"I wanted him to keep trying (after I said no)"
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- A discussion into the meaning behind when women turn down a man's advances and expect him to still pursue her, with phrases like "I wanted him to fight for me!" (Ironically I decided to cut the clip where the exact phrase was used from this video but the sentiment is there even if it is worded differently in the opening videos).
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I'll pass on the prison sentence.
Women don't know what they want and they won't stop until they get it.
Well said sir....
They want to play games, and men aren't playing.
And you commit, giver her security, safety, children, a home - and the still play these games. Withholding at the drop of a hat for years because...... no darned good reason
I've been there. Although I've since learnt that no one can keep us in games if we refuse to play.
62 retired don't want kids. there no need for annoying woman in my life.
“Damn, I missed a chance to have him arrested for SA”
Women will say no mean no, except when they don't mean it. When is which? Even she doesn't always know.
This is why most men would rather spend time on their own, hanging out with their friends, or just spend time with their dogs, over being around a woman. My dogs don't play these games. They make it pretty clear that they enjoy going for walks and sitting on the couch with me scratching their bellies.
when a woman pulls this stunt in a marriage she has before hand been wearing that man down into a nub by complaining about anything. Now he only sees freedom when she delivers the ultimatum.
In those circumstances, why wait for her to issue an ultimatum?
"I don't like this and something needs to change" is the first shot across the bow that either party can say
@@busybecomingmyself you obviously haven't been married. Many women put on their best face before marriage.
@@stanlyqbrick1621 literally my most popular video with over 300k views is me talking about my dysfunctional marriage, but ok
@@busybecomingmyself ok
@@busybecomingmyselfhahaha
In the old pick up artist literature, this was known as “token resistance” where a woman says “no” even though she really means “yes” because she doesn’t want to be seen as a slut and she wants to see if the man is willing to fight for her. It should be interpreted as “not right now, try again later” instead of a hard “no”. Regardless, it’s best to avoid such silly games and it warms my heart to see that men aren’t tolerating it anymore.
I think it's playing a dangerous game to toy with the idea of LMR. No can mean not right now. And it's best to treat it as such, but not to immediately keep trying. There has to be a consequence for the no. Some girls, if they really want you, will set things up for you to have an easy yes the next time around.
Good one Chris
but refusing to take "NO" for an answer is the very essence of a RAP!ST.'
So if a woman says NO I am outa there
and this at the bare minimum i do out of respect for her own expressed preference.
if she wants to play games let her play them with her self.
if they will NOT say what they mean and mean what they say they show THEIR WORD IS WORTHLESS and their character base and untrustworthy
they cannot have it both ways
beyond repair
A real man loves himself so much that he doesn't need the love of anyone else.
You failed to speak about the duplicitous nature of this request. If a man does pursue her then he is obsessive, controlling, a stalker, she feels harassed etc etc and so on into the female dark psyche we go
I see the retention rates on videos. Less than half of people can concentrate for even 5 minutes. The video was long enough to get a message across.
Well said. You see a lot of this in movies and TV shows as well. The scripts that people have in their heads about what dating or relationships should look like are pretty screwed up. I think the sad part in all this is that their girlfriends who have a heathier emotional life will not speak truth to them.
Absolutely. Check out my video "I don't feel the spark" for more deconstruction of the Hollywood romance ideology
I think I am in the final stage of my relationship, manipulation & gaslighting, and hearing "no means no" paired with this in the video. I want to breakup but I am struggling on how to go about it the right way. Any advice? It would mean a lot.
PS: I am watching your videos for quite some time now, keep it coming!
1. Have you communicated in a way which works for both you and your partner? While I believe that breakups are often necessary I think it's important to do all you can for your own peace of mind before getting there. 2. There won't be an ideal time or place so find a time when your partner is able to sit down and talk and say simply that you don't want to be in the relationship anymore. Have your reasons ready. 3. In the case of marriage and common law marriage, make sure you seek the advice of a lawyer so you know what might be the legal and financial implications for you. 4. After the decision, it becomes about the logistics of moving apart, separating assets, etc.
It’s fairly simple. Invite her to see each other in person and tell her you are sick of her shit and it’s over.
She is not entitled to an explanation. But do think ahead on what you want to say.
I'd start with the flat announcement.
From there, decide on what you want to tell her. Not on what you think she wants to know.
Be sure to communicate in e.g. "nonviolent" style (look it up). As lite explanation, do not assume or project anything. Only talk about things you have firsthand knowledge of, and keep it factual. Speak from your point of view, your feelings.
Keep responsibility for how someone feels or acts with that person.
"When you have me drive to that specific place across town to get you the exact coffee you crave, and then throw it on the floor for being not hot enough, I feel hurt and abused."
This is a bit dangerous, if something happens to them and the lawyer get’s his/her hands on this…
Ladies, ladies, ladies, I thought no meant no. Is that not the case anymore? To a man, no does mean no, so off we go, gbye!
That is why guys have Playstation, XBOX, cell phones with a shit load of GAMES on it, we take things LITERALLY, .
They wanted leverage to use against the man at their convenience.
i get it, normally when girls say "no" they want the outcome they get when they say that, which usually is him to keep trying
If they're picking men with psychopathic tendencies, which a particular type of girl are into, sure.
If she wants something different from what she says, she wants a mind-reader, not a man. You on the other hand, don't need a liar or someone that can't communicate clearly. I.e. a healthy, functioning adult.
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Such behavior is а power struggle - she wants to dominates you and you to be a beggar. For simps it is OK, for real men - not at all.
There's someone for everyone...
Play stupid games win stupid prizes, jesus christ.....🙄
Both chicks have arm tats.......................red flag!!! No thanks!
There's a correlation with tattoos and impulsivity but I try not to be too black and white on these things. I've also met girls with no tattoos who were highly impulsive and not relationship material.
*Slow. golf. clap.*
Your jib, sir. I like the cut of it.
This happens a LOT. Most guys have the right idea. Accept the no and disengage. It is not worth it. She will try to lure you back with sex but dont do it. If she changed her mind before she can change it again.
The safest way to avoid an sa charge is to not have the sex.
Women like this are broken beyond repair and you want to let her go ruin some other mans life. Not yours.
I'm not sure that the video to the right applies in this context as it is just a basic r*pe fantasy/taken by force situation, we women have naturally in us towards whom we find attractive.
It's relevant because she said "I'm NOT going to sleep with you, ok?" while wanting him to try
Even in things like CNC, consent is important, and it is on her to own and communicate her desires, and not be dishonest to herself or anyone she is involved with.
A man would take HUGE legal and reputational risk to try to guess that a woman meant something other than no when she says no.
@@busybecomingmyself Of course everything you say in the video is completely true, especially about honesty and authenticity, relating to the manipulation/drama/BPD tactics. And I understand your points above, you touch on the more pragmatic aspects what to do here and now, which we need to prioritize.
My point was just to emphasize the fact that natural inherent behaviour cannot be changed with a man-made law, as in her body language will subconsciously show what she wants, there is really nothing to guess. Ergo- she is authentic in that. The contradictory words she uses, is just part of her persuasion game I guess. But the only real language is body language, like with all animals. It's the only guiding we can really go on as men and women, it's the safest bet. Because she can switch her words from Yes to No later on as well, if we go by words alone.
Men aren't built to interpret social subtext and body language in the way women are. It isn't men's fault that they believe women when women say no. It is safer for men and women if they take a woman at her word. Because the consequences for advising men not to, and the misunderstandings that would arise from that, are severe.
@@busybecomingmyself Probably is true that it is safer, yes, because of how people operate these days. I can understand how men are unsure of women because of what they write and mostly say is untrue and inauthentic, chronic virtue signalling. How are they not able to read body language though? We're the same in that regards of course, I mean- we're animals, that's all you really go on. How else would a man know to approach from afar if she hadn't given him the green light first? Because he read her body language of course. Social sub text is not part of this, so I get that, but body language is. But like you wrote, it is safer.
@@miragemirage3670typical female indifference to situations terrible for men
No means no.
No means, "Move on, you dusty loser."
No is your final answer.
Period. No exceptions.
If you say no, expect a self-respecting man to take it as a no.
I’m calling it B.S this is nothing but emotional m@strubation
Calling BS on what part exactly?
When a women says “he should know, I shouldn’t have to tell him what I want” I think they are talking about anticipating what her needs are. This is of course not true with all women especially the ones that would be deemed as unhealthy. But for the healthy women who make this statement I agree to a point. If you have already been in a relationship for a few months, and had the talks that address what each person is wanting out of the relationship then anticipating each other’s needs is kinda part of being in a relationship. For example when my wife knows that I’ve had an exhausting day at work, she will do extra little things to make the rest of the evening more comfortable for me, like get my sweatpants out for me, have a cold drink ready for me, and things like that. And I do the same for her in return, without either of us asking the other. As far as the “no” but try anyway part, I can see how while dating that would be completely stupid of the woman to think he’s going to keep trying after she made it clear by saying no. But as a married couple my wife makes it a playful game where I’ll end up chasing her around the house, but she makes it clear she ok with whatever I’m asking for by playfully saying no.😎
My girlfriend sometimes anticipates my needs. Not all the time. And I never feel annoyed about her not anticipating something I haven't said. That's just a waste of time.
I want him To keep trying after i said no....she says in this post...literally the last post i seen from a wahmen said wohmen dont play games....holy fuck, thats all they know how to do is play games....