‘too sensitive’ kpop stans of different groups, saying D&C’s humour is based around being rude, Kpop idols expected it, and they probably don’t even care/ don’t take any of their words to heart. They obviously lack empathy and understanding basic body language signs if they think that some kpop idols didn’t care. They literally try to normalise D&C’s behaviour and it’s kinda disgusting imo.
Sorry, ranting here, I just remembered how people are trying to defend D&C. Like yeah, we aren’t the idols and we don’t know what they’re thinking, and maybe some really didn’t care, but you can clearly tell by some guests’ body language and tone of voice and mannerisms that some things affected them. It’s like defending a bully, claiming the victim doesn’t care and you just don’t understand that it’s funny to see someone else get torn down in front of everyone, that because they don’t see anything wrong with it, then no one should, and if you do you’re ‘too sensitive’.
Yeah that particular episode of the show at minute 7:30 is infuriating. The so-called jokes the hosts made and the edits of the show all seemed to be made to belittle the boys and make them look stupid and lacking talent, most probably because of them not being part of the Big Three. I don't know how some found the jokes normal, because even in the Korean culture, which is more tolerant to jokes than we are, they were actually not. And that rapper B-Free who called them girls for wearing make up is hated by all ARMY around the world. But you know what they say, KARMA is a b****. We all know what happened to B-Free and his online apology later :D
Now you gotta react to Born Singer. The cover of Jcole's Born Sinner. It hits hard.
YESS! Its one of my favorite BTS songs, the live performance with the spinny stage is iconic 🥺❤️
The nostalgia
Let’s talk about a company that must not be named was behind most of the fandom attacks and disgusting trending hashtags...
We all know what company is right?
that company is literally in debt right now and currently in trouble with the law for $18M tax evasion. talk about karma being an army lol
I'm kinda new to this, can you enlighten me please ?
@@poubellemoche172 Lee Soo Man's group
@@tiny_seven tax evasion* i guess he can finally put those bucks from under paying his artist to use lmfao bangtanvoodoo have no mercy 😭
"they might as well be their own genre" exactly. back in the day kpop stans 'banished' bts from kpop, they said they were an embarrassment and want nothing to do with them. this is why armys (mostly on twitter where kpop stans fight us) made a genre for bts alone, which is BTSpop. we don't see them as kpop anymore, but now that bts has gotten so big, kpop stans started to claim bts as kpop again, wanting their influence in the industry. they even claim bts' achievements as their own. kpop stans made fun of bts for wanting a grammy nomination and claimed they didn't deserve it, but when bts finally got the nomination, they claimed it as a kpop achievement and celebrated it as if its their own when they were against it at first, and its always been like that. they give so much hate to the boys unless it benefits them. and now that bts has gotten so big in the west, western stans send them hate all the time. its everyone against them: kpop stans, western stans, k-media; literally everyone. this is why armys are so loyal to bts. its bts and army and thats it.
ps. army are seen as toxic when we're mostly the ones who didn't start it. people only look when we retaliate and talk back, and turn a blind eye to the people who talked shit at first. i'll be glad to be seen as toxic when that's their mindset idc
no fr we'll always be the first one to be called toxic when we're never the ones starting these things. we're always just defending bts while other fandoms mass hate on bts unprovoked
@@tiny_seven exactly. and if i'm gonna be seen as toxic for not ignoring and defending the tannies then i'ma be toxic asf fuck them
:(( yess
It’s like if you get bullied and you fight back but you get in trouble for defending yourself. Kpop stans are insane
It’s all good lmao u don’t need to apologize
They are still being ignored by the media, a music industry expert said one of the reason mainstream media don’t like them is because their success came without the help of mainstream media so the media ppl felt threatened and got their ego bruised. You know there are reports on how most artists had to pay radio for the dj to play their songs even playlisting on streaming platforms needed some persuasion and since bts doesn’t need to follow those corruption in the system makes their existence is a challenge the industry norms. It’s also the reason why ARMY goes hard on social platform such as yt to promote BTS on our own because the media won’t do it
They are their own genre. That’s why I only Stan BTS
Same. BTS genre only, none others in my playlist. BTS+ARMY=LOVE!
At the end of the day ARMY only has BTS and BTS only has ARMY
For any ARMYs in the comments do you all remember before BE comeback a big account participated in a win money thing whoever had the most likes and all western stans, locals, and other Kpop stans were trying their best to make sure the BTS account wouldn’t win?
yeah. and the amount of racism directed towards bts from all those people.... honestly wish I don't remember it
Yeah I remember
it was hell
somehow when it comes to bts and army everyone wanted to police on what we should spend that money, but they were silent when previous winners spent money on themselves
@@oorubyroo the most stressful day on stan Twitter
Mrbeast I remember
The two guys where you kept askling if it was comedy: No it's not... they are known to disrespect Idols like crazy... the show is called weekly Idol and some Idols even called them out on camera... weekly idol is a lot of fun to watch especially when they use other hosts
It was surprising to me when i first started getting into bts and kpop, like half the kpop stans today got into kpop threw bts, so why are kpop stans so hateful to bts?//
The western industry is just straight up xenophobic and racist,, like a radio host refused to play bts' music bc its in korean but had no issues whatsoever with playing latin music, it made no sense. Anyways,, loved the reaction
Omg that is so true like I'm latino right but like it gets me so mad like how people say that they dont like kpop since it's in another language you know but like they are ok with Latin music like if your ok with Latin music I feel like they should be ok with other language music you know
@@elpotato1319 fr,, its so fucking weird,, like they'll listen to ANYTHING other then kpop
@@Bipeachul I feel like a lot people look down on kpop though dont you think?
@@elpotato1319 yea deffenetlu
Definitely**
I watched bts debuted back in 2013, I was not a fan of them that time (I was more into exo), but I did witness them being looked down by lots of ppl. Now it still breaks my heart thinking of it. When they first got the grand prize on MAMA, I remember reading one article by a music critic calling them cheaters and unqualified artists, saying that they were not qualified for any big award. I'm glad eventually they have proved those who have doubted them wrong. Yes they proved me wrong, and I will be their side till the end.
Me too i was an exol at that time☺and i witnessed many disgusting things that they had to go through..all the hate by other fandoms for no reason:((i will never be able to forget it
I will never understand hate towards sincere, good people. It’s amazing that they were able to remain as good people. Not even the stuff that are public, but past stories about the members we find out later from other people who used to know them, encountered them, or worked with them have sweet and heartwarming experiences with them. Even dating back their trainee days. Usually for celebs these days, we find out more if-y stuff about them.
Its ok bro,, it happends sometimes,, can't always find good videos,, love your reactions either way lol
EXACTLY!!! Like them people on the Weekly idol show really think they’re funny but they’re not. I was getting so mad when I kept making fun of Namjoon I never even finished the episode
if anyone ever questions why army r so protective of the boys when people come for them or insult them, just show em this video- like THIS . evrything they had to go thru mentioned in this video + moreeee is the reason why we are so protective over them. especially those who have been here since the beginning
Now You understand, why ARMY is so protectively and not like any disrespectful behavior to BTS.
There was history like bad behaviors and invidious hated.
Your reaction- videos is good and different style 😎😍💜
Even now there are still mistreatment of bts like on a award shows in korea they refuse to say that bts has a grammy nomination and also one time they didnt put jin in the photo of bts in award show but army got furious later on the added jin photo and that is in 2020 yessss they are already so big but they still not treat them right there are still many thing even people make fun of bts calling gay, girl, dont know how to sing nor dance, stupid etc. like wtf same as International music industry bts didnt treated well but i still keep remembering jimin said "idc in the award i just want army to be happy it doesnt mean that i dont want the awards but if i will choose between those two i would rather to be with army" and thats right thats what bts do like after award show in international like grammy bts refused to join the party and bts went on a live to talk with army and again that is not all this is just few of it not even half even they are popular now they are still receiving so much hate
This is so sad but still made me even more proud to be an ARMY and i will be an ARMY till death...
13:08 thats right. their own genre. YOU SAID IT BUT DONT LET THE KPOPPIES HEAR U 😂😂they hear someone say bts isn’t kpop and they get all pissy but the fact of the matter is, it’s BTSpop now and ain’t shit ppl can do about it
every time someone says btspop or bts is the genre a kpoppie sheds some tears 💔
@@tiny_seven it’s hilarious 😂
It must be hard for multistans :/
HAHAHAH kpoopies, remember??? Y'all kicked out us(ARMY) in kpop world back in 2018? Whatever success BTS have, it's nothing to do with y'all 🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺 it's BTSPOP YAAALLL
@@tiny_seven I'm cryin hhhhhhhhhhnn LMAAOOO
these mistreatment you're watching isn't everything that they experience, there were A LOT! i'm really glad they're not going to those variety shows and make their own already, i'm very glad bighit always think first of their artists rather than the popularity and money they're gonna get
Finally you're watching a good video
Bts has my heart, i don’t care about other groups. There are a whole lot more of issues and this is only a portion of it.
glad you watched a decent one lol. it's kind of sad how underappreciated BTS are outside of the fandom.
i hope no one is judging you for the previous reaction, it was not your fault but the one who made that weird ass video
What do you mean?
@@kimnamjoonsimp60 i’ve seen a lot of negative comments under the previous reaction💁♀️ and some of them were towards sebastian
It's not your fault at all. Don't worry
Righttttt
@@oorubyroo Oh
No one...i repeat no one will ever know how much it hurts us armys...how much frustrating it is...they're our emotional supports...when you see some armys saying that they saved their life..they ain't lying...i can't imagine being who i am today without bts:( they have helped me through tough times and all the horrible shit that has happened to me...they're someone who i look up to as role models...they make me want to be a better human being...all the hardships and hate they got or are going through deeply scares and scars us...we try and forgive again and again but we just can't forget all the shit that they've been through...the scars will always remain within us and we will move on but these scars will always be a reminder for us to work harder and be sincere for ourselves and for bts:))
Loved this video thank you 💜
Cool to see you taking a deeper look into their story. I think it gives a better understanding of their character knowing how hard its been for them. Kinda shines a light on why we are so protective of them lol
People will never understand the love Army’s have for BTS unless they know what they went through.
This is why Armys are so protective of BTS. As much as possible Armys are trying to spare the boys from the hurt they experienced during their rookie days. Before people are blocking them from getting opportunities and calling them talentless. And now they are trying to take credit of their success.
I love seeing you defend our guys. This is why Armys are so protective of them. and yes, BTS is their own genre. Welcome to the Army my dude! Love your reactions 💜
it's BTSpop world domination.
I'm a newer ARMY myself and I didn't know most of the stuff that was mentioned in this video. However did I know about the whole B Free incident and as a RM Bias I was furious. But after watching this it really shows me how poorly they all were treated and still are being treated by the whole music industry. Then again, It also shows me how calm and rational they all were and are when dealing with hate. Any of them could have lashed out because of a harsh statement at any time but instead they all stayed professional and respectful under pressure. It really is inspiring to see how they handle each hateful and disrespectful situation even though they don't deserve any of it.
I think I can speak for all ARMY when I say. All of ARMY will stand with BTS forever and face every obstacle side by side because together we are truly bulletproof.
and next is AGUST D AND D-2 mixtapes reactions 🙏
one day 💔
Now I understand why armies are overprotective over bts💜💜💜
I can't believe I have never seen that video. Was a lot of fun watching with Sebastine, oooh the outrage.
The people on the TV show, weekly idol, were terrible! They were also horrible to some girl groups for 'laughs'. F them. And, the comments from B Free and the other rappers to RM and Yoongi are PAINFUL to watch!! I am so glad that BTS has a Grammy nomination to rub in their faces!!
ayyyye, this is a good vid! I think BTS is just extremely fastinating because of the absolute quality of music, stories, and mvs they put out + their underdog backstory. They're just a really inspiring group if ya know what I mean :D
It's okay you can always react to more better videos u r new to this ✨
WELCOME TO ARMY!!! Your anger to BTS being mistreated shows me your a loyal & caring fan which is the first sign that you've joined the fandom lol💜😊💜 Glad to have you aboard😊💜😊💜 Army for life!💜💜💜💜
4:05 literally make me cry. They are everything to me from start to now i love them alot alot alot. But this point hurt me really very much that no camera or proper preparation. How bad!
Ok but why did I know exactly what you were going to say😂I only watched a couple of your video but really I know you by heart 12:42
I just got emotionally wrecked again and my anger just got refueled. It has always been just ARMY AND BTS VS EVERYONE ELSE. We gotta stay strong for our guys, because our power will only work when we're hand in hand with each other. ARMY for life.
well, now you know why we feel so protective of them. they went through so much and we just make sure that none of this shit happens again.
This is the reason why I can never really trust anyone else apart from ARMYs and BTS, especially other fandoms (even though many of them claim that they aren't anti BTS, they'd be at our throats the moment something happens and blame us for literally breathing)
When i watch this all i remember how many similar instance were was and it makes my heart burn. There is also so many Korean culture context missing that makes all this so much worse than it sounds in western culture terms.
There is so much hate around BTS and ARMY for years that even ARMY is basically choking on it. When BTS were powerless they were exploited and abused and called nobodies. When they gone higher than anyone before them in k-pop industry they still are bashed. This time for being too successful that it makes everyone else insecure.
And yes ARMY is defensive. Super defensive, cause we always had to be on defense from the start, so even now when we grown into powerhouse on our own, we still cant relax. We still in defense mode, cause we never were treated fairly. And as much as k-pop fans like to lie to themselves and others that it is ARMY who acts entitled and showing off and because of that are not liked. Facts are ARMY is just not trusting and defensive cause they never gave us any reasons to trust them. ARMY and k-pop fans history is full of disrespect, vicious attacks, propaganda company against ARMY and BTS, constant backstabbing after we gave new leaf it a try. ARMY is tough, cause they made us to become so or be obliterated. ARMY don't forget or forgive easy and that is a bed they made for themselves so i my book they should just suck it up now. Same korean entertainment industry gets nothing from BTS anymore for years, they made their bed also.
You should check out The Most Beautiful Life Goes On, and if you want an even deeper dive into their start, The Rise of Bangtan series. The Rise Of Bangtan is a fan edited/compiled documentary of BTS’s journey. I no joke wait weekly for it because it’s such a high quality edit and super comprehensive. BTS has so much footage out there and it’s overwhelming to go through them all, for new ARMY like us this series is great if you want all the details that are hard to find now.
YES BTS IS THE GENRE
The reality TV shows make my blood boil😤. Very very very disrespectful. Shouldn't treat anyone like shit just because they're not your cup of tea😏.
But thank you again for reacting to this video with us. 💜
Firstly , good morning you look like you just woke up
Eye-💀💀✋
'THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE THEIR OWN GENERE" - NotSebastine, Feb 5, 2021
Enough said.
That's why Army say they are btspoppers. We are not kpop fans. BTS is their own genre
"they might as well be their own genre" This is exactly why ARMY's will correct you if you call BTS kpop. They are not kpop anymore. They're risen above that. They are BTSpop and ARMY's will continue to say this until the media get it. We will not allow them to be associated with the industry that tried everything to tear them down. BTS are South Korean artists now (the way we explain it is, you wouldn't call Beyonce, Michael Jackson or Ariana Grande R&B and Pop, so why would you call BTS kpop? They are their own people). Some international news publications have adapted this when writing their articles, but k-media and kpoppies still call them "kpop". We're still working to stop this from happening, but it's a long process.
I wasn't sure I would like you reactions but I realize you are Army so hi love you!! Now you know why Army fights so hard for BTS.
Someone had already said had already sent this in the comments but this is exactly why Army is protective of BTS because bullshit like that
U say it bruh, as it should be!!
In those variety shows kpop idols get treated according to their position, big and famous groups will get treated like kings, but small artists will get trashed
This one is a good video 🌚
Yeah that particular episode of the show at minute 7:30 is infuriating. The so-called jokes the hosts made and the edits of the show all seemed to be made to belittle the boys and make them look stupid and lacking talent, most probably because of them not being part of the Big Three. I don't know how some found the jokes normal, because even in the Korean culture, which is more tolerant to jokes than we are, they were actually not. And that rapper B-Free who called them girls for wearing make up is hated by all ARMY around the world. But you know what they say, KARMA is a b****. We all know what happened to B-Free and his online apology later :D
You can see they felt uncomfortable in these videos, its heartbreaking to see
SHOUT OUT TO THE TRUE OG ARMY BANG PD!!🥺 He has always believed in ours boys & he never gave up on them !!! ❤️❤️
Yeah yeah this was a great video!
There are still people making videos about the hair and stuff from when they first came out ...I'm a black female I get it but people make mistakes it's when you learn and change that matter but even now they still get hate over it
Ou the hair looking clean!😎
" They might as well be their own genre"
THIS IS WHY WE DONT LIKE TO ASSOCIATE BTS WITH KPOP. OR THE FACT WE SAY WE DONT LISTEN TO KPOP WE LISTEN TO BTS POP LOL. Cause no matter how much effort BTS putts in, people still dont wanna admit their power , we always get nothing but jealous hate.
same feels bruh , same feels
Exols and blinks: the one who carry the hate
The rest of kpoppies: share it and laugh at it
When ARMYs clapback: haters will cry n call armys toxic
Sebastian I think you would like the Karma is an Army videos
"the might as well be their own genre." SPEAK ON IT CAUSE THEY ARE. THEYRE BTSPOP.
I liked your video.
Now i wanna see you react to karma is an army😏🤭
I really loved it when he dissed those bullshit mcs🤣
I love ur videos
Also "BTS Hardships" By XCELESTE
That show which Tony and Konny.....I really hate that ep ...Ik they did all that disrespect without knowing but still It was too much ....😔
i love uuuuu my guy
"They might as well be their own genre" so I see you're a BTSpopper 😁
The most painful for me is when a young Jungkook was disrespected by a tv show called Flower Crew. How badly he was hurt and humiliated. How he begged the Army not to vote for him so they won't be mad at him. How they didn't say sorry but they just justify their actions. If you want to react or just watch it here are some of the clips:
(Flower Crew)
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The point about SM is a really good one.
BTS didn't become big because of kpop rather despite of it.
SM made the label toxic and bts have to fight to this day against the toxic stereotypes the big three are responsible for.
and this are just a few of the things that they have done to them..
i haven't watched the video but is ee bts I click like
i see bts, i like
ahhh i watched the video im so triggered
LMAO tho about the fact that the former video was age restricted.
Was this one instance where u took off your shirt?
Those two hosts from weekly something is so rude. BTW, was that Shindong from another boy idol group that kept questioning about uniform...? That's disappointing.
they were goofs, wasnt even funny
Shindong’s an a hole tbh
Please also react to Hardship of BTS from XCeleste.
Ah this narrator has me nostalgic
What video was this
This is why in their early career they addressed haters through their music - for your question in previous videos as to why they always talking about haters. I mean hell they could still drop some cyphers now cos no ne is trying to letthem be great apart from Army and the industry can't stand the fact that they have no part in BTS success and can't claim it as their own.
React to t he last by agust d
I would like to point out that in large part, the problem is the company and not the idols in it.
Even the leader of the group Twice Jihyo said that BTS opened doors to western culture.
Bts also has several friends from these big companies.
Bts is also a great inspiration for new Kpop groups and these groups have BTS as a goal
This is why ARMYs love and support BTS. We are not fanatics we just love and cherish BTS. They have impacted so many lives, have shown how to be better people, to accept yourself, love yourself, and in turn love each other. They are amount the funniest people I have ever watched and listened to. You should watch "Run BTS" and "BTS Bon Voyage". These are their own variety shows. Amazing. Dearly love all seven.
and the fact BTS allmost forced to disbanded in 2018, CRAZY SHIT
Good reaction
I didnt believe the INFINITE-buying stunt by SM when it happened, i even thought that INSPIRIT were just butthurt coz woolim will be under SM.... but now, i do believe it. Look what happened to Infinite (and Apink) after woolim became somewhat part of SM....damn
i was waiting for that tv show with JK in it but at the same time i'm glad they didn't show it in the video because it makes sad every time i'm not the type of fan who always comment about those stuff but that tv show with jk how they treated him was really fcked up...
Yeah that girl in the other vid was being very extra😭
The hosts in the variety shows got what they deserved. Doni and coni were fired from the show and to this day we aint ever forget their treatment of our boys and other idols. People have to remember this for future days, ARMY NEVER forgets and ALWAYS remembers, we keep them receipts😁😁