I actually like both bikes a lot, but I am a big fan of the Ducati. Will be rocking mine for the foreseeable future. I wouldn’t kick either one out of the stable! I currently ride street only and the Ducati is painful on many levels, but so are fingernails on the back, teeth to nips, or hot wax to the abs! It is strangely gratifying!✊🏽💸🥴👍🏽
I always wanted to buy 2016 r1 after riding it i bought 2017 cbr1000rr instead you should definitely test ride the 2017 cbr1000rr feels like 600cc bike with 189 horsepower 😁
@@Ishdeepsingh_ Panigale v4 weights 436lbs or 198kilo and r1 443lbs or 201kilo. Powerwise v4 is much more powerful and faster at the straight line. As far track days go r1 is much easier to ride fast and for the average rider, it'll be faster because how easy and smooth it is. Panigale v4 pulls to violently. It's hard to manage it mid corners. But I heard Ducati fixed the issue with the 2020 model which got v4r's chassis and much smoother throttle map. But I never rode so I can't confirm if the bike is better now.
@@Fearless154 bro correct me if I'm wrong I ducati is all powerful , I don't think what you just told about R1 out of what I heard R1s power delivery is insane , I'm not sure about the top end , but R1 from the start to the mid , the power delivery is abrupt and I've heard riders say that you could really feel the power compared to other bikes like zx, bmw and the others. Like I said am not sure but from what I've heard and known R1s power delivery is definitely not smooth , like that's the characteristics of of crossplane engine. Correct me if am wrong dude
@@ragul6356 I"m talking about track riding, not the street R1 is powerful in the mid-range but it makes the power linearly and predictably. R1 is a bit snappy in lower rpm so riding in traffic can be unpleasant but when it gets going it smoothens out. On the track, the engine is smooth and easy to use plenty of grunt in a very controllable way. characteristics of cross-plane are. sounds like a v4 engine and it produces more midrange compared to flat crank inline 4 but a slightly less top end. it doesn't mean it's not a smooth engine.
I was in the market for both. I bought the 2021 V4. It had the power to back the looks. I justified part of my decision as: If I'm going to pay nearly 25k for a bike, It's got to look the part. The R1 is a great bike, but I feel the design didn't stand out from other Japanese bikes enough for me. You've uploaded this well over two years ago. I hope you're still enjoying the R1M
Correct. I had sold it to cover the negative debt from the Ducati’s when I sold all 4 ducatis. Ducatis were just not it for me. Thanks for watching. I really did enjoy the r1m, as much as I didn’t care for Yamaha.
Had a 2015 R1.It would never start,spent more time in the dealers than riding it,then had to have a new gearbox fitted,I just got my money back on it.Got a v4 now,it’s got the oil leak from the oil cooler,and the clutch needs bleeding every 100 miles,maybe these bikes are just not developed enough before being released.
Damn, well first, thanks for watching. The 15 vs the 18 R1M is night at day in my eyes, the only reason I bought it. My V4 has had its fair share of issues as well. Yes, a recall for the oil cooler was just released. Seems they cut a lot of corners sometimes to save weight..
The Speed Bug yea man I want trying to get that new 20 beamer too many production problems. Thanks for the info though and I got my notifications on and ready for yo next vid✌🏼
I have 2015 s1000rr with HP4 rims. My next pick would have been the V4 2018ish or R1 2020 what you think? Stay on s1000rr and keep adding better parts or?
I would NOT trade that bmw for a v4. You will hate it. the R1 is cool, but not friendly low on the street with that crank. Keep your BMW of those two. As I had all of them at the same time. Thanks for watching.
As much as I dislike Yamaha, I liked the Yamaha the most. As far as leaning the Ducati, east to ride, the Yamaha, nimble the bmw, brakes Ducati, gadget bmw, ride home, Yamaha.
I've ridden both bikes and for the street, the Panigale wins hands down in my opinion. The R1M's spongey feeling brakes, aggresive riding position, no power in the low to mid range, choppy throttle make it tough to enjoy on the street. The R1M does look great though and is around 25% less to purchase. I will admit the heat off the V4 would be the only downside for me on the street though.
@@JVSKRR-is7qr Aprilia RF is very smooth and is comfortable, handlebars are better angle for street riding, easy to ride not got the heat problems of the Ducati
SB Awesome analysis on both Beasts its simple for curious viewers if you want a street / track beast the R1M will cover both vs the Duc which is a track weapon but not so comfy on the street .From my own exp my 15 R1M did not like low speeds unless it was short shifted the bike & was on the throttle to be smooth I am talking about 1/2 gear under 5000 RPM .The bike was tuned by a reputable shop
Thanks for watching. My bmw would whoop on all of them in a straight line. Add turns it’s a different sorry. But each bike is better at its own think. Then owner has to make the best decision for them and the application.
v4 engines are always slimmer then inline 4 motors on bikes, for obvious reasons, 2 cylinders wide instead of 4 , makes a difference in terms of seat position
The Speed Bug what has broken so far my man? Just curious. I have a 2018 XDiavelS same as yours in white. Just hit 1300 miles on it . Curious to hear from ya
From all supersport that i had and had chance to ride...V4S would be one of most comfortable. Part that I dislike a lot was heat under seat...even if you ride fast it is there. On side note u ride basic model V4 and i had chance to ride both and it is big difference. You are also comparing V4 vs R1M. If you should to compare you should compare it with V4Special. R1M and R1 I hated for the street seat is to high 875mm position is extremely aggressive compared to all others and that bike was made for track only. Throttle response is terrible even after dyno tune and remapping. What i do like is sound and agility. S1KRR was very comfortable and very good overall bike for day to day but lack excitement same as all other IL4. RSV was fantastic for track and its ok for street. Sound poorn...
Thank you for watching and your comment. The heat from the Duc is ridiculous. No matter what, it's there. R1M seat is very tall, and i find it to be more comfy than the V4 in my opinion. Throttle before and after my tune was night and day, I am very happy with the outcome. I have had the V4S as well. Here in the video is the base. I actually prefer the base over the S, my preference. S1k is still the best ALL AROUND superbike. RSV is nice and has great sound, in my opinion I think its has to be one of the most ugly bikes almost ever made, but a solid performer cant argue that. Ride safe my guy.
Honda-CBR-1000-SP2 O issues!!! O- heat, O -Recalls- Excellent Street/Track Bike !!!! I wanna ride when I finally get the time!! Not deal with problems. It took 30-min to do a full exhaust swap, not 12hrs Ducati wants!!
Which bike do you like better? Which one do you think is better?
Looks goes along way for me. Ducati still is the best looking out there.
Looks for sure, the Ducati wins, keep in mind when riding, being shallow bites you in the ass sometimes.....
R1M reliable and that crossplane engine sound(sounds like v4 of rsv4).
I actually like both bikes a lot, but I am a big fan of the Ducati. Will be rocking mine for the foreseeable future. I wouldn’t kick either one out of the stable! I currently ride street only and the Ducati is painful on many levels, but so are fingernails on the back, teeth to nips, or hot wax to the abs! It is strangely gratifying!✊🏽💸🥴👍🏽
I always wanted to buy 2016 r1 after riding it i bought 2017 cbr1000rr instead you should definitely test ride the 2017 cbr1000rr feels like 600cc bike with 189 horsepower 😁
Love the r1m looks amazing but so does the v4 hard choice but r1m for me 👌👍
All your rides are gorgeous 👌 I really appreciate your no nonsense honest review
You are welcome. Thank you for watching. More to come.
Wow you have all of my dream bikes on your garage.... Felt like a heaven wish I had any one of it❤
Thanks for watching
If you really want to feel like you are cornering, go for R1 (king of cornering & easily adapts to corner)
Rode a V4 today and an R1 a few days ago! And they were both amazing!
Both very cool bikes. Thanks for watching
Which fastest and lightest ????
@@Ishdeepsingh_ Panigale v4 weights 436lbs or 198kilo and r1 443lbs or 201kilo. Powerwise v4 is much more powerful and faster at the straight line. As far track days go r1 is much easier to ride fast and for the average rider, it'll be faster because how easy and smooth it is. Panigale v4 pulls to violently. It's hard to manage it mid corners. But I heard Ducati fixed the issue with the 2020 model which got v4r's chassis and much smoother throttle map. But I never rode so I can't confirm if the bike is better now.
@@Fearless154 bro correct me if I'm wrong I ducati is all powerful , I don't think what you just told about R1 out of what I heard R1s power delivery is insane , I'm not sure about the top end , but R1 from the start to the mid , the power delivery is abrupt and I've heard riders say that you could really feel the power compared to other bikes like zx, bmw and the others.
Like I said am not sure but from what I've heard and known R1s power delivery is definitely not smooth , like that's the characteristics of of crossplane engine. Correct me if am wrong dude
@@ragul6356 I"m talking about track riding, not the street R1 is powerful in the mid-range but it makes the power linearly and predictably. R1 is a bit snappy in lower rpm so riding in traffic can be unpleasant but when it gets going it smoothens out.
On the track, the engine is smooth and easy to use plenty of grunt in a very controllable way.
characteristics of cross-plane are. sounds like a v4 engine and it produces more midrange compared to flat crank inline 4 but a slightly less top end. it doesn't mean it's not a smooth engine.
How’s the clutch action compare between the two? BTW thanks for the comparison. Is that oil leaking from the V4?
No oil leak yet from the v4. Clutch is quicker to snap on the v4
Nice vid dude 👍 For definativly r1m
Thanks buddy, thanks for watching.
I was in the market for both. I bought the 2021 V4. It had the power to back the looks. I justified part of my decision as: If I'm going to pay nearly 25k for a bike, It's got to look the part. The R1 is a great bike, but I feel the design didn't stand out from other Japanese bikes enough for me. You've uploaded this well over two years ago. I hope you're still enjoying the R1M
Correct. I had sold it to cover the negative debt from the Ducati’s when I sold all 4 ducatis. Ducatis were just not it for me. Thanks for watching. I really did enjoy the r1m, as much as I didn’t care for Yamaha.
It’s not always about speed it’s about How comfortable when you’re riding the bike so I preferred to That r1m And I think V4s is too overprice
Thanks for watching. You are 100% right, it is also about how comfortable you are on the bike.
Had a 2015 R1.It would never start,spent more time in the dealers than riding it,then had to have a new gearbox fitted,I just got my money back on it.Got a v4 now,it’s got the oil leak from the oil cooler,and the clutch needs bleeding every 100 miles,maybe these bikes are just not developed enough before being released.
Damn, well first, thanks for watching. The 15 vs the 18 R1M is night at day in my eyes, the only reason I bought it. My V4 has had its fair share of issues as well. Yes, a recall for the oil cooler was just released. Seems they cut a lot of corners sometimes to save weight..
ya 2015 r1 had a gearbox recall
Good thing there was a recall.
Hey man I’m new to the channel did you do a vid comparing the r1m and the s1000?? I’m trying to decide which I wanna buy thanks man!!
I haven’t, but old s1k better street bike, r1m better track bike.
The Speed Bug yea man I want trying to get that new 20 beamer too many production problems. Thanks for the info though and I got my notifications on and ready for yo next vid✌🏼
I have 2015 s1000rr with HP4 rims. My next pick would have been the V4 2018ish or R1 2020 what you think? Stay on s1000rr and keep adding better parts or?
I would NOT trade that bmw for a v4. You will hate it. the R1 is cool, but not friendly low on the street with that crank. Keep your BMW of those two. As I had all of them at the same time. Thanks for watching.
@@TheSpeedBug cool thanks for your advice. So just dyno tune and get more cool parts for BMW
Is there a good aftermarket exhaust for the R1M?
Brocks (I have), Akra, plenty out now.
Which is a better track bike among new S1000RR, R1 and Panigale V4 for scoring low lap times in race track ? And why ?
As much as I dislike Yamaha, I liked the Yamaha the most. As far as leaning the Ducati, east to ride, the Yamaha, nimble the bmw, brakes Ducati, gadget bmw, ride home, Yamaha.
What tune did u get to fix the r1 throttle I have a 16 and I need that
Self tuned, thanks for watching
Hevent ridden either... but im buying a 21' v4s.. or 21' R1m..sat on them... im about 6'2... what do you guys think i should go with?? Cheers!
R1, thanks buddy for watching
I've ridden both bikes and for the street, the Panigale wins hands down in my opinion. The R1M's spongey feeling brakes, aggresive riding position, no power in the low to mid range, choppy throttle make it tough to enjoy on the street. The R1M does look great though and is around 25% less to purchase.
I will admit the heat off the V4 would be the only downside for me on the street though.
Thanks for watching my friend. Valid points. Valid points. Appreciate your input.
Not really video related.but which bike is better for street and track. The duc v4,or aprilia rf? Planning to sell the Bmw rr or just keep it.
Both are TRACK focused, if you ride a lot on the street, you will miss your bmw a lot
@@JVSKRR-is7qr
Keep the BMW its the best street superbike for now then come next year sell it & buy the new 2020 S1000RR
@@JVSKRR-is7qr Aprilia RF is very smooth and is comfortable, handlebars are better angle for street riding, easy to ride not got the heat problems of the Ducati
SB
Awesome analysis on both Beasts its simple for curious viewers if you want a street / track beast the R1M will cover both vs the Duc which is a track weapon but not so comfy on the street .From my own exp my 15 R1M did not like low speeds unless it was short shifted the bike & was on the throttle to be smooth I am talking about 1/2 gear under 5000 RPM .The bike was tuned by a reputable shop
You are correct, that crankshaft is rev happy.
Btw, Which bike do u own? And Which bike do u love more and why??
Had both. V4 was the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever bought
I have the 2021 V4. I ride it on the streets...almost every day. feels comfortable to me. Ducati V4
Glad you like it. But I think it will ware off quickly. Congrats on your new bike, thanks for watching.
DAMN bro how many bikes you got? Great collection of bikes.
Thank you very much, thank you for watching.
@@TheSpeedBug no problem love the bikes
That R1m is my dream bike, i really the gsxr1000 and that s1000rr
So which is more faster and powerful R1m or V4 or BMW??
Thanks for watching. My bmw would whoop on all of them in a straight line. Add turns it’s a different sorry. But each bike is better at its own think. Then owner has to make the best decision for them and the application.
@@TheSpeedBug Thanks for ur review buddy😊😊but who will be faster if all are stock??
If you know how to ride properly, than R1M .
What do you think of the new beemer?
Had it and sold it it. Made a few vids on it. Check them out. Thanks for watching
So which one did you like better for street riding?!
neither sold both, but if i had to pick R1. Thanks for watching.
v4 engines are always slimmer then inline 4 motors on bikes, for obvious reasons, 2 cylinders wide instead of 4 , makes a difference in terms of seat position
Thanks for watching, that is tire, but this also come with a consequence. Just as an I line 4 does.
How do you like the diavel
Thanks for watching. Its great when its not broken.
The Speed Bug what has broken so far my man? Just curious. I have a 2018 XDiavelS same as yours in white. Just hit 1300 miles on it . Curious to hear from ya
From all supersport that i had and had chance to ride...V4S would be one of most comfortable. Part that I dislike a lot was heat under seat...even if you ride fast it is there. On side note u ride basic model V4 and i had chance to ride both and it is big difference. You are also comparing V4 vs R1M.
If you should to compare you should compare it with V4Special.
R1M and R1 I hated for the street seat is to high 875mm position is extremely aggressive compared to all others and that bike was made for track only. Throttle response is terrible even after dyno tune and remapping. What i do like is sound and agility.
S1KRR was very comfortable and very good overall bike for day to day but lack excitement same as all other IL4.
RSV was fantastic for track and its ok for street. Sound poorn...
Thank you for watching and your comment. The heat from the Duc is ridiculous. No matter what, it's there. R1M seat is very tall, and i find it to be more comfy than the V4 in my opinion. Throttle before and after my tune was night and day, I am very happy with the outcome. I have had the V4S as well. Here in the video is the base. I actually prefer the base over the S, my preference. S1k is still the best ALL AROUND superbike. RSV is nice and has great sound, in my opinion I think its has to be one of the most ugly bikes almost ever made, but a solid performer cant argue that. Ride safe my guy.
Honda-CBR-1000-SP2 O issues!!! O- heat, O -Recalls- Excellent Street/Track Bike !!!! I wanna ride when I finally get the time!! Not deal with problems. It took 30-min to do a full exhaust swap, not 12hrs Ducati wants!!
Very valid points. Power is not everything. Valid points.
How about the sound ?
Thanks for watching, what about it?
@@TheSpeedBug which one do you like ?
I don't know why the kathi has single-sided swingarm bikes but there MotoGP bikes are not. That's always puzzled me.
For ease and speed in the pits.
Yamaha is yamaha and she is my baby R1m❤️ she is the championship in moto gp
Thanks for watching
yes R1M for me i love the look of the v4 its just not enjoyable unless your going fast.
Truth. Thanks for watching
R1M ❤️
Solid bike, but it’s still Yamaha issues.
R1M 😍
Thanks for watching.
Was that an oil leak on the Ducati at 1:00?
No oil leak. Appreciate you watching.
Um.... No. WTH is wrong with you?
Ducati V4S
Great bike for the track! Thanks for watching.
V4 is the fastest stock bike. V4 isn't just an Engine, it's an Emotion, it's a Feeling❤️ I will buy a V4 for sure
Thanks for watching
@@TheSpeedBug No problems
No words for v4 🤍🤍🤍
The v4 and 1000cc are too much for the road I will still prefer a zx6r or a daytona anyday for riding on the roads
Thanks for watching. I don’t blame ya.
R1m all day
I enjoyed it for sure. Thanks for watching.
I just can't depend on a yamaha.
Lmao 😂. Thanks for watching. Many others too
Euro bikes are just a better versionof china made bikes that are over priced. Japanese is always the king when it comes to bikes and cars
Haha! Thanks for watching.
what a silly comparison
Mind explaining why you think so?
Yup..dont compare it,just buy what you like..
auto blip???? LOL that's a useless feature. If you can't do that manually, that's sad!
Thanks for watching. Sure, you can turn it on and off.
Ducati v4 is an over priced and over hiked bike. Nothing else.
It’s was pretty, I sold it, I don’t miss it at all.
I have ridden Yamaha R1M and the Ducati V4R....both on track and on-street professionally. YAMAHA IS SHIT !!!!! DUCATI IS KING !!!
Fasho, thanks for watching