How 99,665 Brits Just Saved the Metric System in the UK
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It's actually genuinely impressive to find a topic that 98.7% of Brits can agree on.
Point noted. However, beware of selection-bias. The group of ~100000 that answered were those that cared enough to answer. This was certainly not a representative group.
why would you want the opinion of people who dont care ? the people who want imperial are also people who care@@WackyAmoebatrons
@@WackyAmoebatrons Maybe, but normally this leads to the "Everything is fucked right now" people to be in the majority. Which obviously was not the case.
@@devforfun5618 I did not say that. I said that these 100000 are not representative enough to conclude what 98.7% of Brits think. I'm a scientist, a physicist even and I'd never used imperial units. But I also learned not to be deceived by statistics or people drawing simple conclusions from them. The 97.8 percent has a (metric) ton of selection bias around its neck. All you can conclude from it is: 97.8% of respondents responded as they did.
PS: yay metric.
@@devforfun5618Quite often, the people who respond to such surveys aren't representative of the majority. Therefore the results of a survey may not be representative either. Such bias is difficult to remove.
If a politician suggests a policy change or a law that has 98.7% opposition, that politician is either an idiot or just so disconnected that it alone disqualifies them from the job. No one with that kind of disconnect or incompetence is fit to represent people.
You have just described Jacob Rees Mogg
that's jacob rees smoghead in a nutshell
Why 99,665 and not 99 or 100?
Are you surprised that the guy with a top hat is disconnected?
And this guy JRM still tries to convince the public of the many benefits Brexit has given the British people...
As a German winemaker, I can tell you a 500 ml bottle of wine is essentially unheard of, the majority of wines come in 750 ml then probably the second largest would be 375, then 1 or 1.5L. A pint size wine bottle doesn't make sense if the winery wants to bottle and ship outside the UK where all the other markets try and find uniformity to avoid excess bottle waste, labelling size changes, machinery alterations to accommodate additional sizes, etc. *slow clap*
Not wine but I believe 500ml is allowed for vodka.
@@marikothecheetah9342500ml ("half a litre") is the usual size of a beer bottle. Ok, also 330ml ones ("a small one")…
@@TheEuronaut Thanks. I'm a terrible drinker. :D
I have a bottle of Tokaji that would beg to differ on that statement about half litre bottles.
@@eduardonunomarques Well I did say "essentially unheard of" which implies some examples do exist but it is by far not the norm. So I'm not sure you are differing at all. With winemaking being as old and globally widespread as it is it would be silly of me to say that no examples of a 500ml bottle exist.
Wine is generally sold in 75 centilitre (750ml) bottles. Allowing pint-sized bottles is actually opening the door to more shrinkflation.
This is incorrect wine is NOT sold in 700ml bottles.
@@SimonEllwood750ml might be more common in the UK than 700ml, but than it's even worse.
I normally see wine sold in 750ml bottles, although I remember seeing them in 700ml bottles back maybe a couple of decades ago. I still see some spirits and spirit-based drinks sold in 700ml bottles, however, like the Hennessy Cognac I bought recently.
Never seen a 700ml bottle of wine, 750 on the other hand is the norm, followed by 375, 1L and 1.5L
750ml. 70cl is a spirits bottle
568ml is 24% less than 750ml. Ideal for shrinkflation
Also it will cost more as no one makes pint wine bottles (so our vineyards would have to spend cash to change their bottling process to sell just to the UK)
Just sell it as the healthier option to lower your alcohol consumption! It’s a feature not a flaw!
Yeah yeah, but now you can sell vine in pint glasses in pubs 😂
Also,USA pint is not the same as ours,so not sure they will want our pint bottles of wine
@@stephenlee5929 They sell their wine in 750ml bottles, which are exactly the same size as the 75cl bottles sold everywhere else in the world.
More amusingly for this "America's our biggest trading partner" argument, is the american pint and british pint are completely different measurements. Luncacy.
Hilarious
Yup, an American pint is 95ml smaller than a UK pint. So about what you get in Wetherspoons...
This is exactly what I was going to comment. Even if the US was their largest trading partner, that removes 33% of the measurement types they would claim to have in common.
@@evan culture??? Chinese using an archaic system ¥•π°÷=×{§}}✓®€ which is stupid and can't represent their language as good as latin characters
I didn't recognize how stupid was the imperial system until I was stationed in Japan us navy and realized the Japanese torture their kids with having to learn THOUSANDS OF Characters to learn how to read and write their own dang language
@@evan fun fact: the US government uses metric as well.
American here. My dad is an engineer and deals purely with metric in his line of work. Together, we always complain about how the US should go full metric. I bet if there was some sort of ballot on it, we would be the first in line to vote yes.
Legally thr USA is a metric. Which is why the definition of the inch is 25.4mm
The pound is defined as 0.45359237 kilograms
But in practice, yes we use imperial
@@Tibbs_Farm Units everywhere in the world are defined in terms of SI units simply because there's no other practical way of doing it in a way that is accurate enough for modern scientific purposes. Even widely used non-metric units (like degrees Celsius) are defined in terms of metric units (the kelvin in this case) because there's basically no other reasonable way of defining them.
Imperial can handle the precision of scientific measurements: all decimal numbers can be expressed as fractions.
However, keep in mind that there is one _System Internationale_, and at least two systems called “imperial”: British Imperial and US Customary Units. The traveled may have noticed that US pints are smaller than UK pints. Canadian bars will also tend to improperly sell US pints despite legally permitting British Imperial.
It would be possible for each system to fundamentally define base units in their own systems, but fortunately, the international scientific community pretty much exclusively uses SI, so it is easiest to define other systems in this manner. Unless there are scientists exclusively working in a non-metric system, it becomes impractical to fundamentally define a system outside of SI.
Degrees Celsius are also part of SI, but it is the Kelvin scale that is considered the base unit, the reverse of like how the kilogram, despite being a thousand grams, is considered the base unit.
@@therealax6Well us customary used to have seperate artifact standards.
@@appa609 It's been a long time since then, though. The US is a founding member of the BIPM, after all.
The irony about the "pints of wine" thing is that there were already no restrictions on the size of a wine bottle. As long as the size was given in metric first, you could make it any size you like!
and that's actually a bad thing. There's always a lot of noise being made about "freedom of choice" and reducing "beuraucracy" etc. But a good rule of thumb is that more freedom for corporations is always bad for us.
To elaborate: I remember Germany having fairly strict laws around what packaging sizes certain goods could be sold in. When those were repealed, politicians made exactly the same noise around "freedom for the consumer" and reducing unnecessary government interference in the market etc. Producers then quickly went on to try and trick you with packaging sizes, beginning to sell smaller amounts in bigger boxes etc. to try and trick consumers.
You don't buy wine by the pint.
In the pub you buy it by the glass and in the shop you buy it by the bottle... Or the case if you are my wife. B-)
How much wine is in the bottle is not really relevant. It will all still get drunk by the end of the night!
Yes indeed, the same with every other 'freedom' the UK has won.
Also, most wines will just get a new label with the imperial measurements of 750ml on the same bottle.
I read that there are restrictions on volume of wine bottles in EU. 250,500 &750ml plus whatever the magnum is.
I'm 51, I was only taught metric at school and I'm entirely confused by imperial units... It's a crazy, archaic system.
55, ditto!
I'm 44, only taught metric at school, but I have always thought entirely in imperial. If someone tells me that they ran five kilometers, then my brain just tells me that it is about three miles, and also why on Earth would you run three miles?
I’m 61 was taught both. But no way I’d be happy at going back to metric. Just a stupid thing to do.
54 years old and I was taught both systems of measurements.
I was going to say the same, taught in metric at school, used imperial for cooking and such at home, I'm 58 and completely metric now
So European countries are going to start using special sized bottles for wine that they'll export to the UK? Yeah no, that won't happen. It'll still be 70cl bottles, not megapints
European countries use special sized bottles for spirits exported to the USA. 700ml spirit bottles for Europe 750ml ones for America.
Think the US was planning to finally allow European sized bottles in 2021.
Standard wine bottles are 750ml in the UK.
@@khaitomretro But almost all bottles in the United States are metric, for instance 750 mL or 1.75 L. Why would we need special bottles?
Sainsbury's have already said they won't be doing any of their own brand wines in pint bottles. They said that within hours of the announcement.
Wine was what I thought of when he mentioned L is equal to kg of water. Compare nutritional items is still going to require same to same because of density. The entire reason the US and UK have different sizes for pints and gallons is because wine and water have different densities but are the liquid mediums used for the original standards. Pour a kilogram of each, and you'll have more volume of wine.
Australian here. When I was in school, someone once asked one of our teachers about the imperial system. I'll never forget the response, which was basically "Australia doesn't use it and we shouldn't be using it, and it's stupid... so we're not teaching it to you".
Funny. When I visited Australia in 1994 I went to the top of a hill - I think it was the one in Townsville - where they had a display showing what could be seen in the distance, and how many miles distant it was. I got to talking to one of the locals and I made a comment about how I guess they should change it to kilometers now, and he told me, no, everyone still thinks in miles and the old measurements.
@@alanlight7740 Maybe there are some elderly people still clinging to it, but that's obviously wrong.
But you still had to learn it to tell the time. Right? All navigation and surveying is done in degrees, which is imperial. All wheels on cars and trucks are sold in inches....imperial again. The exception being bicycles... Also, you won't find a box of wine with 10 bottles in it.... unless someone has taken 2 out.... Metric is only useful in certainmathematical calculations like statistics. Otherwise is is impractical. That's why boxes always have 12 or 24 items in them...
@@digdougedyboxes with 12 are just custom. Nothing impractical about using 10 other than having to redesign the box size once.
Eggs used to be sold in dozens, now eggs are packaged in boxes of 10. At least here in europe.
Anything else can also be sold in 10s. 12 just feels natural to you because you are used to it. It is just as arbitrary as any other number.
@@digdougedyThere is no Imperial measure called "box". Wine (and other similar bottles) are sold 6 or 12 to a carton simply because the 2x3 or 3x4 arrangement makes more efficient use of the storage space.
Everything this government has actually acomplished wouldn't even be enough to fill a 68ml container
I'd argue even a Petri dish would be too big :D
Not only is the EU the largest trading partner (by over a factor or 5), but the US doesn't use the imperial system, it uses the "US Customary System", ie a US pint is only 473 mL.
It does for linear measurment --- Feet and Inches
@@brianriley5383 Don't forget hands and elbows and now you need to think long and hard if I made one or more of these up.
@@brianriley5383some of the units in the US customary system are the same, others aren’t. Like another difference would be the lack of a “Stone” unit (eg 14 pounds in Imperial).
@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece Hands are definitely units of height, elbows not so much.
@@brianriley5383 Even their inch is slightly different to Imperial.
I’m 59 in January and only learnt metric at school, even my 83-year-old mother uses metric!
Given we adopted metric as our official system of measurement in 1965 I doubt there is anyone alive who isn’t familiar with it.
I hope we eventually go fully metric, it’s ridiculous that we sell fuel in litres, but measure fuel consumption in MPG.
It wasn't taught in schools until much later. People born in the 1930s onwards didn't have contact with the metric system unless they did the sciences.
Your school was modern! Mine was so old fashioned we were still taught imperial after decimalisation as if they thought it was a fad that would just blow over. It was tiny convent school, mind you
@@auldfouter8661 Regardless of what people were taught at school the metric system has been used in the UK for almost six decades, my mother was taught imperial at school, she still understands metric because she’s lived with it since her twenties. What’s difficult about counting to ten?
Edit: I started school in 1969, it was definitely taught then, so it wasn’t “much later”, just a little bit later.
@@nicwebber5343 Not sure my school was modern, I don’t know anyone my age who was taught imperial, though I’m sure some schools did hold on to imperial until they had no option, no idea why they’d do that though, it wasn’t in the best interests of their pupils.
Agreed. The only question is whether it should be litres per 100 km or number of km per litre. I learnt the former and I am about the same age as yourself.
What is even crazier is that MPG in the UK is different to MPG in the US. There are 20 fluid ounces to a pint in the UK and only 16 in the US. So the US gallon is 80% of the size of the UK one.
As a Brit who's been to other EU countries, it'd make our life so much easier to go full metric, I'd happily move to this
Agreed, the USA and UK need to go fully metric
For me, retirement is on the horizon, and yet even I only learned metric at school. I've never used imperial, and always insist where possible that people use rational units with me. The fact that nobody in work any more will have been taught in imperial measurements does suggest we're well past the point where metric becomes standard.
All wheels, except bicycle wheels are imperial... Your watch is imperial. The calendar is imperial. If you are a surveyor or navigator you will use imperial. All boxes with cans or bottles are imperial... you won't find a box with 10 bottles, it simply does not work. Metric is useful alongside imperial, but, the universe is built in imperial units and as such, we should still be using base 12 instead of 10.
Ordering a beer in mainland Europe is just so disappointing though, because you don't get a pint!
@@jeremystanger1711 the 68ml isn't noticeable in reality, so I don't know what you mean.
I find it hilarious that British maps measure distances in miles but heights (of mountains, etc.) in metres! They've metricated the vertical dimension but not the horizontal dimensions.
Ordnance Survey gridlines are metric.
not quite, slopes are in fractions, not in %.
Maps show scales for both systems. Vehicle speeds are still officially measured in miles per hour, as are our speed limits. Therefore it makes sense to measure distance in miles. Changing those to metric would be extremely expensive, as there are millions of road signs and road markings that would need changing. It can't be done gradually, because there would be confusion, unless you have both systems on signs. The speed limits themselves would have to be completely re-thought because a direct conversion to metric provides weird numbers.
@@benholroyd5221Road signs for gradients are often measured in percentages, more so now than a few years ago.
@another3997 Maybe. But Australia did exactly this in 1970. And Sweden switched from driving on the left to driving on the right overnight. These things are possible with enough will.
Not to mention that even if the US were the UK's biggest trading partner, the US and the UK imperial systems are different for volume. Also, as a Canadian, I have to note that the US *is* our biggest trading partner and we are mostly all metric.....doesn't seem to hurt any one.
I'm pretty sure the Tories would be down for the UK to adopt the American Imperial system. And that they would shamelessly pass it off as a Brexit Benefit.
They changed many of the imperial values slightly and called it 'American standard' as both a political statement and an effort to 'create' their own system.
Mostly-ish. Lumber and construction still use feet and inches because of trade with the US (unlike Europe where everything is done in metric). There are other pockets of industry like this that are stuck talking American
@@mehallica666us customary was branched off before imperial was formalized. There were multiple gallons on both sides of the pond used depending on if it was wine, beer, etc that was being traded. It's just that each side picked a different one as their standard gallon when they codified it.
@@LiqdPTInterestingly in Finland we also buy timber unofficially in two-by-twos and two-by-fours, although the length is measured in metres 🤣 The actual measurements have been changed into nicer numbers though, so officially it's now 50mm × 100mm, but people still call it by the old name. Finland has been fully metric for ages like most of the Europe, I've no idea why that's even a thing. Similarly fabric is measured in feet.
Rees Mogg - a man out of time - flung from Victorian times into a dystopian future... Poor thing - please can we send him back.... 😂
Rees Mug 😋 is either a time traveler or a Russian spy.
I'm pretty sure he's 12 cats in a human suit, I'm mean what sort of surname is Mogg
Or just stop voting him in.
@@ThomasstevenSlater
You've just done those cats dirty there
@thomasstevenslater a bakers dozen of cats
I'm a British engineer. I've worked in various parts of the world including the US. For serious engineering and scientific work, Imperial and especially American units are truly painful. For some things, feet, inches, and pints may be more natural units for informal purposes, but restrict them to that. Certainly don't impose them on us.
Even American engineers work in metric when possible.
It's funny how the US literally is already metric under the hood. Production, engineering, development, research, all of what powers any kind of expansion or economical growth and in turn makes the country tick uses metric and only puts on an imperial facade so that an average Joe can understand it.
.... and there are no non-metric units for electrical quantities.
Absolutely this ⬆️! I’m 47, and cannot remember the imperial system being used. That being said I do use feet and inches when doing basic DIY, because it’s easier to visualise, but anything that requires accuracy and strict tolerances metric is far far superior.
@@neoscylaxthe visualise is a purely habitual thing.
I can mentally visualise 1 km, 100 m, 50 m, 10 m, 1 m, 50 cm, 10 cm,... 1 mm 0.1 mm with decent enough accuracy.
Moreover you can see an object with its main dimension and can tell in a few seconds their volume, weight, heat of combustion/evaporation/melting or heat capacity nomatter the scale, from J to GJ (if you know the physical properties of the material)
This whole Brexti saga feels like a never ending Monthy Python sketch. Very funny if you live in the EU.
I miss living in the EU.
Xenophobic boomers and other idiots have a lot to answer for.
Even funnier down here in Australia, I keep expecting Basil Faulty to be put in charge of the Business and Trade portfolio but we got one better they put Truss in charge of trade negotiations - simply a natural comedian! What a talent. We are still laughing.
@@BalefulBunyip Pork markets!
@@BalefulBunyip and then they made Truss prime minister.....
Not so funny if you live in the UK and have EU family
If that's what Brexit was all about, then they just verified that Brexit was for nothing meaningful, just pride.
and racism.... don't forget the racism
Pride, racism and a big profit ! ( & the Spanish inquisition )
Brexit was NOT for what the opponents claim... if having national sovereignty and self-determination don't mean anything then you would have voted for Remain... EU is ruled by unelected commissars like Ursula von Lederhosen and his politburo who are unmoveable. no matter how inept or corrupt they are. the rubber stamp parliament in Brussels is a joke even the Nazis wouldn't have bothered with. countries should determine for themselves what they want .. this is why its almost impossible to get trade deals with the EU . every individual country throws a spanner in the works because they can't stand seeing their neighbour getting better off.
Never forget that an awful lot of Tories and their donors made a killing out of it. And also avoided EU laws which would have made their use of offshore tax havens illegal.
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t yeah you are right, also they took advantage of Brexit to sell capitals of UK on oligarchs ans other individuals on deals that would otherwise be illegal under eu law.
Wine has never been sold in pints here! It has always been sold by the "Bottle" which used to vary a little but for at least thirty years has been 75cl ie. 0.75 litres. Since 99% of the wine we drink comes from countries that are 100% metric (Europe, Australia, New Zealand, South America, South Africa) its normal and standard.
AND the bottling plants that existing wineries use, and the bottles that you can get from suppliers, are all 75cl bottles. Name ONE (new or existing) winery that is going to increase their costs by bottling in a different size bottle with all the infrastructure cost and inconvenience that would entail.
I’m 62 and was only taught metric at school. So glad UK’s not going back in time to cater to a few octogenarians.
Meanwhile, I live in the US where comparing prices is impossible with all the quarts, gallons and ounces.
Most big stores stick that information right on the price label, giving a unit price for the different options to make it easier to compare.
I'm only 77yo. Does my opinion count? Metric only please? (I was taught physics in cgs - look it up!)
I always find these discussions and the apparent emotion around it amusing. I'm British and 43 years old (for context) and was brought up on both systems pretty much interchangeably. Myself and seemingly everybody I know are comfortable using both / either when it suits, and sometimes (often) mix systems in the same sentence :) I'm 6ft 4, weigh myself in stones and pounds, and drive in miles and Miles per hour. I measure for DIY in millimetres, and weigh ingredients for recipes in grams as it makes more sense to me that way and is easily scalable. I drink beer in pints and spirits in millilitres, and for some strange reason it doesn't seem to affect my enjoyment or ability to walk home in a straight line. I buy fruit and vegetables by eyeball not weight. My favourite striker scores goals in the 18 yard box and I used to run 10ks before my knee fell apart.
Tbf, the measuring system wouldn’t affect how well you can walk home in a straight line, only the quantity 😅😂
You've missed the point, 750ml has been the standard wine bottle size not 568ml, there's no benefit and it shows the absolute cynicism of this performative gesture politics government who have done NOTHING useful and wrecked the country.
How many pebbles are there to one stone?
Something I've never understood.
@@Mabinogion 17 and 5/16 American or 16 Imperial based on the 24,678 grain standard. At sea level.
Hey there, I love the fact you're straight up and have a very chill (very relaxed , very cool), and irreverent sense of humor! I love your ability to use what works at the time.
I was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan USA during the Motown era. I've traveled to London, Switzerland, Austria and lived in Germany for 5 years. I balance it all, even in car repairs and tools, telling the time and driving, cooking, etc. just going with the flow. I haven't run into too many other people outside of the states that are just relaxed about the differences in countries and systems or even language/english differences. Differences keep it interesting. And I have many incredible friends around the globe
Getting older is a gift. ☮️
I was one of those people who responded to that consultation, and I really gave them a piece of my mind. I saved a copy of my responses as I knew I'd want to read them again later, and I'm very glad I did. Here are some of them.
- Are there any specific areas of consumer transactions that should be a priority for allowing a choice in units of measurement, and why?
There is no reason for imperial measurements to be used in this day and age. Every other country on the planet, except the US and a couple of others, use metric.
- Are there any specific areas that you think should be excluded from a choice in units of measurement, and why?
The only reason to continue to use an outdated system of measurements is to pander to a sense of British exceptionalism. That the choice to use imperial measurements is a patriotic gesture, something to do with our national identity.
- If an item is sold in imperial measures, should there be a requirement for a metric equivalent alongside it?
An item should not be sold in imperial measures. We have lived with kilograms, metres and litres for decades now. For the last fifty years we have taught metric in school, bought groceries in metric, bought petrol in metric. People are used to metric now, there is no reason to switch back.
- If you had a choice, would you want to purchase items (i) in imperial units? (ii) in imperial units alongside a metric equivalent?
Not in imperial units. There is no reason to use imperial units except to pander to people who cling to a rose-tinted vision of a Britain that never really was.
- Are you more likely to shop from businesses that sell in imperial units?
No. If I had a choice I would boycott businesses and products that use imperial measurements.
I have no sense of how much a pound or ounce is, but I know exactly what to expect from a product marked 250g.
- Do you foresee any costs or benefits to you from businesses being permitted to sell: (i) solely in imperial units? (ii) in imperial units alongside a less prominent metric equivalent?
(i) Solely in imperial units:
I would boycott these businesses. It would mean additional effort on my part to identify these businesses and seek a metric alternative.
(ii) In imperial units alongside a less prominent metric equivalent?:
I have no problem with imperial units being used alongside metric for those older people who still haven’t got used to metric despite it being used for the last half a century. However they should both have equal prominence.
- Do you have experience of buying solely in imperial units?
No. We haven’t used imperial measurements for fifty years, so a 40 year old like myself will not have used them except for milk and beer.
- What potential impacts might there be on regulatory activity, including any costs or benefits?
There are no benefits. There are only the unnecessary and avoidable costs of having to replace or update measuring equipment across the country. This
will easily run into billions of pounds, for no benefit whatsoever.
Thank you for doing this and saving us from the lunacy of our Churchillian overlords.
It's absolutely hilarious that the government asked such plainly leading questions and still failed - by an overwhelming, dictator-fake-election-esque degree - to get the answers they wanted.
Well said. Out of interest, what did you say in relation to sticking with the current mess or fully converting to metric?
I was actually surprised by how low the percentage was for people wishing to complete the conversion. The only real reason I can think for opposing it now is cost and there are ways to mitigate that (like including it in necessary costs such as replacements that were needed anyway).
I'm younger than you and should have grown up in a fully metric country if they hadn't decided to give up halfway.
Excellent! I too was incensed by the skewed nature of the consultation and wrote the following response via email:
I have corrected the questions that need to be asked to make this a genuine survey and not a skewed representation. Amendments are in bold:
1c. If an item is sold in imperial measures, should there be a requirement for a metric equivalent alongside it?
This question requires the obverse question
3a. If you had a choice, would you want to purchase items (i) in imperial units? (ii) in imperial units alongside a metric equivalent?
3b. Are you more likely to shop from businesses that sell in imperial units,
3c. Do you foresee any costs or benefits to you from businesses being permitted to sell: (i) solely in imperial units? (ii) in imperial units alongside a less prominent metric equivalent?
This question:
3d. Do you have experience of buying solely in imperial units?
is utterly pointless.
4. What potential impacts might there be on regulatory activity, including any costs or benefits,
The consultation as it stands is a disingenuous farce with a presumption that imperial measures are to be introduced with no opportunity to express a counter view. But I've fixed it for you.
But it looks like more than enough of us responded in the affirmative for metric. NB I am 64 and was educated in both systems then went into biomedical research where only SI (metric) units are used.
I am a 65 year old New Zealander. I was educated only in the imperial system and my final year of school was 1975. New Zealand converted fully to metrics in the late 1970s. I had no problem adjusting to the new system.@@andrewthompson5745
I know a few people who claim to prefer the imperial system, but even they don't understand more than the basics. If you meet such a person try asking them how many yards there are in a rod, or how many pints there are in a bushel. I'm one of the very few old geezers who actually remember most of these units, and I'm damned if I'd ever want to use them!
22 yards in a chain and 10 chains in a rod. 8 rods are a mile. Am i right? because I picked those things from old books I read when I wasyoung, and not sure I remember correctly,
4 rods in a chain. 100 links in a chain. 10 chains in a furlong. 66 feet in a chain. 16 ounces in a pound. It is all so self explanatory. I wonder why the rest of the world went away from it...🤔
@zoranocokoljic8927, not quite correct .. 40 rods to a furlong, 8 furlongs to a mile.
a furlong was how far one ploughed before turning and resting your oxen, 4 rods wide was to turn the team in, and that made up 1 acre for a day's ploughing.
Many areas with English heritage, have shop fronts 1 rod wide, houses 1, 2, 3, or 4 rods wide, each street block was a furlong long.
I'd say that's a bit unfair. You can go looking for oddball units in any measurement system. A bit like saying that most metric users don't understand more than the basics because they can't instantly rattle off how many Angstroms are in a light year.
@@shannonmcbride2010 There is a reason some of these units have become odd-ball. They weren’t always. My section is 1 x 2.5 chains to make a quarter acre.
But, let’s stick with some home and garden units then.
3/16th + 3/8th + ¼ + 1/32nd + 10/64th = about an inch. I think.
12 inches in a foot,
3 footsies in a yard,
1760 yards in a mile.
437.5 grains to an ounce,
16 ounces to a pound,
14 pounds to a stone.
8 UK pints to a UK gallon.
The funny part about the wine is that in the US almost all wine bottles sold here are a metrically aligned 750ml
A lot of US industries are entirely metric internally, but just put miles / ounces / gallons on the label of the finished product. E.g. the car industry's supply chains are global and metric, and then the cars assembled for the US market have miles per hour on the dash.
The US is basically metric. Day to day life is still in good ole customary units because reasons but everything that requires precision gets done in metric. I learned this in 84 from engineers that were in the habit of translating from customary units (US 'imperial') to metric, do the numbers then back to customary units to save time and avoid mistakes. US Customary Units are also defined by their metric counterparts.
The fact they reached out to haunted pencil Jacob Rees Mogg for a positive comment is the funniest part. We're talking about the man who insists on double spacing after a full stop even though that only was a thing because cheap type writers didn't have consistent spacing 😂
I'm 35, only imperial measures taught at school were miles and even then we were still taught distances up to KM.
I do occasionally bake in ounces when using some of my mum's old books but few and far between as the maths is far easier in denominations of 10
I was either in your year or a year ahead, but I was taught about common imperial weights and measures, as well as pre-decimal money, because it was how our teacher got us to do mental arithmetic - by making it fun and so you could understand your grandparents.
Pretty much the only reason I know a chain is the length of a cricket pitch and an acre is roughly half a football pitch.
“Haunted pencil,” 😂
Also (6:45) the US uses "Customary" units, not the UK's "Imperial" units --- and they're different from the UK units even where they have the same name. For example US pint = 473ml but UK pint = 568ml (multiply by 8 for US gallon / UK gallon). US fluid ounces and UK fluid ounces are also different. Confusion is thus guaranteed if products are labeled in customary / imperial units with the same names. Metric units, on the other hand, are the same everywhere and simple to relate to each other (eg. one litre of water weighs one kilogram). Rees-Mogg is an idiot.
And a Catholic.
US Survey Inch: ~25,4000508 mm.
But then the Americans employed the cup and stick method of measurement.
Which is just what the original idea of the Imperial units were.
In baking it doesn't really matter what size of cup you use as long as you always use the same cup when measuring. It's about ratios.
Well Imperial was the same at the start.
@@retiredbore378 Yup.
But, still... It's a bloody good way to do it!
@@Kalamain my late grandmother was the last and only person I saw using measuring cups and spoons, nobody else I know (in France and Germany) does. They use weights. Ratios are ok, but not all recipes adhere to even that simple principle and w/o a proper reference try working with recipes that use cups, oz, floz, tbsp and mix it with "sticks", "packages" or "tins" in a country where the metric system is used and many goods are sold in very different units and packaging 😂 constantly doing the math and multiply or divide by some random number to get to the "next" unit.
My favourite in baking are ingredient lists that contain "150 *ml* sugar" (ml !) alongside actual fluids *and* grams for the flour...
The wineries are not going to sell wine in pints because of the extra bottling expense. There is no profit in it. -- Besides, I have this weird feeling that the people who want to go back to the imperial units do not drink wine.
They almost certainly don't drink British wine.
Aye, carling and snakebite more likely
Massive tooling costs to accommodate the alternate bottle size as well.
Most wineries are in the metric EU anyway
I'm a granny brought up on Imperial and I thoroughly enjoyed completing the survey and telling them in no uncertain terms exactly what I thought of their utterly ridiculous idea.
I'm 62, (in fact, I will be 63 next week) and was born and brought up in England using the metric system. When I had children, at 31 & 33 yrs of age, I gave their birth announcements in kg, unlike the younger women on the same ward. I consistently meet people younger than me that still use the imperial system! Also, I never heard about this 'consultation'; I suspect it was similar to the one the Welsh government had before deciding to change the speed limit in Wales from 30 to 20mph where they 'consulted with' a very small number of people in one city!!
I saw this consultation, it was so biased it was blatantly obvious that it was intended to be spun as a 'brexit win', it's just a nonsense.
As an American wine drinker, my biggest problem with this whole thing is that wine bottles are in ml in the US. 750ml a bottle. I literally checked to make sure I wasn't crazy. So they want to change one of the few things that no one in the whole world uses imperial for. 🤦🏻♀️
It's wild as it stands there was nothing to stop wine being sold in pints as long as the metric measurement was also given, but as you say no one is producing pint bottles for wine because...why would they?
Ah, that's our wonderful government for you .... logic never gets a look in.
This is the thing..
The EU requires the European wine be exported in 750ml bottles (or certain multiples thereof), and it requires that wine imported into the EU (eg from the US) be packaged in the same 750ml bottles.
The end result is that, even in an "imperial powerhouse" like the US, almost all imported wine comes in 750ml bottles, and almost all local producers (for whom having multiple bottle sizes is costly) choose to use the 750ml package so that they have the option of exporting their product if they choose to.
The Tories can say what they like. They can't force the EU to allow export of wine in special bottles just for the UK market. And they can't force the EU to accept imports of UK wine in non- standard sizes. As a result, an overwhelming proportion of the UK wine industry will continue to be metric.
@@p1mason Now you will know what brands of wine not to buy!
Except for beer, all alcohol in the USA is sold in metric units: 250, 500, 750 ml. 1L, 1.5L
We even sell large bottles of soda drinks in 1 or 2 L bottles. Smaller amounts are still sold using fluid ounces.
I'm 41 and the only imperial unit I still use is mph, and only because all the speed signs still use it. Why anyone would want to waste time on a dark age measuring system is beyond me
As a Canadian I measure distances in kilometres and volumes in liters, but still calculate my gas mileage in miles per gallon.🤣🤣
Also, I still find sixteenths eights, quarters and a halfs much more useful when woodworking than centimeters.
How big is your TV?
You would be unable to communicate with most pilots or sailors, then.
Promulgating an entrenched system is not strictly "wasting time" so much as avoiding the (potentially massive at scale) conversion cost incurred when switching wholesale to a completely different system.
For example, what makes people so allergic to "metric time" measurement? Wouldn't it be easier for everyone to just use something like 100 seconds per minute, 100 minutes per hour, and 10 hours per day? A metric second would only be about 15% shorter than a standard second....
I am from Argentina (metric system) but grown up in a farming town and was very common people to talk distances in "leguas", an old Spanish measure of distance (around 5km), the pipes diameter in inches or fraction, and wood in foot. My sister works in a lumber shop and they buy the wood by cubic feet, but is cut in metric. 12 year in the UK and learn to estimate distances in yard and miles, Now living in Norway, and feel that 50 km is to fast because I am thinking in 50 miles.
In my first vist to Birmingham I saw a list of measure located in the center of the city. Inches, foot, yards, pole and other more I do not remember.
When I was young a league was 3 miles... Or what a roman Legionnaire could walk in an hour.
I used leagues when I was young!
Most imperial measurements are meant to be used around your body.
Your foot LITERALLY is a foot (About 12 inches)
A yard is the distance from your nose to your finger along your outstretched arm.
An inch is the end bit of your thumb past your last knuckle. (This is where the "Rule of thumb" comes from!)
A pole is 6ft if I remember right... I never used that one, it was only used in industry.
From there its ounces, pounds, stones and a bunch more.
Imperial measurements are a little like the American "Cups" system. It didn't really matter about how big the cup is as long as that same cup is used for everything.
Your inch may not be the same as my inch, but if you are making something it didn't matter.
That was the original concept anyway. B-)
There are still some more obscure imperial measures used in the UK that are only really used in specialist areas, like Furlongs for horse racing. I do not know of any that actually use the 'pole' but there might be one out there.
@@Thurgosh_OG and stones for weight.
@@Kalamain - a pole is 16-1/2 feet (that is, 7 ells or 1/4 of a chain). A pole is also called a perch or a rod.
I don't know why modern Brits can't manage the system. It's simple: 3 grains to an inch, 18 inches to an ell, 7 ells to a pole/rod/perch, 4 rods to a chain, 10 chains to a furlong, and 8 furlongs to a mile. What could be simpler?
And of course an acre is one chain wide and 10 chains long (or 10 square chains). I love how all the measurements connect to each other.
Most of these measurements only surveyors need to know, for when they have to deal with old deeds - and depending on the state they may need to know the old French or Spanish systems too. But surveyors switched to decimal feet a long time ago.
@@alanlight7740 Ah... I'm going by memory here and for me this was all a LOOONG Time ago!
I never did much measuring... Only the occasional bushel and mainly weights.
My GP in the UK asked me how many feet I was tall, I asked 'no idea but I'm 1.75m'. 'oh good so I don't have to make the conversion'.
Years after, working at a GP practice, I realized they use metric system only, and every time a height or weight is reported they have to CONVERT it.
So you report you are 12 stones and five, you can write 12st5lb on system and it converts OR 12.5st and it converts to another value (both in kg). WHY ON EARTH, get rid of this. I love all traditions and I'm up to preserve them, but this one is a HUGE source of mistakes (especially when making precise calculations for CrCl for medications dosages... That becomes a LIABILITY)
all babies are born in metric
Whenever a doctor or nurse has needed my height or weight (also in the UK), they've always measured me themselves (should be more reliable and avoids conversions). They then tell me the metric measurement followed by "that's about X stones/feet".
I also think we should finally abandon the imperial system though, unless someone (presumably 60+) specifically asks for a conversion.
"you can write 12st5lb on system and it converts OR 12.5st and it converts to another value"
I'm not sure what your point is here, but 12st5lb is NOT 12.5 stone. There are 14 pounds to one stone, so 12.5 stone is 12st 7lb
Were I to find my GP calculating a dose of medication in drams per pound , I would be looking for another GP
@@gulflines1960 yes that is exactly what I said. They do not return the same value in KG and often we have housebound patients with no other way than having a weight than asking the carers. Who will often say 'twelve stones five'. Which value do you select then?
I’m American and would be happy to go metric. It would take some time and effort, but it would be worth it. The reason that Americans don’t want it is because they remember that math class where we had to convert back and forth. I agree. It was horrible, but we are the last imperial country. Once we go metric, nobody would ever have to do it again. It will never happen because as most Americans think, there is the right way, the wrong way and the American way, but the American way is the right way, even if it is the wrong way..
the ONLY freedom units are METRIC...ask NASA
I think most US manufacturing is already metric so it would not be a big deal for them to change.
That’s true. I don’t know if non American realize that when we go for car repairs, there are two sets of tools-one for American cars and one for cars manufactured elsewhere. Crazy.
Most of the USA is already metric... the Military is, the Scouts are, engineering is, manufacturing is ... only house building is violently imperial ...
Food was a great way to normalize it for the general public.
Big number kg, little numbers in lb.
Easy to implement and hits many people.
Fresh stuff still tends to have both, but packet food tends only to be metric, now ... I feel the need to go check some packaging now 😂.
I am proud to say that I am one of the people who took part in the consultation, voting to leave things as they are. My primary reason for not wanting to go full Metric is I love seeing the idiotic 2.272 litres on a 4-pint bottle of milk, it reminds me how ridiculous the UK is and under no circumstances should it be taken too seriously. I encourage everyone to go and get a measuring jug to see how ridiculous 68 ml is a thing to be getting excited over. I am also not surprised Rees Moggy stuck his oar in, he got all excited with the prospect of changing the distance between signs you have inside a tunnel. (seriously, if you want a giggle, google Rees Mogg Tunnel distance. The articles that pop up aren't holding back.)
68 ml is about 2 gob fulls of mouthwash, give or take.
I only buy my milk in litres.
Will treat myself to a giggle at the fwhit's expense and Google it.
Also I'm not sure there will be any rush to sell wine in pints since restaurants get it in bottles that make using the metric units much easier. They'd almost have to start a production line for one pint wine bottles. Even beer isn't sold in pints when it's bottled. But whatever, a win is a win I guess 😂
What's wrong with 1L, 2L, 3L or 5L canisters of milk, oil, beer or wine? We have it here on continental Europe. I'm sorry, but for me Imperial system is utter bullshit.
Thanks for shedding light on this issue. I cant beleive there are politicians who think its worth spending costs doing a consultation bringing back an archiac system, let alone actually implementing this system nationally! Insane.
Filipino here (a.k.a. from a country that was a former US territory). Metric is so easy that even we switched to metric for most things (Yes, even beer is in milliliters.). I think the only time we use imperial is if it has to do with, weirdly enough, people (weight, height, measurements for clothes, etc.).
My bottles of wine usually contain 750ml so buying a pint of wine would be LESS wine. No thanks.
I only know "big bottles" or "little bottles".
JRM'S argument about the USA falls flat on its face even before you start to compare the trade between UK/USA and UK/ EU. The USA uses a DIFFERENT IMPERIAL SYSTEM!! So if we did revert to our old Imperial, we'd just be abandoning a "different" system for another "different" system!!
Unironically I didn't realize how mindblowingly stupid was the imperial system until I lived in Japan and realized they force a dumb system and force their kids to learn THOUSANDS of characters just so they learn to read and write their language
The U.S. customary system is chiefly different for volume measurements. Weight and distance are pretty much the same as Imperial.
Lots to say about this, but one anecdote, while working as a junior site engineer on M1 motorway widening works in early 80's it amused me that *every* aspect of the works was conducted in metric (eg lamp posts at 25m centres) -- then as last part of the works they'd put up all the signage in imperial units.
around the same time (40yrs ago) working on construction sites, we'd have Jamaican shuttering carpenters, Irish ground workers, polish laborers, most with minimal schooling. Every man worked in metric - interpreting engineering drawings, measuring, cutting, ordering materials, calculating cubic measurements. These folks, if they're still alive would be in their 80's now. So I could not understand the argument about meeting the needs of older people. Every person who works with numbers in the UK has been fully conversant in the metric system for half a century.
Meanwhile in Italy (and I guess almost everywhere else), we have always been selling TV screens measured in inches and in pubs, to quote Pippin Took, beer "comes in pints" (because it makes it sound cool).
Also, in Italy no one actually knows how much liters are in a pint...so they serve a BIG glass of beer (about 50cl i think)
Same in Germany and pretty much any other country. Which has more to do with the TV manufacturers. And even so, nobody here knows how big an inch is. All people know is something like 60 inch TV is bigger than a 50 inch TV.
half a litre is a metric pint
I'm quite surprised that they actually listened to the results of the consultation and didn't just do it anyway...
Me too
They realized that as at least 3/4s of the British population are innumerate and unable to cope with numbers and I am in that population that it's just as well to keep it like it is as everyone kind of knows it in a vague way but mainly because it won't bring any profit to change it. You can bet your bottom dollar,lol,that if there was ANY PROFIT to be made in changing things again and messing with our minds they would do it,whatever.
The cartoon at 5:15 gives a clue why the some businesses might consider this a win. Its not about selling 68ml more than half a liter but 182 ml _less_ than 750ml and charging almost the same and get away with it.
The wine people who were reportedly asked about it by the Guardian - apparently every single winery asked - said they wouldn't do it because they'd have to spend money sourcing the smaller bottles, retooling their machines, etc. and still nobody would buy them (and they definitely wouldn't be able to export them).
I don't know what glas sizes are customary for wine in the UK - Germany has 0,1, 0,125, 0,2 and 0,25 l wine glasses. I'm sure they can do some shenanigans there as well - like 1/3 of a pint instead of 0,2 l for the same price. Deal of the (18th) century!
Here in Australia we switched to metric when I was in High School in the early 1970's. I've always thought of metric as superior, but I will confess there is one imperial unit I still use: psi for tyre pressure.
We do that in Denmark as well, we even only shifted from bar to psi recently, stupid decision, i will change to metric measure, but i refuse to use psi
@@d.p.2680 That sounds odd to me. If you are used to bar (or kPa) then I would agree, stick with it. Imperial has pretty much disappeared here, but our tyre pressure gauges still have both psi and bar (or kPa).
@@retiredbore378 In the US they have (kind of) decimalised imperial anyway. For example, they tend to talk in just pounds for weight. When I was a kid, we had to memorise 16 oz in 1 lb and 14 lb in 1 st. We'd give our weight with something like 8 st 11 lb. Americans, I notice, would just use pounds, so, in the example I gave, they would just give their weight as 123 lb.
@@d.p.2680 At least that's probably the easiest example to convert, since 1 bar is standard atmospheric pressure, and my generation was ingrained with the value 14.5 psi for the atmosphere at sea level. Therefore most tyres are set to the order of twice atmospheric pressure - 29 psi. Or more simply, one psi is about a seventh of a kilopascal. I think psi is liked a lot for this purpose since you don't need the finer scale resolution of units in kPa. 29 to 30 psi top-up is more meaningful than 99 to 100 kPa - a very tiny difference.
"mils" are widely used in printed circuit board design work.
The bias in the wording on this survey was so blatantly super liminal, I couldn’t believe it. I have to say it was one of the most enjoyable surveys I’ve ever done, turning every question on its head.
J Moggs is proof that there really was a timemachine in the mid 1800's, unfortunately Moggs was the only one who used it...
Not sure we need more Mogg😢
He only used it because all his classmates threw him in to make him disappear
And he'd love to send little boys up chimneys like in the good old days hes looking forward to when he can make the employment laws more sensible and junk all that unnecessary "red tape". Like Health and Safety
Not true - he brought his Nanny with him!
You missed the best part: all the wineries said “Yeah, we’re not doing that. It would cost way too much to source such a niche size of bottle, and we couldn’t really export it if we did.”
Spirit manufactures in the EU already package spirits in different sized bottles just for America. So it doesn't sound that crazy.
- yeah, but the US has recently refused to sign a new trade agreement with post Brexit UK, so.......@@khaitomretro
I think they are well aware of that fact and purposly have chosen this particular application. Because it is quite obvious that any change that would actually forces someone to change their practices in favor of using more imperial would piss of people. Just imagine how a customer that needs 600g of beef would react, if some butchers would start displaying their prices in lbs only again, while others would use kg only, because some new legislation would allow that.
@@khaitomretro 1 US pint is equal to 0.83 British pints. So yeah you would need to make a brand new shaped bottle. Anyone who knows anything about supply chain management or procurement will instinctively know that this will be very expensive and time consuming to change, and that there will be no benefit as a result of the change.
Brexit number 2
Since the UK is so well known for its wine industry, this is really an important step. I'm sure the whole world will now adjust to that size of wine bottles.
Or everybody who wants to export to the EU will simply stick with 750ml or 1l bottles. Which one might it be?
The fact that the UK government has spent money on doing this survey is not surprising, but it is disgusting.
Especially at a time when the country is cash-strapped and lots of public resources are underfunded.
I just laughed my head off when i read The Guardian's article about it. Every last one of the Brit vineyards they approached all said.... it's absolutely pointless. It would cost so much money to comission new bottles that are non-industry standard (as in, the wine industry), that it would negate any fraction of a gain in price increase. We won't be 'taking advantage' of this 'new and exciting' opportunity to go backward. I think there was mention of even the US using 750ml bottles to make selling abroad easier with less red tape, but it was a few days ago. Toxic tories and getting brexshit done..... this is one of the eleventymillion reasons why everyone hates them so much.
The US wine industry works in metric. 750ml is the global standard that all wine bottled in whatever size is based from.
tbh anyone could make a different size bottle and sell wine in that. But they wouldn't because there is literally no point.
you mean "pintless" 😀
Oh, btw. The imperial units in the US are slightly different from the British imperial units. There you go. The gallon isn't exactly the same as a gallon on the other side of the pond, Neither is the pound. Well, unless they changed something.
AFAIK, the pound is the same. (2.2 lb/kg, right?). The big differences are in volume, and I think surveying distances (like how you measure parcels of land).
What I think you might be thinking of with weight is the tonne. As I recall, the UK means 2200 lbs, aka long tonne, when the just say "tonne". Hey, that's 1000kg or a metric ton. What a coincidence. When the US says tonne, it's the short tonne or 2000lb.
@@LiqdPT As I said, there are differences between imperial units across the pond. The metric system is _exactly the same_ all over the world.
@@OldieBugger yes, but 1) you said pound and I don't think that's different and 2) if you said imperial in the US many people wouldnt have a clue what you're talking about. It's not the US uses a different Imperial system. It uses a different system called US customary units that heavily overlaps with the Imperial system.
There are at least 4 different kinds of ounces, each used for measuring something different.
@@neuralwarp ah, yes, I suppose that's true. Off the top of my head I know of the Troy ounce. But it's probably similar to gallons (at least how they used to be, for wine, etc). And the US and the UK just picked a different one of the gallons as standard.
Hi. I'm Scottish. I'm looking forward to the 'gil' coming back. This was a spirits measure specify in Scotland. Traditionaly optics were set up to dispense in 1/4 gil. Importanty, the were larger measures than than the metric system that replaced them. Boooo. (😘😉 ).
(Happy to be corrected 😘)
It gets even better when you learn that you can sell pints of wine under EU law. You just have to add the measurement in milliliter somewhere on the bottle.
Wine is also sold in bottles of 750ml. The pint bottle is actually smaller than the regular wine bottle. It will probably boost the wine industry if the pint bottles are the same price as the regular bottles.
So basically what we do with our milks but instead with the wine?
honestly the same people that want 100% imperial are the same people who can't read digital clocks despite it telling you the exact time
…with zero regard to the fact that young people now leave school completely incapable of reading analogue clocks and watches. Is that a move forward?
My 7th grader learned how in 4th grade. Maybe YOU’RE misinformed.
I know young people who can't read a 24 hour digital clock. The imperial system would only confuse you.
me thinks that aint true @@GeoffRiley
@@GeoffRiley Well, yeah, it kind of is a move forward. Seeing as the default clock today is digital, and analogue clocks are a quaint anachronism mainly used for style.
Isn't a standard wine bottle 750ml? Who uses little 500ml bottles anyhow, let alone pints for wine?
We have many half liter wine bottles in Europe ... and 3/4 Liter and 1 Liter, too.
I was not aware there is a standard wine bottle size. Makes sense for logistics/recycling though!
@@alexandergutfeldt1144 The only time I get wine by the 1/2 litre in Europe is in a Carafe, 37ml is quite common though.
@@alexandergutfeldt1144 can't say I have seen many 1/2 litre bottles of wine in Europe, tbh. Beers, yes, but not wine. I have seen bottles of 37.50 centilitre (i.e. half of 75 cl) of wine, though.
@@barvdw You might be correct. I am not a huge wine drinker and only buy it in small quantities for cooking and deserts.
Äs Guets Nöis (Happy New Year)!
500ml of wine is a carafe.
2 large glasses.
Thank you, Jebus! 😆 I am a CNC machinist from Europe, working in the UK and making stuff for American companies. My machines are working in Metric. My drawings are in the Imperial, with the dimensions written as 3 3/4" for example, while other production sheets have same dimensions written as 3.75". The first thing I have to do when I come to work is to take out my calculator and spend the first 15 min converting it all to the Metric system. Honestly, it is doing my head in! 🤪
Still in 2024? I worked the summer of 84 as an exchange student in a Californian machine shop. The machinists were imperial but the engineers were bilingual. They would translate in and out of metric to save time and avoid errors.
But that was in 84. Maybe give them a ring and ask for 'the other drawings' ;-)
G70-71, or G20-21 has long been the norm to switch between metric and imperial. Im a CNC teacher in belgium, so 99% of the CNC work I do is metric, and none of my students know imperial beyond 1"=25,4mm but when I do get the occasional drawing in inches, I'm just using G70 on the older machines or G20 on our Haas machines.
And if it's a part requiring CAM I'll just model it in inches, and the post processor will be working in metric without any problems.
I could use G20-21 to switch, but I much prefer to work in the Imperial system, so for me, the calculator it is :) G70-71 is a rough turn/finish turn on my lathe. @@slome815
Fun video! I am very happy you did not make the same mistake the one minster you quoted had made. Indeed, when you were joking about converting pints, you even alluded to it.
For others who are reading: The US has *never* used Imperial Measure. We use US Customary Units, which were created in response to Imperial measure and some were different to begin with (liquid measure I think). Later, with the international Yard and Pound treaty, we fiddled with both those units so our two countries would be using the same definition. But before that was the Metric treaty. Many people may not know that the US was one of the founding countries that established metrics, All US customary units were redefined to a metric standard. An American inch is 2.54cm. An Imperial inch is 2.5399999999etc. The US is more metric than people realize. The military and government are all metric. We use metric for our ammunition and contraband. For all our medicine. All items we purchase are marked in Customary and Metric units. We go back and forth on weight and measures, using both systems. Our money is metric. We were one of the first to do that. Temperature though, I doubt we will ever go off Fahrenheit though.
I worked the summer of 84 as an exchange student in SoCal in an engineering company. Everything that needed numbers would be translated from customary to metric and back to customary to save time and avoid errors.
its amazing to me that the UK is actually receptive and will act on (at least some of the) things that their people want. This could never happen stateside. we've known a multitude of things that the American people are overwhelmingly in support of that are completely and callously rejected by that joke we call congress.
It's a lot easier when "acting on" those things requires doing literally nothing. If this was something that actually required action, it would probably die somewhere down the chain of implementation.
Can you give an example?
Except that no one, beyond a handful of xenophobes who voted for Brexit, which isn't even everyone who voted Brexit, want this. And even then, they only wanted it when the news papers told them they would be taking back control from the "unelected beurocrats" in the EU by doing the opposite of all they do. Like pints of wine, and leaving the ECHR which does abhorent things such as prevent our human rights from being taken away from us. Nasty and unneccesary things like workers rights, holiday and maternity pay, let alone things like criminilising homosexuality and disability rights. Here 90% of the media is right wing with most of the owners having attended eye wateringly expensive schools with most of the Conservative MPs. So they are effectively the Tory client media. So the press pump out skewed data to encourage the public to vote against their interests and keep the Tories in power so they can continue piping trillions of tax payers money to their friends and doners whilst ensuring they also feather their own nests with a large sum whilst telling the public that the NHS, disabled people, and migrants are the reason there is anything wrong with the country at all. As a disabled woman I am so exhausted and as I type this I am sat in the one room in my flat I can afford to heat, and the only one I could afford a second hand carpet for, as I choose which 30 minutes each day I can afford to heat that room. Spending each day with my dog under blankets and duvets to stop from freezing. Even as my pain levels increase because of the cold, and inability to move as much or sit up properly. So of course a pint of wine is going to make all that perfectly alright! So fed up with the wrecking ball this government keeps aiming at it's people. Sorry for the rant, got a bit carried away there, and my dog is shivering inside my hoodie.
@@msjkramey no fault evictions..... the toxic tories have long promised to stop them, but after 13years people are still being evicted from rental properties, either to turn the house into an air bnb type short term let, or because the property desperately needs vital maintenance and the owner doesn't want to fix it, so they boot the tenant out and put it back up for rent.... the tragic part, is that Labour probably would have unanimously voted in favour of stopping no fault evictions, along with the Lib Dems and Green Party, it would have been a rubber stamped legislation change. But no, they just want to vilify desperate refugees by calling them 'illegal immigrants' and ILLEGALLY send them to Rwanda, because ending the evictions would have affected them personally as landlords.
It's also very unlikely to get any kind of vote to end up nearly unanimous in the United States though.
American and UK Imperial units are mostly different anyway so Rees-Mogg is being an idiot as usual.
Yet they have something in common : the SI system 🎉🎉🎉🎉 because both of them use units that are now based since decades on top of SI units applying a convertion ratio to it 🎆 so a pound is defined by kg and a foot from a yard (=3ft) which is defined by m 🎉 for instance : international yard equals 0.9144 meters and the international pound equals 0.45359237 kilograms since 1959, and both US customary and British/Imperial units stick on that 🤣😂🤣
He still found the biggest advantage with this whole brexit thing. All other consequences of the brexit are purely negative for all people.
In 1979, Arizona thought that the US was going to change from Imperial to Metric so they decided to make Interstate 19 (I-19) reflect that optimism. The speed limit is in kph. The offramps and onramps are spaced apart according to kilometers and numbered by how far from the starting point (in kilometers) they are from the starting point.
When America didn't change, they kept it as a novelty and, more importantly, because changing everything over to Imperial would have been very confusing and a huge headache.
By the way, Arizona is one of the few states that doesn't change their clocks twice a year. We Americans need to be more like Arizona.
I do feel for my teachers who taught my generation the brand-new metric system. They taught it as they, themselves, were learning to use it in real life. I can use both as I have some seriously old recipe books but I also teach, there is no way I could teach the old-fashioned imperial system. It's far too complicated. I think and work in metric
No worries. It will eventually become standard in England. Americans complained, but simply knew it was important as the EU grows stronger. To quote the Godfather: “It’s not personal, but strictly business.”
I am hoping America can someday switch to metric. Why would anyone want to switch to the imperial system?
Muh sovereignty probably
i would like it if the US would implement a bit more of a dual system of metric and imperial regarding signage on roads and highways to display both miles and km. but that would probably require billions of dollars to update or add extra signage across this massive country. but it always comes down to "who is going to pay for that?"
" 'cause you can take my all Murican, Freedom Lovin', Imperial Measured 9mm hand gun out of my cold stiff hands when..." ...oops.?
First of all. Officially the US adopted the metric system and all customary units are officially defined by the metric system.
As for day to day use it's not going to happen in the near future but it's creeping in. Soft drinks have 2 liter bottles, wine bottles are in mililiters and liters. Metric is also used in science, medicine by the military and many others, especially those that regularly interact with other countries.
I find it funny how they claim it would be impossible (too hard) to switch over to it... like every other country hasn't done it at some point in the last couple of hundred years... Are they suggesting every other country is better than them?
I'm 63 so, I was taught Imperial measurements, and then later Metric measurements, I like a lot of people in the U.K. have used elements of both systems all my life, to me I'm not really bothered by this, but it might be different for some.
I'm 66. Ditto.
I’m 63. Had same education but my professional life is all metric and has been for decades. It is the language of science and technology and allows for international easier cooperation and discussion. This was one of the most stupid potential policies amongst a long list of stupid policies. Don’t get me going on a pint of wine…..😂. Best wishes for 2024
I'm the same age as you but not sure I was ever taught Imperial. I think we assumed the UK was going to go completely metric like Australia.
This was absolutely brilliant and a wild ride from start to finish! Thank you Evan
As a Brit I will also say I dont think ive ever seen a bottle of British Wine, all in shops is mainly Australian, Argentinian, Chilean, South African, French, Italian and New Zealander.
I haven't seen anything prepackaged sold in a grocery store in the USA not labeled in metric. It's how I know that my gallons of milk are 3.78l. The US converted to metric long ago and it is just that the old units have never been removed from prepackaged products and no one wants to replace millions of miles of road signs.
Imagine Jacob Rees-Mogg and Marjorie Taylor Greene meeting. The conservative universe would implode.
I had drifted out of the habit of watching your videos regularly but the topical stuff hooked me back in, so I hope you'll continue
Thanks! I'm always trying different things and my interest in certain topics comes and goes in waves, so I'll try and balance more topical things like this in with my wide content net
@@evan yeah, that's totally fair and normal, and human
I think the point that I stopped watching regularly was when you were doing all the Reddit content (which just isn't my thing) and then the algorithm stopped putting your content on my homepage and it was only a few weeks ago that I went "hey, I haven't seen anything from Evan in a while. is he still uploading?"
My primary school in the UK decided that they would educate us exclusively in metric units back in the 60s in anticipation of our joining the EEC. It was a bit weird at the time but it means I'm fully conversant with both systems. On the whole, for everyday tasks I prefer imperial units on account of (1) their appropriate scale (nobody can truly picture 227 individual grams in their mind's eye but they can picture 8 individual ounces) and (2) their divisibility (just try cutting 25g of butter from a 250g pack - it was a cinch cutting an ounce of butter from an 8oz pack). Meanwhile for science and engineering I always use metric.
It's a pity that people tend to mock imperial as being somehow 'backward'. It's just a different system with its own advantages and disadvantages.
The reason we finally lost imperial weights for commercial usage was an EU directive that banned pounds and ounces for the selling of loose foodstuffs at the end of 1999 - hardly anyone here was in favour of the change at the time but the EU insisted and a new generation of people therefore only think in terms of metric mass rather than in weights). Gallons disappeared previously to that because mechanical petrol pumps couldn't display the price per gallon when it went above 99 pence - it wouldn't be a problem today. Margaret Thatcher negotiated a couple of exemptions with the EU allowing us to continue to use pints for beer and cider in pubs, for milk in the then ubiquitous returnable bottles, and miles and yards for road transport.
In practice the EU turns a blind eye to items that are sold internationally using imperial measures (TVs, computers, phones, car tyres, bike frames, jeans, gold, burgers etc) and accepts the use of imperial units in sectors where it is already established virtually worldwide (for example within aviation and shipping).
"just try cutting 25g of butter from a 250g pack - it was a cinch cutting an ounce of butter from an 8oz pack"
Hey? They're just as easy as each other. The first is a tenth, the second an eighth. Cutting a tenth is quite simple. I've done it plenty of times. Just requires a bit of spatial awareness, which anyone can gain. If you like you could just cut the 250th into eighths. You'd be using ~31 g of butter instead of 25 g, but most cooks deal in approximates; they don't measure stuff out on Sartorius or Mettler balances. Most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference between two chocolate cakes where the second had 6g more butter in it.
@@thelongdrag9188 Not to mention that packs of butter literally have 25g markings on them. Also, if you truly wanted specificity you'd weigh it rather than guess.
I'm an American who has lived in England for eleven years. Surprisingly, I never thought I would learn the metric system, but I've become so accustomed to it over the past decade that I didn't even realize I had learned and understood it. lol
The great thing about it is that you're not bogged down by conversions once you start getting a feel for it in different contexts. There's so little to learn that it's mostly about getting used to it.
@@blechtic Agreed. I didn't even realize I naturally converted to the metric system until an American friend asked why I was using centimeters instead of inches. Or Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. 🤷
In daily life, measurement systems are just random numbers you grow to have intuitions about. The specific numbers don't matter overmuch, just keep using it and you'll acquire it.
Evan's been a tiny bit more savage lately haha
Savage, but real :)
The longer you live under this fuck up of a government, the more sarcastic you get. It's our only coping mechanism, other than drinking.
@@stephenphillips595 ngl I'm on that same boat. In fact I'm learning to tone down my sarcasm to talk to people who don't think about these things as often lol
I'm loving it. 😁
He's got his citizenship innit?
I was one of those fews that filled out that survey, seems like that was ages ago! Good to see it actually helped though, I was one of the "All in for metric" gang!
The best scene in 1984 was the old drunk bemoaning he can't get drinks in pints anymore! 😆
If there’s a time to fully adopt the metric system, it is now. The time is now.
The time is now, and time is imperial.
@FormallyKnownAsX The fact that you did "inch by inch" whilst wanting to switch to metric is actually hilarious. I'm not trying to argue for imperial- it sucks- I just thought it would be funny. Have a good day.
I mean - I don't think I'm the only one who has said, "Oh, remember we need a pint of milk." when it's actually in liters or whatever. It's just a turn of phrase. Nobody should take me literally.
Not that I have dairy, anymore, but when we used to get bottles of milk left on our doorstep (long after the metric system came in) - were those pints or liters? Was it ever anything more than a colloquialism? I never cared enough to care.
I have cared, though, that five mil is roughly one teaspoon full. That's handy to know. I'd have been in so much trouble if medicine was measured in something Imperial and spoons stayed the same size. However, America - can you cut out this 'cup' nonsense. We have scales and measuring jugs. I had to buy myself a set of 'cups' for measuring. They have seen hardly any action and I don't know why there is more than one. If you want the UK to have a go at trying to recreate, and appreciate, your baked goods - please, stop explaining the recipes using cups. I know there is an eminent logic to it (given that it's more akin to proportions) but it mortifies the UK. We're ready, and waiting, with our scales and measuring jugs - just give us the numbers.
We'd have had to have new spoons if Rees-Mogg had got his way. Old spoons would have been outlawed after an obvious uptick in hospital admissions due to accidental overdoses. Special police units going door to door to check our cutlery drawers.
@@batintheattic7293 I think the more relevant question for those milk bottles left on the doorstep was "how much water did they add to it this time".
Standards and regulations are mostly a good thing.
@@ImOnioned Please read Formally's post again, this time with your sarcasm detector turned on.
I've grown up with a mixture of the systems. Like everything else about 21st century UK, it's a hodge-podge, and that suits us just fine. If we went full metric one day, I wouldn't really mind or care.
Personal Weight, I tend to us Kg. Height, I have a problem with metric. Weight happy either way. Even distance, km or mile, irrelevant really.
Speed in a car either. Speed in a plane? Still knots and feet for heights.
For me, I have been using both for a long time, Engineering still sways between both.
We buy our petrol in Litres, but still thing about Miles Per Gallon (and not the American Gallon).
We buy mice by the pound, but know we have to look for circa 450 grams of the stuff.
If I measure a room, say for flooring, I'll measure it in mm/CM unless it happens to be exactly x number of inches, then yeah, its suddenly 16 feet. Some people still use yards (Football pitches still have the 6 yard box or say a player shot from 25 yards out.
We do buy fluids in ml or L, unless it's divisible by Pint (1/2/4 pints Milk) beer is only sold in Pints in pubs, you do get some 'Pint' cans in supermarkets, but they are generally labelled as ml (275/330/440/568). Fluid Ounces can just do one.
All road speeds are Miles Per Hour.
Boats still use knots.
All the old money is gone, even the terms, except cockney slang, you might hear someone ask for a Skin Diver (fiver) or a Pony (£25) or even a Grand (£1000) there are plenty others, too many to mention.
Socket sets still come in mm or fractions (5/8" inch) and Subway will still sell you a foot long :)
Let's embrace and use both where applicable, just gives us so much more flexibility.
I'm British and I've lived in the UK my whole life, our mixed up mess of measurements actually makes it difficult to fully understand either system. I wish the government would just get on with going fully metric to make everyone's lives easier.
The vast majority of people who primarily use imperial are now 60+, so whilst having both noted would be helpful to them it doesn't make sense to delay full conversion for them. As a comparison, the decimalisation of our currency in the 70s was difficult and expensive, but nobody nowadays asks for the price of their loaf of bread in shillings and everyone agrees that the old system was more complicated to understand.
The only real downside of going fully metric is cost and this can be mitigated by incorporating it into other costs. For example, road signs are the big thing that people say would be difficult and costly, so you just have new regulations for new and replacement signage which you'd have to pay for anyway. Obviously a mixture of miles and kilometres would be confusing, so to start off with signs would have both on them until all signs had been replaced and people were familiar with kilometres for distances (then new and replacement signs would be just in kilometres).
This is exactly what happened with the decimilisation of currency: shops would display both prices for a while and give both values at the till, until this was no longer necessary. Of course people still complained, but they either got over it or are no longer around (children of the time are now 50+).
I work at a UK store that sells screws: lots of screws (but not as many as people actually think). We also sell lots of other DIY and trade products. If you're British, you'll know which company I'm referring to... Anyway...people in their 50s and older frequently use imperial and people who are younger use metric. Most products are now in metric but plumbing will often use both measurements - so there is often a requirement for a 15mm copper pipe to convert into a 1/2" bsp thread. It's ridiculous: I was being taught metric in the 1970s at primary school, so we really could have transitioned fully into metric years ago. Little Britain needs to grow up.
Most people I know of my parents' age (born in the 1950s) use metric. Two of them even voted to leave the EU.
I have a 1/2 inch garden tap and had to buy hose adapters for my garden hose, many homes still have the original imperial plumbing so need those "Ridiculous" imperial sizes
my schooling was imperial measurements , we also learned our times table and did mental arithmetic which comes in handy adding prices up, I can still convert decimal currency to £ S d and back again, that also comes in handy at times.
As decimal currency came in 1971 you would of been taught metric in the 1970s
@@macraghnaill3553I was taught Imperial by my parents but metric in school. I don't really have a problem converting between the different units. It's certainly not "ridiculous" to buy the correct size part if it happens to be a non metric size. They are standard parts, you obviously need the one that fits. If I'm measuring or designing something I'll do it in metric though. I may need to use trigonometry to calculate the required length of something, which is easier to do with a calculator when using decimal units.
@@macraghnaill3553 I *was* taught decimal in the 70s. So why people my age insist on using it is definitely due to a Little Britain mentality. They also probably voted for Brexit and are delighted by the notion of drinking an entire pint of wine. (Thunderbird, no doubt, because why would Europe give us pints of wine?).
@@vivienclogger You do realize that the people you are slagging off for voting for Brexit are the same people who voted to join the EU .
people your age probably use imperial i.e pints/ounces/pounds /yards/feet /inches because their parents those units, i.e nip to the shop and buy 1lb of apples or a 12 inch ruler and those measurements stayed with them
This reminds me of a Reddit Question I saw called. "Should we be teaching children to use their regional dialects?" To which the response is "no" because that's not how dialects work and you would be making more work for teachers who are already overworked.
I remember that question being quite a hot topic several years ago. Regional accents, since the inauguration of universal schooling, have formed from the oppression of received pronunciation. They exist, and they're very real and authentic, but they would be caricatures if they were taught. I do think it's quite cool to learn the history and origins of regional dialects, though.
Wisht, lads, had yer gobs and I'll tell yers all an awful story. Wisht, lads, had yer gobs and I'll tell yer boot the warm.
Germany went metric in the early 1870s as far as I know. They kept some of their old units for something like 80 years or more but rounded them to the nearest metric equivalent (a German pound in the 1960s was an unofficial unit of 0.5 kg, widely used in grocery sales and recipes). That might have been an idea for the UK.
Thanks, that was very amusing.
I am always amazed at the number of times I hear people, who are at the age I would expect them to use metric, telling me "it's 4 feet away" or it's "about 6 feet up". We seem to be comfortable with a mixture of both, so I'm guessing a lot of people who were around at the time we changed have passed the ability to convert 'on the fly'.
I grew up where at home the imperial measurements were used, but at school I was taught entirely in metric so I ended up just learning fo convert on the go when needed. Definitely prefer metric, but I'm usually the person who is asked to convert if something is in imperial.
I remember helping my parents through the conversion but it is just much harder to accurately picture 180cm off the cuff, than it is to picture 6ft.
It's colloquial language really. It's not even meant to be exact.
I see Imperial as a kind of slang. It's ok in casual conversation but you wouldn't use it for anything precise.
@@chrisamies2141 In heritage engineering you would. Where the original plans / diagrams are in Imperial and don't convert cleanly to metric.
Actually, the standard size of a metric bottle of wine is 750 ml, not 500 ml.
As the cartoon at 5:19 shows, if pint bottles of wine are ever put to market (hunch: they won't), the final price per unit of measurement will be higher, because producers would have to set a new, smaller production line just for that bottle size which will only be available in the British market.
I'd say the only other instances where we still use imperial would be height and weight. For instance I say I'm 6ft and I weigh X stone (not including the weight since it's just been christmas and it is higher than I would like 😂)
Nice to see the government is tackling the hard issues here once again 🙃
But this is what people complain about.
British life is not metric or imperial... It's just buying stuff and using it.
You might use either system, but you will still buy a bottle of milk and a pack of butter.
The measurements are only shown so you can prove you are getting what you are paying for.
Stone makes no sense to me when it comes to weight so I always use KG but I’ll say I’m 6’1ft 😂
I’m surprised that the results were so heavily in favour of sticking with the largely Metric system. Not surprised because I want to return to Imperial or anything like that, but surprised as I took part in this consultation (I assume it was the only one - it was accessible to anyone). My surprise comes from the actual form of the consultation itself. Each and every question was similarly fair and balanced as this:
You purchase an item from a supermarket, do you want the weight of that item to be indicated by
a) Imperial Measurements only
b) Imperial Measurements with a smaller/lesser/reduced/less prominent Metric Measurement
A Comments box
Luckily, they were so assured of themselves/up their own fundamentals/dense that they didn’t make answering a or b compulsory and you could say what you really wanted in the comments box.
the fact we still use imperial for anything is absolutely insane like base 10 is so much easier to understand than the randomly assigned stacks of ounces to pounds and tonnes and stuff
Minor point: tonne spelled that way is a metric tonne(1,000kg).
Ton spelled this way(which always looks weird IMO) is an imperial/US customary thing. It's either 2,000 US customary pounds(~907kg) or 2,240 imperial pounds(~1,016kg).
Yay legacy units with no clearly defined value.
absolutley! I'm a potter and buy my clay by the metric tonne, 80x 12.5kg bags of clay on a pallet. It just makes sense. It WORKS. And on pallet delivery day, I get to tell people I lifted 1000kg, twice over. Onto my sack trolley and off my sack trolley.
No necessarily. In the old days with no calculator and everything had to be done by hand, dividing 12 into 2,3,4,6; 16 into 2,4,8 is easy. Try doing that with "metric". So different ways of working were developed. Other measures were similarly developed for particular purpose, with their particlular way of working. Old systems worked well with old ways of working etc.
in other words people were worse at maths so they had to use the king's foot to help them measuring???@@lewistsao3279
I'm a UK chemical engineer, and I often deal with lots of different units. In my field, US units are very common. Pounds, inches, feet, farenheit, us gallons, etc. You get used to using conversion factors all the time. But it's still easy to get tripped up when one part of the world uses different standard temperature and pressure base lines, to another. But I have to say the metric system is by far the best.
As a (retired) American physicist and electrical engineer I must say I was glad to graduate from university and never have to deal with a slug again. Most of my physics work on cyclotrons has been all metric as that is what is used in the field everywhere. The the biggest hassle comes with plumbing. The world has lots of old plumbing around with many "standards". Electrical work has different voltages, but that is what transformers are for. 😉
My daughter did chemical engineering and she had some flash cards to learn stuff and I couldn't believe that they used Imperial units. Apparently it's because the oil industry is American dominated.
@@danielcarroll3358 This. My only encounter with imperial units professionally in my time working in US physics research was when some nimrod used an imperial bolt to tighten a seal on a metric vacuum chamber. Close enough to get in, but irreversibly stuck. Very nearly cost us our year long experiment.
It's even easier to trip up when you get a mix of different decimal separators . or ,
Then there's india counting in lakh. I always have to be extra careful when I encounter numbers with 2-2-3 spacing like 12,34,567 rather than 1,234,567
yep right up to the point you try to divide by 3. :)
I am old enough to be able to understand both. Something I am very pleased about (not the old enough bit 😅)
Sometimes, I find it easier to use one over the other - especially when doing thirds, something the metric system is not as good at.
Recipes, I just use whatever it is written in.
However, even as someone who still thinks in miles, pints, stones and pounds, and Fahrenheit in many situations, if I could only choose one, it would be the metric system hands down.
1 US pint is 473ml. 1 UK pint is 568ml.
The picture shows that 750ml has the same price. Then I choose milli liters, so I get more.
The English can do whatever they want on the island, but if they want to sell internationally, liters are the unit.
YES, PLEASE, MORE OF THIS FORMAT!
(news/current events with opinion/discussion)
The maddest bit about this is that the reason wine is sold in 750ml bottles is because english wine merchants used that bottle size so they could get exactly 300 bottles out of a barrel of Bordeaux 😂
Standard wine bottle in the past : 6 to a gallon.(UK)
I thought the Maddest is that a Pint is 568ml and the other (empty) Booth is 750ml and both are £9.89
I'm from Germany and I remember that until about the early nineties (?), German wine bottles were 700 ml (or 1000 ml for cheaper wines). Germany, an actual wine producing country, changed the size of their wine bottles because of the EU. (And nobody gives a toss about it anymore…)
@@heylolp9 You know how chocolate bars have been getting smaller for the same price (and it has been proven), well the government be like "let me hold your wine.. and behold"
Puts hand up. I was one of the 101000 who saw the poll and cast a vote. The idea of trying to switch back to measuring things in stupid twelfths is insane. Long live sane measurements in tens and hundreds and thousands.
So very proud to have been a particular acerbic member of those 99, 665 people!
Happy New Year Evan... Looking forward to 2024 with your videos... I have no idea how long I have been following you at this point but it's been a great ride...Thank you...
I was taught in metric from the early 70s but understand both systems, although do tend to think mostly metric now. I was certainly surprised when there was talk about using imperial measurements again. I’m happy with the current setup, but most food products only displays in metric, even my milk is 2 litres with no imperial measurement shown (have no idea in fl ozs!). The UK started going metric in the 60s, so we should now finish it and change to kilometres.
I got used to 2 l milk containers in Northern Ireland, then was surprised to find 4 pints in England.
I went to school in the 1960s and was taught imperial measurement, metric only started around 1971 with decimal currency
@@macraghnaill3553just looked it up, the UK started to change to metric in 1965, seems a very long process! Happy new year
@@Chris-cp7ys I remember reading many years ago about the Florin [2 shilling coin], I have just looked it up and the Florin was minted in 1849 and was an experiment for going decimal
6:13 I use the metric system and think we should go entirely metric, but I have a rotary dial phone and use it as my main phone. Don't just assume that nobody wants them anymore. I love them and I'm only 24. It's not even an old one, it's a 2023 replica and works just like the old ones (yes it's a real rotary dial and has a mechanical bell ringer) but includes the star and hash keys (or pound key as Americans call it).
I shook my head so hard at this; unsurprising that they got a quote from Victorian misfit Rees-Mogg...