10 Reasons why People are Quitting GOLF!
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Public courses are too crowded . I welcome people dropping out. Hope it continues.
Could not agree more. Only other option is to join a country club, that is what I did and the golf is worth it if you can afford it.
I so appreciate my dew sweeper solo rounds. Love the sounds of nature, the walk and the less than 3 hour round. It is my therapy!
All of this, all of it I couldn't agree with more. There are few things better, a cup of coffee, the first tee time, the sound of a pure wedge on the dew filled fairways... i mean it's unbeatable.
the sounds of golf are incomparable. cut through the grass, the click of a pure iron, the thunk of an approach on the green, the rattle of a made putt@@seekinggreen4481
@@seekinggreen4481 And I’m lucky, my home course is Soule Park in Ojai, California and I have the weekdays off so if I get out between 630 and seven it’s like the course is just mine and I get deer running across fairway some coyotes it’s fantastic
And I'm the guy behind you that loves to see trail of those putts in the dew :) Thank you!
@@jamesreynolds4220 funny story, made a few putts thanks to those dew lines!!! 🤣
The reason most people quit. Is the courses are trying their best to get every last dollar, every time you show up. Getting too expensive. My local public course is 50% more than 2 years ago. I will not put up with that.
Same with our county courses here in Nj. County card holders used to get a discount on greens fees.. now to walk on a Monday morning is 54$ plus a 3$ reservation fee. A non card holder pays 63$ to walk. Unbelievable
@@bradpower9057 Its just the Principle of the the thing to me. My course is empty because of the price hike. I will not be extorted.
That's inflation, not golf alone
@@michaelwilber774 the other course in town went up 10%. So it's not equal.
@@michaelwilber774 You are right. BUT if one business hikes prices 30% and One hikes it 10-15% are you going to do business that hiked it the most? Not me. the course I was talking about is owned by the city.. I wonder if they are trying to run off golfers so they can close it down for the Real Estate. Not sure, But it looks that way.
Covid really railroaded all of us OG golfers. It’s what drove the price up and caused the 5+ hour rounds that used to be sub 4hr. I’m all about growing the game, but not at the detriment of my wallet and an entire Saturday. Here in Colorado even getting the first or second tee time out requires being on the phone 6hrs and 23min before that date to even have a chance. It’s got me hanging my bag up this week as opposed to late oct or early nov (weather permitting)
COVID 🤔 You mean the “planned” reset of the world economy! The sheep were fooled into believing there was an invisible microbial contagion responsible! 📺🐑
Here on Long Island, it's become very difficult to get a tee time. People have started using bots to get times.
@@msalzberg4962wow that's crazy
Couldn’t agree with you anymore man well said….Covid brought out all the wack jobs to the course and drove up green fees, and made the game move at a snails pace…..courses are too crowded with way below average golfers, too expensive, and taking way too long
Agree. Covid ruined golf. Courses are packed. Prices are way up. Pace of play is painfully slow
My problem is slow play and people out there acting like pros, when we’re all just hacks.
WE need more to quit. 6hr rounds and ripped off
This is the 2nd comment about 6 hour rounds. I don’t get it. I’ve played behind really slow groups and we still finish in 4 hours.
@@bloatedsodium7301Then it’s wasn’t a slow round for you.
@@bloatedsodium7301Must be nice. Back at the end of June (summer solstice/longest days), we teed off at 4pm on a Sunday, and had to quit on 17 because the people upfront were so daggum slow. Just for clarity- in east TN, the sun sets after 9 in late June……
6 hours?
Where are people playing where there are 6 hour rounds?
I don't mind poor players as long as they try to keep their pace up.
Even a lousy golfer can move relatively quickly - with a cart.
@@cjs7553golf courses that are going for 7 minute tea time gap. Players that don’t know etiquette, new players that are learning, the list goes on. My last round was 5 hours and 45 minutes.
I love Golf. As a converted baseball player I so wish I would have picked this up when I was a kid. This sport is all mechanics, repetition and muscle memory. More baseball players should transition sooner. I will sadly have to stop playing soon as I suffered a spinal cord injury and it’s progressively getting worse. Love this sport and I hope more people play it. This channel is great and I love the videos. For those that read this, play on till you can’t play no more and enjoy
Man buddy sad to hear your having to give up the game. It’s people like you love our game and have the passion and respect for it. Your last comment about play on til you can’t play no more was incredibly selfless! I just played the Old Course at St Andrews two weeks ago and I would have thought about your inspiring words that day. It was incredible. It’s people like you we want to stay in the game. I have no idea who you are, but I’ll be playing for you. Stay strong🙏
Best way I learned to enjoy the game was finding early morning tee times and using it as a mental break, playing with people who weren’t that good sometimes, and playing practice rounds at cheap courses so when I go to a good course on the weekend I can have more confidence.
Great video. Well said. I like your way of being supportive and positive. I have also found that walking a golf course is also great exercise, which everyone needs.
For me the worst thing is the overall time commitment. It starts when you get into the Pro shop and they are the least bit busy. Paint dries faster than they move. Then your off to the range with 75 balls you have to pay an extra $12 for. Good luck finding any grass to hit off. Now its 5 minutes before tee time so you head to the starting hole and guess what? There are 3 groups sitting there. So you tee off late and lucky you ends up playing behind the slowest foursome in the Universe and 5 hours later after having to wait at each shot you are finally done. 45 minute drive home and then the wife says what took you so long? Oh just a normal game of golf
Yep but its the same with all sports. My neighbor pays around $1500/yr for Ski passes and drives hours to get there. Another neighbor has a boat and when he goes fishing its the entire weekend and his 2 freezers are packed with salmon, halibut and cod. He's always out in his driveway working on the vehicle he tows his boat with. Golf is expensive but so are the other sports.
You and your wife should be aware of this already.
You failed to mention the 3-5 beers at the bar after your round😅
This right here is the exact reason most people quit golf…
SO Quit and stop bitching!
Great video on a topic that others do not want to touch, appreciate your willingness and honesty (and solutions!). I'm not about to give up the game, but I concur with others who have commented on the frustration of slow play - all it takes is one group to bottleneck the pace of play for everyone following them. A course marshall (if there is one) typically won't confront the guilty group. Hence I play afternoons when it is quieter, many times solo, and still love it all even at 78 years old.
Great video man very encouraging for a newer golfer just hearing it’s okay to not be able to hit a shot that day
This is the best news I’ve seen in weeks. Shrink the game! There are too many hackers out there inflating greens fees and ruining rounds. Please, hackers, go back to bowling or try pickle ball. You’ll never be good because you put more effort into your cart music than your game.
Mr. SG this was an interesting video with some good pointers. I play so much golf by myself and another thing I do…don’t keep score. And your tip about not hitting a shot you don’t like, move it - that tip is gold. Where else you playing in MB?
Great video! I started golf two weeks ago and, exactly what you said, a friend of a friend gave me an old set of clubs! Great videos Mr. SG 😊
Great video! Always appreciate your insight, humor, and coaching. Attitude is everything and yours is an A+. Thank you.
I left the game in 2005. I felt I was going nowhere, the game was an endless struggle to show even the slightest improvement. I got back into it in 2020, thanks to my adult son. I dug out some of my old clubs and played with them for a while, until I started scouring eBay for good used clubs. I got me some great deals on every club in my bag. Now I'm back into playing, and thanks to videos on YT I'm showing improvement. Being a senior I no longer have the length I had in my younger days, but I putt better, my shots a a bit more accurate, and my short game is better. I also play from the forward red tees, what I call the senior tees.
Me too,
Eventually we all get to the red tees.
I’m 75 now and been playing for 45 years. Up until I reach 50 years old I was always around an 8 handicap and as low as 6 handicap. As I got older I have been losing distance I mean a lot of distance. We used to play the back tees up until I reached 58 years old. Now I am playing from the senior tees and lucky to even get out of the 90s. It’s not much fun anymore and really depressing not being able to play the way I used to. I also don’t like playing 6 hour rounds. Even now my foursome can get around in 18 hole in 3 1/2 hours if there is no one in front of us. Five hours plus when we’re following some other group and that doesn’t help my game out.
Thanks and good video Matt with some real good ideas/suggestions. Played alone today and course was slow so I played a one man scramble. Shot -3 in nine holes on a bit of a breezy day. However I was able to play in 1:30 minutes and basically played 18 holes with the exception of a few putts and drives without holding anyone up.
Great video Matt. I am on the complete opposite spectrum and playing every weekend. I was a avid golfer from my teens to my early 30's a stopped playing the game all together for 20 years. I was too busy raising my kids and had not time. Once my youngest graduated from high school I gave it a go to see if I still liked it. Well, totally addicted now. For those in this boat please take my advise and do not stop playing the game if you love it. Find a way to play and maybe do an early bird on the back 9 or simply play some 9 hole short courses. I regret not playing this fantastic game for 20 years.
I quit for 22 years myself. I got back into it from watching the old Golfholics CZcams that also introduced me to MSG!
I had to basically quit for over 20 years as my kids grew up and their activities took precedence. All were swimmers and it seemed like every weekend we were either at a swim meet or practice. Took the game up after my son graduated from high school and play over 150 times a year now. Love the game.
Ya don't live I North East obviously.
Hoping to get in 76
Same. Soccer all the time and no 5 hr chunks of time.
People are quitting for various reasons.Mostly it’s getting too expensive,people playing and not knowing the rules or etiquette.Where I play can take four hours for a 5300 yard course.Some groups can lose more than four holes and don’t wave you through and wonder why the people behind are getting agitated.The other reason is they want to play at the same time every Saturday and Sunday when there are over 600 members.Only 36% of the tee times are used on a weekly basis.People need to change or the game will die.
I started golf and took a basic course called Guaranteed Golf. It taught how to play without frustration. Swing and let the ball get in the way. After a couple years, I got a little better. Even to the point of building my own clubs to save money. Then I hurt my back and stopped for about 7 years. Just got re-fitted and a new set of sticks. Now I am re-learning how to swing. Sooooo much different than before. I’m struggling but committed. Also, I bought direct to consumer clubs like Golfworks. They were MUCH less expensive and great clubs. It is costly, especially with $50 per doz. balls but there are ways to economize. Appreciate you and your vids. LOTS of great practical tips. TY!
Awesome reminder to us all! Senior golfer, disabled veteran here. Retired, living the dream in the beautiful tropics of the Philippines. Golf has been a godsend for me in so many ways, as it has been for many of my veteran brothers and sisters. I feel that pursuit of this game we play is well worth the effort on so many levels. Yes, the expenses have been on the rise, but there are alternative routes to ease the wallet impact.
Lucky you. Thanks for your service! Enjoy the Philippines!
Fellow veteran here, was stationed at Olongapo. Ever play the course at Camp John Hay near Baguio?
The ending 😂. This was very encouraging. As a new golfer myself, I’m learning. I took the lessons, very expensive!. But, it did help with a foundation swing. But, I’m struggling with my irons and driver, regarding distance and height. But, I still go to the range an practice, even by myself. I don’t want to quiet, I want to get better. Your right it’s hard when I don’t see progress. But, I’m gonna stick with it and keep watching your videos.
Thank you !
How is your grip? I started a little over a year ago and finally over this past week I was able to get rid of my strong grip. Now my shorts are getting more loft and distance.
@@Dayvon11 my grip is to strong, so I need help in the area.
@@derekr18 find someone who is much better than you and ask them how they grip the club. My boss showed me his grip and then I just copied it
I'm in North Carolina, haven't seen any quitting around here. The courses are packed. But it is very expensive due to the huge increase in fertilizer costs which is due to the attack on the petroleum industry.
I’m 59 and started the game at 12 was my first lesson with my Dad and the memories together were quite unforgettable. Would Love to have another chance to play again. As far as the cost, yep it is getting a bit expensive but again starting out there are decent box clubs that will fit the bill and you can most definitely add to them. Myself I prefer to build my own and found a company out of Ohio that builds there brand for you at a fraction of the cost of name brands.
I just started playing golf last year at 55. Haven't wanted to quit yet, but there are times where I got frustrated getting a good straight hit, but then I'll have a phenomenal chip shot 2 ft from the hole and I'm back in. It's a mental sport. I agree with too busy and slow players ahead of you. I can only play weekends. I wish I had your form and could hit liked that. 😁
I always played golf to challenge myself. To see how good I could get. I played 9 holes after work. Played 36 with buddies on the weekend. Where I lived it was decent price wise. Now not so much. I still want to play 4-5 times a week. But no buddies and the cost is tough to justify.
I’m in Nj, the greens fees are definitely not coming down. The pace of play is another issue. Covid killed golf for a lot of people. Courses couldn’t handle the over load of new players and they saw the dollar signs they could charge being that it was one of the few things available to do.
Same in MD. Crazy green fees and no tee times.
enjoyed the video, back in the 70's most golfers walked when I started and there was a starter who put folks together. Also back then if you were by yourself people would ask you if you were alone if you wanted to play with them. This was common. Does not happen anymore, and when playing with friends I will ask solo players if they want to join us. They are shocked and they appreciate it. I live in Florida and the cost during season is high, for an average course can be $80 dollars for a round. Too much for me. I got lucky and joined a member owned course for around $400 a month and I keep my cart there for $30 bucks a month. Now I play every day (retired). I Agree when you upgrade your clubs give your old set to someone starting. If we do not get more folks into the game courses are going to close. Most golf courses barely break even anymore and this is a course without any debt. Lets be ambassadors to the great game and help facilitate more play.
When it's 105 to 115 degrees here in the southwest, it's a good reason to quit. The grass on our local munis is completely yellow.
I do the chipping thing on the tee box all the time on slow rounds. It makes a huge difference, builds confidence for your next chip shot.
I chip on the tee box too. Downhill, uphill, tight lie, and fluffy.
@@jeffreymiller1052 their ain't no chipping around the tee box on a desert course lol
Every course around where I live is usually packed. If you get behind a foursome, you’re doomed. The courses don’t care or they would enforce quicker play. The worse is people bringing their kids out who have no clue how to play golf. I love the game, but people anymore are clueless.
People learning bothering you by going slower is ridiculous. I get it, slow play sucks. But people need to learn.
@@rudyruiz9521 - you don’t learn on the course cupcake. You learn by taking lessons or the driving range. I don’t pay 50 bucks to wait while someone learns.
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Golf can be cheap, especially if you're a high handicap like me. It's fun, cheap, and a great hobby!
Haven't thought about quitting. Took a while to get started though.
Biggest reason for that was the apparent cost of entry. I didn't let it stop me, just started with hand-me-downs and looked for stuff second hand.
I would worry about being paired up at first, but most of the time, the people I get paired up with are cool. I just try to make sure I don't talk too much. Would love to be able to do some rounds solo 9 walking.
Lag putting is great. Practice reading greens without the pressure of needing to make the putt. Sometimes they go in, but understanding greens and pace is going to save 2-3 shots per 9, I'd guess.
Golf sadly is due for a recession, the cost to play, the cost of equipment, and the long time of play are most certainly contributing to the decline of golf.
My parents are in their 70s, been retired and playing almost every day for many decades. I think the things that sustains them the most: 1) they see the walking part of golf as a healthy way for them to walk and sustain their health. They’re probably one of the healthiest and mentally sharp 70-something’s that I know. 2) golf is a social game, and they have made many friends through playing over the years. This latter part is what I’d like the current golf community to be mindful of. Being friendly, courteous, and understanding of beginners as they are learning the game go a long way into creating a much better impression of the game and its players. Too many times these days I see rudeness and aloofness at the course that would be off-putting to beginners.
walking is the main reason i golf. its a long walk that i don't mind doing.
Golf is killing itself. The ridiculous prices they charge for equipment drives people away in droves. Drivers cost so much and people want to play with the best equipment but can't afford to. Green fees are astronomical. I remember when I started playing , green fees at the municipal course were 1.25 weekdays, 2.50 weekends. Yes I'm old. Now they are around 40 dollars.
I've played on and off since my 20s, and started to get back into it last year with a friend who said they wanted to try it. I'm also a lefty, so finding deals on clubs takes a lot of patience. That hasn't kept me from playing though. Each time I've stopped its been because my main golfing group stopped playing or it was my time to focus on family/career. Now that I'm a dad, I can take my kid out to practice. We have a set of junior clubs, but I think the part she enjoys the most is the post-practice snack at the clubhouse. I'm glad there's a positive association to the game we're building together. I agree with pretty much everything you said, if you do some searching, you can definitely play the game on the cheap, including lessons. It is an inspiring game, and it can be a humbling one, but if you take care of your body you can enjoy it well into your older years.
I found a driving range with heated bays. Spent an entire winter trying the same thing over and over again. I thought I was doing what you and clay ballard and others said to do. Truth is I wasn't. One day I actually trusted the club to do the work, lightened up, and watched the ball soar like it never did before. I love this game! I will never turn pro, I probably will never drive the ball 300 yards. It's chess in fluid real time motion. I am definitely lucky. Here in Milwaukee Wisconsin, we have a great public course system. There's a lot of different courses to choose from. Seems like since covid, tee times are hard to come by here. I don't see signs of that slowing down where I am. Have fun with it! Don't quit people, pivot. See what happens to your score if you try to lay up on every hole. Divide the yardage of a hole mathematically into realistic chunks of distance that will leave you salivating, not frustrated. Or just swing for the fences every time, I'll see you in the trees!
So you spent some time at Gastrau's? The MKE parks courses are amazing and cheap, but they can definitely be slow during peak times. Early mornings are best, but the twilight prices can't be beat. So thankful I picked it up again when I moved back.
I also appreciate all your instructions and talents. I am 73 and the local public city courses have just raised their fees again this season for the third time. They will not let you walk for obvious reasons. Expense is my biggest complaint.
Expense and time committment
Clubs are so expensive in Australia. Vokey wedge $270 Callaway Paradigm Driver $1100, New Titleist irons I just bought 8 T150 FOR $2200, A dozen ProV1 $72.00.. You guys in the US are lucky
Great video Matt... I recognized some of the holes at Willbrook having played there on our annual Myrtle trip...Maybe to keep the cost in line folks can join a local league?... We have a senior league (we're all in our 70's) that we joined a few years ago which we play for about half price and the course gets about 100 of us every week... This is for 18 holes but there are 9 hole leagues, evening leagues, mixed leagues etc.... In our case we've all made new friends, saved some money and have a great time.
Hey Matt. Love all your vids. I’m a fellow 51 year old guy. I haven’t quit the sport yet but have severely cut back on my playing time. I’ve only played 1 round this year. I only have so much time to allocate on leisure activities and/or hobbies. For the last year and a half I’ve become obsessed and addicted to pickleball. I can play for 2-3 hours, get a great workout in and get to be super social at the same time. There’s a bit of an up front investment getting paddles and equipment but after that the only real cost involved is balls and membership fees at local Y’s, pickleball clubs which is very minimal in comparison to golf. It’s not that I don’t enjoy golf but the hour plus it takes me to get to a course, 4.5 hour round, possibly lunch and drinks afterwards and driving back home. It’s basically a whole day shot. I can play 2-3 hours of pickleball, feel accomplished, competitive and social and still have a ton of free time left and plenty of money left in my pocket.
I’m 51 and play pickleball in Richmond VA…100s of courts in door and out. I still love golf.
Carefull not to injure yourself. Torn calf mustles are not fun.
comparing pickleball to golf is pretty apples-to-oranges honestly
@@milesstover3724 he wasn’t comparing it. He was saying he can get it done fast, more excercise and cheap…mostly free and extremely social. I play golf but watched my dad go from tips, to blue, to white to gold to red and now he really can’t play. It was like a constant reminder that he was getting old. You need to eat healthy and fast.
@@milesstover3724not comparing it. Just saying that I have limited time for extracurricular activities if given a completely open Saturday, I’d rather go play pickle ball for three hours and have the rest of the day to myself. I still like golf it’s just not as important as other things.
I haven't played in over a mont but that's because it's fricke. 106 deg here in Texas
It’s not 106 at 7am. Get out there early and you’ll be done by 11. I’m from El Paso, Tx, I know.
@@bloatedsodium7301 😀 at work by 6am
Hopefully the temperature will go down from the beginning of October….too dang hot to play in the summer.
Is it atleast a dry heat? Hot is fine. It's humidity that's the killer.
One way I've Spiced it up recently - Club Building! Built an entire "new" setup with used clubs I bought off ebay and at garage sales. Bought materials cheap online.
Started with regripping, then fitting, cutting & changing shafts based on my swing, and finally dialing in and balancing my swing weights to my exact preferences.
Turned out to be a fun experiment and I'm already eyeing my next iron set build after learning from some new tips and tricks to make an even better set
All great reasons. Myself, I’ve thought about it because of hitting a stall in my game. Needing lessons would help but the cost is challenging.
I think it's an age based thing to me. In my 20s, less money more time, and probably too competative with myself. In my 30s (current) golf got way more expensive so still money, and now time is rare with young family. Best thing I've done for myself is resetting expecations. Embrace the suck and slowly get better when I can, budget in some range + rounds a month, and don't let other golfers influence my experience. Golf is a challenge, but it's only with myself these days and it's made it way more enjoyable.
Excellent comment bro
Hey Matt, consider that in the last few years the game of golf saw unprecedented growth because it was one of the few things that could still be done during the Covid years. Thus I think those that are quitting because the game is too hard, it takes too long, it’s boring, etc. were never true golfers and never really had a love for the game. Thus, they are dropping back off the bandwagon. I suck at golf and have been at it for years but damn I love the game. If tee times are getting cheaper due to less demand because these “Covid era bandwagon golfers” are dropping out, I’m okay with that. I could use cheaper tee times. I can also do without the boozing, golf is only party, frat guy style golfers. Let’s keep it a gentleman’s game.
Gentlemen join frats and party as well
I love the game and still watch,
I just can’t justify the greens fees and their substantial increase. I also love a few drinks on the course. Especially when it’s slow. I wish it would drop off in Nj and make it affordable again. Unfortunately I’ve never seen prices come back down after being raised.
yeah unfortunately i have no idea why he said green fees are decreasing I work in a pro shop and this year has been the busiest in awhile most days with 300 players and not a single available tee time. Our rates have done nothing but go up like 3 times in the last 2 years@@bradpower9057
I quit for 20 years, I had finally broken 80, then my game fell apart.. I was too immature at the time to think I should get some lessons. Needless to say, I got extremely frustrated with my scores. Planned to just take a little break, then life hit. I took the game up again 2 years ago, and have been enjoying it more now than ever. Swallowing my pride and getting lessons helped. Now shooting low to mid 80s and getting closer to my goal of once again breaking 80. I think watching you and a few others since the advent of you tube reminded me of how fun the game can be. Thanks!
That's the problem you are worried about a score and not having fun. Go play a couple rounds where you throw the score card out the window. I haven't kept score in years and couldn't be happier when I go play
Very entertaining Mr. Short Game. The camera work was amazing as well as your ball striking. Thanks
I’m tired of 6 hr rounds and 20 handicappers acting like they are pros..
6 hour rounds!?
Dude, there’s a marshall for a reason.
If ur playing six hour rounds, it’s the courses and golfers not saying anything’s fault. Not the 20 handicappers.
@@escondidonative2903 right. If high handicappers were acting like pros, then it wouldn’t take them 6 hours to play a round. 😂
Goof
Says the 18 handicapper...
I'm an older golfer (67). I needed to start getting more flexible and a little stronger. My wife needed it too. We started doing Pilates 2-3 times a week about 18 months ago. No more sore backs and my flexibility is so much better. I say it's a game changer and so happy it came into my lifestyle.
I so appreciate your approach to golf and teaching. I stopped playing about 15 years ago. A huge reason was I didn’t get better. Took a couple lessons from guys who really didn’t seem to care AND when you have a line of retired guys who play well behind you on the 1st tee box only to sigh when you messed the 1st shot up…well you get the drift. I’ve picked it up again. It’s winter in Alaska so indoor driving range and simulator here I come. I just don’t want to be embarrassed. Being placed with others at the course scares the crap out of me. Need to get more confident
I just came back to the game after being gone for 20yrs. Bought my first set of custom irons in 20yrs. Kids were a bigger priority, now they are grown up and golf all the time and wanted me to get back into the game. Once held a 4 HCP. not so much anymore the swing speed is way slower once you hit 60. Now building a indoor simulator with the son in-law.
I love playing a round of golf all by myself, very relaxing. However, I absolutely hate being paired up with strangers, which in my experience is most often what happens if I book a solo tee time, or even a twosome. Absolutely my least favourite thing about golf. It’s particularly uncomfortable if you (or your partner) lack confidence or just aren’t very good. I wish there was an option (a box to check) when booking to choose whether or not you want to be paired up. I get that the course is just trying to maximize guest counts, but for the price it costs to play a round, the option should be left to the golfer. Can you imagine booking a dinner reservation for two only to get to the restaurant only to find out you’ve been paired up with a random couple to share a booth? Lol that would be ridiculous, right…?
Not in golf. In fact I like being paired with someone else. Besides playing golf sometimes you have a front row seat to some amazing golf strikes and birdie opportunities leading to camaraderie. Anyone can pick up the game go to the golf course pair up with someone and find golf companions very easily. I've given away my phone number more times than I can remember running into like minded golfers.
@@breeze787 Nothing wrong with that. I don’t doubt that there are many, like yourself that enjoy it. My position is just that it should be openly optional. Not everyone has the same level of social openness and should be able to golf comfortably, regardless. And shouldn’t have to be subject to dirty looks from starters and clubhouse attendants. Whether I’m in the mood for a quiet, solo round or I want to bring my wife out for a nice afternoon, just the two of us. Or maybe I’m catching up with an old friend. Or maybe I am in the mood to meet some new people. Either way, I’d like the choice to be mine. Also I find it’s especially rough on beginners. It’s one thing to stink in front of someone your comfortable, but to have to struggle around complete strangers can be really embarrassing.
naw just embrace it. 95% of golfers are crappy anyways, no one really cares if you suck as long as you keep up pace. ive def gotten assholes a few times but overwhelming majority have been cool peoples. i met my current biz partners at the local muni. ive played with golf course workers that now hook me up with free or discounted golf.
@@CAxALLDAY I hear ya. I don’t think that it always sucks to be paired up. But when it does suck, it sucks. Example, just last week I met up with a friend for a twilight round. Luckily it was just the two of us. Played a scramble and made it through the 11th hole before we had to call it a night. It was great. But had we been paired off, we would have been lucky to get through 6, and that would have sucked. I’ve also played many rounds with randoms that was plenty fun, that’s not my point. All I’m saying is that it should be optional. I don’t thinks that’s unreasonable
Would you be willing to pay double for the unfilled tee time? Because that’s what it would take. There’s no way the golf course is going to lose out on the revenue.
Fantastic choice of playing willbrook! Beautiful course with some of the best live oaks you will ever see!! Check the ponds you’ll see a gator or two
Great suggestions Matt. I love to play and stay in the Pawleys area. My greatest vacations with my kids were there.
I used the same technique to get my wife to allow me to buy a GC Quad. I started early around 2014 just talking about what the GC Quad can do and what golfers are paying for launch monitors. I brought the price up early and talked about it all the time. I also talked about what they were charging for lessons and then Costco had the GC Quad with a full simulator setup it was then in my wife's eyes the GC Quad was credible.
Now that I've had it for a couple of years I'm thinking why don't I just play golf with the simulator? No travel time, no green fees no drinking with buddies or long sleepy drives back home. I wouldn't be quitting golf I would be playing at home with drinks and snacks a plenty!
Turn it back into an actual sport..... LEAVE the cart behind, expend energy like a real sport. Let's see your score on the back nine after walking 3 miles. Cart golf is not golf.
The chipping practice on the tee box is a great tip. The course played extremely slow yesterday and I was playing by myself. I had a ten minute wait on every tee box during the back nine where I just sat in the cart and got cold. I’ll definitely take your advice the next time this happens. 👍
in canada, the new titleist irons cost 286 dollars each!!! i started playing when i was 7 and stopped when i was about 12, and got into music and girls. haha. i got back into it a couple of years ago after my dad died and i love the walking, nature and self inflicted pain! keep up the great work. greets from canada!
Good.
Too many hacks took up the sport during Covid.
Be gone. Give us our game and our tee sheet back.
Absolutely agree, the Covid time added lots of golfers to our courses. Wishing for the good old days.
@@francogolf i have to book 7+ days in advance if i want a morning Tee time.
Suprise off day tomorrow? Good luck.
Gave up golf many years ago because of the Scottish weather. Now retired in Spain and love every minute of my golf.
Lessons are huge. Ive been giving them for 15 years. Thanks to CZcams, people get so confused on there trying to improve their own swing, that eventually they come to teachers like me.
Great subject. I have significantly reduced the frequency in which I play. It may be for all the reasons stated by others or some combination of them. When I think of my primary reason to not play the game though, it’s my frustration at not getting better at the game. I watch lots of you tube improvement videos, I’ve taken lessons and really honestly, I’m getting worse. My handicap has been as low as 18 and now it’s up over 20. I’m just loosing sight of the most important part of the game, enjoying it.
Started playing golf at 10 y.o. I’ve had to retreat from golf for long periods due to career, family, lack of $, lack of time, but I’ve always returned to start over from scratch. I’m now 62 and play nearly every day. I play week day afternoons, week end tournaments. It’s easier to practice on weekends when the course is packed and practice facilities are empty
Holy cow matt! One for me is cost, My 16 week league is $575.00 now used to be $350.00 (9 holes, but get to play extra) Also there is lower cost options, i play this 9 hole course for $17.00 it is really well kept up. I live in Chaska Minnesota, where green fees will run a non resident $100 and now $70 for resident (with cart) At the local municipal. Chaska Town Course, but is busy all the time. Golf clubs can be as expensive or inexpensive as you want, but the more expensive stuff is better😊 One last thing, over the years i have ran into some vary rude people on the course and in clubhouse. Not me personally but seen people complain about slow play when ther is a novice golfer out ther.
Great drone video; quitters define social disorder, and many struggles families juggle; making golf time efficient can be done, as in 45” shags, 9 hole evenings, home golf room! Disability is tough work for many seniors & hard to fix. Worry that juniors never embrace because too stuck with nose in cell phones! Best sociology of golf ever, right here! Rhetoricals need be requested of all golfers so be aware!
Thanks, Matt - good video!
Hello from Oregon, it took me a year to hit the ball straight. I stayed with it and love it ! Thank you for the video.
Thanks for the Vid Matt. I am 51 yrs old and have two bad knees, left shoulder surgery and a C5 Verdabre that crushed and deteriorating and I got into golf 3 season ago; the reason I call golf season is because in my area I have snow for 6 months out of the year. I live in a rural area where we have no golf instructors and the closes instructors is over 100 miles away. So my golf lessons come from youtube and your channel, seriously. As mentioned by someone already, its the bandwagoniers that are complaining. Just like anything in life, a person has to put in the time and practice. I have always told my kids, in order to get good at something you have to practice, practice, practice and when your tired of practicing you practice some more. Golf is expensive, but as you have mentioned there are other alternatives and "off" brands (Takomo Irons less than $500 for entire set and their suppose to be good). The golf simulator your tried a year or so back, Swinglogic, which I bought and truly enjoy for less than $250 bucks, works great. Either way, there are inexpensive ways to buy equipment and clubs and balls and if any person thinks that to play a round of golf in a few hours is crazy, I ALWAYS count on 4 hours or more or they can be an early morning riser, like myself and get to the course when they open and Im usually done playing 18 in about 3 hours, that with warm up. All I'm saying is if there is a Will then there is a Way!
Great Video. Love what you do!
A back injury has sidelined me for years off and on. Finally getting back into it without much pain.
Great video, and great subject. I love the idea of not playing a shot you can't make. You're out there to have fun first and foremost. Thanks
Im seeing its the ULTIMATE time to get back into golf - cause so many courses are wide open. I like to play that 5pm-dark 9 set as many days a week as I can. Sometimes only carry 2-3 clubs and walk it. With SO much youtube instruction now you can get advice from people in europe or vice versa so easily. Also - new high-tech driving ranges with virtual golf and 2am bar are a great option.
great insight thanks, funny ending
I love everything about golf but I lost my golf buddy unexpectedly when he passed away. This video made me realize how much I need to play thank you
i have a couple ranges near me, it’s free to putt and chip, so if i don’t want to spend any money, i just work on my short game, which is where i need the most work. also, find courses that have tee times further apart, otherwise just enjoy the fact that we live in a country where we can enjoy this type of activity.
I grew up near a short course, and a friend of mine talked me into giving it a try (i was about 11 years old at the time, this was back in 1982). Early morning, summertime, a couple of us younger kids played with 3-4 retired seniors. Quite honestly, it was the most fun i've ever had golfing -- learning the game, getting better, and no cares in the world. Of course by the time i was 16 the parents made me get a job and that slowed the golfing down somewhat. But that's how golf was always done, for decades and even centuries before - someone you knew talked you into giving it a try, and you went out and looked like an idiot early on, but with friends that knew more than you to help guide you in the etiquette and rules of the game.
Nowadays, (likely helped along due to covid the past couple of years), you might run into entire foursomes playing, and none of them know much of anything because they all started at the same time, as green as new-cut lumber. And TV golf promotes this, because they want to "grow the game". The golf courses need the money, so they promote it too. And when the idiots get drunk and out of hand, no one at the club will tell them to never come back because they're afraid of losing that dollar.
I recently went on a trip to North Myrtle Beach and had the honor of playing a fine golf course. Except when i got there, i came to find out that the tee times were booked so tight, that they had rangers all over the place telling you to hurry up (and they were doing this even when there was no way you could go anywhere, which was incredibly frustrating). And when we got in, they rushed us right off the carts and out of the way so they could rush in the next group to load up and go. I'm a fast player, and even I didn't appreciate all this rushing about. But of course they did this so they could maximize play, and maximize the dollar. Golf is so big nowadays that the new players RARELY get to see the good side of golf - the early stages of learning the game, the ability to take time to appreciate it, etc. It gets everyone on edge. And golf isn't meant to be played on edge, unless it's a special tournament occasion. I think perhaps there's too many players now, for the golf courses that are available. Either we need fewer golfers, or more courses that are cheap, OR raise the prices so much that only serious golfers play. I don't want that, but the effort to maximize the dollar is definitely hurting the golfing experience.
FWIW, i would recommend any new player to hit balls at a range enough so he's not uncomfortable standing in front of folks, and go to the cheapest local course he can find, even if it's crap. And if you can, play with someone that has played and can tell you the little nuances of the game. If you can't do that, then play when there's no one around -- very late or very early or in the heat of the middle of the day. You need time to hit a ball, and to appreciate its flight and the miracle of actually hitting it perfectly, to enjoy golf at its fullest. And the more you can do that, the better you'll regularly hit the ball, and by default you'll become a faster player. But it takes time in the early stages (at least the first 2-3 years). You can't do that if you're under pressure to hurry all the time. Golf is a wonderful game, and i want everyone to see what's so wonderful about it the same way i do. But that's almost impossible with the hectic environment that's on courses right now.
Well said. Feeling rushed is one of the most poisonous determinants from the game
Great tips. Love those Channel
Love the drone footage. Really good video Mr SG.
Well this is my opinion, I love this game so much that I would sleep at a golf course. Morning is my favourite, the scent in the air, the greens keeper cutting the greens. That first drive or iron shot. everything is so beautiful. I think people are quiting golf for 2 reasons, 1- the cost and the cost of equipment, 2- they just don't play well enough 3-to lazy to practice and don't care about getting better. Man, but me I just love this sport. I'm 61 now and been playing for over 40 yrs. I live in a small town Ile-des-chenes Manitoba Canada Thanks for all the lessons you have given me. :)
My course is getting crowded due massive population boom. Play with many golfer types. I just tell them to be patient when they get frustrated. The cost of my retirement clubs were near 3 grand, but you can get used to start with. Lessons? You are my best teacher. Keep the lessons coming.
My take exactly... people are "quitting the game" because its too popular? WTF
Love these great tips! You ever nail that drone!?! 😂
Thanks for the video. Due to not hitting in the fairways consistently and when taking lessons, each instructor teaches differently that it becomes confusing. I get most of my golf supplies from a discount store so cost is not an issue. Courses around me are not expensive so that is not the issue. Again, not having fun enough through my inconsistency. Thanks
Practice lots and get in game shape.
Play early with the good golfers and move the game along in under 4 hours. Pick up your ball if you have to.
Buy game packs, discount cards, online deals to keep costs down if a membership doesn’t make more sense. Full pin greens fees are for suckers….
Finish up before noon, a quick beer and be home for the family before 1.
Repeat as many times a week as possible.
Time, Cost, Physical limitations: one easy solution: Courses should charge 1/2 to play 9. I would love to walk 9, but 18 is tiresome, especially with how slow the pace is. Walking is cheaper than cart, offers great exercise so now we are more fit and I have time to cool off after a bad hit. I could play 18 in 2.5 hours but 5 hours is what it takes to play the average course and waking for 5 hours in the heat leaves me exhausted so then I get a cart and join the traffic jam and forgoes one of the best and original advantages of golf: walking.
I have thought of quiting at times because of to many people playing. Making it hard to get on the course. That and slow people that don't know how to play that want let me through
Some great content. Good subject.
I got my first set at a Salvation Army Thrift Store; Knight Virahe. After a few years and I improved some I found Callaway's pre-owned site and purchased my current Diablo Forged irons. Slowly I have used that same site to upgrade my clubs without breaking the bank.
I am on the board at a non profit 9 hole club in small town Iowa. We have in the last 10 years, gone from a pretty good membership base of 150ish members to below 100. Our course turns 100 years old next year and have been desperately trying to get people back out on the course. A lot of the things I have heard are about the time constraints of children/wife. We used to have 30 plus people out for a stag (mens) night and more than 20 for ladies nights. both are now below 7. (had 6 for mens night this week). With the family time thing and an aging community I fear we will be losing our course in the next 15-20 years. We need a golf resurgence.
I quit once. I didn’t have time for it, especially with the extremely slow play in Los Angeles. But I started up again and now I’m playing the best golf of my life.
I haven’t so much quit, as more just not playing at the moment. I’m 41, and been golfing off and on since my teens. I’ll go through a long period of not playing, then will get a sudden urge to get out. The funny thing is I used to always get that urge after playing tiger woods on Xbox.🤣
The main reason I usually stop though is lack of access - most clubs in my area do their comps on weekends, which limits access to casual golfers looking to go out and play (and can’t during the week because they have jobs)
I worked in the golf industry on the Monterey Peninsula from the ages of 20-30. When I changed careers, I just couldn’t get myself to pay for golf on what I considered goat tracks after years of free golf in Monterey. I’m back now but that mental barrier was real!
Love your attitude towards the game, would love to just play a round with you as a new golfer
In my case, I didn't quit the game; I now play considerably less than I used to. For example, I went from 3-4 weekly rounds in 2020 and years before to less than 5 rounds in the last 2 years. Perhaps it was me constantly grinding and chasing par for so long, and in 2017-2018, the inflection point was a Lee Trevino interview. I applied his idea of 'hit it, find it, and hit it again.' His philosophy changed my entire approach to the game of golf.
I went from grinding over every shot to relaxing and just enjoying the game. As a result, my scores dropped from low-mid 80s to low-mid 70s. For example, I've played only one round of golf in 2023 and shot an 82. I love the game; maybe the grinding kept me wrapped around the axle for all those years. I hope to figure it out this upcoming fall.
I live in Southern California and I want people to quit!!! Since COVID, it has become super crowded everywhere. Getting tee times is now a hassle and you have to book 1-2 weeks in advance. Courses have increased times between rounds so its even crowded during the round. A ton of players play on the wrong tees, everyone wants to play tips/pros and can't even hit in bounds. There is also a ton of aggressive players looking to fight on course for hitting into or getting hit on or getting denied by cart girl.. New hackers get wasted and have no etiquette, no yelling fore, slam clubs all over course, etc..
I love golf, but wouldn't mind if less people played lol
Yes. Knee, back & shoulder pain. I played 6 rds this year before my knee went out. Then just as it healed, my shoulder went out for some other reason. I've had shoulder issues before. I'm 70 now, and you could say it's high mileage. So while I love the game, I don't love the pain. As far as golf gear goes, there are cheaper options, like most people don't need upgraded golf shafts, and most people can get a general fitting and then buy some used clubs off ebay in those specs.