Adding An X-pipe To My True Dual 4 Cylinder Exhaust - What Will it Sound Like?

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  • I add an x-pipe to the dual exhaust on my 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V to see what it sounds like.

Komentáře • 146

  • @RastaMouse1234
    @RastaMouse1234 Před rokem +543

    X-pipe does sound a lot smoother , but without it was much cooler

  • @KurumaDesigns
    @KurumaDesigns Před rokem +315

    The true duals sounded awesome! Kinda like a small v8 or an inline twin motorcycle, great video!

  • @spsproductions2614
    @spsproductions2614 Před rokem +198

    Awesome experiment and good work man! I still wanna hear 4 pipes all the way back😁

  • @johns818
    @johns818 Před 4 měsíci +12

    The x pipe needs to be designed based on the firing order of an inline 4 cylinder engine 1-3-4-2. The two cylinders in the middle fire together against the outer cylinders. Meaning that the middle two cross into the outer two. Your design is blending the opposite firing cylinders into one before it even hits the cross section... which will make it sound like a single exhaust.

  • @josephmiranda4568
    @josephmiranda4568 Před 9 měsíci +59

    Really appreciate the content! Here's another thought for a potential future experiment. You're currently routing the runners from cylinders 1 and 2 together, and then 3 + 4 together. What if you instead combined runners from cylinders 1 and 4 together and then 2 + 3 together, since their pistons coincide with top stroke? Might give a different exhaust note. Then record what that would sound like with and without x pipe. Hopefully you give this a shot. Huge fan!

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před 9 měsíci +11

      Thanks, yeah I made a video doing exactly that a couple weeks ago czcams.com/video/rEDtQp8po84/video.htmlsi=jlOWjcokoyFhS27x

  • @dickkickem5277
    @dickkickem5277 Před rokem +110

    I wonder what an H pipe would do for the sound. Loved this experiment.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem +46

      I'm wondering that too, I'm adding one soon

  • @jimmybritt9537
    @jimmybritt9537 Před rokem +22

    I like it better without the x-pipe too 👍👍🇺🇸

  • @SkylerB17
    @SkylerB17 Před 7 měsíci +8

    The x pipe just makes it sound more like a basic 4 cylinder. albeit it did sound smoother. But yea no x pipe sounded super interesting. would love to hear it in person

  • @lazo1995
    @lazo1995 Před rokem +20

    I love your energy bro! You should definetively have more subs
    Keep the content coming

  • @AIKA17R
    @AIKA17R Před rokem +2

    Saya baru selesai pengerjaan header, dan lanjut pengerjaan triple x pipe, terimakasih atas riset anda selama ini❤

  • @ben2turnt713
    @ben2turnt713 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Xpipe raspier v6 trumpet
    Straights clappier v8 rumble
    I like both 😂

  • @ridinglacs
    @ridinglacs Před rokem +5

    I like both sounds, I built a twin turbo 4 cyl and it could have used this x pipe

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster Před rokem +4

    So, I remember asking in the last vid if you did left half/right half, or inners and outers. You first replied the former, then made another comment correcting yourself saying it was the latter... However, based on your diagram in this video, it would be left half/right half.
    This is the traditional pairing for making a UEL, and if you made one pair 50% to 2x as long as the other, then joined them up into a single (or did an x-pipe) you'd get a subie rumble.
    On the other hand, if you changed it to inners and outers pair, it'd sound even more different (like a vintage British twin or BMW R1200), have better scavenging than left/right pairs, and subsequently doing the UEL thing to it might even make it sound a bit like a GT350 or a mid-80s Honda v65 magna with a MAC or Kerker 4-into-1 header, which I have videos of if you want to see/hear.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I was incorrect in the pairing of the headers, they were paired 1-3, 2-4. So the pulses were not even, which was the main reason for the choppy sound. I actually just finished changing the pairing of the headers, I'm editing that video right now.

  • @matt16438
    @matt16438 Před rokem +6

    Try true dual UEL length headers, basically an UEL length header split in half with one tube larger than the other and then the same for the other 2 tubes

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem +8

      Yeah I'm thinking I may make some EXTREMELY unequal length headers.

    • @riogrande163
      @riogrande163 Před rokem +2

      @@HatersGarage have one pipe straight and the other go ROUNDROUNDROUNDROUND for a hot minute and then have it exit out-

    • @braziliansheetbox2497
      @braziliansheetbox2497 Před rokem +2

      ​@@HatersGarageif you're going to make a uel header you May try a unique one, i've seen a lot of subaru style uel (1-2/3-4 1-3/2-4 2-4/3-1) all of then should sound like a subaru, but i never seen a 2-3 1-4 style, it should sound like 2 MT07 engines 😂

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem +2

      @@braziliansheetbox2497 I've had a lot of requests for headers, some crazier than others. Whichever I decide to go with it will be one-of-a-kind, that's for sure.

    • @joshdaniel7894
      @joshdaniel7894 Před rokem +2

      @@HatersGarageI’ve messed with unequal length headers and it made my ford sound like a boxer Subaru absolutely insane. I’m experimenting with a custom 4 to 4 header and 4 pipes all the way back. It’s got 4 1 3/4 pipes grouped together in twos routed like a dual exhaust about halfway back but I can’t even describe the sound it makes my crappy iPhone cant record it without brapping out lol

  • @seppo1659
    @seppo1659 Před 2 měsíci

    With the X-pipe it sounds like in Live For Speed when you make a custom engine sound and turn the roughness all the way to zero

  • @georgiaboy1579
    @georgiaboy1579 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I like both but the x pipe sounds so much better

  • @therealdaniel901
    @therealdaniel901 Před 7 měsíci +1

    X pipe refines the noise, true dual is just raw though. Great Video

  • @toyotabrony
    @toyotabrony Před rokem +2

    I honestly would love to have a full custom true dual exhaust on my 2015 lifted Scion xB. And I honestly see that make it sound more unique.
    Just two new magnaflow high-flow cat and two vibrant performance ultra quiet resonator. A full 2.5” exhaust. Now that I can see make ur more unique. More custom work but it be worth it.

  • @Christdeliverme
    @Christdeliverme Před 10 měsíci +1

    Got a sub for doing things differently. I've got lots of fun things for you to try.

  • @spectrospirit
    @spectrospirit Před 8 měsíci +1

    That true dual sound GLORIOUS!🤩🤩
    I really wanna do this on my 4 other cars which I have in storage, just different ways of doing it for each and everyone!
    Can you please try to create a true quad exhaust going in to 4 more with more length on the tubing for the next 4 making the total of 8?
    I think having the regular outlet close to the bank and 4 more further out will make the sound of this 4 cylinder sound like an 8 cylinder with additional spacing of the next 4 exhaust pulses😃
    Wanna give it a go?

    • @fireblow6842
      @fireblow6842 Před 7 měsíci

      I've been thinking about something similar for quite some time now. Would be epic to see

  • @terrynester
    @terrynester Před rokem +1

    Still sounds pretty good

  • @caboose22320
    @caboose22320 Před rokem +2

    Aye under 1000 subs club
    I WAS HERE
    YOURE GONNA GO FAR AS FUCK

  • @GeekBabbling
    @GeekBabbling Před 2 měsíci

    Sounds like a pair of motorcycles going together. Definitely an improvement over a regular 4

  • @guitrz000
    @guitrz000 Před rokem +1

    keep up the great work

  • @bigchi7635
    @bigchi7635 Před 9 měsíci

    Straight to hell with the X PIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @greenblue980
    @greenblue980 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for filling my curiosity

  • @u.e.u.e.
    @u.e.u.e. Před 4 měsíci

    Very nice! 😃👍
    I like the smooth sound.

  • @Luminous.Dynamics
    @Luminous.Dynamics Před rokem +2

    Pls make unequal lenght header + the dual pipes

  • @jackrm8
    @jackrm8 Před 3 měsíci

    Time to make one of these

  • @BigDonkMongo
    @BigDonkMongo Před rokem +1

    ooooh, yeah better without the x pipe but i respect ur channel subbed cause this is gonna pop off

  • @joshrodgers9366
    @joshrodgers9366 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Personally I like the true duals over the x pipe sound

  • @billionllc
    @billionllc Před 8 měsíci

    Sounds great! 💥

  • @KeaganExtremeGaming
    @KeaganExtremeGaming Před 6 měsíci

    The no x pipe reminds me of my forester when it had the stock na motor and exhaust

  • @HatersGarage
    @HatersGarage  Před 2 měsíci

    Here's the other experiment videos
    True Dual: czcams.com/video/yf2zUBb_AtE/video.html
    H-Pipe: czcams.com/video/hVKnvvYLDCE/video.html
    Changed Cylinder Pairing: czcams.com/video/rEDtQp8po84/video.html
    True Quad: czcams.com/video/peDOTCkcLJc/video.html

  • @pottasium7117
    @pottasium7117 Před 6 měsíci

    i kinda find this sounding like a cross between some sort of v6 and a b-series civic. Not a bad sound, but without is much better

  • @skyrfelkin
    @skyrfelkin Před rokem +2

    Do individual exhausts from header back plzzzzzzzzz

  • @user-sm9xd5gf9b
    @user-sm9xd5gf9b Před 6 měsíci

    Do a true quad exhaust but with 2 coupe’s one for each side

  • @Gunny426HemiPlymouth
    @Gunny426HemiPlymouth Před 6 měsíci

    Be neat to hear this on v6s

  • @FlatEarthCracka
    @FlatEarthCracka Před 3 měsíci

    Without x pipe sounds like the Subaru rumble

  • @DavidHadden
    @DavidHadden Před 6 měsíci

    I have a 2014 Focus ST and I'm thinking I should throw an X pipe on it. Nothing I could find on CZcams about what that set up would sound like on my car so now I'm dead set on x pipe for my car.

  • @Richardp860
    @Richardp860 Před 7 měsíci

    The true duald sounds like an old Porsche boxer

  • @rootbeer666
    @rootbeer666 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice weed trimmer sound

  • @bass4life294
    @bass4life294 Před 7 měsíci

    X Pipe sounds like Need For Speed Underground ✅

  • @billionllc
    @billionllc Před 8 měsíci

    I think it sounds better now

  • @charlieandersson4069
    @charlieandersson4069 Před 6 měsíci

    subaru style headers next also callen un-equal headers

  • @spenceronni7
    @spenceronni7 Před 6 měsíci

    Do a true dual by merging the outer two cylinders into one pipe, and the inner two into another.

  • @davidwarland2680
    @davidwarland2680 Před 6 měsíci

    1-4 and 2-3 is the better connection, equal timed pulse

  • @Tyresong
    @Tyresong Před 7 měsíci

    it sounded better when it had the nonturbo Impreza sound. the Xpipe made it sound like a honda

  • @thatautogarage3644
    @thatautogarage3644 Před rokem +3

    Damn, the X-pipe sounds way better and less inefficient.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem

      It is definitely more efficient with the X-pipe. Personally I don't like the buzzy sound.

  • @lemon_w0ter196
    @lemon_w0ter196 Před 4 měsíci

    Ferb ik what we’re gonna do today

  • @chasevollbrecht8085
    @chasevollbrecht8085 Před 6 měsíci

    Theres some options that i just thought of i wonder if it would have any effect.
    H pipe?
    True duals with cylinder split 1,2 then 3,4
    Patern change 1,3 then 2,4

  • @sinformant
    @sinformant Před 11 měsíci +1

    Are both of these just straight pipes? If so I think without the x pipe it would sound better with a couple mufflers or resonators to get rid of the rasp.

  • @thekornrole
    @thekornrole Před 6 měsíci

    went from a subaru to a 4 am neighbour civic

  • @4_14_fan
    @4_14_fan Před 4 měsíci

    Sounds like a baby gen 4 NASCAR

  • @oscarzt1652
    @oscarzt1652 Před rokem +2

    all youve done here is re-discover the 4-2-1 manifold. the true dual sounds good though almost like an old alfa romeo or lancia rally car.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem

      Sort of. It still a dual exhaust, it just sounds like a 4-2-1.

  • @samuelasquith1151
    @samuelasquith1151 Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve just watched your last vid and now this one, I wanna learn to weld to do this sort of stuff aha. Idk if you’ve done it but what about if you did 4 single pipes with 2 x pipes? So it would improve the flow and sound like the last vid? Thinking about it now I’m most likely wrong but hey ho

  • @matthewmoore661
    @matthewmoore661 Před 7 měsíci

    Much better

  • @flamespirit1
    @flamespirit1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Is that a song from Postal 2? 😅

  • @BladeBoxPT
    @BladeBoxPT Před 6 měsíci

    when from a subaru to a k series

  • @moedog07
    @moedog07 Před 7 měsíci +1

    No X pipe sounds best!

  • @halfkoreanboy
    @halfkoreanboy Před rokem

    No x pipe sounds really good

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn Před rokem +1

    I think maybe I prefer the X-pipe of the three.... At least from the video. Excellent job making interesting content, BTW!!

  • @ACupOfDuck
    @ACupOfDuck Před 6 měsíci

    It does look like it runs a little better than dual? Like 0-60 looks like allmost 2 seconds faster with x-pipe? Would be cool to dyno this and really find out!

  • @herbienbrian2
    @herbienbrian2 Před rokem +2

    This is sort of how BMW does it on their inline 6's.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem +2

      Yeah they use the weird split manifolds, my E30 has it.

  • @paullastname474
    @paullastname474 Před rokem +3

    H-pipe for the win!!!!!!!! try it bro

  • @NewHamburgShenanigans
    @NewHamburgShenanigans Před 6 měsíci

    Have to say no x pipe is more the sound I like

  • @mattiasljus9423
    @mattiasljus9423 Před 6 měsíci

    X-pipe a 5 cylinder just for the lols :D

  • @grantmills4184
    @grantmills4184 Před 10 měsíci

    Sounds like a k20 with the x pipe

  • @bomna5860
    @bomna5860 Před 6 měsíci

    The x pipe would sound like a v8 in qn engine that goes 11000 rpm

  • @williamwebster2211
    @williamwebster2211 Před 8 měsíci

    sounds more luxury sport tone, don't know what your looking for, maybe just cut mufflers and run x-pipe open exhaust. it will kill all the power under 3500 rpm

  • @THESLlCK
    @THESLlCK Před rokem +1

    the true dual sounded WAYYYYYY better

  • @DTM.Desperado
    @DTM.Desperado Před 10 měsíci

    Hear me out, 4 pipes off the block, one per cylinder. Two pipes side exit one side, two pipes side exit the other side. True quad exhaust. How would it sound?

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před 7 měsíci

      I did a true quad, I put them all on the same side though. czcams.com/video/peDOTCkcLJc/video.html

  • @niharkotyan7106
    @niharkotyan7106 Před rokem

    Make twinturbo with k&n air filter and straight pipe exhaust

  • @giuliozappata1280
    @giuliozappata1280 Před 7 měsíci

    I kinda prefer without the X pipe 😂

  • @kccarranza2750
    @kccarranza2750 Před rokem +1

    Aight so... individual pipes for each cylinder but then x-pipe pairs.

  • @danielhildebrand6892
    @danielhildebrand6892 Před 9 měsíci

    Now do a 1/3 2/4 split.

  • @accordv6er
    @accordv6er Před rokem

    So xpipe here is like a mega long tri y header

  • @TransAmDrifter
    @TransAmDrifter Před 6 měsíci

    Now it sounds like a honda. Without xpipe was better

  • @Drummerdude686
    @Drummerdude686 Před rokem +1

    Sounds better without X pipe, What about a 4 cylinder turbo?

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem

      That would require 2 turbos. Same sound but extra turbo noises.

  • @I_ammm_mojojojo
    @I_ammm_mojojojo Před 6 měsíci

    try a boom tube

  • @dawsonjackson1328
    @dawsonjackson1328 Před 3 měsíci

    can u get a v8 and put a shorty header on one side and a long tube on the other side

  • @omalleyc068
    @omalleyc068 Před rokem +3

    H pipe time? 😂

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem +2

      Lol. I'm guessing it would sound the same as the X pipe, but deeper.

  • @tmanrogers95
    @tmanrogers95 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm kind of curious what an h-pipe would sound like

  • @raymondchen6720
    @raymondchen6720 Před 6 měsíci

    I wonder what a H pipe would sound like

  • @cafn8ed74
    @cafn8ed74 Před 7 měsíci

    Yeah, definitely better without. I'll add, though that I'm the type who keeps driving his NA Subaru for another few years after the exhaust rots and falls off because it sounds good.

  • @johnpulei7916
    @johnpulei7916 Před 6 měsíci

    You forgetting the H PIPE🤦👍🥲

  • @TheS1PikesPeak
    @TheS1PikesPeak Před rokem +1

    Do a ignition following header, you will get surprised..😎

    • @KareemFloat
      @KareemFloat Před rokem +3

      1-3-4-2. like almost every other i4 engine both outer and both inners move together, you cant really do a set of headers like you can with v8s in a 8 into 1 to get that smooth f1 like sound as there's basically only 2 ignite cycles.
      he essentially made what you're asking for already. since both 3-4 and 1-2 ignite at the same time at tdc.
      if hooking up 1-2 and 3-4 is the header you want, its just gonna further sound like a less thumpy harley/2 cylinder and have worse exhaust flow than 1-3|4-2 headers he made.

  • @mariuspieterse7666
    @mariuspieterse7666 Před měsícem

    Went from broken subaru to vtek honda

  • @JB_Lego
    @JB_Lego Před 7 měsíci

    Pipe sounds like a honda

  • @dabreadman6567
    @dabreadman6567 Před 11 měsíci

    Can you do a pipe for each cylinder?😅

  • @frightenedskillet1051

    I think so an x then shoot it out the sides and it’ll sound different

  • @austinaltemeyer7302
    @austinaltemeyer7302 Před 5 měsíci

    I think it sounded much more mean and aggressive without the x pipe. And he agrees with me, he thinks the x pipe was a failure 😢 . I like the sound of no exhaust but I straightpiped every single car I've ever had because i love that straight pipe. No muffler. No resonator. I would delete my cats, But that's not legal. If you didn't know that well now you do. Now don't try and delete your cats thinking your gonna get away with it, just wait until your in need of a smog check 😢😢 , and now how are you gonna slove your problem, and still be able to get your vehicle smog checked 😢😢😢

  • @Camarosindahood
    @Camarosindahood Před 7 měsíci

    This kinda defeats the whole point though doesnt it? the fake duals of most 4 cylinders are just basically a long X pipe

  • @taliesinangling3564
    @taliesinangling3564 Před 6 měsíci

    Pretty sure it isnt a true duel once there’s an X pipe or h pipe.

  • @TeaganGagne
    @TeaganGagne Před rokem

    how did you true dual pipie a 4cyl

  • @THEDnARACER
    @THEDnARACER Před rokem

    Sooooo now unequal length headers

  • @eliot3122
    @eliot3122 Před 6 měsíci

    h pipe maybe?

  • @BretButlerSr
    @BretButlerSr Před 7 měsíci

    Add a h pipe

  • @Atrociousa3
    @Atrociousa3 Před rokem

    What about twin turbos

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před rokem

      I would totally do it. That would be a more "high budget" video for another time, though.

  • @LuisELopezGarcia
    @LuisELopezGarcia Před 9 měsíci

    You probably have too large of a diameter for the dual without x pipe.

    • @HatersGarage
      @HatersGarage  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Oh absolutely, I just used 2" so I could put it on other stuff later.