"At the age of 55, going on 56, how many more pictures can you do?" Almost 20 years later at least 9 feature films, not including documentaries... damn Marty is special.
+Jesse Dampolo That's because as De Niro got older, he found the new 'next' great talent in Leonardo Dicaprio. With those two amazing talents you can make a lot of great movies.
You think that's crazy? Look at the photo of Apollo 13, Goodfellas, Godfather, Mr Jaws/ET/Jurassic Park, Mr Back to the future/ forrest gump and Star wars sitting together. To listen to that convo wooo
The part about subtitles was really interesting. Ultimately it was the increasingly popularity of anime that got many people of my generation to feel comfortable with subtitles.
Everything these guys are talking about is happening right now. This is nuts. Everything they're saying is relevant, and this interview was conducted in the late nineties. I can't believe it. I bet if they were to sit down and re-watch this they would be amazed at how accurate they would turn out to be. 14 years on and nothing has changed.
Ehhhh, I think they got a lot of stuff right, but they didnt have the foresight to see the boom in indie studios like Annapurna, A24, etc. We are in another golden age of film, it just happens to be at the same time as all the bloated blockbusters. I also dont think it was very hard to predict in 97. Movies were very much dominated by blockbuster movies that put story second. I think we are lucky that Marvel movies and etc, are willing to put story/writing *at least* above (however slightly) what blockbusters in the 90s-early 2000s had it. So yes, blockbusters have taken over, but we have more indie films being shown in theatres across the country and even the world than ever before. Successfully. A24 particularly has really been a saving grace for Original, small, movies.
@@boppob1343 couldn't agree more. in the future, most of those bad blockbusters like Transformers or something like that will be forgotten and what will stays will be films like Moonlight, Boyhood, The Irishman, Parasite, Mulholland Drive, Pan's Labyrinth, etc, etc... and then people will say that the beginning of the 21th century was one of the best times for cinema hahahaha
Cinema between 1920 to 1948, and between 1967 and 1983 was at its all time best in my opinion. The studios and talented directors who built the foundations and the new wave who re-established it.
LODA LEGA How could you say that when from 1960- now we’ve had 2001 a space odyssey Chinatown La dolce Vita The Godfather 1 and 2 Dr Strangelove Raging Bull Persona There will be blood Pulp fiction Goodfellas Psycho The Apartment The dollars trilogy The Three colors trilogy Magnolia Fight Club Schindler’s List The Piano Broadcast News Boogie Nights LA Confidential Lawrence of Arabia And so much more
@@randywhite3947 Have seen all the movies u mentioned except Broadcast News,some of them are damn good,not saying that only ''bad'' movies have been made since 1960,all i am saying is,the quality of Cinema decreased post 1959,I love 80s,i think it's the best decade for Horror and Action,60s was ok,90s was good,but the 70s of Hollywood sucked balls,Yes,it also gave us the likes of William friedkin,John Carpenter,Hal Ashby but it just killed the innocence in Cinema,Film Noir,Western almost vanished post 59,one of the reasons not a big fan of post 1959 cinema,it's just my opinion,to each his own as they say.
@@lodalega967480s were great but 60s was ok? 60s you had Godard, Truffaut, Tati, Demy, Varda, Resnais, Antonioni, Visconti, prime Fellini, prime Bergman, prime Kubrick, Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Leone, Bresson, even classic Hollywood films (The Apartment, Liberty Valence, Lawrence of Arabia, Psycho), the rise of New Hollywood (Bonnie and Clyde, Easy Rider, Rosemary’s Baby, The Graduate). 80s doesn’t even come close
superb interview, asking the right questions when they are needed to be asked, and just stepping back and letting the guys talk. great , this is how an interview is meant to be .
+DOGOID True that, but he does have two talkative guests (especially one of them). At times even a very good interviewer needs to be more active since there are people who are difficult to get to open up (shy like DeNiro, generally difficult like Dylan or just pricks like a whole bunch of people).
watching mean streets helped cure my depression i had been suffering from for quit a while. strange but true, it really helped lift me up. dont ask me why
Two great directors whose body of work stand the test of time. Could listen to these two for hours. Just watched 'The Wolf of Wall Street' and it is another exceptional addition to Scorsese's library.
@@jothishprabu8 I mean come on most directors would give their life to have 1 film as good as the godfather, part 2 or apocalypse now.. let alone all 3… in the same decade
Why are people arguing who's better?These two men are both equally great. The only difference is, Coppola's film success was more condensed, he made 4 legendary films within 7 years (The Godfather, The Godfather II, The Conversation, Apocalypse Now) Scorsese on the other hand, had just 2 legendary films in the 1970's (Mean Streets and Taxi Driver) but the 2 other masterpieces (Raging Bull, Goodfellas) were in 2 other decades with many good ones in between. So instead of comparing these two let's instead thank both for their important contribution to cinema.
I completely agree at least one still doing it the other might had taken way too many risks that it might had shorten his career which sadly happens to most directors and filmmakers.
I feel that Marty had a lot longer career, and has been churning out great films every five years since 1973. Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, King of Comedy, Goodfellas, Casino, etc. Even if very different from the first one, even his last one, The Wolf of Wall Street has been just as good as the first one. On the other hand, Francis had essentially one decade on the top, but no other director had ever done so many perfect movies in that timeframe. The seventies, of course. The Godfather I & II, Apocalypse Now, The Conversation, and he had even written Patton.
Both are great directors, Marty has maintained an incredibly diverse career through the years making films like Raging Bull, Goodfellas,Taxi Driver, After Hours, The Aviator.. I mean this guy doesn't miss, even if he misses it's still better than what you see these days and that to me is a ridiculous achievement, to have the same body of work that this guy had is unheard of, even filmmakers like Bergman and Fellini exhausted their creative vision. Coppola on the other hand, has made 4 classic films in the 70's and by classic I mean films that will stand through time, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather 1 and 2, one of the most overlooked films in The Conversation, I mean in 30-40 years, their place in cinema history will only flourish.. people would be discussing it the same way we discuss films like L'avventura, the idea of how this guy was able to make 4 undoubtedly great films in a span of 8 years, would baffle future generations. Like I said, both are great film-makers, to pit them together and compare their careers would be an impossibility.
Matthew Enriquez Dont forget about "One From The Heart", very bad in box office and by critic, but for me a masterpiece at the level of " The Conversation"
Amazing that Scorcese here hadn't even hit his next big stride, film after great film with Leo. That was still ahead of him. There really is no director with a body of work, so many different periods, like Scorcese.
Interesting how Coppola mentions that both he and Scorsese came along at the perfect time - the collapse of the old big studio regime. It made it possible for all those great edgy American films of the 70's to be made.
I love how they are talking about the directors' credibility and craftsmanship while it shows Coppola working on Jack lmao. Glad Scorsese gave a Malick namedrop though among other things. Scorses really knows a lot about the medium and cares for it so dearly.
I can't put my finger on why most movies and music nowadays bore me to death . Thought that it could be my age , but my younger boys think the same and favor these two directors of my generation. Don't know if the corporations are to blame, but hope after living though a culturally inspiring time that we are not heading into some drab dark age. Music is even worse.
That's Italian! I am NOT saying these two men are the ONLY movie-director-as-artist of the past 50 years- but it was fabulous watching them both in the same room talking. I was born in 1966 but not only have I seen Thousands of movies-especially from Hollywood's Golden Age- I was able to see a lot of them on TV with AMC.and host Bob Dorian with No commercial. Growing up in the Bay Area I got to see many foreign films this way free: Kurosawa-Eisenstein- Fellini. That kind of grounding I don't see much of today
+Lucius Anderson it's utterly insane how prophetic and how many nails they hit on the head with this. They are even talking here about studios picking up independent directors and fast tracking them into huge budget pictures which is something that happens so regularly these days. Especially pushing them into these big expensive boring franchises.
Scorsese has been my favorite director since I was 15. His work from Mean Streets to Goodfellas was incredible and unparalleled. My father would challenge me by saying, yeah but were any of those Scorsese movies as good as the Godfather pictures? I had to admit that as great as Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are, they truly aren't as perfect as the first two Godfather movies.
well yeah.. the godfather is a legend , but still i really liked goodfellas overall more than i liked the godfather , not to mention his latest works such as shutter island and the wolf of wallstreet alongside the departed.. thats the reason i prefer scorsese , hes just too good
Eh. Subjective shit, debatable shit, etc. Calling The Godfather a "perfect film" simply isn't true unless our definition of perfect is very different. I'd give a 10 to any of the movies you mentioned in a heartbeat, but comparing them to each-other like one is perfect-er than the other is just kinda absurd.
Oscars mean what, again? Reflect on the fact that Dances With Wolves beat out Goodfellas. What, you never saw Dances With Wolves? Don't bother. Watch Goodfellas again instead.
***** Dances with wolves was a great movie about friendship. I know corny right? Plus Costner went out on a limb to make that movie which his friend basically wrote. Looking at the scope of the movie, dances with wolves was much harder film to make. I like Goodfellas as well but they are completely different types of movies.
+JiveDadson wow the way you said that makes you sound stupid. dances with wolves is a classic that not many people know about. Goodfellas is worse than dances with wolves by far! one stands on it's own the other is a genre film. man you have poor tastes in film.
+GMMac goodfellas is not only better, it is miles ahead. some even call it one of the finest movies ever made, it has higher critic scores and audience scores everywhere. dances with wolves is a great movie, dont get me wrong, but it is far from goodfellas status in movie history and it is also not as well made
GmmacMusic i hate that dances with wolves is somewhat hated now its a great movie. but good fellas beats it on almost every level and is one of the finest films ever made.
I find it fascinating that both avoid mentioning George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Jaws, Star Wars and the dirty word “Blockbuster”. In the beginning when they were talking about the transition of the movie industry in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s. And towards the middle of the discussion their hang up becomes the technology that facilitates film making. But I do like how they do mention frame of reference. That’s the main hang up films have today. Especially with Netflix and similar apps. Kids now prefer a small smart phone screens instead of movie theatre screens. I guess we’ll have to wait for the post covid period.
TOP 10 MIX of these two guys: 1- The Godfather FFC 1972 2- Apocalypse Now FFC 1979 3- The Godfather II FFC 1974 4- Ranging Bull MS 1980 5- One From the Heart FFC 1982 6- Taxi Driver MS 1976 7- The Conversation FFC 1973 8- Godfellas MS 1990 9- The Departed MS 2006 10- Youth Without Youth FFC 2007
Being a movie Director has gotta be one of the most challenging jobs there is, with so many balls in the air at any one time... juggling budgets, studio execs, actors, schedules, locations, marketing, weather, interviews, etc., with most projects stretched over years.
This is so true. Hollywood hires young indie directors to make big budget blockbusters and there, they lose their personal touch and style. Colin Trevorrow and Jurassic world is the most recent and obvious example.
What a great conversation between the two legends, who are truly the embodiment of the golden period of cinema. It just a pure pleasure to have them both in the same room giving you a breakdown of their journey through the hurdles of their careers.
What they said about foreign films is so true. Luckily with Parasite being so successful we will hopefully continue to see excellent foreign films being more heavily promoted.
I'm studying film at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, where I take courses in all of film - from history to analysis to theory to sociological importance - and I definitely would like Scorsese to be my professor. When he talks about film, it's so interesting and he seems to know everything about it. It's great to listen to.
From the 1970s Scorsese created positive body of work that has made him one of the most important filmmakers of the late 20th and early 21st centuries..
So wonderful to see these two giants together. And at the same time: tragic that at the core of this conversation, their entire careers have been about swimming against the tide of American mediocrity.
These are two clever dudes and they are as sharp as tacks. They really get the movie industry. Not only are they masterful filmmakers but they also have an excellent read of the movie biz.
+Strange Days This is a fine example of a popular criticism that doesn't hold up when you take the time to think about it. Next time you go to the cinema, count the number of posters on the wall. Do it many times, tally it up. I guarantee you less than five percent of them are related to comic books films. The idea that comic book films are over saturating the film market, though often touted, is nonsense.
TheReccher yeah but without advertising the other movies fail. Comic book movies, remakes, and tent poles in general get a large percentage of advertising by the studios therefore they are on the radar on a much larger scale. The truth is they are just following the market, but the quality of scripts that get made has taken a nose dive.
+Strange Days People today do not have the capacity or will for critical/analytical thinking. Cinema reached it's apex around 2001. Most of the good directors are dead or retired. Once in a while the Coen brothers or a Paul Thomas Anderson come in with a great film, but cinema's best years are sadly in the past.
+Strange Days Yet there are still fantastic films being made that everyone seems to forget about when they put their nostalgia goggles on, Birdman Whiplash, Nightcrawler Interstellar, Boyhood, Grand Budapest Hotel just last year for example
It’s a insightful interview, but sometimes it feels rushed. Some topics are so interesting and both guys where really getting into depth in the said topic, and then the host changes the question or interrupts. It’s kinda of a shame.
Tragic that you've never heard of John Ford, Billy Wilder, William Wyler, Akira Kurosawa, etc. Coppola and Scorcese are light-years away from the best directors that ever lived.
Sugar R robinson Steven Spielberg has incredible attention to detail to be sure. But there is no Doubt he was influenced by Coppola and Scorsese. Because these guys were before Spielberg they didn't have the same technology at their disposal that Spielberg did or has So I suppose its all down to personal taste.
two geniuses... talking abt true sense of story telling... cosi think technology or cgi... or whatever they call now... important is how u emotionally connect with that part called as story telling
I'm a youngster who not only appreciates subtitles--I PREFER them! Even if it's a Hollywood film--I will ALWAYS, when watching a DVD, try and put on the subtitles.
1:17 - Dude... while talking about Coppola's _vast_ importance to film history, and his creative mastery of the film language, *don't* show clips of him making fucking *"Jack"!*
Now they make expensive epic tentpole movies based on comic book characters and fairy tale fantasy stories. It's rare to see an indie movie that makes money at the box office.
Coppola had a great run in the 70s. I still think his masterpiece if the original Godfather which despite its pulp origins (or maybe precisely because of them) told the more cohesive story that his other works. Apocalypse Now is a film that I like less the more I've viewed it over the yours, and I'm not sure why. I feel the same way about The Conversation, although I can see the brilliance and love of craft in both of those films. Scorsese, to me, is a complete outlier, and I have a hard time thinking we'll ever see his likes again. He's still making great films in his fifth decade of work. I just re-watched LIFE LESSONS, his 40-minute short from NEW YORK STORIES, and its one of the most thrilling films about the emotional life of artists (and the compromises they make for their art) I've ever seen. Every frame is touched by genuine emotion. I sound like a total fanboy and I guess I am, but its hard not to love Scorsese's work. One reason that I respond more to Scorsese may be that he's as much a sociologist as he is a filmmaker. He shows you the rituals and morals (or lack thereof) of semi-closed societies that many of us are not privy to, and makes them come alive dramatically. Yet his films always feel intimate, as well. That's a hard feat to pull off consistently for so many years. I
I love how he asks them if there are any young filmmakers they are impressed by, and they come up with Gus Van Sant and Woody Allen - practically their peers, not young people.
I think it's interesting that the filmmaking community seems to have completely split down the middle in this decade. There are no moderately budgeted pictures anymore, there are only independent films made for cheap or multimillion dollar blockbuster productions. Often times, studios will search for new talent in the independent circuit, and pull them right up from doing $10,000 pictures to doing $50,000,000 pictures overnight, and it's not a healthy career choice. Just look at what the studio system did to Josh Trank.
THANK YOU ! ♡♡ An educational film for filmmmakers, script writers, actors, producers. It was a bit ANNOYING at times how they kept interrupting each other talking, but passionate and creative people may do that at times when being so entusiastic about the subject matter. I am guilty of that one myself ;) !
"At the age of 55, going on 56, how many more pictures can you do?"
Almost 20 years later at least 9 feature films, not including documentaries... damn Marty is special.
+Jesse Dampolo That's because as De Niro got older, he found the new 'next' great talent in Leonardo Dicaprio. With those two amazing talents you can make a lot of great movies.
Jesse Dampolo he NEVER jumped the shark. Only director of the holly wood new wave you can confidently say that about.
Ebert was calling him the best working filmmaker back in the late 1980s. The man's body of work is truly incredible.
@@renindy best of luck man
He is special. The Aviator is one of Marty's later films, and just as well done as earlier ones. He has rarely made a less than great film.
Scorsese talks so fast if you put the speed to 0.5 he talks at the same pace as Coppola.
I talk like that too lol. Think too fast and try to get my thoughts out before my thought process changes or someone interrupts me.
hahah he is so high energy amped all the time!
lol I just did it and your right
Yeah. It's like he took a speed reading course and it backfired on him.
Hahaha.
No matter what you do, no matter how good you are, there’s always Scorsese. There’s always Scorsese challenging you right there...
scatt jax Tarantino quotes De Palma
that's kubrick.
I believe it was Marty who said that
Yes we've all seen the same Tarantino interview
The Godfather and Goodfellas. In the same room. Sitting down. Having a conversation.
Yes. I know. It's so. Good. 👍🏿. 👌🏿.
Silence. The Conversation.
Jack and New York, New York in the same room
Also the outsiders and cape fear sitting in the same room
You think that's crazy? Look at the photo of Apollo 13, Goodfellas, Godfather, Mr Jaws/ET/Jurassic Park, Mr Back to the future/ forrest gump and Star wars sitting together.
To listen to that convo wooo
Year 2019 : Martin Scorsese still the greatest director. Francis ford's God father 1,2&3 still the best classic.
The part about subtitles was really interesting. Ultimately it was the increasingly popularity of anime that got many people of my generation to feel comfortable with subtitles.
Everything these guys are talking about is happening right now. This is nuts. Everything they're saying is relevant, and this interview was conducted in the late nineties. I can't believe it. I bet if they were to sit down and re-watch this they would be amazed at how accurate they would turn out to be. 14 years on and nothing has changed.
Ehhhh, I think they got a lot of stuff right, but they didnt have the foresight to see the boom in indie studios like Annapurna, A24, etc. We are in another golden age of film, it just happens to be at the same time as all the bloated blockbusters. I also dont think it was very hard to predict in 97.
Movies were very much dominated by blockbuster movies that put story second. I think we are lucky that Marvel movies and etc, are willing to put story/writing *at least* above (however slightly) what blockbusters in the 90s-early 2000s had it.
So yes, blockbusters have taken over, but we have more indie films being shown in theatres across the country and even the world than ever before. Successfully. A24 particularly has really been a saving grace for Original, small, movies.
@@boppob1343 couldn't agree more.
in the future, most of those bad blockbusters like Transformers or something like that will be forgotten and what will stays will be films like Moonlight, Boyhood, The Irishman, Parasite, Mulholland Drive, Pan's Labyrinth, etc, etc... and then people will say that the beginning of the 21th century was one of the best times for cinema hahahaha
@@PauloJose-fx9wj every decade has had great films. People just think the past was better because only the good movies get remembered
@@boppob1343 But hey a24 will sell now, and to another corporation
@@classicpinball9873 "Survivorship Bias" is what they call it.
Cinema between 1920 to 1948, and between 1967 and 1983 was at its all time best in my opinion. The studios and talented directors who built the foundations and the new wave who re-established it.
SamuelSayz um what about 1949 to 1966
1910-1959 were the best years,after that it sucked.
LODA LEGA How could you say that when from 1960- now we’ve had
2001 a space odyssey
Chinatown
La dolce Vita
The Godfather 1 and 2
Dr Strangelove
Raging Bull
Persona
There will be blood
Pulp fiction
Goodfellas
Psycho
The Apartment
The dollars trilogy
The Three colors trilogy
Magnolia
Fight Club
Schindler’s List
The Piano
Broadcast News
Boogie Nights
LA Confidential
Lawrence of Arabia
And so much more
@@randywhite3947 Have seen all the movies u mentioned except Broadcast News,some of them are damn good,not saying that only ''bad'' movies have been made since 1960,all i am saying is,the quality of Cinema decreased post 1959,I love 80s,i think it's the best decade for Horror and Action,60s was ok,90s was good,but the 70s of Hollywood sucked balls,Yes,it also gave us the likes of William friedkin,John Carpenter,Hal Ashby but it just killed the innocence in Cinema,Film Noir,Western almost vanished post 59,one of the reasons not a big fan of post 1959 cinema,it's just my opinion,to each his own as they say.
@@lodalega967480s were great but 60s was ok? 60s you had Godard, Truffaut, Tati, Demy, Varda, Resnais, Antonioni, Visconti, prime Fellini, prime Bergman, prime Kubrick, Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Leone, Bresson, even classic Hollywood films (The Apartment, Liberty Valence, Lawrence of Arabia, Psycho), the rise of New Hollywood (Bonnie and Clyde, Easy Rider, Rosemary’s Baby, The Graduate). 80s doesn’t even come close
Love how Scorsese keeps calling Deniro a "cameo role" in Goodfellas, Jimmy probably has more screen time than a protagonist in an average film
Big Bones Billy nope
@Matt Polzkill De Niro has one of the main roles in Goodfellas.
Yeah so much so that everyone ignores how great Ray Liotta was in the starring role because De Niro and Pesci are so good.
I did feel that was a cameo, it was De Niro doing his thing in his comfort zone. Other roles have been more demanding for him, I'm sure
In terms of screen time it may as well have been a cameo role but it his performance is just that good
superb interview, asking the right questions when they are needed to be asked, and just stepping back and letting the guys talk. great , this is how an interview is meant to be .
+DOGOID True that, but he does have two talkative guests (especially one of them). At times even a very good interviewer needs to be more active since there are people who are difficult to get to open up (shy like DeNiro, generally difficult like Dylan or just pricks like a whole bunch of people).
watching mean streets helped cure my depression i had been suffering from for quit a while. strange but true, it really helped lift me up. dont ask me why
Two great directors whose body of work stand the test of time. Could listen to these two for hours. Just watched 'The Wolf of Wall Street' and it is another exceptional addition to Scorsese's library.
ladies and gentlemen behold 2 of The Cinematic gods in the same room talking with each other
its like having Hitchcock and Kubrick on stage to talk about movies
The Rain Man I wish that an interview like that existed
Corny
Ffc is shit
@@jothishprabu8 I mean come on most directors would give their life to have 1 film as good as the godfather, part 2 or apocalypse now.. let alone all 3… in the same decade
Why are people arguing who's better?These two men are both equally great. The only difference is, Coppola's film success was more condensed, he made 4 legendary films within 7 years (The Godfather, The Godfather II, The Conversation, Apocalypse Now) Scorsese on the other hand, had just 2 legendary films in the 1970's (Mean Streets and Taxi Driver) but the 2 other masterpieces (Raging Bull, Goodfellas) were in 2 other decades with many good ones in between. So instead of comparing these two let's instead thank both for their important contribution to cinema.
King of Comedy, is a masterpiece.
I completely agree at least one still doing it the other might had taken way too many risks that it might had shorten his career which sadly happens to most directors and filmmakers.
This was so awesome and insightful!👌
It was awesome but not as awesome as you
Hey you're a popular CZcamsr I see.
Film writers in hollywood
@@howardjohnson4573 hollyweird
I feel that Marty had a lot longer career, and has been churning out great films every five years since 1973. Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, King of Comedy, Goodfellas, Casino, etc. Even if very different from the first one, even his last one, The Wolf of Wall Street has been just as good as the first one.
On the other hand, Francis had essentially one decade on the top, but no other director had ever done so many perfect movies in that timeframe. The seventies, of course. The Godfather I & II, Apocalypse Now, The Conversation, and he had even written Patton.
yeah but coppola directed and was responsible for the greatest films of all time
What do you mean? I said the same thing before.
Sorry, I used my other account accidentaly
Coppola hasn't made anything great since the 70's.
@@Revolver1981 Peggy Sue got Married and Rumblefish were quite good, almost great.
This is golden wtf happened to the film industry please can we go back to the 70s-90s where real heart was i would do anything
This is such a relevant discussion/advice. Today more than ever.
This is so great. Marty is just an encyclopedia of film knowledge! Love his Ed Wood shout out, one of my favorite movies!
Two of the best director in the world in the same room, mind blown!
Both are great directors, Marty has maintained an incredibly diverse career through the years making films like Raging Bull, Goodfellas,Taxi Driver, After Hours, The Aviator.. I mean this guy doesn't miss, even if he misses it's still better than what you see these days and that to me is a ridiculous achievement, to have the same body of work that this guy had is unheard of, even filmmakers like Bergman and Fellini exhausted their creative vision. Coppola on the other hand, has made 4 classic films in the 70's and by classic I mean films that will stand through time, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather 1 and 2, one of the most overlooked films in The Conversation, I mean in 30-40 years, their place in cinema history will only flourish.. people would be discussing it the same way we discuss films like L'avventura, the idea of how this guy was able to make 4 undoubtedly great films in a span of 8 years, would baffle future generations. Like I said, both are great film-makers, to pit them together and compare their careers would be an impossibility.
Don't forget about bram stoker's Dracula for Francis Ford Coppola. Absolutely mesmerizing film.
Matthew Enriquez Dont forget about "One From The Heart", very bad in box office and by critic, but for me a masterpiece at the level of " The Conversation"
They both are just so freaking amazing!
Marty also made Hugo--which to me is a modern masterpiece. Age has not dulled his artistic vision for his films.
Amazing that Scorcese here hadn't even hit his next big stride, film after great film with Leo. That was still ahead of him. There really is no director with a body of work, so many different periods, like Scorcese.
Stanley Kubrick
King of comedy is underrated
Very much so.
I think it’s arguably Scorsese’s best.
Bringing Out The Dead and The Age of Innocence are underrated.
Interesting how Coppola mentions that both he and Scorsese came along at the perfect time - the collapse of the old big studio regime. It made it possible for all those great edgy American films of the 70's to be made.
I love how they are talking about the directors' credibility and craftsmanship while it shows Coppola working on Jack lmao.
Glad Scorsese gave a Malick namedrop though among other things. Scorses really knows a lot about the medium and cares for it so dearly.
I can hardly wait to see The Irishman. Read the book I heard You Paint Houses. Excellent read.
Thanks for making us learn about the films and the geniuses that are behind every wonder , every movies we admire, we like so much!
I can't put my finger on why most movies and music nowadays bore me to death . Thought that it could be my age , but my younger boys think the same and favor these two directors of my generation. Don't know if the corporations are to blame, but hope after living though a culturally inspiring time that we are not heading into some drab dark age. Music is even worse.
Now I want to hear what happens if you manage to put your finger on it.
Put your finger on the play button & listen to this interview many times, one day you'll know why.
That's Italian! I am NOT saying these two men are the ONLY movie-director-as-artist of the past 50 years- but it was fabulous watching them both in the same room talking. I was born in 1966 but not only have I seen Thousands of movies-especially from Hollywood's Golden Age- I was able to see a lot of them on TV with AMC.and host Bob Dorian with No commercial. Growing up in the Bay Area I got to see many foreign films this way free: Kurosawa-Eisenstein- Fellini. That kind of grounding I don't see much of today
OMG the bromance in this vid. I would've shipped this.
Smh. God damn gay
These men truly made GREAT movies and obviously respect each other. This is a great conversation for film buffs. thanks for sharing it.
12.31 Martin does a Deniro face
Lol! It is his face!
12:30
well this is some prophetic shit right here
+Lucius Anderson it's utterly insane how prophetic and how many nails they hit on the head with this. They are even talking here about studios picking up independent directors and fast tracking them into huge budget pictures which is something that happens so regularly these days. Especially pushing them into these big expensive boring franchises.
Scorsese has been my favorite director since I was 15. His work from Mean Streets to Goodfellas was incredible and unparalleled. My father would challenge me by saying, yeah but were any of those Scorsese movies as good as the Godfather pictures? I had to admit that as great as Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are, they truly aren't as perfect as the first two Godfather movies.
well yeah.. the godfather is a legend , but still i really liked goodfellas overall more than i liked the godfather , not to mention his latest works such as shutter island and the wolf of wallstreet alongside the departed.. thats the reason i prefer scorsese , hes just too good
Watch The Conversation with your dad or Apoc Now.
Eh. Subjective shit, debatable shit, etc.
Calling The Godfather a "perfect film" simply isn't true unless our definition of perfect is very different. I'd give a 10 to any of the movies you mentioned in a heartbeat, but comparing them to each-other like one is perfect-er than the other is just kinda absurd.
For me raging bull and goodfellas are better than godfather 2. Not Godfather 1 though
I would definitely put Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas and Casino on The Godfather’s level. At least Godfather 2.
All Scorsese Movies could be listed one of the great movies.
Thank you very much everyone…we had such a great experience doing this interview that has stood the test of time!!!
These guys have tremendous voices (literally), and their passion on top of that draws you in.
@ 13:50
Gareth Edwards
'Monsters' budget: 500,000
'Godzilla' budget: 160,000,000
Colin Trevorrow
'Safety Not Guaranteed' budget: 750,000
'Jurassic World' budget: 150,000,000
Josh Trank
"Chronicle" budget: 12,000,000
"Fantastic Four" budget: 122,000,000
FrameFlicker And don't forget Marc Webb, from 500 Days of Summer to the Spider-Mans.
What a nice conversation. This sheds some light on filmmaking.
Oscars mean what, again? Reflect on the fact that Dances With Wolves beat out Goodfellas. What, you never saw Dances With Wolves? Don't bother. Watch Goodfellas again instead.
***** Dances with wolves was a great movie about friendship. I know corny right? Plus Costner went out on a limb to make that movie which his friend basically wrote. Looking at the scope of the movie, dances with wolves was much harder film to make. I like Goodfellas as well but they are completely different types of movies.
+JiveDadson wow the way you said that makes you sound stupid. dances with wolves is a classic that not many people know about. Goodfellas is worse than dances with wolves by far! one stands on it's own the other is a genre film. man you have poor tastes in film.
+GMMac goodfellas is not only better, it is miles ahead. some even call it one of the finest movies ever made, it has higher critic scores and audience scores everywhere. dances with wolves is a great movie, dont get me wrong, but it is far from goodfellas status in movie history and it is also not as well made
GmmacMusic i hate that dances with wolves is somewhat hated now its a great movie. but good fellas beats it on almost every level and is one of the finest films ever made.
Also Kramer vs Kramer beating Apocalypse Now
I find it fascinating that both avoid mentioning George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Jaws, Star Wars and the dirty word “Blockbuster”. In the beginning when they were talking about the transition of the movie industry in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s. And towards the middle of the discussion their hang up becomes the technology that facilitates film making. But I do like how they do mention frame of reference. That’s the main hang up films have today. Especially with Netflix and similar apps. Kids now prefer a small smart phone screens instead of movie theatre screens. I guess we’ll have to wait for the post covid period.
TOP 10 MIX of these two guys:
1- The Godfather FFC 1972
2- Apocalypse Now FFC 1979
3- The Godfather II FFC 1974
4- Ranging Bull MS 1980
5- One From the Heart FFC 1982
6- Taxi Driver MS 1976
7- The Conversation FFC 1973
8- Godfellas MS 1990
9- The Departed MS 2006
10- Youth Without Youth FFC 2007
João Fernandes Goodfellas is numero uno ;)
+João Fernandes Among the two, I think Taxi Driver is far and away the best film.
1) The Godfather
2) Apocalypse Now
3) Taxi Driver
4) Godfather 2
5) Raging Bull
6) Goodfellas
This was excellent! Thnx for this post!
Thanks to whoever uploaded this for this very inspiring and insightful interview.
This has to be one of the BEST conversations with these guys I have ever seen and heard. Thanks so much for posting !
I love these two sm. The pictures they’ve made and their passion and determination for cinema is so fantastic
Being a movie Director has gotta be one of the most challenging jobs there is, with so many balls in the air at any one time... juggling budgets, studio execs, actors, schedules, locations, marketing, weather, interviews, etc., with most projects stretched over years.
This is so true. Hollywood hires young indie directors to make big budget blockbusters and there, they lose their personal touch and style. Colin Trevorrow and Jurassic world is the most recent and obvious example.
And Josh Trank nearly lost his mind on Fantastic Four, and it's so sad because in the end it meant nothing more than copyright maintainence for Fox.
What a great conversation between the two legends, who are truly the embodiment of the golden period of cinema. It just a pure pleasure to have them both in the same room giving you a breakdown of their journey through the hurdles of their careers.
Very enjoyable! The interviewer was good--intelligent questions and comments to give the guests something to expound on. This was a well spent hour.
What they said about foreign films is so true. Luckily with Parasite being so successful we will hopefully continue to see excellent foreign films being more heavily promoted.
Two of the greatest directors who are not only knowledgeable but very articulate. Great to listen to both of them.
thanks for posting!
Masters of Cinema ! I just would like to say thanks for inspiration.
I'm studying film at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, where I take courses in all of film - from history to analysis to theory to sociological importance - and I definitely would like Scorsese to be my professor. When he talks about film, it's so interesting and he seems to know everything about it. It's great to listen to.
@Francis Serra 3 years after you, I’m a film student now. Did you make any films?
From the 1970s Scorsese created positive body of work that has made him one of the most important filmmakers of the late 20th and early 21st centuries..
They are true fans and passionate about making good craft.
So wonderful to see these two giants together. And at the same time: tragic that at the core of this conversation, their entire careers have been about swimming against the tide of American mediocrity.
Wow so very interesting to watch these Great Film makers. THANK YOU for sharing,blown away listening 💛💛 to these 2 geniuses
Two masters, great interview.
This is brilliant. To hear their frustrations is so interesting.
These are two clever dudes and they are as sharp as tacks. They really get the movie industry. Not only are they masterful filmmakers but they also have an excellent read of the movie biz.
That was great, thank you.
cameo is probably selling it short, but it was Liota who was the lead actor. The others were supporting actors. Amazing film.
1:32 what a legendary picture!
Audiences now want comic book movies with the same plot over and over again. Talk about a decline in cinema.
Sane thing happened with westerns.
+Strange Days This is a fine example of a popular criticism that doesn't hold up when you take the time to think about it. Next time you go to the cinema, count the number of posters on the wall. Do it many times, tally it up. I guarantee you less than five percent of them are related to comic books films. The idea that comic book films are over saturating the film market, though often touted, is nonsense.
TheReccher yeah but without advertising the other movies fail. Comic book movies, remakes, and tent poles in general get a large percentage of advertising by the studios therefore they are on the radar on a much larger scale. The truth is they are just following the market, but the quality of scripts that get made has taken a nose dive.
+Strange Days People today do not have the capacity or will for critical/analytical thinking. Cinema reached it's apex around 2001. Most of the good directors are dead or retired. Once in a while the Coen brothers or a Paul Thomas Anderson come in with a great film, but cinema's best years are sadly in the past.
+Strange Days Yet there are still fantastic films being made that everyone seems to forget about when they put their nostalgia goggles on, Birdman Whiplash, Nightcrawler Interstellar, Boyhood, Grand Budapest Hotel just last year for example
The speed and style of Scorcese's speech I think Jesse Eisenberg after he's put on a decade could pull off really well.
Outstanding Conversation.
Ha
It’s a insightful interview, but sometimes it feels rushed. Some topics are so interesting and both guys where really getting into depth in the said topic, and then the host changes the question or interrupts. It’s kinda of a shame.
This is a gold mine of insight. Gratze
These guys made one masterpiece after another back then.
41:43 love that with hindsight, we now know he was talking about Megalopolis. An idea for 20+ years but glad it's finally been shot.
WOW theres two legends of cinema!😉☺
Great interview
Best Directors that ever lived.
Steven Spielberg is pretty good too.
Very True.
Tragic that you've never heard of John Ford, Billy Wilder, William Wyler, Akira Kurosawa, etc. Coppola and Scorcese are light-years away from the best directors that ever lived.
Dont think so
Sugar R robinson Steven Spielberg has incredible attention to detail to be sure. But there is no Doubt he was influenced by Coppola and Scorsese. Because these guys were before Spielberg they didn't have the same technology at their disposal that Spielberg did or has So I suppose its all down to personal taste.
So glad I was born in 1967 and got to experience alot of this.
An example would be Dr. Strangelove or 2001: A Space Odyssey. They were ahead of their time.
Without Kubrick there wouldn't be a Scorsese or Coppola.
what a pleasure to hear these two geniuses share their love of film
two geniuses... talking abt true sense of story telling... cosi think technology or cgi... or whatever they call now... important is how u emotionally connect with that part called as story telling
How younger coppola and Scorsese can be interviewed by older Darren Aronofsky ? That makes no sense to me !
great interview
My God the knowledge of Scorsese, the man is a cinema encyclopedia
you both are master filmmakers
love the lighting and music
thanks for posting. Interview starts at 4:05
I'm a youngster who not only appreciates subtitles--I PREFER them! Even if it's a Hollywood film--I will ALWAYS, when watching a DVD, try and put on the subtitles.
And especially subtitles are good if English is your second language :)
2 legends right there 🎥 🎞 🔥 🙏
16 minutes in. This conversation is so great
1:17 - Dude... while talking about Coppola's _vast_ importance to film history, and his creative mastery of the film language, *don't* show clips of him making fucking *"Jack"!*
At least it wasn't made today or they'd show clips of him shooting fucking "Twixt"!
Someone convinced people they dont wanna read subtitles lol
Now they make expensive epic tentpole movies based on comic book characters and fairy tale fantasy stories. It's rare to see an indie movie that makes money at the box office.
Coppola had a great run in the 70s. I still think his masterpiece if the original Godfather which despite its pulp origins (or maybe precisely because of them) told the more cohesive story that his other works. Apocalypse Now is a film that I like less the more I've viewed it over the yours, and I'm not sure why. I feel the same way about The Conversation, although I can see the brilliance and love of craft in both of those films.
Scorsese, to me, is a complete outlier, and I have a hard time thinking we'll ever see his likes again. He's still making great films in his fifth decade of work. I just re-watched LIFE LESSONS, his 40-minute short from NEW YORK STORIES, and its one of the most thrilling films about the emotional life of artists (and the compromises they make for their art) I've ever seen. Every frame is touched by genuine emotion. I sound like a total fanboy and I guess I am, but its hard not to love Scorsese's work.
One reason that I respond more to Scorsese may be that he's as much a sociologist as he is a filmmaker. He shows you the rituals and morals (or lack thereof) of semi-closed societies that many of us are not privy to, and makes them come alive dramatically. Yet his films always feel intimate, as well. That's a hard feat to pull off consistently for so many years.
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these guys will pass into cinema history and other guys will come along and take their place
Fuck no. Youre ignorant
26:10, Scorsese giving credit to DePalma. What a good dude.
Jack Gordon
Their friends
He always ensures people know De Palma discovered DeNiro, especially after someone credits him for doing so
Fantastic!
I love how he asks them if there are any young filmmakers they are impressed by, and they come up with Gus Van Sant and Woody Allen - practically their peers, not young people.
I think it's interesting that the filmmaking community seems to have completely split down the middle in this decade. There are no moderately budgeted pictures anymore, there are only independent films made for cheap or multimillion dollar blockbuster productions. Often times, studios will search for new talent in the independent circuit, and pull them right up from doing $10,000 pictures to doing $50,000,000 pictures overnight, and it's not a healthy career choice. Just look at what the studio system did to Josh Trank.
THANK YOU ! ♡♡ An educational film for filmmmakers, script writers, actors, producers. It was a bit ANNOYING at times how they kept interrupting each other talking, but passionate and creative people may do that at times when being so entusiastic about the subject matter. I am guilty of that one myself ;) !
That guy in the background ought to know how lucky he is
I was trying to find a certain point in the interview so I set the playback speed to x2 and my god Scorsese has broken the sound barrier.
Masters of artistry in FILM.