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Genesis are an English rock band formed at Charterhouse School, Godalming, Surrey, in 1967. The band's most commercially successful line-up consisted of keyboardist Tony Banks, bassist/guitarist Mike Rutherford and drummer/singer Phil Collins. In the 1970s, during which the band also included singer Peter Gabriel and guitarist Steve Hackett, Genesis were among the pioneers of progressive rock.
"Mama" is a song by the English rock band Genesis, released as the first single in 1983 from their self-titled album. It is recognisable for its harsh drum machine introduction composed by Mike Rutherford, which leads into minimalist synthesizer lines in a minor tonality and finally Phil Collins' reverb-laden voice.
Composers: Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Mike Rutherford
Producer: Genesis, Hugh Padghem
Performed by Genesis
Genres: Folk, Pop, World
Origin: Godalming, Surrey, England
Date
1990
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Everybody always forgets the contribution made by Chester Thompson on these live recordings - what a drummer!
Not the real fans. They know Chester drve this juganauht live.
Dude blows it out every single time!
When him and Phil dual drum in concert it was epic.
Thank you for a serious name check for Chester.
​@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 listen Doc, you may know your elbow from your kneecap, but you obviously know little about drummers. Now get back to your stethoscope and leave the music to those that know.
Even with all the fame and attention, I would still argue Collins is very underrated. Superbly subtle drummer, great songwriter and an incredibly charismatic and entertaining singer. No idea who is the best drummer of all time, in fact no idea how to measure it. but Phil and Neil Peart are for me the best composers of drums of all time.
By now, in 2023, the use of the adjective, “underrated†should be just totally banned from the CZcams comments section. It’s hard to find, maybe possibly even impossible to find one music video on CZcams where absolutely nobody invoked the term “underrated†to describe the band or a member of the band or a song or whatever. By whose standard is someone or something underrated? Why would you even be arguing about that?
And best drum composers “of all time?†You’re going to have to go back further than that. Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Carl Palmer…
@@TenMinuteTrips This is what was going through my head when reading his post. Glad I didn't have to write it. Should just say Phil is my favorite drummer and leave it at that.
@@TenMinuteTrips So you disagree. Fair enough, I don't agree with you, although I would add Palmer to the list of great composers. Also I think underrated is particularly applicable to Collins as he is more often than not dismissed or ridiculed because of his chart success.
@@petercofrancesco9812 Didn't say that and leave it at that cos that wasn't what I said.
@@TenMinuteTrips I've been saying this for years. Underrated is a nonsense term. Not underrated by the thousands that go to the concerts or the millions that buy the records. Only underrated by those who have never heard of him.....and then if you don't know who he is, then you can't rate him anyway. Well said sir
Genesis is without a doubt one of the best bands ever created, I saw them on 2021 live and it was AMAZING!
this vocal performance is still one of his best. At this point in his development, he really mastered the "growl" in his voice designed to project power. The studio version continues to give me goosebumps 40 years later or whatever it's been. Despite his success, he remains painfully underrated both as a complete singer and as one of the most innovative and distinctive drummers in the history of the medium. While people may only remember '80's Phil, the body of his work in it's entirety will go down as one of the most diverse, influential and successful of anyone.
What a legacy!
What a vapor trail to leave behind!
It was used on an episode of Magnum P.I. and it set the mood perfectly.
Great reaction and analysis. Mama is one of my favorite Genesis songs of all time. I've always felt that Phil Collins was criminally underrated as both a singer and a drummer. I think maybe his massive commercial success and acclaim as a songwriter got in the way of him being taken seriously as a musician. He wasn't particularly flashy on either vocals or drums, but very unique and emotive.
He was an entertainer and anybody that talks that trash about success is just jealous. NO ONE sounds like Phil Collins!
Great comment. None of Genesis (with the possible exception of Peter Gabriel) were flashy, just superb musicians. Phil Collins made everyone better and elevated the band.
I remember in 80s having a Betamax video of a Genesis concert and during this song Phil goes back to a drum kit and does a duo drum solo with Chester Thompson.
he was never underrated as drummer. He is included in all top list of drummers and his influence and style are recognized by many famous drummers
@@beshuro I started looking at those lists in '85, when he was at the height of his popularity and I never saw him on any of them. There were the classics like Bonzo, Peart and Moon ... occasionally Baker or Mitchell and the (then) current guys like Lee, Benante and Lombardo, but I never saw Collins or any other pop guys for that mater. He sold countless records and did a ton of session work and it could be argued that that's more important, but he was never considered a great drummer in the public consciousness.
A Genesis concert was an amazing light and sound show. I went to see them every time they came to my city. It never disappointed.
How can I not love Genesis? I'm a drummer and 2 of my favorite drummers were in the same band! (Chester Thompson and Phil Collins)! I reckon myself somewhat of a singer, and Phil is one of my favorites there too. Collins' creativity is unique and so very entertaining.
The official video is amazing. My only Genesis concert was the best of my entire and very long life. Collins' charisma on stage was marvelous. When he and Chester did their drum duet, it brought down the house. Both in his solo work and with Genesis, live is best. His timing, pitch, and tone are always spot-on. An amazing band of true musicians.
I saw Phil solo and Genesis about 10 times over my life. I wish I would have gone to more. Phil and Chester were magical together.
Shoutout to Tony Banks, the true music mastermind of Genesis. Love Peter, love Phil, but Tony is what made Genesis what it was. And is.
YES. Thank you. The older Genesis fans "blame" Phil for the pop sound of the latter albums...but it was Tony who talked about always doing pop songs, short and sweet and musically diverse, from the start. There is a docu here on CZcams (don't remember the name), where Tony himself says this.
​@@charlesedward5047they were a band even though Banks was the main composer and Gabriel and then Collins the frontmen.
Just think that Phil wanted to go full instrumental before seriously consider to sing himself
I was there that day back in 1990 - it was a fantastic day with Tears for Fears, Elton John, Eric Clapton, Dire Straits, Robert Palmer with Jimmy Page, Phil Collins (solo), Genesis, Paul McCartney and Pink Floyd!!!
And rain and wind! Couldn’t even erect the projection screen. Hey Jude ran for a little while 🤗. Fortunately Knebworth was a 20 minute walk from home. ðŸ˜
So was I
What a privilege. I would have lost my mind with that lineup.
Phil is an incredible live singer.
Got to love Genesis. And Phil's vocal on this is superb. Been following them since late 70's
I love how excited Beth gets when she hears something she likes! Fun!
I was in the audience for this concert they were awesome they are one of the best live bands I've ever seen
I saw them in 1978 and completely agree!
Awesome song, awesome performance. Had the pleasure of seeing it live at least 3 times, including the " Mama" tour. There's nothing like watching the lighting rig descend towards the stage during the first crescendo of the chorus. Hair raising!🤠ðŸ‘ðŸ‘ðŸ‘
I love when music wasn’t about appearance or what you wore. Phil’s literally wearing slacks and a dress shirt and killing it and people are loving every second
Loved your reaction to Mama. Genesis are my favourite band of all time, I have been listening to both sides of Genesis for over 40 years. Always finding new elements in their music. Phil is a fantastic vocalist and drummer. Hope you do some more Genesis in the future.
Back on the original Magnum p.i. back in the 80s , they used this song in one of its episodes about a serial killer. Song matched the mood perfectly you almost would have thought it been written for that episode
Did they? I don't remember that and I was a big Magnum fan back in the day.
​@Serendipity Girl Indeed it was. It was played on the seventh season and titled "Death and Taxes".
“A wise old owl lived in an oak. The more he saw the less he spoke. The less he spoke the more he heard. “ Why can’t we all be like that wise old bird?
I remember that episode! They played the entire song! Probably was expensive as hell
"We paid for the whole dann thing, we're gonna play that whole damn thing!"
OMG yeah, I completely forgot about that. It worked really well. Gonna have to go back and watch Magnum again. Really unique show that had a lot of effort behind it. Loved that you never knew what you were going to get from episode to episode, from silly comedy to tragedy, adventure, war based drama, buddy based drama, mystery, supernatural spooky, spoof, parody, etc. Read somewhere that Magnum was the first network show to ever feature a cold blooded murder by the HERO of the show, when Magnum killed Ivan, knowing that his diplomatic immunity would allow him to get away with war crimes in the past and murder in present day Hawaii. Not many shows ever took that sort of risk. Not only did they get away with it, it worked within the narrative of the character.
Probably my most favorite Genesis song
Phil never failed to give you nothing less than the best
Did see them in Germany, Mnnheim, Maimarkt. About 50000 Viewers, first came Paul Young, raining all the time, audience not amused, ok it was not fair, Genesis appeared and the sun came out. Come on, that was a sign ;). Concert was great. Thx for watching
Why do I forget how much I love Phil Collins? His work with Genesis, his solo work, and his time with Brand X. His drumming is impeccable and his voice is so individual. One of a kind. 😎
Wow! One of my all time favorites. The studio version of this is also well worth a listen to get the full impact.
The live vocal inflections, going for all those high notes, plus rare adherence to the original key really make this performance stand out.
As someone who grew up with all of this music, it's wonderful to see you getting as much joy from it as I did and in fact, still do. Thanks for this one. It was wonderful.
Still have this on vinyl … love it
All these years later, this song still gives me goose bumps.
One of my favourite songs of all times. I still have this on vinyl, which was a 24th birthday present from my then boyfriend in 1984 as he knew how much I loved this song! Just got goosebumps again, hearing this.
Knebworth 1990 was a legend heavy concert, the lineup was intimidating.
It is very interesting to hear you analyze my favorite vocalists. Phil Collins replaced Peter Gabriel in the progressive rock band Genesis in 1975, and many listeners could often not tell the difference between Phil's and Peter's vocals, often thinking Phil was the only singer in Genesis or thinking it was the same singer after 1976. Peter's and Phil's harmonies in Genesis were lush and gorgeous because of their similarities. You seem not to have reacted to any solo Pete Gabriel songs or any Genesis songs with Peter. I would be very interested to hear your side-by-side comparison of the two singers, especially of their Genesis songs. The live version of Peter's solo masterpiece "In Your Eyes" may change your life. Peter's character voices in the 20-minute Genesis epic "Supper's Ready" and throughout the concept double-album The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway showcase Peter at his best. I hope you listen to more progressive music vocalists. Thank you!
Can you imagine having TWO of the best male singers in one rock band? I think Gabriel's best vocal work, showing his vast range, is contained in the epic 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'. (and with such interesting music) There is a video out there on CZcams that isolates Phil's voice when singing with Peter in The Lamb recording. I had no idea Collins could sing SO high. His falsetto in those harmonies is mesmerizing. And Gabriel's range may be even wider!
Agreed. "The Carpet Crawlers" from The Lamb Lies Down would be a good choice.
Killer version and the expanded live version og Genesis have always been a killer!
I love Genesis. One of my favorite underrated tracks that I recommend everyone check out is "Driving the Last Spike". It's such a powerful song about working on the Trans Siberian Railroad.
Correct, but it’s about the construction of Britain’s railways.
@@DocRock67 Gotcha. Thanks for the correction!
Didn't get into Genesis until high school in the very early 80's and missed Peter Gabriel with them. What really impressed me was Phil's drumming while singing like others I really admired like Levon Helm of The Band and Don Henley of The Eagles. Imagine if you were a drummer and Phil asks you to play drums for him. Had not seen this performance before, and love it. BTW: Love the blazer, Beth. Really makes your eyes POP.
Phil really didn't sing and drum at the same time. He did some harmony stuff when Gabriel was in the band, but after Gabriel left, I don't think Phil ever sang from behind the kit. He would always go back to the front when the singing parts came up and let Chester handle the drumming.
Yes! We rock singers can do incredible stuff. You're welcome!
The combination of the almost horror movie keyboard chords and the drums and Collins's voice never ceases to give me gooseflesh. And that it's such a dark, atmospheric song, it's great!
I'm still a little bitter that in 1984, within months of each other, Genesis and the Hard Rock group Van Halen came through where I grew up in Idaho, USA and my mom said we could go to one show or the other. We ended up going to see Van Halen. Mind blowing as VH's show was, I wish now I could have seen Genesis on tour for the Mama album too
Oh well.
Because i've been around a good number of years now, Genesis seem to have always been there, providing the backing tracks as I progressed through life.
I think I last saw Phil Collins live around 1998 and he and his band were phenomenal.. Thank you Beth...
You are by far my favorite vocal coach on CZcams.
Great job.
Thank you Beth for this. I’ve seen Genesis and Phil a few times, always a fantastic show. It breaks my heart to see him now and all that he is going through. I will be forever changed with his passing, which I pray won’t be for a long time. I will definitely check your channel out. You were spot on in your analysis.
Phil Collins is one of my favorite vocalists of all time - he makes a lot of beautiful decisions along with a very "clean" voice - love the textures he adds and his runs are so effortless. I wish more people were talking about his voice. He makes it sound so easy. He also has beautiful vocal fry.
I never realised what this song was about. So thankyou for the prompt to look it up. I concentrated more on the music rather than the lyrics in those days.
Lifelong Phil Collins fan here, but his best work with Genesis came in the late 70s, especially on the first two albums after Peter Gabriel left. His singing on Entangled and Dance on a Volcano is amazing.
And everything on the classic live album, Seconds Out!
Yeah, as soon as he got into songwriting everything else kind of went to the wayside.
Phil was peak sexiness in the 80’s and I’m still smitten every time I see him ðŸ˜
When Phil worked with Peter Gabriel, on Peter's 3rd album, he really developed his iconic "Phil" sound. They developed the gated reverb on the drums for that album, and Phil went on to make that his iconic sound.
Also, Peter said that there wouldn't be any cymbals on his album, and there aren't. Not a crash, hi-hat, ride, all the drums are done without any cymbals. Peter thought it would play into the darker ambience of the album. So Phil had to mess around with the drums in a way that didn't use cymbals, and he carried a lot of that forward as well.
I'm typically not a fan of his, but as a drummer myself, I do love his drumming.
Absolutely love Genesis. Thank you for finding and reacting to this performance Beth. Such a great song and Phil hit everything perfectly. I would love to hear you react to their song Abacab from the album by the same name. Time to do a Genesis binge!
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Geoff Calligham lives a couple of miles from me. I have a mutual friend. If you would like an interview with one of the team that created the sound of Phil Tony Mike & Peter and other projects he's worked on from Trespass in 1970 you can reach out.
I really liked how you took the style of Isaak's song in a totally different direction. The drum sequence being a straighter pulse with almost no upbeats mixed with your singing approach in a unique and surprising style direction, which I personally think should be done more with covers.
Your tone and technique were really impressive, and I appreciate the times I thought you pulling out deliberate flexes, like the whistle falsetto towards the end, (or whatever that stuff is called). Makes me think of some of the 80s hard rock guitar slinging, a sorta one-uping, like "can you do this, hmm?"
Great Performance
To anyone who's not yet heard it, do yourself a favour!
Loved it
Love it, love it. Now... Let's do Sparks!
Phil is/was such a talent and a great performer. My favorite Phil story is I went to see one of his concerts on his solo No Jackets Required tour. It was at a large 30,000+ seat indoor arena that was packed to the rafters. Fairly early in the show the house/main speaker towers went out... The only sound was from their stage monitors.. Phil stopped the show and after a couple minutes of waiting to see if they could get the main speakers back up, he turned around his vocal monitor to the crowd and proceeded to entertain us with maybe 30 minutes of the craziest dirty jokes & stories... They finally managed to get everything running again and he still went ahead and performed another nearly 3 hours of his solo music and Genesis music.. I'll never forget that night.
Omg, Beth just listened to wicked game. Your voice is haunting. I could listen to you all day. I wish I could take lessons from you.
Wow, thank you! I'm totally booked out at the moment but can send you some other awesome coaches if you would like?
thank you for sharing this amazing performance! you rock!
Guys if ya'll haven't listened to Beths cover of Wicked games yet, you owe it to yourself to do so. Hauntingly beautiful.
I was at this show. First time I got to see Genesis in the flesh. Knebworth 1990 was an amazing show. Tears for Fears; Cliff Richard And The Shadows; a supergroup with Eric Clapton, Elton John & Mark Knopfler; Robert Plant (with a surprise guest in the form of Jimmy Page; Phil Collins solo then Genesis; Paul McCartney and all ending with Pink Floyd. And all for around 30 GBP.
Great choice for a reaction vid. I saw the Mama Tour in 1983. This song is what I remember most. I had main floor, 13th row center seats at the Rosemount Horizon in Chicago, Illinois, USA. For this song the arena was pitch black with green lazer lighting. When Phil did the evil screams just his face was lit from below. It was creepy and amazing all at once.
Thank you for your reaction. I was lucky to be at this concert, one of the best Genesis concerts. The crowd were amazing, a very memorable concert by a great band.
yeah, what a band!!! pure music genius!!! thanks phill!!!
Great vocal by Phil and Chester was a beast on those drums! Loved seeing them play side by side.
Thank you Beth for this reaction video. Be blessed ðŸ™
Great breakdown of one of my all time favorite songs
That was one of my favorite songs, back around 1988 when I was 17. I'd sing along with it all the time. I'd never heard a liver version before, but it's not that different, especially Phil's vocals, which are nearly note for note like the studio version, save for the very end.
This concert was an all day event for Nordoff Robbins charity. The Phil Collins band were joined by the Genesis guys half way through the set. Have a look at the final song with the full Collins band including horn section and legend bass player and fellow CZcamsr Leland Sklar. Blues Brothers medely at the end is brilliant.
I'm so glad you were impressed with this. Genesis are my all time favourite band. Having tried to sing Mama twice at a Karaoke, I know how difficult it is to stay in tune, but I am not a regular singer any more !
This was my first number of Genesis I simply Loved listening to. I first heard it in 1988 (14 years old) so 5 years after the debut, But damn It is sooo powerfull. Hi from Denmark 🇩🇰🥰
I was there, amazing gig, amazing artists, but I'm a Genesis fan, and this was my favourite of the day.
Very happy memories 😊
Thanks Beth. Phil always makes my night a little better...as do you.
The album version is where he really pours his guts into this song.
I wish you could have seen them then.
They were phenomenal. Utterly sublime.
I was there. It was a fantastic day.
The Brit’s had the lock down on the 80’s electronic psychedelic sound for sure!
I saw the tour in Buffalo in 1984 when this song was being promoted and it was the best concert I've ever seen.
THANK YOU for doing Mama! Everyone goes for In The Air Tonight by Phil but this gem always gets overlooked for some reason. Also, your song Power of the Wolf is slammin'!!! SO SO SOOOOOOO GOOD!
Grandissima canzone, la stavo ascoltando appunto proprio ieri. È nella mia playlist personale da quando uscì 💪ðŸ»ðŸ’¯
In my opinion this is their finest from the 80's catalogue. Just an epic song AND performance.
Best live version.
Great reaction!
Firstly it is a drum machine sample. And it is also funny how phil gets the words in the wrong order. I was there awesome performance.
I was just listening to "Separate Lives" directly before watching this. 😃😃
Amazing reactions
You know you are one of the biggest rock bands on the planet when the elements add to the special effects
It’s all those songs that start simple and bring in the drums later. Tonight, mama, don’t care anymore. But Phil gave all of those songs a unique sound.
One of the great drummers. But also a fantastic vocalist. My favorite band. Original always. Please have a listen to Ripples from A Trick of the Tail. Love to hear your take on that one. Keep up the great work. Andy. Kent.
This reaction video and this performance should be an ad for going to see live music. You may like/or dislike certain recordings or albums by any given artist, but until you hear that song performed live, you don't really have an idea of just how good or powerful a performance can be in person. It can take on a whole different meaning for you. What a gig, and what a performance! 🙌
It was a great day, rain showers off and on, very nice line up with PF to finish
Great song. One of my favorite Genesis songs. I was able to see them live during the Invisible Touch Tour. In Chicago Illinois. Had front row center seats. It was a spectacular show. Check out Phil Collins solo song In The Air Tonight, there is a great live version that will blow your mind.
Always getting goosebumps
Dam.... i had bought the 45 rpm record (always in my home) in 1984, when i was in High School (and yet a little young Metal Bassit, son of Sir Steve Harris).
That was a mindblowing song in Club !!!
Thx Dear about your React here... stay & keep safe
So glad I got to see them one last time on The Last Domino tour. Phil may not be able to drum anymore, but the man can still sing! This song was amazing as always
I saw them on this tour in Detroit. They were amazing!!
Great seeing this reaction, Beth. Phil seems to be very polarizing as a singer. Personally, I love his voice. Singing as a different character, as he does in “Mama†was very much a carryover from the Peter Gabriel era of the band… a technique Gabriel continued to use as he moved on with his solo career.
My favorite era of Genesis (Duke, Abacab, and Genesis albums). Invisible Touch was big while I was in high school, but the preceding albums were in rotation on my study playlist in college. Phil Collins was at his apex at that time between Genesis and his solo work. He remains my favorite drummer.
Great fun watching you inmate Phil and laughing ! :)
8:36-8:46. 🤣😂🤣
Thank you. I am just a Phil and Genesis fan, I never really thought about Phil as a vocal talent. Drums., drums and more drums
I know he can/could sing he made a living out of it. It's nice to hear a different perspective on a voice I grew up with and maybe took for granted. Phil is the best. Thank you. Love Adam x
React mor for Genesis live, Beth. We learn a lot with your comments. Excelent! ðŸ‘ðŸ‘ðŸ‘
The whole self-titled album is a great bridge from the prog era to the pop era Genesis - I generally try to ignore that _Abacab_ exists. so that is sits between _Duke_ and _Invisible Touch_ :)
Beth, great analysis, and hope you look at more Genesis ðŸ‘😀
I forgot how good this live version was , Cheers Beth
“Shapes†is my favorite album with this, Home by the Sea, Illegal Alien, Silver Rainbow, Just a job to do and That’s All.
Beth, you are wicked! Great cover of a great song.
What can I say, I grew up on Genesis and they performed near me, when I was a teenager in a college. Peter was with them then though. I am ancient! Such a good analysis of a drummer turned singer. Still preferred him as a drummer though! I am surprised that you have not analysed Peter Gabriel in early Genesis. Peter has an amazing voice.
Love this song and many others from Phil and Genesis.
A great performance of a great song.
I remember this when it came out, it was most odd and certainly stood out, it was 1983 so punk and new wave were gone, so was Ska/2-tone, we were hearing on the radio shiny synth pop, US Black electro soul on the radio along with saccharine ballads and novelty songs.
The great Chester Thompson on drums!
I saw them on the Mama Tour in 1984, this and Home By The Sea were great. It was the second of three concerts. The night before was Lionel Richie and the night after was ZZ Top on the Eliminator tour.
My favourite part of this track was Collins' drumming towards the end.... those draggy fills that could only possibly be him. Bloody marvellous.
Phil can even scream in tune!