Finally a Noctua KILLER??? | Deepcool Assassin IV vs Noctua NH-U12a Review
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0:00 Intro
0:54 Sponsored Segment
1:16 Accessories Included
1:30 3rd FAN Adapter?!
1:49 Overview of the Cooler
3:00 NOTE: I WAS WRONG!
3:31 3rd FAN installation
4:05 Installing the Cooler
5:07 Thermal Paste
5:45 First Thermals & Test..... ISSUES!
6:14 2 Weeks Later...
7:16 Thermal throttling...
8:26 Cooler Mounting Orientation
9:33 Logo Lighting... ON/OFF
9:47 Tested it with 3rd FAN as well...
10:24 Fan Bracket issues...
10:39 RESULTS: Noctua VS Deepcool
13:44 Is it NOCTUA killer??
14:21 100% RAM clearance
14:35 AMAZING Design
15:05 Better option?
15:16 Best PC for Creators!
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I really like the design also, it feels like a super sports car hood engine and also it's good to see some competition and innovation for air cooling mechanics i hope that the new upcoming NHD15 V2 will be the king of raw air cooling
I really admire your way of elaborating and presenting content! Its always on point, precise and clear! Amazing as always!
I love the looks! The white one would fit so much white builds because of how clean it looks!
I really like the esthetics of the DeepCool coolers. I replaced a Thermalright Peerless Assassin dual tower with a DeepCool AK500 on an i9 10900k and the thermals are definitely not as good as the Thermalright, but the difference is negligible.
It was $99 dollars a few days ago and now it's $140 with a 7% discount on amazon. The BS marketing and these tech reviews that egg the buyers into wasting their money on literally crap for the price. I bet if they did a fan review price per performance this crap wouldn't be on the top 3 to buy.
Dang! I bought Assassin 4 (in Ukraine) five days ago for 95$ (VAT included). Now it 110$ 😅
Nice video, just to mention, there is a new firecuda 540 ssd series now...
Thank you for this Deepcool Assasin IV vs Noctua NH-U12a review. I have been building computers for an AI developer who works from home in an area with slow internet service. While coding can be done on a laptop, testing is done on a PC that I assembled with a 13900k CPU held down by a Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame and cooled by a Noctua NH-U12a and a 4090 GPU. With FurMark running on the GPU, the CPU was under 90 C while running Cinebench R23 doing a 30 minute stress test in a 25 C ambient. The multi thread score was just over 38000.
Intel XTU makes getting the most out of CPU lottery and cooling solution a lot more time efficient. Cooling solutions also need to be efficient over time. Dust decreases the cooling efficiency and dust increases with fan speed (air flow). Dust will accumulate exponentially with time. This means that an initial temperature margin will be needed to compensate for the inevitable accumulation of dust.
CPU temperature will increase exponentially with frequency. The CPU and its bios will use a higher frequency and voltage (turbo boost) on a core if the temperature and voltage and maximum frequency will allow. This seems like a good idea but it depends on the cooling solution. This turbo boost can use more of the thermal budget than the ideal heat/work ratio. A quick indication that the maximum frequency is too high is that the Windows Task Manager reports a CPU speed much lower than the maximum frequency. The best indicator is the Cinebench score at your target CPU temperature.
The best PC motherboard fan curves will remove the heat with the minimum air flow. This will make less dust and noise. By adjusting the exponent and maximum frequency the curve should look similar to the table below.
CPU C 40 50 60 70 80 90 94
Fan % 10 22 35 50 68 90 100
The number, size of the fans, and fan speed of the fans that help remove air (exhaust) should be sized to maintain positive pressure in the PC case from filtered air.
love Noctua, but options are always a good thing for the consumer, and DC realy have a quite unique looks with the new Assassib IV i dig it, even more so since we can add and fan to the front (for a little extra airflow, or rgb, or what/why ever else we want to) ^^
Were the noise levels similar? I don't recall it being mentioned in the video, unless I missed it.
I'LL prefer a high performant air cooler compared to AIO just because of the maintenance purpose.
Thanks for this content, you're Amazing always.
These days you’re not really doing any maintenance on AIOs.
@@b1g_j3rm46 True, they just randomly break after a year and you replace it or incudling the rest of your unit.
@@b1g_j3rm46 what I meant is that there's a big possibility of AIO breakdown compared to air cooler. If air cooler breakdown, what you'll change is the fan, if AIO breaks, you buy fresh one.
I'm curious to know what happens if you use a bigger air cooler, meant for threadripper or Xeon for 13900k, will it arrest the temperature??
@technotice kindly help me
@@samsonadeboga223 those coolers for workstation cpus like the nhu-14s are only that good on those cpus, because of the very large die area, so the heat can transfer way faster, on a 13900k the die is very small, so the thermal conductivity of the integrated heatsink becomes the problem, because it cant transfer the heat fast enough so no matter the cooler it will overheat
I commented on another one of your videos with my YT account at work. I've had the Enermax ETS-T50 on my i9 12900K for 2 years and recently I took a fan from Cooler Master Hyper 212 and put it on the back side of my Enermax. It made a huge difference. I then bought the Noctua NH U12A. You're not going to believe this but my Enermax beat it by about 200 on CB R23. I put my Enermax back in and now it tests the same or better with multiple tests.
My most recent build was again a Noctua, the NH-U14S-4677 for my Intel Xeon W7-2495X 512GB RTX-3090 system. This cooler is amazing, and the massive heatspreader keeps the Xeon cool. 4677 processor installation was quite different though. I bought the Chromax-White Heatsink Cover for it as well, to match my white Corsair 5000D Airflow case. It looks great. Even if someone comes out with a cooler that outperforms Noctua, it will be tough to switch. I have Noctua in all of my computers. I stopped using water about 10 years ago when I had a leak in a $6000 system that corroded the main board and case. I'm too paranoid now.
I'm excited to see the new NH-D15 with 8 heat pipes
thx cool tech, but i wood like to put cooler on the RAN to ?it's make a difference?
Just a couple weeks ago I stuck a DeepCool AK400 on a 12400 that was using a Thermaltake 240mm AIO and temps dropped from 70 Celsius to just over 50 degrees Celsius.
I did not notice on your channel that adapters for a video card or 24 pins of the motherboard were used, which allow you to make a connection at an angle of 90 degrees. They are cheap and the appearance is improved, the cables are not visible
they both looks similar, the question is which one is much quiet ? deepcool have great price and desing, but I will spend twice more money just to don't hear on low rpm the noise of motor in fans. So in that case which one have better and more silent fan? how much difference there is please? :) Overall superb video , just want to know for someone who got a ITX build powerfull which one will be more silent. For now I have a AIO 120 BeQuiet Loop and thinking to get back to best of best air cooler but need to be motor silent... Loop 120 is very good but the water pump in idle got a noises
What keyboard and mouse are u using
This "box" design highlights something no one ever talks about when it comes to huge cpu fan towers...dust cleaning, I would love to see a top 10 serviceable cpu coolers.
When will you be showcasing the Deepcooler assassin killer from Cooler Master?
....[8heat pipes]....
Hello, I’m choosing between the 3070 8gb or the rtx 3060 or ti version with a intel 7-9 what gpu and cpu do you recommend?
Another great update!
since i went to the nh u12a i havent gone back currently cooling my 7900x very well
Hi, I have the Noctua Nh-D15 and plus 5 more on my 6 months old pc, i did follow your recommendation about the i7 13700k and I installed it on a Msi 690z ddr4, i did max out the ram to 128gbs (fury) with 1000w psu gold , only thing I am so so is the gpu that is a nvidia 3060ti, it is ok but sometimes crashes when I do my video editing in 2k or 4k, I was checking PC partpicker and according to them I am able to upgrade it to the 4090, now here is the question, I want to change just my gpu no fans or anything else, maybe add some noctuas to the 4090 as I see A guy doing it with a good temp not above 55°, what do you think can be better for my case? The 4090 or 4080? thanks for any ideas and help, I love your videos, those helped me a lot when I was installing my fan orientation, it is the best. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!.
Thanks. It was also reviewed by Hardware Canuck and they got similar results, both with the pre-production unit and the retail unit. A little disappointing. It performs even worse than the previous Assassin III.
I would really love to see you review the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE. It's also supposed to be a Noctua killer.
Yeah, saw Thier video
This makes my Assassin 3 look archaic for aesthetics. Obviously perfomance is easily the best of the best for air cooling.
the noctua fan is such high standard fan that another fan that comes along sligtly better is insignificant
Design is neat, but I wonder if that's the reason why it is slightly lower than Noctua.
Those plastics that block some air running through the heat sinks from the top might be a factor.
Can you do another test and remove those covers? Or is it removable or not?
Those covers should help because they help in getting the air pull to come through the fin stack instead of leaking from top.
Waiting for the White version of the Assassin IV, the thing is beautyfull
They both need to use the same TIM. Maybe buy some Kryonaut or KPM for control testing?
Looks great
Isn't the NH-D15s with 2 fan configuration the better comparison since it's the Noctua flagship cooler compared to the NH-U12a?
U12a is the flagship
that ice cream spoon improves cooling by 40% xD
CRUCIAL now sells 64GB (2x32) DDR5 kits at 5600 that run at 1.1V, so I guess they don't need XMP enabled. Maybe consider doing a video dedicated to RAM that runs at 5600 without XMP being enabled. I only found the CRUCIAL kits myself. Cheers!
What are the Best Value Budget ATX cases with Best Air Flow ?
try Deepcool Assassin IV vs my Thermalright Spirit 120SE has 7 heatpips with Noctua NH-U12a fans, i have this setup runs great
Personally, i'd have a twin stack with 3 fans directed the same way obviously all the time, and make then as big as you can, so like 120-140-120 because of memory and back panel and its cooling.
So i would definitely add the extra fan.
I would still rather have the Noctua for the size and the fact they'll always send you free hardware when motherboards are updated.
no such thing as free. U need to pay shipping and it was $20 USD.
@@freelancer1499 am5 socket mount was free, if you could proof that you bought it
@@oscaride283 because it's the same as AM4, it already came with newer units, and most companies like arctic also provide the mounting bracket
@@ishiddddd4783 yes that's true, but I'm saying about older coolers
I agree. I have a chromax u12a and I really like it. This looks like a great cooler from Deepcool but I would be concerned about having to replace the fans (in the future) in there as they are not your standard size fans. Sticking with my u12a and will see what Noctua comes up with next
something that i dont fully understand...
why they keep putting the fans inside/between the radiators when the fan actualy needs AIR to drag or pull in order to push air in to the radiator??
cant they see that,the airflow is actualy lower than having the fan uncovered where it should drag air from?
i have a cooler from "cooler master" and it made that obvious for me to understand that the fan needs air in order to push/pull air...
i just can't understand.(i get the idea hiding the fan looks better but..)
i went on the cable mod website and i cant make the same color cable like yours i want only black and brown can you tell me how i do it or was made only for you ?
can please make a new video with deepcool, noctua to the thermalright peerless assassin
I want to see that Noctua build in a white fractal north
*black fractal north
Until white Noctua products come out in 2047
By the way, the Noctua NH U12A is noisy (high pitched).
I heared comparisons between the NH D15, the previous Deepcool Assassin 3 and NH U12A.
The U12 had the loudest noise.
Hmm interesting; I found the Deepcool fans to have an annoying whine/hum when I tried the AK620. I returned it and ended up with a u12a chromax; never noticed a high pitch sound so far.
@@JackTotGaming AK620 has higher noise than the Assassin 3.
I wished the deepcool logo lit up on the AK620 zero dark 😫
then they have to change the name to "ak620 kinda dark".
Wait so the u12a is actually better than the d15 for 12th and 13th gen? Do you have a video of that?
yeah, here: czcams.com/video/7o74u1u642I/video.html&ab_channel=TechNotice
Noctua has confirmed it as well :)
@@theTechNotice oh right, i had forgotten about that video.
Now this makes me wonder if the U12A is better for stress-like situations whereas the D15 is better in an overall normal environment. And what does that entail for the NSPR, because the D15 has a higher value.
D15 has a higher value, because people think it's the best cooler and when they look at the smaller version, they think there's no way it cools better for that price
@@SkateClipsAndTips actually, the d15 is cheaper than the u12a, at least on their respective official amazon pages
@@NicolasPL_ prices keep changing due to demand, so guess people found out the U12A cooled better
I recently bought the Deepcool Assassin 4 for my I7 13700k cpu, but it is not compatible with my Asus Rog Strix z790 -H Gaming motherboard. What I can do? I bought it without knowing that it was not compatible, because I read that it was compatible with socket 1700, but I didn't look at the motherboard.
can this be mounted on the trx50 motherboard?
Hmm is it me or are you causing issues with the fan configurations?
If rear fan on your case is set to exhaust (frameless side facing towards the cooler) and frameless side of the CPU cooler is facing towards the rear case exhaust fan....isn't that an issue?
I say this because I recently switched the CPU fans on my Deepcool AK-620 Zero Dark because I was doing the same thing you were showing. So now my middle fan is set to pull air from the RAM side, and my rear fan on CPU cooler is set to continue that path (rear fan on CPU cooler has the framed side showing towards the rear of the case), and then that has the rear case continuing that flow.
So using the following character I will demonstrate my point (II will represent my RAM on the motherboard and < will be fan direction and [] will be cooler fin stacks).
< < []
There only 2 good things about the Assasin IV, the looks, way better than any other cooler on the market and that by having a pull configuration it should be easier to clean, that's it.
Lower performance than I expected, I'm a bit let down because I was really interested when I saw their announcement at CES.
i have a noctua NH-12A something like that keeps my 13600K at max 67° (while gaming) with a undervolt of
-0.085
I mean.. I still use a BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4. Pretty much neck to neck with the NH and even out performs it in scenarios. That was the killer all along. This one? Who knows.
Looks like the black cube in Mekka lol
Guess I'm keeping my nh-u12a instead of getting this one. the austrians know their cooling. Kinda disappointed in the assassin 4 performance. there are other reviews with similar results.
it's actually not cheaper, at least here in Canada. It's at $145 which is insanely expensive as it's $5 more than the nh-d15 chromaxx black as well as the nh-u12a standard. I also prefer seeing the fan on the front, which is why I prefer my As500 plus over any dual tower cooler and if it were cheaper, would have opted for the nh-u12A.
So far Jonsbo is the only company that did the design so the front fan fits, im very happy with my Jonsbo HX6250 (I have Noctua NF A14 INDUSTRIAL fan on it too) 3000 rpm haha but stock one wasnt bad too, did you ever test Jonsbo HX7280 maybe ? Im still waiting for something better, in my opinion Deepcool didnt rly do a big thing with this one.
I use it on 5800x3d without any issues, cinebench 78c max with stock fan.
What's the noise levels like with that fan?
@@mk45232 Full speed 3000rpm is just silly, i have it setup to 2k rpm max, regular a14 goes 1500rpm.I use regular ones as intake, and industrial on cpu.
I have a Jonsbo U5 case with 6 Jonsbo ZG 120 ARGB intake and outtake fans. Also on the CPU (13900K) is mounted the Noctua NH-U12A All Jonsbo coolers are set to the lowest speed and my system is perfectly cool and quiet even when several hours of rendering are in progress
But the fans on assassin 4 has coil whine, am I right?
I like the deepcool one. it look really cool
Pun intended.
Noctua's NH-D15 competitor is Assassin 3 , not this one.
Downclock that CPUs P-cores to 4.8ghz, set voltage at 1.22v, test, if not stable, up voltage to 1.23v and so on...
Deepcool is really great brand, i use personally Deepcool AK620 for my i9 version non K, and its working amazingly good - ofc in big Phanteks Enthoo p[ro case - small form factor is just bad for cooling. Throw away AIO, air is the way. Thanks for good vid as always~!
Yeah Performance it's little "disappointing" I guess, but wasn't bad. BUT design it's so COOL and CLEANING, esthetic so 🥰😍🥵and finally 100% compatibility with all RAMs if you liked so much RGB. And if you wanted "more perfomance" we can add third fan 120mm, and "limited" RAM just a little and "increased" the perfomance.
if this cooler is noctua killer, how about deepcool ak620?
NH-U12a vs NH-D12L ? for 7800x3d super quite and cool system required, no over clocking please tell.
U12 silly. Even that might be over kill.
What’s the Best Budget cooler ?
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The tower design is great, if only the fans doesn't have that annoying hum around 1k-1.2k RPM.
Have you ever tested the Scythe Mugen 5 on anything?
I used the Thermalright peerless assassin 120 se on a 12900k and I couldn't get the temps above 85°
Peerless assassin is the budget king
@@SkateClipsAndTips the name seems to suit it perfectly.
Please exchange that case with fractal north
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Wait, how the NHU12a better than the NHD15 ???
Noctua gives 189pts compatibility/perf for the NHD15 and the 13700 series.
169pts for the NHU12a. Which is logical because of the smaller fans
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Sorry, but an aircooler for the price of a AIO (Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420), that is not really an option...
Wow... 3 fan capable... and the cringey sacrilege of a Noctua on a Deepcool makes me grin uncomfortably! 🙃
Personally I like to see heatsink and fans if they are black, this big black box is a bit boring for my taste, I'm so ready to pay for the Scythe Fuma 3 black version though....
invalid comparison, you should make ambient temp equal otherwise is no point to compare it
Thats why I wouldnt trade my noctua u12a.chromax to any air or 240,360mm aio.
i don't thing this will fit into my NR200
Never was team air… but since my itx build from 2020 I would never ever pay for watercooling again… it’s a total waste of money for 90% of users….If u don’t overclock or permanently rendering 3d scenes nobody needs it! Let’s not forget water cooling still needs fans so beside the fan noice u will also hear ur pump… next build I’m planning Marx with a huge cpu cooler and 4 x200 mm case fans 😂
Much cheaper? It's 60 bucks more expensive???
I made finally my Noctua-Dream-PC, but here is FINALLY the Noctua killer!!!
I appreciate that English is not your first language, but it's quite important that you learn the difference between "famous" and "infamous" if you going to make videos.
It's worse than it's previous version. Anyone who shills this as a better cooler is joking. It's Def pretty, looks the goods, but Performance is limited.
Wait for the vapor chamber guys
"the" wrong way... not "wrong way".
deepcool color and style is very minimilistic
i always rely on your live test mate. other utuber give some shity graph i don't know if its true.
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It's painful watching you do this gl!!
Thermal throttling WTF!?
yep!
I just wonder what's the point of having a CPU with such a gigantic cooler when it still thermal throttle, if I was living in a hot climate I'd definitely not chose that CPU.
My area is way too hot for the high temp cpu's
You are doing a great job for the creaters YHWH BLESS YOU
When you tried to test which is best air cooler before, I told you something that remains valid even now. You not having a controlled environment makes comparisons like this literally useless.
Strange enough , you keep geting sent this products. Don't know other videos you made for me is enough to understand the quality already not to waste time with you again.
More beformance? 😂
Im like number 666.. cool
Nice cooler but way to big
No matter how shiny and sporty looking the new models from competitors, Mercedes will always be a Mercedes, I mean Noctua 😁
The fans suck though. Noctua way better
You say actually and literally too much. I don't know if you change this but I watched the old video, and it's really quite annoying. Enough to not watch your videos
95% of reviewers like you, do terribly ridiculous heatsink capacity tests
You are doing a great job for the creaters YHWH BLESS YOU abandonmently