Israel's F-35 vs Iran
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Where can I find those memes?
Its not easy to fight a enemy you don't have enough info about fact remains Israel stands no chance against Iran only US will come to Aid & other allied countries but right now the world is too mult-polar to risk counter productive war like this one & US will gain nothing on this.
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Not the stealth makes expensive the plane...
Just check the price of the F-15EX...
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Yes, and mostly inaccurate things...
The main drawback of getting your stealth aircraft shot down is the memes.
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I highly doubt it.. not impossible.. . But not likely at all.. they are more stealthy then the Wf 22 raptor.. and have a vast array of jamming technology, fire Forget missile systems.. they will never see it coming.... Do not compare the F 117 to the f 35.. .. that's a stretch..
It's so hard to find military & political non biased channel nowadays,and this is the only channel i really enjoy the videos😃
The downside of the channel is he doean't post that much
CaspianReport and Covert Cabal does the Job quite well.
@@mohamedelmoussaoui5531 Yup agree
He's biased as fuck towards tye west it's obvious, if you can't see it it just means you agree with his bias.
@@xerogue well the west is more advanced technologicly, that can change when china rise
Pretty good and unbiased. Hard to find these days.
And not a shitty robot voice
@@Sedna063 I hate that shit!
He's always neutral and often criticises US policy, hardware, tactics etc.....
I also watch newsy for the same reason
@@gooner72 no I've heard some bogus info before from him on Iran, for example.
The number of missiles is one that comes to mind. They have many many thousands of the short range Fateh type and hundreds of the larger Sejil and Shahab types. That's just one example that comes to mind.
A few things to note:
1) It's not cheap but it's not crazy expensive compared to other capable platforms. The F-35A (the version Israel purchased) costed the USAF ~$82 million each in 2020. That's a very similar cost to a 4.5 generation fighter in the F/A18 Superhornet and the latest F-16 models.
2) The real advantage of the F-35: SENSOR. FUSION. The amazing capabilities of the F-35 allow it to act as forward air controllers for other assets such as guiding in missiles launched by submarines while being undetected. They also have amazing jamming capabilities with their radar being as effective as dedicated EW aircraft in some circumstances. This is where the F-35 pulls ahead of the competition and I'd really appreciated it if Covert Cabal talked about the sensor fusion capabilities a lot more!
IIRC, he did talk about it in one of his earlier videos. Sensor fusion isn't something that only the US has, although it is ahead of others at the moment.
As for the price, it's not just about the price of a single jet, it's also about logistics. Tech teams need way more time and dedication to make an F-35 ready for action than it takes them for an F-16. RAM needs to be applied to the jet, because its design alone isn't enough to make it as stealthy as marketed. This takes time and it also increases the maintenance costs, as well as making maintenance more difficult. High-tech isn't cheap and it's not easy. Otherwise, everybody would be doing it. The Russians have the same problem with the Su-57. It simply doesn't fit their military doctrine. That's why the RuAF prefers the Su-35. It has all the advanced sensors and avionics, but it doesn't require as much attention. And it's the same reason why the USAF is getting the shiny new F-15EX.
@@DragoBoss Mark my words. F-15EX will be a missile truck.
IAF rips out tons of the internals, sensors/hardware/software etc. They put their own inside. Their f16s are far beyond that of USAFs in terms of technology and any electronic warfare capabilities. Let alone the 35s
Correct.
@@B01 the Israeli’s plan to use their F-35 for another purpose we are Allie’s they’d give it to us if we wanted it but the Israelis specialized their F-35 basically to another variant
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@Peter Russellwhat were they gonna do - fly their jets halfway cross the world to convince the terrorists to give up? America was no where to be found when Osama bin Laden was trying to build nukes too, which resulted in Operation Opera.
@Peter Russell in the same place it has always been, in the middle east
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The last time I was this early the Middle East wasn’t a war zone
Back during the pre Roman era
That was a really long time ago.
@Intel Guru actuelly before islamic conquest bezytine and sasanid empire had 30 years war, and herculis was planning on invading the sasanid empire again.
And during islamic role the middle east had it golden age and was relativly peacful before the monglian conquest and crusders
Internet didn't exist during the Garden of Eden dude
@@randomuser5443 Assyria: Am I a joke to you?
In short: Stealth isn't magic. Which isn't news, even to casually interested observers.
@Drew Peacock It's interesting there are false positive and false negative detection signals, never mind failed tracking thereof. The Lightning II is a devilishly clever pocket rocket.
@Drew Peacock Trump was and is a populist to his core.
@@zykom1 Detection is one thing. Having accurate enough tracking info to fire upon and hit is a completely different matter.
@Drew Peacock By the time a fighter gets into range of the F35 which is BVR. What do you think will happen. You people make it sound like the F35 won't see them coming a million miles away. Talk to me after one gets taken out as you suggest. Until then I have 2 words, Prove it!
@Drew Peacock Are you a Brit?
Funnily enough, the same argument was given for WW1 battleships (to a point), and certainly for the Yamato-class battleships of WW2 - they were just too expensive to risk being lost to send into combat!
Not totally the same, battleship's problem is at its core not with the stealth fighter which problem is component (price). Of course, it's more expensive but it also opens more option for the attacker which 4th gen simply can't do it without lost even more than 5th gen (especially pilot). Stealth is just another tool, the new tip of the spear to help break enemy defend first before other, more venerable assets get in.
@Drew Peacock I love when people talk about how planes should use swarms of suicide drones. That's called a missle dude, you just want to make smaller missiles
@Drew Peacock any drone with effective ew suites, loitering capability and all the bells and whistles you just asked for is going to cost as much as a missle anyway and even if you go for the cheapest possible drone, which is buying one from the store and strapping a grenade on it it can be taken out by a cheap shot gun round, military airbusrts round or flak used back in WWII. They can also be shot down by Lasers which are getting cheaper by the day and electronic pulse weapons. It would be more effective to try and make a glide bomb with cluster munitions that disperse far away from a target but are guided by the most basic flight controls. Or use small diameter bombs shaped to not reflect radio waves without adding stealth coating.
@Drew Peacock I'm not sure you understand. Just about everything you said should be on the drones are already on missles and glide bombs. We have surveillance drones and attack drones right now that cost more than actual fighter jets. What you are suggesting is basically a missle with different propulsion systems and made more complicated by giving it the ability to RTB
@Drew Peacock actually yes glide bombs can attack mobile targets. IR imaging and other targeting systems can the guide bomb/missle track a target by itself and the plane that launched it can use data links to feed it targeting info mid flight. We've had missiles that do this for 40 years glide bombs that do that for 25 and the SDB II can track moving targets aswell and only costs around $30k-$45k. In order for your drone idea to work the drones have to be able to fly at least 1000 miles and cost less than $250k then we have to engineer recovery systems for bombers which would add to the cost and having bombers loiter would waste fuel and be in danger of interception. If you ditch the bomber recovery system you have to double the range.
HARMs are already effective as they should be, they can air burst over targets and the decoy radar idea doesnt make sense we already know what chinese and Russian radars "sound like" and making a decoy radar is a waste because if you'd ad a few parts you can just have a real one. Half the mission of HARM missle is to force enemies to turn their radars off so we can get closer and kill the site with glide bombs and cheap SDB II.
Saying the US is solely focused on stealth is inaccurate. For example, the USAF just bought the new F15-EX/CX and their goal is to have it work alongside the F-35
Especially with how good the f35 and its engine is proving to be.
Those F-15 are being bought because the F-35 they planned to get instead is being produced very slowly.
@@Franfran2424 they also bought them to replace the aging F-15C/D fleet. In about 2 years the F15C will be retired
Holy Cow! Somebody knows what they are talking about! Salute!
@@Franfran2424 nope ,f35 can get closer to targets ,the missile mule (f25ex) gets info from f35 and fires ,it's a missile mule , beautiful partnership
I find that people tend to forget that the F-117 that was shot down flew in a known attack path which had enemy radars locked on and expecting it. It also flew without it's electronic warfare escorts, further enhancing the risks that it took. Modern 4++ gen fighters come with ECM capabilities either built in or in a pod. The F-35 has ECM capabilities built into and could fly with other Electronic Warfare aircrafts and work with AWACs for missions that requires stealth.
If they were stealth their path wouldn't be known no mater how many times they used it. ECM are a flaw for stealth planes, they make normal planes being spotted sooner let alone the plane over which you have spent millions to make it almost invisible. RQ-4 has the same/even better ECM since it lacked maneuverability but still Iran shot it down.
@@itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242 "If they were stealth their path wouldn't be known no matter how many times" I don't know if you were aware but stealth doesn't make the plane invisible, you can still hear and see the aircraft
@@itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242 this comment shows a lack of understanding. ECM is only meant to break the enemy's potential for a good radar lock, forcing manual launch of SAMs which is ineffective. ECM however increases your visibly range by 2x. The path can be known even without the visible ECM pathing because of the multitude of missions flown prior can be traced by the enemy to begin with.
Being spotted vs being targeted are two completely different things. Once you're spotted, you expect an air sortie which doesn't exist because in the case of the F-35s being supported by the F-22 would have already shot down the incoming aircrafts. Then lets say we have a combined strike group with F/A-18s and F/A-18G Growlers, F-22s, F-35s, F-16s, and F-15E or F-15EX.
The most likely scenario is the F-35s penetrate enemy defenses and take out early warning and important fire control systems. F-22 supports the F-35s while also shooting down aircrafts at BVR. F-35s datalink with F-15EX and take out all enemy fighters BVR, F/A-18G is in-charge of scrambling enemy radar to confuse enemy on direction of attacks, numbers, and other ECCM (Electronic Counter Counter Measure, yes that s a thing). F-16s and F/A-18s and F-15Es are in-charge of delivering the mission package.
In this scenario, an enemy like Iran would literally be obliterated because they can't even get a shot off. You can SEE but they can't fire. Even the S-300s and S-400s would have problems shooting down F-35s without proper targeting radars. F/A-18s can carry HARMs and shoot in the general direction of the radars blindly. This suppresses the enemy radar as turning on would risk a HARM locking onto the radar radiation.
And say they do turn on and fire, given that they can land hits, the number of F-35s available would be replenished rapidly since they have been built to be mass produced.
Capabilities combined with the ability to be mass deployed makes the F-35 almost omnipotent against low tech nations like Iran. But nations like China and Russia would have more ways to deal with it, although at a very high cost.
@@marcosburgos8415 Stealth doesn't make the plane invisible, it makes it harder to be spotted. The main use of stealth coating is that you don't have to fly low to avoid enemy radar so no one will be able to see and hear you(and of course thinner air up there has less drag)
I only meant that phrase of "known path" doesn't match stealth, either they would never find it or they shoot it the very first time(if it gets too close radar can find it)
@@kerblingtime Thank you for the highly intelligent explanation. People forget about combined arms and focus on one narrow aspect as if they are supposed to work alone. Gulf War 1 is an obvious example although drones are going to really be a game changer. Have a great day Kerbling Time.
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@@LjubomirLjubojevic It won't work if covertCabal enables his stealth technology button :-)
The F117 that was shot down had it's bomb bay door locked open after dropping it's payload. They were stuck and wouldn't close killing it's stealth capability. Why wasn't this mentioned?
Doesn't change the fact it was shot down.. malfunction or not.
No plane is invisible.
@@barbosaguzman6101 it was shot down due to the fact that it's stealth was compromised he still should have mentioned it had its bomb bay been closed for all we know it would have made it out
Shooting down a single stealth fighter didn't stop serbia from losing the war. Nor did Iraq even have a chance, the first or second time.
A fairy tale.
@@spartanx9293 doesnt matter
How can a multi million dollar plane that has more inspections and servicing than ordinary commercial flight planes end up having a malfunctioning door.
That's my point....
Still shot down regardless and how convenient to make allegations of a faulty door.. and again I reiterate... no plane is invisible.
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They didn't fly over iran it was Beirut. They knew because they took a picture.
Good video bro
The propaganda value surrounding stealth aircraft goes both ways. If the Serbs can brag about shooting one down then Israel can brag (through classic Israeli back channel fashion) about not being detected and shot down. After all, why spend so much on an aircraft if you’re not likely to use it in battle, and you’re not willing to use it for propaganda?
@Pouty MacPotatohead agreed
@Pouty MacPotatohead If you want peace, prepare for war.
@@blazinchalice dulce bellum inexpertis
If israel were to fly a physical airframe over Iran and lose it, then not only Iran but Russia and China would both analyse the aircraft for capabilities. They may even reverse engineer it, conditions of sale from the united states would prevent their use over Iranian territory.
@@quokka7555 like they don't know everything about it hahaha
Iran's suprime leader is not "khomeini", khomeini was the founder of I.R.I and died almost 30 years ago
Current suprime leader is "khameni iee" "ka me ne iee"
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I have to say your videos have become more thought through and unbiased, deffo gave this vid a like. keep it up.
On top form again mate, fantastic content as always.
Good grief. The U.S. is constantly upgrading other aircraft to fill many different roles. To say that they are putting all of their eggs in one basket is a ridiculous statement. Not the first one either.
for example the f15ex
Also arguing that the US in particular is putting a lot into stealth is strange. There isn’t a large power on the planet that isn’t currently spending billions developing new stealth aircraft or building them. The US just happens to have the most since they’ve been making them the longest.
Sadly Kuwaiti news article worked to some extent. People with no military or even basic common sense used to tell me how Israeli aircrafts reached Iran. All I had to say was where did they get the fuel from ?
They could have easily refueled over iraq with a coalition tanker
@@_____Justin______ Iraqi's would leak info. Remember Iran has assets all over Iraq
@@_____Justin______ They do it all the time.
And no you wouldn't see them moron.
They refuel at high altitudes.
@ what a stupid comment. Refueling at altitude makes no difference to the radar cross section of an aircraft. No they do not refuel over Iraq "all the time" because Iraq refuses entry to the Israeli air force "all the time".
Considering you think Irans radar systems couldn't see a refuelling tanker because they are at altitude, kind of proves you are the moron...
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Time (specifically time enemy has to react) is the variable that must be crunched. Seeing you later reduces this, but speed does as well. Hypersonic craft and projectiles are going to be hard to deal with, as even unstealthy ones give little time for response.
Truth is that Israel don't need F-35 to knock off Iran in the air.
That's hilarious
Iran has f14
Excellent analysis!
Good video, and infomative. Interesting topic.
"US seem to be putting all their eggs on one basket" yeah that's the only basket they want you to know
what other secret technology do you think they have now?
@@alf3071 No one knows. But if we stay with Israel, they had the Pereh tank since 1980, and it was a secret for over 30 years. It was armed with 12 Spike missiles with 25 km range. Since it was based on the old M60, it would be no suprise if they had a new variant based on the Merkava/Namer chassis.
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And if we talk about aircraft, no one knew about the Stealth Hawk which was used during the Bin Laden raid. And according to Ben Rich (former chief of Lockheed Skunk Works) they're way, way ahead. Like 20-30 years. All behind locked doors until anything similar comes up from the enemy.
They built some crazy stuff. Just look at the D-21 drone, which had its first flight in 1964. Had a speed of Mach 3.3 and a range of 5600km, and could fly autonomously (a pre programmed route) - and that isn't classified. Imagine what is.
Well, advanced hidden tech aside, it looks like USAF is going to diverge from high cost monolithic platforms in the not to distant future because it is unfeasible and to costly to develop and implement in a timely fashion. However, some of that hidden tech u guys are referring to did show up in the form of them announcing possibly a 6th gen prototype existing that was designed virtually not that long ago. Crazy times to b living in!
@@alf3071 6th gen fighters. Plus 5th gen trains with 4th gen in tandem to account for the low numbers. Their strategies are already aware of this. I used to talk to pilots everyday as i was a crew chief and launched them out. Was friends with a few as well since they were cool peeps with us.
@@guitarninjarick8179 not diverging it was already part of the plan.
The comment section war are 10 times bigger then the actually war (if it even happened)
Change my mind
Lmao,there are already a war happened down there lol
lots of comments are praise about CC being relatively unbiased, and happy about that. Me included.
That's how modern wars should be conducted. Comment sections, memes and good old breakdancing crews.
And so many modern warfare experts with actual experience contribute.
@@SailfishSoundSystem indeed great idea no more lives lost no money wasted on silly military hard ware
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Dacia 1100 or 1300? fighter jet jet stealth.
Oh no!
Anyway
One day he'll change the background music and we'll all be confused.
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Important point to note here is Iran was able to TRACK and then force land a stealth drone. That drone is a LOT stealthier than an F35.
Long wave radars can detect stealth targets from a long way off but are not good for targeting them. HOWEVER if you have a number of these radars then advanced DSP can paint a pretty good picture of the target and you can guide a missile towards it. This coupled with active radar/IR missiles and your stealth plane is going to have problems.
They just used a simple trick with GPS guidance where you make the drone think it's landing at a US airbase and not an Iranian one.
So I guess Israel is that kid on the playground that would say. "wanna see me run to the top of that hill and back... wanna see me do it again" LOL
pros and cons as everything should be, good to see objective video
One of the most concise explanations there is without having to explain the signal processing or the physics of radar very well done. People don't really know what is meant by invisible it just means that sensors lose track of the object easier and make it harder to destroy. Of course the frequency at which targeting radars need to provide enough information to track is the frequency range that is most optimized for the stealth geometry and stealth material absorptive properties. Another is radar jamming which is very good on the F35 since a lot of air defense radars rely on radar returns from a ground radar which is stationary and more prone to jamming by the radar that just uses it to actively send incorrect returns in that direction. This mainly has been countered though given that information gathering sites usually sample from multiple radars and make multiple angle decisions to track the target along with active sensors on the missile itself or passive sensors that hone in on radar signatures in general.
2:33 why is B2 not put into A Batman movie and called 'Batwing'? It is so perfect for the dark Knight! But what would he carry in the flying wing? Bat snacks for Scooby Doo, such as the ones from the Dynamic Scooby Duo Affair?
Even Bruce Wayne can't afford it.
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0:12 This looks like one of those meme montages where the object is moving through a still picture.
Very fair and unbiased . Shows you have knowledge.
He doesn't know s***
“No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength.” Moltke the Elder
I've heard it stated as "No Battle Plan survives first contact with the enemy."
Bruh, it's "Iran", 'I' pronounced like in "Italy" not "I, run".
I'm not even Iranian, but that's just painful to hear.
Nah man, its actually E-RUN
Dude you should watch a MadTV skit about iRan and iRack.
@Mehrdad Kia youre right, my bad i didnt read his comment correctly, thanks for the info
@@DanielK1213th the iRaq is on fire!
How did I escape Iraq? I ran
Best part of having stealth aircraft is the likelihood that that same nation or nations have also figured out radar to detect it. F117a is also the oldest stealth tech
Actually the story about that F-117 being shot down is pretty interesting. A great example of one side with the advantage getting to complacent with their strategy, and a well trained sam crew who new what they were doing, that also adapted their strategy. Also, like how the guy ended up being a baker and made little F-117 shaped bread, lol! Pretty cool how they ended up meeting each other eventually.
lol the US was way to complacent and didnt bother running jamming craft with it.
F117 was detected due to the opened bomb bay doors. They can detect the stealth but they dont have good resolution.
nah, it was detected because it didnt have the accompanying jamming craft and flew in a well known position.
@@honkhonk8009 watch the interview by the commander that was manning the SAM battery
That's what Israel said that they strike Iranian targets . No has ever verified their claims. I guess u shouldn't believe whatever some countries says they do to other countries
Hundreds of Iranians actually died,Btw Israel says nothing,Syrian Government and Syrian opposition did.
@@yakov95000 but you are claiming as if you have a first hand information instead what isreal claimed? We all know isreal sometimes they over stated the actual situation on the ground. If Iranian are dying like as isreal are claiming then what da hell are waiting to retaliate back or u think Iranians can't do so ? Bb have been lying about iran but still he can't fulfil his promise to attack iran what is he waiting for or is he waiting until when iran gets the bomb? Tell him if he wants to fight iran let him go to Iran itself instead going to bomb Syria . Syria is not iran and Iran is not Syria.
Great video :)
Stealth isn't an invisibility cloak, it just reduces the detection range to such an extent that long and medium range air defense systems have no time to respond before eating standoff munitions.
I was watching my friend play battle field 4 when I saw him crash the f35. He was surprised I even knew the name of the plane. He was even more surprised when I told him the price haha. Thanks CC.
Bf4 is still good af
Good time to mention that the current generation spice 2000 glide bombs missed an empty building and hit a couple of trees when the IAF tried to use it.
@@nicolaasjonkhart4660 Haha, The satellite image shows the 3 craters of the missed bombs next to the abandoned building:
www.reuters.com/article/us-india-kashmir-pakistan-airstrike-insi/satellite-images-show-buildings-still-standing-at-indian-bombing-site-idUSKCN1QN00V
And since you clearly only listen to Indian propaganda:
thewire.in/security/balakot-airstrikes-india-pakistan-satellite-images
Even if the handy Spice-Shit story were true, it wouldn't really be statistically relevant to the weapon's reliability. Even the AIM-9X failed once, any weapon system can, that doesn't make the multiple times it worked perfectly in testing or combat worthless.
@@rusher2937 Yeah honestly it looks more like the bombs weren't properly targeted since they all hit equidistant from the building rather than spreading out due to INS drift.
@@rusher2937 Air to air missiles, when they work, have around 50% hit probability or even less if it's BVR. Movies and Games make people think that they almost always works perfectly, while the reality is quite the opposite for all of them.
@@malokegames based on which source?
www.quora.com/What-is-the-hit-probability-of-an-AIM-120-AMRAAM-missile
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The US is putting all of their eggs in one basket with stealth...
Also the US: Keeps B-52's flying until 2100.
b52s are awesome
The F-15 will probably be around 70years by the time it’s retired
b52 better best when there no Long range sams
China and Russia are definitely working hard on upgrading their radar systems to better detect stealth jets. And since many of the countries that bought the F-35 are close to Russian borders, there are plenty of opportunities to test their detection.
Wouldn't the F-35 Countries in the Baltic Sea & Norway use their F-35s with Radar reflectors/Luneburg Lens, when used during peacetime, in order to avoid this?! You think they have not thought of this...
@@Kauppi2 what that?
@@mohamedelmoussaoui5531 It's a device or surface that reflects radiation (usually light) back to its source with minimum scattering. Every Steath plane uses this when they want to avoid hostile or regular radars from getting their radar signature or when flying during peace time/regular airspace, to make sure regular radars see their flightt path.The original comment did not consider this at all...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luneburg_lens.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroreflector
@@Kauppi2 thank you
@@Kauppi2 Yes, of course stealth planes have a stealth mode for combat missions calling for it, and a mode they use general flying. Some may have multiple levels of stealth configurable depending on the situation, and then of course there's loadout. Even still, the natural shape of these planes makes it hard to spot them sometimes. The B-2 is notorious for disappearing off air traffic control radar screens even when it's trying not to be stealthy. China proudly reported intermittently tracking some F-22s on patrol over the Pacific a while back, and those F-22s were carrying very unstealthy fuel tanks, showing China's radar systems their side not their stealthier front, and probably wanted China to see them since they were on a mission to show the flag, so to speak. Intermittently. They only were detected intermittently.
Anyway, they've definitely thought about it, and try to change up the signature and hide what the plane is truly capable of, but in a real war they'll be so much jamming and anti-radiation missiles and decoy drones flying about it's hard to imagine any air defense system is going to have an easy time of it even if they have clean data on the real thing. The idea that a single plane is going to go up against a single radar system in some lab-conditions 1v1 is absurd. Most real wars, the defending countries keep their radar systems off so as not to become targets, and the radars best able to detect stealth planes are big and immobile and easily destroyed in the first few hours. Stealth is mainly for surprise attacks at the outset of a conflict and doesn't matter much one way or another after that. The US likes to maintain first strike capability, so it makes sense from that standpoint, but I think it's obvious by now that the F-35 is trying to do too much and other specialized weapon systems can do everything it's designed to do, but better. Stealthy cruise missiles, stealthy drones, they're going to have much more optimized profiles because they don't need to dogfight and keep a person alive on the inside.
99% of the F-35s going to other countries are going to only fly in training, and the other 1% will be interception of civilian aircraft straying off course because the pilot had too much to drink at the airport bar or got distracted looking at his iPad. The stealth is totally useless for them. It's probably a good thing they didn't get the good coatings. Besides the security risk, it'd be a complete waste of money.
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Pretty sure Iran can track F-35s with S-300 now. They did a few months ago.
2:10 F-15, F-22 and Eurofighter Typhoon are all more expensive.
7:29 The US just bought the F-15EX ... so they really aren't putting all their eggs into one basket.
No.
@@drpk6514 Best counter-argument hands down, the discussion is won, we can all log off now and go to bed.
Agreed
Also name literally one major power that isn’t trying desperately to get more stealth aircraft up and running. It’s not that the US is making a different decision to say Russia, it’s that they actually have the resources to build a large number of stealth aircraft.
Good point, what’s better a few super stealthy aircraft, or a bunch of mass produced previous generation aircrafts?
Well presented and logical
The price of the f35A is lowering each year and is estimated to drop to 80 million this year,it does not cost 100 million.
That's what they keep saying, but in the latest defense budge (2021), they are purchasing 79 F-35s for $9.1 billion. That ends up being $115 million each.
@@CovertCabal what variants?because the f35b costs more than the A model.
No F-35Bs this year.
F-35A are always cheaper, but still over $100 million (48 for $5.2 billion = $107.9 million)
F-35C they are buying 31 for $3.9 billion ($126.6 million each)
@@CovertCabal gotcha,I stand corrected.
@@CovertCabal But the whole point of the F-35 is that you need less of them to do the same missions as Legacy fighters, so they are cheaper overall.
From a Serb, we didn't know it was invisible
how
Just like B2.
@@sonicgem4757 B2 isn't really stealthy you mean?
While indeed impressive work of the AA crew and intelligence, it's a bit lame to boast about a single "kill" over and over and over again while half of the Yugo Air Force got shredded to bits despite that.
@@yourneighbourhooddoomer US admitted thar even second wan was hit in that time. But it didn't crushed
Please make a video on what are the most likely wars to break out in the world and maybe one for the U.S. in 2021 thank you
I read that the F117 was shot down because they kept opening their bomb doors at a predictable location day after day. So the shoot down wasn't they fault of the equipment but of the operator. Testing your doors at the same location everyday and thus losing your stealth is a sure way to be seen and shot down.
I just recently cooked dinner. Perfect
But did you cook it with a F-35 radar?
For some missed up reason the more this guy talks , the more he sounds like Obama ... Either that or I'm having a stroke
Lmao
It's the pauses in his speech, to match what he's saying with the footage. Obama pauses a lot for dramatic effect.
I wouldn't wish that curse on anyone.
Got to see those bad boys from up above when they zoomed right under where I was standing when I was visiting masada.
The F-117 was shot down because the pilot flew the exact same flight path on his return as he did when flying in. Plus stealth doesn't mean invisible it means harder to see. Stealth is used to delay and mislead radar not completely bypass it
2:09 didn't it drop to 80 million? Or was it just for the US?
Actually a lot less. Like 71 million when you average the cost of 478 planes over 34 billion and that includes the more expensive B model.
79 million now. Cheaper than euro fighter, Rafael, f-16 block 70 and saab Gripen. The beauty of mass production and economy of scale.
@@libertyprime2921 damn......but where tf are we gonna get the pilots?
@@k.i.a6433 you train them like any other aircraft
@@libertyprime2921 isn't there a shortage of fighter pilots?
Al-Qadeer in Arabic means "The Mighty One"
Note, aside from that one admitted shot down F117, there is a recent statement from the USAF pilot is that he witnessed another damaged F117 in the air, he didn't say a fate of that damaged craft. Serbia is a small country and the damaged plane could have easily made emergency lading on many airfields or even crash in friendly (or forced to be friendly) NATO territory (all countries around Serbia) where such crash can be easily hidden from the public. So it's not one hit.
One thing to note is that when that F-117 was shot down its bomb bay doors were open. Though I’m not sure if that was the reason that it was spotted on radar.
It is not important whether or not the F35 can make it to the target.
The real question is whether Israel can stand 1000s of ballistic missiles in the sky of its cities afterward..
Iran doesn't a lot of long range ballistic missle, beside israel have a good air defense
Israel got iron dome, arrow 1-4, davids sling, what iran has to offer against Jericho or popeye?
And then Israel fire a couple of jericho missiles with nuclear warheads
@@mohamedelmoussaoui5531 It is said Iran has over 160K long range Ballistic Missiles and on top of that Hebollah has over 100K missiles that both can fire at the same time.
The air defence is a joke that even cant neutralise the rockets.
@@itaybarzelay2826 lol They couldnt even stop the pathetic rockets which come down with gravity, let alone with Ballistic missile 4km/s speed and cluster bombs...
If an F35 flys over Tehran, Iran will for sure counter by launching a missile.........from Lebanon but a missile will be launched.
All ready happend
F35s already made trips to Iran, thats why they sacked their air defense minister.
Even if it reached Teheran, what can it do? Bomb? Then it'll have no base to return to.
@@inlikearefugee5194 it’ll have a base to return to.
I mean, the Iranian nuclear minister had a base to go back to if he was still breathing and his car not full of holes
F-35A Block 3F Lot 14's per-unit cost is cheaper than F-15EX, F/A-18E Block II/III, Eurofighter 3A, and Rafale R4.
With regards to the f-177 nighthawk, when you know how it was downed it is still a cable aircraft today. The fault was down to how it was used. Used from an aircraft carrier. it would still be effective today. I am no fan of stealth aircraft.
2:08 it costs less than an f-15 how is that expensive
Because people lap up propaganda
@Drew Peacock actually it's operating costs aren't as high as one would think they've gone down over time and the f-35i is the a variant so the other two variants don't matter in this specific situation
@Drew Peacock every variant is more expensive than the f-35a be it the f-15c f15 ex or strike eagle why do you think relatively few numbers of eagles were manufactured when in comparison to say the F-16 or hornet shear cost
@Drew Peacock because I can't find an official one I could give you the one Lockheed Martin gave but I don't know if youd believe it so you can either take the one directly from a corporation who produced the aircraft (and is thus biased) or you can take it from a hit piece
@Drew Peacock I was not counting all export variants when I said that everyone knows that the doctrine the u.s operates under or at least used to operate under prioritizes larger numbers of f-16s as they were cheaper than the f15 also quoting Wikipedia as a reliable source seriously
2:20 it costs less than most modern-day air superiority aircraft and less than multi-roles like the Rafale check the date of your sources
Well done 👍
War is a business and 1st rule of business is to make profit 📈 so stealth will be well marketed to sell weapons.
Israel when they developing their own nuclear weapon : it is every country's right to development its own nuclear technology
Israel when iran developing thier own nuclear technology : wait that's illegal ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )
Well of course they don’t want Iran to build nuclear weapons, because if they do then the crosshairs will be aimed at them.
For a country that barely survived a series of coalition wars hell bent on it's destruction, Israel has the right. What's Iran's reason?
Israel already stopped two nuclear Programms of shithole countries Like Syria and iraq
@Sebres Ludolf that is assuming the US was going to invade them.
We’re they? Doubtful
Israel has more immediate threats considering the hostility it faces from everyone
@Sebres Ludolf chill bro the war is very rare these days because UN and international pressure
F-35 flew above S-400 in Syria. The F-35 will do just fine :)
F-35 need to ask some question from RQ-4
Russia has zero reasons to shoot down Israeli planes.
@@zoka7108 S-400 in Syria is not controlled by Russians. It was controlled by Syrians so they have the authority to shoot it down but they cannot because they cant see it.
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It's reported the S400 arrived in Syria along with Russian troops and equipment to support Syria. Not to be operated by Syria.
That suggests the S400 was defending Russian personal and positions.
@ No. All S-400 systems in Syria are owned and operated by Russians. All Syria has are a couple of old S-300 variants.
the F117 was shot down because they figured out their flight path. The US was flying the same flight path on many of their sorties. So it made it a lot easier and even then it was a lucky shot.