2014 Lexus CT 200h F Sport 0-60 MPH Track Review: Hybrid on Track = Fastish Fun
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2014
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Honestly the 2014 Lexus CT 200h F Sport is more of an entry level luxury hatchback than a race-bread race track machine. But the F Sport is the Lexus version of BMW's M badge so Nathan decided to take it to the track and see if this hybrid Lexus is worth of the sport badge.
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For some people it is hard to believe that not everyone needs or wants a car with 400+ hp but want a comfortable, economical and reliable car that doesn't break the bank.
However, there is a whole lot of room between 99 and 400 hp. I love Lexus, but this car deserved a more powerful option. With four men in it even has trouble getting over hills.
@@JDYTC I agree. It is a bit low on HP.
As a practical and simple person, i adore the CT200H
i dont get all the hate... "F sport" is just a upgraded version with badges, new interior and some chassis upgrades. So many hates Lexus and toyota for this, but when BMW make "M-sport" cars and audi make "s-line" its apparently cool and worth it, they r doing the exact same thing... my god...
Because people don't get the difference between the Lexus F-Sport, which is a package with a sportier suspension, and some styling upgrades and Lexus F cars, which are high performance vehicles.
One of THE worst cars I've ever had the misfortune to drive. 0-60 in 3 weeks, and I've sat on more comfortable park benches. Build quality, interior, reliability are stunning ... naturally But the snail like performance is a killer. It's just a pointless car. You might as well get a used IS or even better, a used LS! ... and I love and have owned a Toyota. I only needed one car, because it lasted!!! Unfortunately for health reason, I can't drive at the moment.
@@juststuff5216 well I mean tbf it sells itself as a luxury Prius which it quite literally is
dont forget amg pack on 116hp diesel car
@@juststuff5216 why do you say it's a pointless car?
What Lexus could do in the F-sport model of the CT200h is that they could put the same hybrid engine from the ES300h and just call it the CT250h F-sport in order to give it that boost of performance to 200hp while still getting 40mpg combined.
+Ameer Hosein that would of been such a cool car.
Or the 2.0L turbo engine from the IS/NX 200t. It would be a bigger drop in mpg, but a major performance boost, which is what the F Sport line is really supposed to be about. I still would opt for the slow-ass hybrid. But I think having a real performance version would have saved the product line.
@@CaptainCocaine to be a CT200h it needs to be a hybrid. I have yet to see a turbo on a hybrid. That would be cool but probably be kind of weird to engineer.
i8?
I don't know how much space it has to put that engine
someone get this guy a glass of water. His lips are very dry
😂
I absolutely love my 2017 model (sadly the final model year in the US, and sadly mine isn't an F-Sport) which I bought used for $21K. It's a lot of fun in the city, and on the Mountain Roads that are part of my daily commute. There are unfortunately too many hills for me to do a proper 0-60 test on flat ground, but in Sport Mode with traction control off and going up a 2% grade, I've managed in in about 9.8.
My wife and I just bought one.. The CT200h handles nicely and is comfortable. We live in a city with crowded streets and congested freeways, and there wasn't much opportunity to ever use the ample horsepower of the previous car's V-8. We've enjoyed driving the little Lexus all over while figuring out it's little hybrid quirks and just noticed we've only used 1/3 of the full (11 gallon) gas tank that we had when we drove it off the CarMax lot two weeks ago.
If you don’t mind me asking, what are they selling for these days used?
@@smarticus6384 i bought mine for 13000€ sh with all the taxes and transport fees
So 0 to 60 is best described as "yes"?
So I bought a 2015 CT200h for a commuter car last year in 2021. I paid $18,000 and it has 120,000 miles. It still gets 37mpg and as far as I know still has all of the original batteries. The only maintenance, besides oil changes and tires on record is changes to tail lights and head lights. The car still feels like he describes it. I have enjoyed it so far and have gotten plenty of compliments about it. If you can find one that's been treated well enough and for a decent price I think it's a pretty good car. Knock on wood though. Lol
Such a shame because I really really like the looks of these. I am a big fan of hatchbacks in general and think these are really really good looking.
This car is quite good with autocross, the chassis keeps the speed through corners.
gf's sister has a gen 1 CT 200h. sitting inside it isnt bad, but as soon as you drive it, you realize it is just a Prius with some nice bits on and in it. Nathan mentioned the passing power is good, maybe the new F sport is slightly better tuned. but the first gen is hopeless, it can barely make it up any slightly steep hills with 3 people inside of it.
I have owned the CT for four years. Lots of savings on gas. Nothing to fix. Reliable. But drove like a cow ... slow ... soft chassis. Anyone who tells me this is sporty is unreal. For speed work, why this?
What does it compete against from BMW, Mercedes, Acura? You said good against its competitors...
I don't care much about high performance. I have 2005 Skoda Fabia with 75hp that makes 0-60 in 13 sec, so switching to this would already be a huge improvement.
Whether or not you like the looks or the CVT etc. is all down to personal choice but I would rather they made the F-Sport models more than just a cosmetic/handling change. The review hit the nail on the head with the car's biggest fault for more enthusiastic/track driving and that is it needs more power. It really handles well, especially considering the additional weight over a comparable competitor. Still, for everyday use, if you don't need a load of interior space, it is a cracking car..
So it is slower then the gen 3 prius?
I have the 2013 and love it way more than the newer one
my dad bought me one of those , sadly where i live they dont bring it with the black roof nor the 17 in wheels , but's still an f-sport
interesting, you could always get the roof wrapped black.
This car is quite fun to drive in the city. Small, easy to park, surprisingly roomy and thanks to the electric motor is peppy at stoplights. Highway is not as fun, especially when loaded with 5 adults.
I wouldn't pay $40k however; I think ~$32k is a fair price.
Trades46 paid $32k with loaded interior , not fsport though 2015 brand new, i thought i did decent
+Trades46 Yea, these things are like Apple products. The base model prices are competitive enough to lure you in, but the upgrades are incredibly overpriced. They level out over time in the used market, though. Buy a 2-3 year old CT and you'll save yourself $10-15k for a nearly identical vehicle. I don't particularly care for the new front end anyway. The original had a bit more of that "Timeless Lexus" look, while the new one already looks kinda dated to me.
Sadpants McGee I think the newer F-sport actually injects some style into the CT. I always thought the original CT looks a bit bland; inoffensive, but boring.
As for the "Spindle Grill" thing Lexus has a hard-on for these days, the CT & RC are one of the better interpretations. The IS & RX is a hit/miss, but the new GS, ES and GX are ghastly.
Does it have the prius engine?
why is the driver side door paint a different shade of red compared with the driverside rear? was that car in a crash in the past? or is that directly from the factory? the difference is seen at different angles so its not the lighting.
Good catch
Funny thing is that this thing has a strut bar front & rear lol. I hit a corner hard with dirt on it & the rear end swung but the front kept grip & I still kept going forward keeping my velocity, some guy with an ISF saw it & couldn’t believe it 🤣
I cant understand some stupid comments from ppl those think they gonna race with hatchbacks!!! ... this car made for one goal... gas efficiency... if u want a powerful car of you want to race .. go and buy some sporty car .... BMW ,Audi or Lamborghini..
I have mini cooper JCW with 300 horsepower... its really cool but am looking to buy an reliable car with low fuel consumption... believe me this ct200h much much beter than BMW and Mini ...
Why would they put an F-sport badge on it if there are no performance upgrades to make it alot faster than a normal 200h.
Handling, but because the suspension is "firmer" the ride quality is extremely compromised due to the small tires.
It would increase the cornering performance but, the lack of acceleration just makes no sense.
I don't know why people are comparing this car to a golf???? it's in a different class, in that case why not compare it to the new Civic type R?
2014 - 2016 model is the one to chose in the UK. That way you pay £0 road tax and have the 2014 upgrades!
Waited the whole video for them to mention the chassis improvement over the last generation or update..guess not then.
Remember that if this car was tested in Colorado, it's likely 4,000 to 6,000 elevation. A non turbo ICE loses about 3% power every 1,000 feet in altitude. Most other tests (at a lower altitude are also around 10 seconds 0-60 MPH. And this car is much different than a Prius. The only thing they share is the drivetrain. The suspension is much more sophisticated with a double wishbone rear. Much improved handling.
it also has 17" wheels. good for the look but not good for consumption and speed
Why? Why 1 mile above sea-level?
was that 0-60 time in sport mode or ???
I own one. Doesn't make a difference. Flooring it in any mode is the same. The throttle sensitivity curve is basically inverted in sport mode, so a light touch will give you a relatively strong response, whereas in Eco you have to put the pedal down pretty far before it gets more responsive. Normal seems to be somewhere in the middle, maybe a bit more towards Eco.
I drove one of these in 2011. Loved loved the car. Except it could't get out of it's own way. Fun to drive, only if it had about 100hp more. Turbo it...it'd be perfect.
why would you turbo a hybrid
@@bedhead-tb4qg You wouldn't. My point was, the wrong powertrain is in that car. It has the makings of a great little hot hatch with absolutely no get up and go.
Perhaps it would be better if Lexus gave up on calling it the F Sport. This nomenclature leads you to expect improved performance rather than a posh hybrid.
The car cannot live up to its sport designation and naming it for what it is rather than what you think it will be can only end in some level of disappointment no matter how good the car is otherwise.
It's the same thing with BMW M pack, AMG line and Audi S-line... just a marketing tool.
GTvisi0n When the premium badges, M,AMG,S etc. are used only as appearance packages then the underlying value of the premium performance series is eroded. If this continues the manufacturer risks losing the public's faith in its integrity and commitment to providing a sporty series. Loss of faith= loss of sales, not a good long term strategy.
Dan Troop You'd be surprised by the number of people who want an M3 but can't afford it so they slap M badges all over their base 3 series... they offer those packages for this type of people. I know several people who work in premium dealerships and almost everyday they tell stories about people who try to live above their means. Sometimes it's really dramatic. On the other hand some cars look quite dull without a sport package, like the new C-Class.
If they make a F version of the CT they should make it a hot hatch
I just pootle around in mine. It's comfortable, economical, reliable and looks nice.
It has a very small trunk, you should check out the BMW 1 series. Now that is what I would call very small.
I drive this during the week and my RC F on the weekend.
Who gives a shit
Most people will buy them new in the mid 30 thousands dollar rang. 40 grand is just too much. Nice ride through! Just don't waste your money on the F sport. I've seen new one's listed for as low as $ 31,900
Review LS600h L
that constant engine drone caused by cvt would kill me if I had to experience it daily.
It really only happens under heavy acceleration.
Lexus needs to be more careful on which cars they put their F sport badge on. To me, F sport is deserving on premium and performance cars, not on "entry level" and most definitely not on a hybrid.
Yeah they should have made the CT209h F a hot hatch
+swinglow33 918 is a hybrid...
+Ágoston Berkó You compare a Lexus to a Porsche? Wow.
42 grand for a less practical, slower, more complex Mazda 3 that gets worse highway mpg? Nah, I'll pass, Lexus.
Not to mention the shit interior. I was disappointed by it coming in with low expectations haha
That's why I bought a 3!
kirbyswarp Shit interior? What are you comparing it to? A Merc S Class? For the price, the interior is bang on perfect
The interior would be alright if the car was 18 grand. Bang on swing and a miss.
bandwagon240 For 18k itd be difficult to even buy the interior alone. Its very high quality stuff. Remember that this is a Lexus, its interior has never been called cheap or poor in any reviews
This guy is a big child. Obsessed with power and speed.
This is just NOT the car for him.
Awd plus manual and u got a great sports hatch to compete with vw
+SuperBombbud And a significant drop in MPG from losing the CVT, which the CT has the most responsive and natural feeling CVTs I've ever driven, at least in sport mode. AWD would be nice, though.
AWD adds weight and kills mpg
What is "race bread?" Lol
@Christopher.WalkenPNW LOL you are right !
imagine this with a GS450h engine
if you think you can't get arrested for speeding in this car you don't know how to drive
unbelievable. talk about all show and no go...
my moms 06 corolla is just as fast from 0-60...and it had less power to begin with(122hp), 8 years of wear and tear, and 103k miles on it.
For $40,000, the i3 and B-Class ED do look really good beside this.
This is even worse than a $43K for a IS 250 F-Sport with that monster 204 hp, 185 lb/ft torque 6-cylinder.
Bring on the tuners...
I like Nathan, but i sincerely wish TFL videos could be edited better to cut out the unusual amount (for car review videos) dead air(?) and wasted air(?). Eleven minutes when most will wrap in likely under six. Just a desire for more succinct analysis and opinions.
This car is not about performance in the true sense of the word, its more about economy, style and comfort with the F in F-Sport standing more for Faux Sport 😉 at least that's how I see it.
Where's the rest of the Nissan
Should have tuned the Prius powertrain to use Premium fuel, this is still on the wrong platform due to it's clown car interior dimensions.
why
I think I like the Mazda 3 better. Less money better mileage.
Agreed. I bought one.
Mazda sucks its not as reliable as toyota motor corporation. Lexus is luxury of course a mazda 3 is less money but its less luxury and less reliable
Lexus has better reliability, resale value, and better ride comfort and less road noise.
You missed the point of the car entirely. Unless your commute consists of empty roads with occasional traffic control devices and 60MPH speed limits, your "tests" don't reflect real world conditions. Take it on your normal rush hour commute and you will not notice a lack of power. Just use it is your daily driver for a few days and you will greatly appreciate what Lexus has done.
This car suffers of identity crisis. This is car that asks the buyer one question: Do you think an extra 5K over a loaded Prius is worth a nicer interior, much better handling, and a more useable hatch design? Lexus trying to market it as some sort of hot hatch is laughable, and a FSport even more.
$42,000? It starts at 33k on Lexus.com
They hate Lexus
+Matthew D'Elia You literally have to add every package and option to get it over $42k on the Build Your Lexus tool.
There's no need for a f sport hybrid hatchback
They should have put the 2.5 Hybrid engine no the Prius one
+atb102798 i fucking agree
Nate dogg!
Lexus, this car needs a turbo engine.
Turbo engine, manual, and you got yourself a good hot hatch
+Lexus Cohen They should definitely drop a supercharger in the F sport. Would probably have to have a different transmission, though. I doubt the Prius CVT could handle it.
This car bloowwsss
mmmh.... doesn't seem really sporty. For less money you can go for a Fiesta ST or a Golf GTI. Yeah, of course they're not as luxury as that, and they're not even hybrid, but sure they're funnier. And they won't consume much more petrol that the CT200h, on real world.
This car should be under 30k
Good Lord please learn to drive 😭😭 these cars are competitive on tight courses as long as you keep speed going and left foot brake
Andrea not speaking English lmao
Great video. I Hate the stupid loud music.
if youre a skid living in ass-shit nebraska this isn't the car for you.... if you live in la, nyc or any ass-shit city then this is a great car... i live in an ass-shit city and have a ct200 and it is very good.
i wish they would be more honest in the reviews and call it for what it is.
How bout testing non-high end cars, tired of seeing bmw/lexus/audi's, lets see some more common cars; cruz,focus,lancers,corolla's for us poor folk ;)
Rip-off
Typical for Americans/Canadians think everything is about alot if hp and being huge. Smh.
Why lexus. U could do better.
Bro u cant drive lol
Shitty car for that amount of money !!!
Rayaan Shaikh if u mean lexus is not a shitty car then indeed its awsome toyota is awsome period if u didnt mean toyota lexus and scion then nvm
Your clueless. never driven one. Shitty meaning not silly fast I'm guessing. better than any German overrated unreliable heap of shite.
sooo boring
Lexus is the absolute worst lol
F sport = fail sport
Slower than a Prius lol
get rid of the stupid grill and car .
tried it, no offense Toyota (ahem ahem...) Lexus,
this car is a peace of garbage, and to charge for it that much ?
it just shows how many ignorant consumers reside in the auto market.
if you buy if for the fuel savings, there are better alternatives. if you buy if for the quality of driving or better say the lack of it, then why bother....
It gets 45MPG. That's far from garbage. If you want performance you get a BMW but that eats way more gas than this and when not "racing" you waste gas and $ because no matter how slow you drive them you would get 15mpg with the twin-scroll turbo V8. Unacceptable imo and the BMW Hybrids cost $10k+ to fix when those fail.
The ct200h is a luxury version of the robust super reliable Prius Hybrid which should have more stars. Getting the non-F sport ct200h in silver looks great and is perfect size for me. I'm 5'3 130lbs and I kind of messed up driving "bigger" cars all my life. Maybe the super cars would be a perfect matchmake for my size and intellectual personality.. but only have driven the Porsche and felt that was "too" aggressive.
I'm more chasing efficiency than anything. Whatever is needed to get the job done as quickly and efficiently as possible is totally the way. Street driving.. 45mpg is insane. I think the new Prius gets more mpg but.. I said if I'm going to do Uber as a "career" I would get Lexus Hybrid. Full practical hybrid with a luxury appeal non-performance.
The problem with a fast BMW is you end up being lonely leaving everyone at lights. You end up getting like 3mpg doing it. You end up doing more wear and tear to the vehicle. The problem with an F sport entry hybrid is it kind of has a poser state.. unless you end up doing massive carry speed on racing softs and out cornering even the fastest super cars on ultra tight slow down corners but then getting left behind at the final exit corner...
Really though, no one really cares too much about the vehicle as it just is a hobby. If you get an expensive car to get girls, they, as a given want "free" things. As long as you don't get a really cheap car to the point where people think are you a 100% idiot and could believe nothing you say intellectually speaking wise, I'd say the Lexus ct200h 2011 is the smartest choice, unless of course you are 6ft+ and the car ends up being too tiny for you in which you should get an es or rx hybrid. Even if the car did 0-60 in 4 sec and did 200mph and looked GT it still wouldn't really make sense.. The amount of work to do that you might as well get a used F10 M5 or even an M4. This is why the Lexus ct200h should remain stock w/ no performance options.
That Lexus is a joke for 42K.
Slow, not very good looking, and gets ho hum gas mileage.
There are far better cars that can be had for cheaper that are far superior at driving......A Nissan Juke Nismo AWD comes to mind.
I had so much respect for this car... it's a piece of shit.
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