THEATRE NERD REACTS TO HAZBIN HOTEL - EPISODE 6 - WELCOME TO HEAVEN

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  • @delphoxhoopa7289
    @delphoxhoopa7289 Před 4 měsíci +2209

    I love the touch of fire in Sera's eyes. It shows that she's so warped in her beliefs that she's become no better than the "demons" she thinks the citizens of Hell are.

    • @jacksonmac5229
      @jacksonmac5229 Před 4 měsíci +48

      My brother. The video has been out for 11 minutes and it’s 43 minutes long.

    • @atransdragonwithaflamethro7255
      @atransdragonwithaflamethro7255 Před 4 měsíci +93

      @@jacksonmac5229 they've probably watched the episode before??

    • @GuukanKitsune
      @GuukanKitsune Před 4 měsíci +131

      Even better, immediately after, when Em rejects her sister's excuses and lies, Em flies above Sera, and glares down at her with her _own_ eyes glowing also... but not with hellfire, with HOLY LIGHT in her eyes.
      Em is above her sister's moral failings and is the one of the two that is filled with the Holy Light and reacting to the Exterminations in the way a Righteous person SHOULD be.

    • @delphoxhoopa7289
      @delphoxhoopa7289 Před 4 měsíci +14

      ​@@jacksonmac5229I'm fast like that. 😎♀️

    • @delphoxhoopa7289
      @delphoxhoopa7289 Před 4 měsíci +22

      ​@@GuukanKitsune They were both born in Heaven, but Emily is the only real Angel.

  • @Icicleburg
    @Icicleburg Před 4 měsíci +633

    Weeby: Don't be threatened by her, just imagine her without her mask!
    Lute: (takes off mask)
    Weeby: *Oh no she's hot!*

  • @mitaka70
    @mitaka70 Před 4 měsíci +698

    "Damn it.... She's hot..." That's literally everyone's reaction to Lute.

    • @Jroobelucios
      @Jroobelucios Před 4 měsíci +3

      ???

    • @Swap-Engel
      @Swap-Engel Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@Jroobeluciosyeah idk either

    • @grammarnazivelux9495
      @grammarnazivelux9495 Před 4 měsíci +2

      she is not real person dude....

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@grammarnazivelux9495
      In other news, "fire indeed hot."

    • @theowlgang3390
      @theowlgang3390 Před 4 měsíci

      like ik she's bad and a horrible person and most likely homophobic
      but also like
      shes kinda hot

  • @Azeeeer
    @Azeeeer Před 4 měsíci +789

    10:46 glad to see that everyone else had the same reaction to Lute without her mask

    • @Spyko-
      @Spyko- Před 4 měsíci +73

      if mean why hot ? :c

    • @C3.J4Y
      @C3.J4Y Před 4 měsíci +59

      Oh buddy she had me since ep 1, her face reveal just fueled the fire that was alr burning within me 😭

    • @CharginChuck
      @CharginChuck Před 4 měsíci +34

      Most of the reactions I've seen were shocked at how much she looks like Amity from The Owl House.

    • @gamerbear84
      @gamerbear84 Před 4 měsíci +45

      "Oh no, she's haaawt!" lol

    • @gamerbear84
      @gamerbear84 Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@CharginChuck Most? Really? I don't recall hearing anyone make that comparison yet. Well, a lotta people ARE checking the series out.

  • @watershipup7101
    @watershipup7101 Před 4 měsíci +767

    You see the spider like girl in the bottom left corner, that's Molly, Angel Dust's sister. Just a fun bit of lore I thought I'd point out. And it shows his being a good brother towards Niffty is from experience.

  • @black-shadow-eclipse
    @black-shadow-eclipse Před 4 měsíci +892

    The way Charlie and Emily reprise the refrain of Hell is forever give me chills everyime. ❤ Emily is such a sweety, I love how she is Charlie's counterpart in heaven.

    • @Otisboy121
      @Otisboy121 Před 4 měsíci +18

      Definitely hit some Wicked Musical vibes.

    • @fuzzylittlespider
      @fuzzylittlespider Před 4 měsíci +12

      It is literally the best part in the whole series. My mouth dropped open the first time I saw them singing in tandem it gave me goosebumps!

    • @icemagiciangh3268
      @icemagiciangh3268 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Out of the roughly twenty songs (I believe), ‘You Didn’t Know’ is in my top 3. Charlie and Emily’s moment _made it_

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Před 4 měsíci +2

      Interesting fact:
      Sera is actually Metatron. Lucifer form the show is Sandelphon (not Satan) so Emily is actually Raziel aka the Christ.

    • @Otisboy121
      @Otisboy121 Před 4 měsíci

      @@TheRezro 😗……huh….

  • @Dwags789
    @Dwags789 Před 4 měsíci +1034

    Just so you know, the CharliexVagiexEmily ship is named Charlie’s Angels.

    • @ltheoddboy
      @ltheoddboy Před 4 měsíci +187

      charlie's angels... thats so mf cute. i dont even ship it but oh my god that ship name is adorable

    • @YuningHour
      @YuningHour Před 4 měsíci +60

      THATS SO CUTE GSHSG

    • @Joannes808
      @Joannes808 Před 4 měsíci +40

      To the fanfiction websites away!!! o/

    • @minoassal
      @minoassal Před 4 měsíci +9

      You cooked🔥

    • @ronswasonbutcuter4474
      @ronswasonbutcuter4474 Před 4 měsíci +49

      Okay so I don't ship the trio BUT. I love that ship name that's amazing

  • @The-Rguy
    @The-Rguy Před 4 měsíci +575

    Angelic weapons destroy the soul. If you get get killed by them, your evil spreads out everywhere, that's why there's eyes everywhere. But if you die in Hell by normal means in Hell, it's painful as fuck but you respawn but feel it all

    • @zeleeba8774
      @zeleeba8774 Před 4 měsíci +98

      Also sinners who own souls can destroy the soul of their debtors without angelic weapons. Alastor said in episode 5 that he could tear apart Husk's soul. So if Angel doesn't come to the studio, then Valentino can break the contract and end Angel's existence.

    • @LuciLovesDucks
      @LuciLovesDucks Před 4 měsíci +14

      @@zeleeba8774I don’t disagree with your statement…but I have a feeling that Alastor may of meant more to that threat than he let on. He did take out those overlords when first showed up in hell and broadcasted their screams on the radio. As far as I know, those overlords were never seen again…so did Alastor figure out a way to tear a mortal soul apart without the use of angelic weapons? I’m not really sure if those overlords disappearing have anything to do with his deal with the mystery person, or if it has anything to do with his powers being strongly linked with the practice of voodoo. I’m not really sure, but I am curious.

    • @zeleeba8774
      @zeleeba8774 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@LuciLovesDucks What you say is true, but Alastor stressed that he would break Husk's chain. It's like his soul. So Valentino can break Angel's chain or break the contract, ending his existence.
      Yes, Alastor overthrew the old Overlords without angelic weapons. He separated their souls from their bodies with some kind of spell after defeating them, then sealed them in his pocket dimension and tortured them until they gave him their souls and the souls they owned. Alastor wanted to do the same with Adam.

    • @riccardomosena4162
      @riccardomosena4162 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@zeleeba8774The body IS the soul, you can't separate them

    • @Trojianmaru
      @Trojianmaru Před 4 měsíci +10

      ​@@riccardomosena4162wrong, you absolutely can. The writing team have already officially declared that when a sinner is killed with an angelic weapon, their body and soul are separated
      The weapons don't really kill the soul though. The Sinner's soul wanders hell, invisible and untouchable, until they merge with some item.
      Sr still don't know. If the soul can communicate with people (like Alistor's candy in the pilot

  • @MisterPunch19
    @MisterPunch19 Před 4 měsíci +93

    My favorite little detail in this episode is how the Angels react when Charlie says F*ck but don't bat an eye when Adam does it, it really shows their implicit bias.

    • @ilovecats52fandom
      @ilovecats52fandom Před 4 měsíci +18

      Fair, although I think Emily’s more shocked that someone like Charlie would swear, considering she’s very open-minded, and even says that the angels are “bringing misery to thousands of *innocent* people”

  • @DanGamingFan2846
    @DanGamingFan2846 Před 4 měsíci +730

    Can we take a moment to appreciate how much Angel Dust has grown as a person? The way he protects Niffty and stood up to Val. He's come a long way from his pilot self. I'm proud of our Spider boy. Also, the way Charlie and Emily reprise the refrain of "Hell Is Forever." with new lyrics that call out Sera and Adam's hypocrisy is just glorious. "You Didn't Know" as a whole is amazing, but that part hit's especially hard.

    • @fumetsu-950
      @fumetsu-950 Před 4 měsíci +10

      yepp, i honestly thought after the fight he would earn a place in heaven aswell.

    • @caseyp5861
      @caseyp5861 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@fumetsu-950But nope because angels are a bunch of hypocrites and don’t know how a soul gets in heaven.

    • @kelskinnie
      @kelskinnie Před 4 měsíci +8

      YOU, YOU TRULY ARE THE HAZBIN HOTEL FAN. I SEE YOU ON EVERY. SINGLE. REACTION VIDEO.

    • @RoxasOnSummerVacation
      @RoxasOnSummerVacation Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@kelskinnie EXACTLY! AND HE COMMENTS THE SAME THING FOR THIS SPECIFIC EPISODE ON EVERY SINGLE ONE!

    • @ImLucasStuff
      @ImLucasStuff Před 4 měsíci +2

      Dan drop me a 10 with the way you haunt me in every comment section

  • @BGTitanAvatar
    @BGTitanAvatar Před 4 měsíci +346

    Thinking back to Vaggie’s lines in Whatever It Takes, those definitely hit differently now that we have context. “When I saw your face, you made me feel like a stranger in a brand new place, and it felt so good to be understood, there’s so much that I wish I could say.”
    So Vaggie’s love language is Acts of Service, which makes sense seeing as she was in the Exorcist army, where you’re literally just trained to follow orders and that’s your whole worth. So for her to lose all that, and then meet Charlie who is possibly the first person to show Vaggie true love and affection, of course she’s going to become undying loyal and devoted to her. That’s the only kind of love she knows how to give.
    As for her making herself into armor/an inanimate object, I think Husk said it best. Vaggie hates herself and again, a lot of her self worth is tied into being the protector, the spear, the person who will make Charlie’s dreams a reality at the cost of herself if she has to. Which…. Frick me they really need to have a conversation about that, get this girl a therapist please.
    Also, unrelated, but for as much of a shit person Lute is…. I love her voice. Literally my favorite part of You Didn’t Know. 10/10 have listened to that specific part again and again.

    • @DarthRayj
      @DarthRayj Před 4 měsíci +21

      As someone who's also got some issues around being valued only for being useful, I relate a lot to Vaggie and similar characters. Any time there's someone who's been trained/abused into thinking of themselves as an inanimate object with an arc about learning how to actually be themselves, it strikes home, and I hope Vaggie can have a bit more of that arc next season.

    • @barrygeistwhite3474
      @barrygeistwhite3474 Před 4 měsíci +23

      I cannot wait for Lute's villain song next season, I'm 1000% sure it's gonna be an absolute banger. Don't even make her share the spotlight, just have her solo that shit out.

    • @richardkutsera4992
      @richardkutsera4992 Před 4 měsíci

      @@DarthRayj I have learned something interesting - not sure how much it is a theory or implemented in the show. The reason for Exocrists to have the mask and have the right eye cancelled out with an X, is that while the left eye is the intellectual one, the right eye is connected to affection. In the Bible there is a part that talks about gauging out the right eye if it causes "stumbling in one's duties". So they cancel out the right eye and that is why can they kill remorselessly. Vaggie however did not have the mask on at all, when she was chasing the Cannibal kid. I wonder if she took it off while having remorse already, not wearing her mask at home and thinking about what she was doing, or all that happened to her was literally only because she have lost/decided not to wear her mask.

  • @icemagiciangh3268
    @icemagiciangh3268 Před 4 měsíci +131

    Can we take a moment to appreciate the “Stick it to the man” reference Alex Brightman got to make- a nod to his character from School of Rock

  • @icemagiciangh3268
    @icemagiciangh3268 Před 4 měsíci +173

    The orb showed an image of Angel beaten up, bleeding, trying to cover himself, and Lute STILL had the audacity to call him terrible things. That moment hurt

    • @JodasPinkt
      @JodasPinkt Před 4 měsíci +18

      God, that's every day where I live ... adjacent to a homeless encampment. People get so cold towards the people there, especially when they see a problem that seems unfixable and feeling empathy would overwhelm them (not that Lute is any danger of feeling empathy).

    • @JohnZ117
      @JohnZ117 Před měsícem

      That and the blatant homophobia is why I started seeing her as worse than Adam then.

    • @cherryblossombvllet
      @cherryblossombvllet Před měsícem

      @@JohnZ117 honestly I have no idea if she’s homophobic or doesn’t approve of the relationship between an angel and a demon. Adam likely interpreted it as in reference to a queer relationship, but I’m not sure if it’s clear which Lute was actually talking about

    • @JohnZ117
      @JohnZ117 Před měsícem

      @@cherryblossombvllet The sung rant about Angel Dust is what I was referring to.

    • @cecilia8515
      @cecilia8515 Před měsícem

      @@cherryblossombvlletI think Lute was being homophobic, she said their love was vile. That is definitely homophobia.

  • @TheDahaka1
    @TheDahaka1 Před 4 měsíci +271

    "DO WHAT WAS REQUIRED"
    Might be my favorite moment in the whole series. The visuals are amazing, the voice is perfect, with that hint of instability and pleading for Emily's understanding, and it perfectly summarizes the whole point of the show: if you base your actions on fear, fanaticism and conviction about rules you can't even know about, you will be a villain, even if your intentions are "good".

    • @rickypedia999
      @rickypedia999 Před 4 měsíci +15

      Between that and her line about there being something Emily doesn't know about... I'm actually wondering if there is more reason for her to let the extermination happen than just general fear mongering

    • @TheDahaka1
      @TheDahaka1 Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@rickypedia999 I think she got really scared about what Lucifer did just after creation, and about Lilith rallying up the sinners. She knows what can go wrong, but she chose the most cruel method, while refusing to listen to any different opinion.
      I can't wait to see how she'll react in season 2 after the revelation in the finale (no spoiler here), but I'm afraid she'll try everything to keep it a secret.

    • @hkokoo
      @hkokoo Před 4 měsíci +15

      Same we barely saw Sera but I already LOVE her character. She's definitely lawful evil but I genuinely think she cares about Emily and is acting out of fear, and also willingly staying ignorant about the worst parts of it. Also the VA's voice is heavenly (no pun intended)

    • @TheDahaka1
      @TheDahaka1 Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@hkokoo She's the halfway point between the evil angels and the good ones, her character is soooooo important. They did a wonderful job with her 💞

    • @JoaoPedro-eq3hj
      @JoaoPedro-eq3hj Před 4 měsíci +8

      Sera is so overhated. She is by far one of the most interesting characters.

  • @YEEOWCH-lj2bs
    @YEEOWCH-lj2bs Před 4 měsíci +65

    Imagine nifty was a murderer, and she got caught because she didn’t clean up the evidence well enough and that’s why she loves cleaning😂

  • @obsi6563
    @obsi6563 Před 4 měsíci +118

    I just understand that Niffty want to taste Valentino because he's a moth and she clean (and sometimes eat) the hotel insects

  • @FlybyStardancer
    @FlybyStardancer Před 4 měsíci +95

    Poor Cherri and Pentious. 😂 I mean, Cherri didn’t turn him down at all, he just panicked and stabbed himself in the foot every time. And the first time it looked like she was totally flirting an into it, and him offering it to everyone was what disappointed her. 😂😂😂

  • @js66613
    @js66613 Před 4 měsíci +234

    "Okay, but hear me out, I can fix her. Just hand me a screw driver-"

    • @alansmithee419
      @alansmithee419 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Wha- what are you gonna do with it?

    • @morphingninja
      @morphingninja Před 4 měsíci +9

      Not much better, but you mean the drink right?

    • @gamerbear84
      @gamerbear84 Před 4 měsíci +10

      "Wait, I don't need a driver to s-.... never mind."

    • @gamerbear84
      @gamerbear84 Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@alansmithee419 Bonk her on the head with the handle and go "No, that's a bad girl", I'm sure. lol

  • @ultima1594
    @ultima1594 Před 4 měsíci +570

    I have a theory that Emily was Lucifer’s replacement, which is why she is so similar to Charlie, since Charlie takes after her dad.
    Also love how Adam’s list is exactly what got him kicked out of Eden in the bible.

    • @rickypedia999
      @rickypedia999 Před 4 měsíci +39

      I've got my own theory about Emily... but it's connected to a spoiler from the season finale

    • @kuhmuh2357
      @kuhmuh2357 Před 4 měsíci +29

      @@rickypedia999 Can you talk about your theory?
      Maybe put a Spoiler warning at the beginning and add a couple of line breaks so that people who haven't seen the finale can skip it.

    • @ltheoddboy
      @ltheoddboy Před 4 měsíci +11

      this is exactly my theory as well. i just never knew how to word it

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@kuhmuh2357 Emily is clearly the Raziel. The big theory is that Eve is the big villain of the show.

    • @kuhmuh2357
      @kuhmuh2357 Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@TheRezro I've heard about Eve being the root of evil in the show or something like that but who's Raziel?
      I haven't looked up that much lore outside of what's presented in the show.

  • @downbeatdialga1341
    @downbeatdialga1341 Před 4 měsíci +132

    30:59 I’ve been saying that for the last month! It’s good that Angel/Anthony is looking out for her, but we shouldn’t forget that Alastor enlisted Nifty’s service personally. If Alastor saw potential in her to keep her around just as he did with Husk, it’s stands to reason that she’s pretty powerful too, perhaps even a former Overlord as well. Also, her thing is an obsession with killing bugs, so that’s probably also why she ripped Valentino’s coat, because he’s a moth demon. She wanted “a taste” of getting to kill him too.

    • @CryptidCritter
      @CryptidCritter Před 4 měsíci +11

      She is most definitely an Overlord as well, as we can see in the pilot a dhafowy figure amongst the overlords that look a lot like Niffty and Husk. The fact we got Husk confirmed as an Overlord in the series makes me think that Niffty is 100% an Overlord too; as the shadow that looked like Niffty looks significantly like her, more so than Husk's shadow did.

    • @claritale_
      @claritale_ Před 4 měsíci +7

      Just wanted to correct something, that wasn't Valentino's coat, that's his fur, it's part of his body.

  • @Gaterman
    @Gaterman Před 4 měsíci +101

    Just a note Sera and Emily are Seraphim just like Lucifer however Sera is one of the elders, also Emily may be Lucifer's replacement considering she is so joyous a lot like Lucifer and Charlie.
    Adam and likely the Exorcists like Lute (Lieutenant, really creative there Adam...) and Vaggie were humans now angels called "Winners" but made into soldiers and referenced in Adam's first song "are they Winners or are they Sinners"

    • @Vael221
      @Vael221 Před 4 měsíci +16

      Are Vaggie and Lute actually former humans though? Considering she doesn't seem to dispute the whole "I named you" part (just the pronunciation); considering there are hellborn beings it seems safe to assume there are heavenborn beings too which is what I would guess the exorcists are.

    • @Gaterman
      @Gaterman Před 4 měsíci +22

      @@Vael221There are several reasons why the Exorcists are likely human angels like the Winners.
      First, Vaggie still has her back story of about being a human which includes coming from a South American country (forgot which one) and she still speaks Spanish but the other Exorcists don't which wouldn't make sense if she was only from heaven.
      Second, Adam calling her "Vaggie" is just like him shortening lieutenant to "Lute" and so she may have a real name, additionally Sinners often don't keep their original name like we saw with AngelDust and the same may be true for Winners and Adam may name/nickname the Exorcists.
      Third, the Exorcists have been labeled as Adam's descendants which wouldn't make sense if they where heaven born like Sera, Emily, and Lucifer but were once human (I would need to find the stream where this comes from though so I count this as secondary info).

    • @JoaoPedro-eq3hj
      @JoaoPedro-eq3hj Před 4 měsíci +10

      It makes sm sense if the exorcists angels were humans abused and tortured in life and now get the 'privelege' to slaughter the monsters that caused them misery

    • @asafin100
      @asafin100 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@Gatermanthe only loophole of Vaggie being a winner is that she didn’t turn into a demon once she was banished into Heaven?
      Lucifer is still an Angel after being banished, but it’s of course because she is a Hellborn demon. Lilith was immediately transformed into a demon when she was banished into Hell while Lucifer didn’t change at all.
      Pentious became an Angel immediately by being admitted into Heaven. Shouldn’t Vaggie have been turned into a demon?

    • @DizRupTnz
      @DizRupTnz Před 4 měsíci

      @@asafin100 She didn't die and get reborn like Sir Pent, she was just mutilated and cast down.
      Having said that Lucifer was also cast down and has since developed a demon form, but he still has his angel form. It's possible we will see a demon form Vaggie in a future season.

  • @musicfreakshow5190
    @musicfreakshow5190 Před 4 měsíci +79

    During the "Everyone Is hot" line, there's a female spider there. That's Molly (I believe) Angel Dust's Sister

  • @Amnesiac122
    @Amnesiac122 Před 4 měsíci +215

    Hah, I love how you're so sceptical of heaven, and yet taking Alastor at near face value, especially during his song with Lucifer

    • @theknightwithabadpictotall7639
      @theknightwithabadpictotall7639 Před 4 měsíci +64

      A smile is truly the greatest weapon

    • @ltheoddboy
      @ltheoddboy Před 4 měsíci +64

      its funny how alastor's manipulation works completely on the cast AND in real life among fans

    • @robertolanzone
      @robertolanzone Před 4 měsíci +23

      Hear me out. This show's main theme is someone who may seem horrible could actually be good if you give them a chance. Didn't we all believe Lucifer was gonna be an a-hole? How about Rosie, I bet I wasn't the only one expecting her to be some creepy psychopathic cannibal crazed monster. This show has proven, time and time again, these hellish demon are more humane than we suspect and Charlie is right to say there is good in all of them.
      So... I think believing Alastor is bullshitting and wanting to only manipulate Charlie is face value. Everyone thinks that, hell, Charlie pretty much states something like that. Maybe he thinks that too... I don't buy it.
      I bet either he's gonna turn out to be genuine or he's gonna warm up to it. So yeah, I believe it's more naive to think Alastor is just a heartless bastard, like Mimzy thought, rather than actually believe in him, and that may very well be the twist about his character!

    • @ltheoddboy
      @ltheoddboy Před 4 měsíci +35

      @@robertolanzone well yeah obviously alastor will likely genuinely enjoy the hotel at one point. during the first half of the finale, he even talks about how he could get used to it with niffty. but the thing with alastor is now, especially after his solo in the show must go on, he is clearly going back to his roots. aka, he will become more manipulative and self serving again. he is not a good person, but he isn't heartless. but he also isnt harmless. i think he'll probably be the last one to be redeemed tbh, everyone else in the hotel is already willing to die for it, and alastor was too, until he took the hit from adam and retreated.
      hell during the song when he says "alastor, altruist, died for his friends", he looked genuinely terrified because he realized thats really what happened. it was probably a wake up call - he was getting soft. and keep in mind he was one of the most feared demons in hell before he went missing for 7 years. clearly he wants to keep that reputation as well, like the whole fight scene with alastor destroying all of mimzy's enemies. he is a very ego driven person, but i think inevitably he WILL get better, but he'll likely get worse first before he is willing to make a change

    • @user-cb3lg4jp7q
      @user-cb3lg4jp7q Před 4 měsíci +10

      ​@@robertolanzone lmao bro is delusional.
      Alastor is horrible person - a serial murderer, cannibal, torturer both in life and in hell. He owns thousands of souls, threatened to kill Husk for a word of disrespect, and forced Charlie into deal. Also, he clearly enjoys bringing pain to others.
      Abd btw Rosie was nice because it were Alastor and Charlie she was talking too. She is still an overlord and still eats people.

  • @roguefenixC55
    @roguefenixC55 Před 4 měsíci +85

    "I see the good in Lute deep down"
    Yeah, that won't last lmao

    • @TheRealGerardWay
      @TheRealGerardWay Před 4 měsíci +4

      I still think Lute is good deep down after finishing the series I love Lute. She genuinely cared for Adam and his death was so heartbreaking

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 Před 3 měsíci +1

      We might get lute to see the light in the end

  • @cwengel22
    @cwengel22 Před 4 měsíci +18

    Sera: "We are gathered here today..."
    Kitty shows up.
    Proof that cats are celestial beings

  • @colt1903
    @colt1903 Před 4 měsíci +56

    "To think someone as worthless as you landed Lilith's little hottie. **Deep Breath** _Grats on that, I guess."_
    I love how you can HEAR the salt in his voice.

  • @flywoodpaperplanes
    @flywoodpaperplanes Před 4 měsíci +43

    I saw this in a post somewhere but I love how Adam, Sera and Emily represent different types of religious folks. Adam represents those who use religion as a defence for their prejudice, Sera represents the traditionalists and Emily represents the younger generation who are more open minded to change but still have the fundamental beliefs

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah, and Lute is the fanatic extremist who has a black and white interpretation and will kill for it.

  • @levydeat
    @levydeat Před 4 měsíci +24

    I just love love love “You didn’t know”. It’s like the show in a nutshell, the thesis statement, the crux, the cornerstone. It encapsulates so much; from Charlie’s building frustrations and righteous anger, showing secrets come out about the exterminations and Vaggie’s identity, seeing Heaven’s view on things.
    I love seeing Angel Dust defended by Charlie and Emily, and him being proof that sinners can become redeemed
    I get chills from Emily’s first lines, and then Charlie getting frustrated and calling out Sera. And you can see that sera isn’t pure evil, she does seem to care but thinks she has to do these things. And then you hate Adam and Lute but their bit goes so hard

    • @JohnZ117
      @JohnZ117 Před měsícem

      "And you can see that sera isn’t pure evil, she does seem to care but thinks she has to do these things."
      Look up "Banality of Evil."

  • @RiskoPlexus
    @RiskoPlexus Před 4 měsíci +47

    It’s so refreshing to see a reactor who had no idea that Vaggie was an angel. It had been theorized for a while (much of it due to a leak) so many fans pretty much knew. Watching the lead up from you interpreting Vaggie’s discomfort towards heaven and actually believing Adam and Lute were talking about Charlie until the shoe dropped was entertaining to see.
    Also, when you first thought Vaggie MOVED to Hell, I just went: 😬 “not exactly . . .”

  • @yuriatsugi3696
    @yuriatsugi3696 Před 4 měsíci +25

    *wheeze* the "dammit she's hot" at lute has me dead😂😂😂 that is me fr when i first saw her real face bwahaha i love your personality so much istg

  • @ukihakasmikaze8778
    @ukihakasmikaze8778 Před 4 měsíci +24

    Of course St. Peter sounds like a youth pastor lmao.
    “Ya know jesus was also into skating, he’d think the Matrix was rad too!”

  • @nicksmyth4050
    @nicksmyth4050 Před 4 měsíci +24

    Ok I think Lute might be one of my favorite characters. Not only is she a fascinating villain with interesting motivations, she might just have the best singing voice in the show lol. Jessica Vosk nailed it

    • @vadaaaa-
      @vadaaaa- Před 4 měsíci +4

      LITERALLY SAME! She’s one of those characters that I love to hate

  • @caseyp5861
    @caseyp5861 Před 4 měsíci +65

    I think You Didn't Know is such a good musical number and sticks out as probably one of my favorite songs in the season. Which the reprise of Hell is Forever is just the sugar on the cream.

  • @moonbloom2262
    @moonbloom2262 Před 4 měsíci +72

    20:17 The fact that adam actually sounded a bit unsure about being in heaven and Sera doesn't even give a comforting answer, she just waves it off-

  • @callmefat
    @callmefat Před 4 měsíci +97

    If hell is forever then heaven must be a lie!! 🔥

    • @Stardust_0fficial
      @Stardust_0fficial Před 4 měsíci +25

      If angels can do whatever and remain in the sky?

    • @cartoonishclaude
      @cartoonishclaude Před 4 měsíci +23

      The rules are shades of gray when you don't do as you say

    • @sketchyman5485
      @sketchyman5485 Před 4 měsíci

      When you make the wretched suffer just to kill them again !

    • @SuperMandibleclaw
      @SuperMandibleclaw Před 4 měsíci

      When you make the wretched suffer just to kill them again!

    • @caseyp5861
      @caseyp5861 Před 4 měsíci

      If you send them down to suffer just to kill them again.

  • @Jermvil
    @Jermvil Před 4 měsíci +9

    Fun Fact: the 3rd "requirement" on Adams list is a reference to "Stick it to the man" in school of rock. It's sung by Alex Brightman the same person who voices Adam and Sir. Pentious, that's why its there.

  • @The8BitNerd
    @The8BitNerd Před 4 měsíci +8

    23:27 I love how they react to her swearing, when Adam does much worse like 99% of the time.

  • @damy2433
    @damy2433 Před 4 měsíci +40

    2:39 If this is still cannon; If you get killed in hell then you just respawn, but if you get killed by an angelic weapon, you are permenently dead and remain as one of the many eyes that are on buildings in hell

  • @Stardust_0fficial
    @Stardust_0fficial Před 4 měsíci +60

    This was one of my favorite episodes! ‘You didn’t know’ was my fav song (other than Recpectless)

  • @neopagn2004
    @neopagn2004 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Don't forget Val is a moth, so a bug, and we all know what Niffty does to bugs.

    • @kaylasilverstein4137
      @kaylasilverstein4137 Před 3 měsíci +4

      and more importantly, SPIDERS EAT MOTHS
      They are going to pull a Bug’s Life on us:):)
      (the grasshoppers bully the ants but then the ants defeat the grasshoppers just like how IRL ants eat grasshoppers)

  • @JoeThomas-lu6fy
    @JoeThomas-lu6fy Před 4 měsíci +10

    Sera's obviously biased, but she said at the beginning that the trial was to determine whether sinners could be redeemed "into the heavenly realm". Since they don't know the rules for getting into heaven, and Angel Dust didn't just materialise, she's technically correct there's no evidence it works.

  • @moonblaze2713
    @moonblaze2713 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Just to clarify, because it was in the show but only in one line, at the end you were wondering about how souls get into heaven? Sera says during the hearing "We know when a soul arrives."
    Basically, when it comws to human souls the angels arent choosing who gets in and whos kept out. They kicked out Lucifer, Charlie's out by association, and you saw what happened with Vaggie in this episode. But for human souls, ot appears to juat be a fact of the universe like gravity. The virtuous arrive in heaven upon death, just as sinners arrive in hell. It's immutable fact. But turns out not even the angels know what the actual criteria is.

  • @marianamora4203
    @marianamora4203 Před 4 měsíci +18

    I'm glad I'm not the only laughing my ass off at Sir Pentious negative rizz. When he said "because I'm having sex with everybody!" And the music ramps up I died 😂
    I was so excited to see your reaction and I'm so glad you had so much fun as well as so much to say to every little part ❤

  • @RoxasOnSummerVacation
    @RoxasOnSummerVacation Před 4 měsíci +11

    It's interesting that Adam KNEW that Angel was in the adult film industry. I wonder if he's been spying on them throughout season 1.

  • @The_StripeDH
    @The_StripeDH Před 4 měsíci +7

    Sir Pentious, Husk, and Lucifer are the cutest characters in Hazbin hotel

  • @aeonofdisaster
    @aeonofdisaster Před 4 měsíci +77

    okay so fun fact the spider angel girl at 8:36 is Angel Dust's sister

    • @caseyp5861
      @caseyp5861 Před 4 měsíci +18

      Which her name is Molly (like the drug) except that is actually her name.

  • @LG-fu4ki
    @LG-fu4ki Před 4 měsíci +12

    I love love LOVE the character of Adam. He's like prime d-bag and so easy to dislike but at the same time so enjoyable to watch. The perfect antagonist and reminds me of most broadway villians.

  • @ciaranpatrick6859
    @ciaranpatrick6859 Před 4 měsíci +16

    “You didn’t know” is probably my favorite song in the series, it’s just so good. Adam and lute’s part is good, Adam’s accidental reveal of the extermination to Emily’s part, Sera trying to convince Emily, and then the hell is forever reprise and the reveal that Vaggie was an Angel. It’s all so well done and the song itself is amazing. I also really like the characters of the seraphims, both in terms of design and how they act. Sera is in the wrong but I do believe that she was only trying to help her people. Overall probably my favorite episode. The B plot is nice too.

  • @luhanxavier4971
    @luhanxavier4971 Před 4 měsíci +27

    Angel is the best boy. I love him so much! Charlie and Emily's song was a BANGER. I love that Emily starts questioning. She's pure good.

  • @Lightice1
    @Lightice1 Před 4 měsíci +24

    0:58 - Unfortunately that probably refers to the Pride Ring of Hell. 😅
    6:28 - Interestingly, the Seraphim seem to have a bird-like appearance but transform to a more humanoid form for some reason when coming to meet Charlie.
    36:30 - And here's a cool detail, Emily's extra eyes open when she sees Sera for what she really is.

    • @DizRupTnz
      @DizRupTnz Před 4 měsíci +6

      Seraphim having bird like forms would explain Lucifer's duck symbology, and also parallels the owl forms of the Ars Goetia in Helluva Boss as they are upper hellborn royalty.

  • @soughtseer5099
    @soughtseer5099 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Your anger at realizing that Lute was hot got such a laugh out of me, lmao. Also, the build-up to the Sir Pentious joke of "Having sex with EVERYONE HERE" was absolutely perfectly executed by the show, one of my favorite moments.
    For a week, I was waking up with the courtroom song stuck in my head, mainly the reprise with Charlie and Emily. It's so freaking good. At 6:27, you can see Sera and Emily's default angel forms for a brief moment, and then they transform to be more humanlike, for Charlie's benefit, I guess.

  • @Medax27
    @Medax27 Před 4 měsíci +4

    of course Adam would be the guy who invented the "gangsta S" drawing that every single human does, regardless of their country of origin. Also I love how he fucked up first on drawing it and scribbled over it LMAOOO

  • @shelbybayer200
    @shelbybayer200 Před 4 měsíci +73

    Adam and Lute are the worst of Heaven's "Faction"
    Also, there was a good reason why Vaggie didn't want to go. And you saw it, She was scared of having Adam and Lute tell Charlie her Origins Lute's also the reason why Vaggie is stuck in Hell
    Sera knew but Emily didn't know

    • @willblack8575
      @willblack8575 Před 4 měsíci

      are the worst? Why exactly?

    • @samulthewise7694
      @samulthewise7694 Před 4 měsíci

      Not Sera is the worst

    • @CharginChuck
      @CharginChuck Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@willblack8575 And there it is, like clockwork.

    • @shelbybayer200
      @shelbybayer200 Před 4 měsíci

      @@willblack8575
      Adam is a major Dauchebag (Like a certain DRA Guy)
      Lute tore off Vaggie's wings and Ripped her eye out

    • @eyes1
      @eyes1 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@samulthewise7694how so???

  • @SpitfireFortyFour
    @SpitfireFortyFour Před 4 měsíci +7

    There are two types of "good villain" in my eyes. The one you love to hate, and the one you hate to love. And they absolutely nailed both.
    I fucking love Adam. He's comedically evil and goofy he steals every scene he's in.
    And I fucking hate Val. He's so evil and warped you want him dead seconds after seeing he's on screen.
    EDIT: Thinking about it there's a third type of villain I like too. But lets leave that one for the finale :)

    • @josiea.3855
      @josiea.3855 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I feel the exact same way!!

  • @OtomostheCrazy
    @OtomostheCrazy Před 4 měsíci +37

    38:40 I mean, technically Sera was right. Despite Angel Dust’s improvement and progress on redemption, he didn’t ascend to Heaven. The whole point of the meeting was to see if there was a way to bring sinners into Heaven, and since nothing happened, the only thing to say is that there’s no evidence

    • @catalina2611
      @catalina2611 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I thought that the ones in Heaven make the rules and that's why Charlie tried to convince them

    • @bookwermofthefandoms
      @bookwermofthefandoms Před 3 měsíci

      ​@catalina2611they don't make the rules but Charlie thought they did

  • @shreddedninja
    @shreddedninja Před 4 měsíci +5

    My theory for Nifty is she was a 50's housewife that got abused a lot by her husband whenever anything was even slightly dirty until she killed him.

  • @detectivepancakes3095
    @detectivepancakes3095 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Personal head cannon, Nifty was a housewife in the 1950's to a very abusive husband, she would be beaten if there was a single uncleaned spot, thats why she is so obsessed with cleaning and bad boys in hell, (I also believe she probably murdered her husband and was put into an asylum) None of this is in any way mentioned in the cannon, so this is just the theory I came up with

  • @Angelina_foxy
    @Angelina_foxy Před 4 měsíci +9

    Something i have noticed is that
    When vaggie was abount to kill the little demon kid her shadow has horns (she was not wearing the mask)
    And when Adam revealed that she is a Angel her shadow had a halo
    Wich might be like showing that Vaggie is now a true angel after changing her ways

  • @tatsumisakamai5372
    @tatsumisakamai5372 Před 4 měsíci +11

    8:17, 8:35, 10:01 - I was shocked and happy to see Molly make her debut. It's so sweet and I hope her and Anthony (AKA Angel Dust) meet up someday. It'll be so sweet for siblings to meet. And then Angel will tell about his mobster family .

    • @ukihakasmikaze8778
      @ukihakasmikaze8778 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Oh, I see the spider-looking angel that has the same color scheme as angel dust.

  • @maxxsbrother2
    @maxxsbrother2 Před 4 měsíci +11

    "Damn it, SHE'S HOT!"
    Mood.

  • @numberonesoudalover
    @numberonesoudalover Před 4 měsíci +30

    I've been so excited for this reaction! These future episodes are gonna be so epic so I can't wait! Love your content Weeby, keep it up!

  • @vesselthanatos3033
    @vesselthanatos3033 Před 4 měsíci +6

    my theory is that Adam was the first man in heaven, so he is the literal bar they use to judge who can come in and out of heaven. so while he's a douche and no one likes him, he never commited any crimes, so anyone who was bare minimum better than Adam was let into heaven while the rest go to hell

  • @kenjutsukata1o1
    @kenjutsukata1o1 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I love the detail that Angel doesn't put on his facade upon coming back from his rough day at work. Normally he'd act like everything was no big deal or hide the fact it was rough entirely (like he did with Husk in episode 4), but instead he's fully honest about having a cruddy day and lets himself act accordingly. Plus the fact that texting Cherri 'depressing shit' all day caused her to show up to take him for a night out probably meant that he didn't normally allow himself to vent to friends either. So Angel made huge strides in opening up to people, I'd say!
    Also, I honestly do get the impression that Heaven is a pretty sweet place to spend your afterlife... provided you're not of a certain temperament. I'm sure there are plenty of rules (I'm sure there's plenty of stuff that would get you in trouble, especially 'sins'), but it sounds overall like a better deal than Hell (even without the exterminations). And we know from Vivian that being gay is okay in Heaven, and we know from Adam that un-wed banging happens there too, so it doesn't sound like it's Christian-levels of rules (at which point I'd say just send me to Hell 😛)
    Also, it took me WAY too many rewatches to realize that Adam was talking about Vaggie at 10:30 mark. Obviously the show was setting it up to look like he's talking about Charlie since we don't know the... thing... yet, but upon rewatches it should have been obvious to me considering his reaction didn't make a lot of sense for his current dynamic with Charlie.
    And as for Sera... I'd say she's worse than Adam purely because she acts all high and mighty about it while Adam is openly a bag of dicks and wears his douchebag badge on his chest with pride. I'd much rather contend with an open asshole than someone who puts on a facade of goodness (don't read that out of context, lol). Also, gotta be real... Adam's hilarious. A monster and a jackass, but I can't help but laugh at his nonsense. Especially the faces he makes.

  • @aranthur
    @aranthur Před 4 měsíci +13

    I always say my favorite thing about this episode is the parallel between Sera, Lucifer, and Carmilla. None of them like the exterminations (even in the storybook intro to episode 1 you can see Adam grinning as he begins the attack but Sera looks genuinely sad), and they all had a chance to stop or at least attempt to stop them... But they all chose not to and to let all those other sinners die because they believed it was the best way to protect their daughters/daughter figures

  • @PupGamer93
    @PupGamer93 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I get chills every time I hear Charlie and Emily sing "If Hell is forever, then Heaven must be a lie!"

  • @Alchera201
    @Alchera201 Před 4 měsíci +7

    I'm betting on Niffty against Valentino. She can tear him several new ones, I believe in her.

  • @FalcloneDustforlife
    @FalcloneDustforlife Před 4 měsíci +7

    Lute is an asshole, but adam is just so likeable so often

  • @HaughtyToast
    @HaughtyToast Před 4 měsíci +6

    It is so fortunate that they got such good voice cast for Adam and Lute. It makes them so much more tolerable that the voices fit them well and they can deliver all their jerkass lines in such a fun way. Also when they sing together it is magnificent.

  • @Obsessed.Since_2010
    @Obsessed.Since_2010 Před 4 měsíci +4

    “Damn it shes hot” to lute is SO REAL AHAHAHAH

  • @kagato23
    @kagato23 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I mean, Pen might have negative Rizz, but it goes so far it wraps around again. He offered to bang the place and MOST OF THE PLACE WAS IMMEDIATELY DOWN.

  • @naolucillerandom5280
    @naolucillerandom5280 Před 4 měsíci +3

    The way Nifty says "I'm the mess? 🙁" is so sad 😭

  • @collecter343
    @collecter343 Před 4 měsíci +6

    One time you're happy Adam is talking is when he states how dictionary references are lame.

  • @lazydevstudios3776
    @lazydevstudios3776 Před 4 měsíci +3

    don’t you love when weepy cuts out the “he blew his shot like the (no no word) in his mouth“ 😂

  • @TheAgentPrime
    @TheAgentPrime Před 4 měsíci +6

    Heaven, the after life equivalent of seeing that amazing high class neighborhood you want to buy a house in then you meet the HOA counsel and learn their are more restrictions that a prizon ward.

  • @icemagiciangh3268
    @icemagiciangh3268 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I would love to see Angel in Heaven… mainly so he can reunite with his sister Molly. She’s the pink-dressed angel sitting on the floor when Saint Peter says “And everyone is hot!” and at the very end of the song.

  • @Gaterman
    @Gaterman Před 4 měsíci +23

    When a Sinner / Royal is killed by an angelic weapon or normal hellborn die by any means their essence spreads into the surrounding area creating the wall eyes well their soul and mind cease to exist.
    When a Sinner or Royal is killed not by angelic weapons they'll simply regenerate and if their body is completely destroyed they respawn however this is very painful.

    • @CharginChuck
      @CharginChuck Před 4 měsíci +5

      So it's actually far less evil for people in Hell to "kill" each other than it is for the angels to exterminate them.

    • @captainslender12
      @captainslender12 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@CharginChuck to my knowledge, rematerialisation is generally quite painful

    • @Gaterman
      @Gaterman Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@CharginChuckKinda, it still hurts when attacked or "killed" but without it being permanent Sinners don't care as much and that's why there's so much carnage shown in episode 1 as those people will come back however angelic steel *used by anyone* makes it permanent also injuries like with Vaggie's eye.
      Lower hellborn like Imps, Succubus, Hellhounds, Sharks, etc will perish to normal means even old age which is why they are a lot less prominent in the Pride ring as Sinners can easily take them out permanently.

  • @Riddler909
    @Riddler909 Před 4 měsíci +3

    You need to be good to enter heaven but adam as first man is exception and exterminators are just heavenborn

  • @salemkitty5786
    @salemkitty5786 Před 4 měsíci +4

    "Maybe Nifty will kill Valentino"
    👀

  • @saracafiero4643
    @saracafiero4643 Před 4 měsíci +4

    “Ugh I hate val I never want to see him again…unless it’s his death” too real

  • @jincocuanco
    @jincocuanco Před 4 měsíci +5

    I love the villains in Hazbin Hotel they're all so multi-dimensional and have beautiful designs. They're also well-written one can't help but love hating them. (I just love them though, I love me interesting villains.)

  • @ronswasonbutcuter4474
    @ronswasonbutcuter4474 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Weeby: "I think only Adam is bad I could probably fix Lute" ooooh. Honey noooo

  • @transmatized
    @transmatized Před 4 měsíci +3

    why would vaggie and charlie break up? yes, vaggie lied about her past but charlie is the most understanding and forgiving person ever and she loves vaggie more than anything.

  • @slingyman23
    @slingyman23 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I love that in episode 3, vaggie makes trust exercises that are full military style, and in episode 6 adam says she was one of the top exorcists.

  • @OtomostheCrazy
    @OtomostheCrazy Před 4 měsíci +7

    I like how Angel Dust’s sister is in “Welcome to Heaven”

  • @lunadepti
    @lunadepti Před 4 měsíci +3

    THE EMILY SLANDER IN THE FIRST BIT OF THIS VIDEO HOW DARE YOU😭😭😭

  • @TheRealGerardWay
    @TheRealGerardWay Před 4 měsíci +4

    Do NOT compare my man Adam to Val. Val fucking sucks and Adam is amazing.

  • @nelsonv1953
    @nelsonv1953 Před 4 měsíci +3

    13:36 I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one who didn’t see that twist coming.

  • @ericjohnson6120
    @ericjohnson6120 Před 4 měsíci +3

    We learned last episode that a soul can be damaged (not sure if anyone can do it or just Alastor), so theoretically, Val could double-dead Angel whenever he chooses. That's why Angel keeps going back. There's also a fan theory that Angel can't get into Heaven without getting his soul back.

  • @bakuhakudraws5603
    @bakuhakudraws5603 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Emily is the preciousest bean of all time, and literally nothing will convince me that she's dating both Charlie and Vaggie at the same time.
    If not gay polycule, then why gay polycule coded?

  • @lenaalt2387
    @lenaalt2387 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I don't think Heaven is a bad place after all like some were speculating. It's just very strict and collectivist (I hope I'm using this word right).

  • @burningfox4974
    @burningfox4974 Před 4 měsíci +3

    So the way death works in hell is that if injured by normal means, a sinner will eventually be restored to normal.
    However angelic weapons will permanently damage and kill demons. And it seems during purges angels just leave their weapons impailed in sinners. So some demons (like Carmilla Carmine) takes those weapons and smelts them down to make something else.
    It’s save to assume Husk has holy coated playing cards, and Cherry has holy shrapnel in her grenades, Angel having blessed tipped Tommy Guns ect.

  • @CxxtiexCourtlyn
    @CxxtiexCourtlyn Před 4 měsíci +2

    Lucifer Has an obsession for Ducks because he pictures himself as the ugly duckling and dreams on being a beautiful swan

  • @ostlandr
    @ostlandr Před 3 měsíci +3

    Interesting that some Christians who have watched this show have been inspired by it, and perhaps even been improved by it. Not bad for an adult cartoon set in hell about demons.

  • @AndresGarcia-cr9ug
    @AndresGarcia-cr9ug Před 4 měsíci +3

    I don't know but i really like Adam.

  • @Miss_Heed_Lover
    @Miss_Heed_Lover Před 4 měsíci +4

    I love Adam. What a good antagonist

  • @TheShadoreavr
    @TheShadoreavr Před 4 měsíci +1

    "I can fix her!" how every toxic relationship starts.😂😂

  • @skateboardingwaters7251
    @skateboardingwaters7251 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Vaggie literally has got that half dead rizz

  • @aelitamcgarden442
    @aelitamcgarden442 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I love how enthusiastic and passionate Webby is about almost everything !
    Love the reactions!!!

  • @julianajohn5871
    @julianajohn5871 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I just recently found your channel about three days ago and I’m already loving your content. Your vibe is so much fun!! When I saw this post I got so excited!! Keep being awesome!!

  • @Jamiee_Does_Stuff
    @Jamiee_Does_Stuff Před 4 měsíci +2

    What you said about not wanting to see Val unless he's dying. NO. I don't want to see him unless he is being tortured the way Angel was + Alastor being unleashed on him. Then he can die the slow painful death he deserves.