Ed Edd n Eddy X Kanker Sisters: Where To Draw the Line?
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LIKE if you thought Double D was a girl.
COMMENT if you never did.
I don't know anyone who thought Double D was a boy
I didn't think that but it makes sense in a way tho!!
Yeeeeaaaah I never thought Double D looked like a girl until you pointed it out
Never saw it. Still don't. I always saw him as a smart dude hiding something under that hat.
I just thought he was bald
Eddy would definitely try a crypto scam if the show where made today.
I can imagine the title now, "EDFTS" or "ED-Coin"
He'd make a Jawbreaker NFT
And NFT
The block chain is just Double D doing the kids' math homework in a box painted to look like a computer
@moon345 ed ed n eddy predicted NFT:
czcams.com/video/ewZqfxSfIT0/video.html
I do wanna mention that “Kanker” means “cancer” in dutch, we also use “Kanker” as a derogatory word. So the fact that theyre essentially called the cancer sisters feels very planned out
I always thought it was a reference to canker sores personally
@@idalwave Either way their presence means pain.
Interesting
@@idalwave It is that reference.
@@idalwave Same word, it just came to mean something else.
Danny Antonucci (creator of the show) did say that the Kankers were based off a couple of girls he knew in middle school that would harass boys into dating them, and that always scared him.
I understand where this animator coming from that explains it
That makes Mabel's boy craziness sound tame in comparison, Jesus.
@@FriedFrogLegsAnimations i want to meet these woman. And asking them well did you rape him as kid.
That makes them worse
I get it if the girls were fat and ugly trying to convince boys to go out with them, but if they're petite, attractive, and beautiful, I'd be stupid to not take up the offer in dating the girls.
The scene where Eddy makes the Kankers leave Double D alone at the end is one of my favorite moments in the show.
I don't know why but I love the trope of "3 girls, a bossy one, a mean/angsty one, and a ditzy one." It's found here, but it's also found with the Azula, Mei, and Ty-lee from avatar. Adagio Dazzle, Aria Blaze, and Sonata Dusk from MLP:EG:RR. Blossom, Buttercup, and Bubbles from Powerpuff girls. It pops up in quite a few things.
The Heathers musical too!
@@beththedarkmage3359 was gonna say the same thing
Why mess with the classics. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. My favorite example of that is from avatar so I’m glad you listed it
Dont forget the Squirrel Scouts Patsy , Nina and Grenchen , The TWT girls Jodie , Samantha and Freddi or rhe ones that started the trend the Chippetes Brittany , Jennette and Elenor
@@beththedarkmage3359 since you're already covered the musical I'll also save the movie from the eighties and also Mean Girls and the Mean Girls Musical be more chill kind of
Yes, the Kankers are the villains. They aren’t meant to be sympathetic. The problem, however, is that THEY ALWAYS WIN. They’re hate sinks, but The Eds only got one over on them ONCE, and that was completely reversed by the episodes end.
Hell, sometimes they’re just a Diablous Ex Machina to ruin the Eds’ victory in an episode they otherwise weren’t even a part of.
At least Kevin and Sarah occasionally lose. But the Kankers never pay for their actions.
Almost always. Plank kicked their asses one time. And I think other characters occasionally get the better of them when their distracted.
Well like he said towards the end, the creator based them on his own irl bullies and let's be honest most bullies tend to get away with stuff because adults usually aren't helpful; especially the further back in time we go.
@@Fitzftw7 people were entertained by it. we are all looking back at these shows with a thousand years of hindsight. not to mention a lot of these cartoons werent thinking about character development or story progression n some of the other things we expect from most media today. they were trying to create the most wacky, slapstick scenarios that give you a laugh. the show is also about these kids constantly trying to scam the other kids in the neighborhood, so a lot of cosmic karma befalls on them. we are only looking back on how weird the implications of these shows were now that all of critique media is analyzing it.
@@PaintedHoundie But they didn’t make me laugh. I always hated them. I just didn’t find their antics amusing, even as a kid.
The fact that they pr much always win is the one thing I hated about how they were portrayed when i was little.
One thing that always kinda bugged me about the show is that the Eds' "scams" are quite often not scams at all. Sure you have instances like the club house where they promise all kinds of ridiculous perks to try and get people to buy a membership, but then there are times where they put an insane amount of work in and only charge a quarter for participation. Those are legitimate attractions and services for a criminally low price lol
Never really noticed that. I guess that only makes them more likable though
They are good business men
Like the raft ride. I found that being called a scam to be odd. Maybe it's like the boy who cried wolf by that point
Yeah the only real scams are the ones like where they're painting baseballs and selling them as ice cream. But, the river cruise? They should've charged like $10, not a quarter lol
Honestly their worst scams are when they are trying to use fake food like paper plate and dandelion tacos or bowling pin cream puffs. The biggest issue with their other scams is the fact that their stuff falls apart easily so it’s more a public danger
"odds are, double D wouldn't have any friends"
I have to disagree with this. The other cul-de-sac kids treated Edd way better when he wasn't involved in pulling some scam.
So true.
Exactly. Like from here to ed
I'd argue that if Double D left Ed and Eddy he'd be part of the other kids group. Which I think goes to show how much he cares about them beyond the scams
Yes and all the girls liked him
@@TevanaZelta, Double D always tried to talk sense to Eddy, but until the Big Picture Show, he was too stubborn to realize it.
The Kanker sisters are the opposites of each Edds. Eddy is short, pink, straight hair, smooth taller of the group. Lee is tall, pale, loud and has curly hair, also Lee is the tallest Kanker while Eddy is the shortest in his group. Lee doesn't have a smooth voice like Eddy dose, her voice is more aggressive. Double D is more shy/ introvert of the group while Marie is extroverted/outgoing. Double D is what people would call uncool or lame whereas Marie would be considered as cool or edgy.
May is just Ed if he wasn't nice to people.
I wouldn’t call eddy’s voice smooth persay, at least not when he’s yelling. And oh boy does he yell often!
Another dichotomy between Ed and may is where Ed’s got a thing for sci fi stuff may might be the most genuinely invested in the romantic spheal the kankers put up.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah i agree with everything you said, i just couldn't think of another way to explain his voice.
Marie may also have more smarts than the other sisters, at least more resourceful.
I would say it's smooth like grease. Eddy has a greasy used-car salesmen type of voice, which makes sense given he's always scheming for quarters. I used to imagine he would grow up to be like Matilda's dad in Matilda lol
@@dae8665 well his dear old dad is a used car salesmen
I'm not sure how well the show is really in on the "joke" - like imagine if a trio of scummy female characters were harassed and presumably raped by trailer trash men (even if they are portrayed as villainous) as punishment for getting caught in, say, financial fraud. And then said guys wanted the women as their stay-at-home wives. The show would not air, even as an adult show.
@@five1470 That's the thing, sexual harassment is wrong, period, but a dangerously high amount of people seem to think that if you turn the tables, aka make men the victims [of women], it's alright, as if they "deserve" it, not for being douchebags getting their dose of karma, but for the virtue of having a penis. Hypocrites.
@@kou7191 yeah, a lot of men like to discredit men victims
@@xxchaotic1849 which is SO backwards to me. they're fueling their own demise...
@@xxchaotic1849 Women also discredit male victims too, as a woman myself i have heard many other women saying that the men who claim to have been sexually assaulted or harassed must be gay because there's no other reason why they shouldnt appreciate "having sex with a woman" (how they referred to the rape).
@@magicmush1998 It's the implication of the matter and contextualizing it in a more mature setting, not telling it how it literally went in the show.
The fact that the show knows the Kankers are bullies makes this more digestible
Honestly I think the Kankers kinda get some inspiration to treat the Eds the way they do from their mom. I know there’s a few episodes where they talk about their mom and they talk about the things she’s said to them (like how awful men are or that they always run away from you). Also note that the robes the Eds wore in the first Kanker episode were their dads’ robes and the joke of them having 3 different dads. I think their trope (obviously) was that they were raised by a “trailer trash” mom who couldn’t keep a man so they kinda lead by example by chasing and harassing the Eds because that’s what they think they’re supposed to do in a relationship. Like in that one episode where Double D suggests using reverse psychology against the Kankers and flirting back. They become disgusted and creeped out by the Eds, but when they notice that Eddy was still very scared of them they went right back to chasing and harassing the Eds.
Despite all this, I still think what they do is awful and that doesn’t give them an excuse because they obviously know right from wrong they just choose wrong lol. Anyways thanks for coming to my Ted Talk lmaoooo
That’s facts and the Kanker sisters got grown up and heal themselves to have healthy connections with ed edd Eddy without forcing the connections
Surprised you didn't address the Valentine Day Special where they gave May a love interest, but if you are just doing a quick glance over to their overall characters in the show I can understand. Personally think that is one of the few episodes where they gave anything outside of bully for one of the Kankers. It put on a spotlight for why I still think May is the good one and only redeemable one.
May showed some kindness here and there for Ed outside of vengeful. Sure, she chased him, but it almost made it look like she was following her sisters examples on how to behave.
Like you said, being the parallel to Ed, she is stupid and just follows what her sister thinks.
There was one episode where her hair is messed up, I remember distinctly she was more concern about impressing her 'crush' Ed. So Idk about Marie and Lee, but May might have actually caught some feelings for Ed. Just misguided.
And aforementioned Valentine Episode she gave Ed a valentine and show visual distress that he didn't take it. It didn't seem like she flick a switch on to be mean later, but she actually did care about Ed's opinion.
The other two Kankers are just bully characters with no redeeming qualities however. Funny karma inducing characters, no lie. May will forever be that unredeemed bully to me.
Exactly, I felt like they could actually work if they weren’t under a love spell. I think May was my favorite growing up.
The reason why the Valentine Episode works so well is that the relationship between the Eds and the Kankers doesn't feel so disproportionate. It feels more of an antagonistic relationship instead of bullying.
May and Ed are definitely the pair that would work to the absolute best if May got away from her sisters and I think if he gave Marie time away from Lee since the two of them buttheads the most maybe she'd calm down too because there were a couple of moments if I'm remembering right where Marie and double d had a little bit of chemistry almost more like The confident girl awkward shy guy thing instead of a assaulting stalker to their victim in certain episodes almost like he was able to go toe to toe with her but wasn't confident in doing it. May and Ed though, I don't know it's almost like a kind of weirdly wholesome stupid Love where they're both dumb but things would just work out
I wish that they brought back that specific character trait to May. I know it may have made the show more serialized rather than episodic but it's still would be good.
well the closest to reedemable Lee and Marie even get is in the Movie Finale where they alongside May ACTUALLY protect the Eds for once since everyone of the kids was out to get them.
3:15 I always thought the opposite. The other kids always seemed to view Double D more favorably than the other two. Eddy was the one they actively disliked, and on the rare occasion Edd was separate from the Ed and Eddy, they seemed to like him at least somewhat.
right because Sarah had a crush on him and was being nice to him whenever that occured and hell he was even able to hold a friendly conversation with Kevin on a few times
Your actually right, double D by default was the one that everyone liked along with Ed because both of those two have positive character traits the only thing they really hate was the fact that Eddy kept trying to swindle them out of their money and because those two were along with him in many situations they automatically just had direct hatred to all three of them despite their hatred would be more so towards Eddy
There's a difference between being friendly with someone and actually being their friend.
@@PandaLillie That's the point of the entire movie really. That the kids really always just hated Eddy because he was always trying to act like his brother and his brother was a colossal, abusive asshole. There are several times in the show where Ed and Double D can get along just fine with the other kids and it isn't until Eddy shows up that things get bad.
What anime is shown ai 6:21
6:16 "They threw in free lunch and TV so they stuck around." This is pretty much the hardwired natural impetus of every 12-14 year old boy that ever lived.
I think the romance between May and Edd was pretty believable in the valentine's episode. She showed she's a lot smarter than she leads on, which is what caught Edd's attention. She also appears to be more physically capable than her other two sisters when properly motivated, but she's usually bullied into submission.
There's also an episode where her sisters give her a bad makeover on purpose and she was genuinely upset thinking that big Ed wouldn't like her.
Sure, May engaged in bullying the 3 Eds along with her sisters, but if the show had explored her personality a little more we probably would've found that deep down she wants to be a good kid but has bad influences.
Don't forget that at the end of the episode it's showed that dispute the fact that Cupid Sara and Cupid Jimmy Arrows affectively removed, Edd was shown to have some legitimate feelings for May and is probably waiting for the right moment to make his move
Honestly I agree, the Kankers are the villains, and the point is that they are NOT a romance option for the Eds, the Eds and show make it clear "these are not what the Eds want and nobody is saying they want them" the show is honest about the Kankers being horrible. However my issue with them is when the episode just uses them as Deus Ex Machinas, something to solely exist just to punish the Eds. When it doesn't make sense to do so. They always win and the Eds are always helpless against them.
I think this should apply to Sarah as well, since she basically fits into "They bully you cause they love you" trope, where despite liking Double D has no problems abusing him or treating him like scum. Even revels in seeing him get pummeled. To which most of the time the show seems to forget it entirely, this coupled with her obnoxious yelling and aggressive tone and yeah she's basically just the Kankers minus the rape element. And no, Double D being part of the "scams" doesn't justify the fact that its still abuse.
The term is diabolus ex Machín a when something bad happens just because
When may falls for double d in school the show tries to paint it as romantic and tragic that they can't be together forgetting all she did to them...
When may falls for double d in school the show tries to paint it as romantic and tragic that they can't be together forgetting all she did to them...
@@razkable It worked in the Valentine special because they were under the influence of a love arrow caused by an alternate reality Sarah and Jimmy. They weren't in actual love. Plus May was at least more sympathetic there then everywhere else. But generally the show was good at using the Abhorrent Admirer trope to its advantage. Because the Kankers are bad people and the show communicates this. The Eds running away is a clear presentation of "These girls are molesters, you don't want these kind of people falling for you".. The Eds themselves always express how much they don't want it, and none of the other kids say they do either, because they scare anyone with their presence alone. Nobody laughs, but that's because nobody is suppose to laugh BUT them. Audience included.
Really the only issue with the Kankers is when the show uses them as an Ex Machina, something to ONLY show up to give the Eds a bad ending. And the Eds only defense against them is to run away. But if they are related to the plot and show up its basically dark comedy.
fuck no double d can do better than sarah
I also like how Eddy and Double D had “domestic slavery” as the sisters marriage goals, but Ed’s puppet was just watching tv without a care in the world 😂
Stupid is as stupid does...
Just like his Dad really...
"The school will tell Sarah, and Sarah will tell Mom, and Mom will tell Dad, _and Dad will just sit there and watch TV!!!!!!"_
@@balanc-joy9187 - Which, if I remember correctly, was a _terrifying threat_ according to Ed in that episode, lol.
@@KingBobXVI Yep, that's why I put that part in italics. It's near the beginning of the a video on CZcams here of Ed's funniest moments if you want to see it again. I know I do...
Well May Kanker is a lot nicer than her sisters so it makes sense. May is the only one who's close to being normal, and she also is the only one who seems to brush her teeth. If I had to ship any of them it would be Ed and May for sure. May seems like she could be a good person who's around a couple of bad influences.
One thing, as a kid, I got from the show in one episode: "I'M A MINOR! STOP!!" and looked at what Minor means. That's where I knew how screwed up the Kanker Sisters are.
Worse… Lee is 15, Marie is 14! and May is 13!
Were their ages ever confirmed?
@@EWOODJ I had to ask Danny myself for research!
Ok I had a OC who as nasty as she was, she refused to harm kids 12 and under… 13 and over are fair game!
11:15 ”Ralph"
Do you dare mock the name of the son of the shepherd?!
I remember the episode "A Twist of Ed", when the Eds were tired of the Kankers constantly romantically attacking them and try to find a way to get them to leave them alone forever. Double D decides to use Reverse Psychology on them, by pretending to now return their romantic feelings and thus harass them like they have done to the Eds. It actually almost works, since the Kankers run scared from Ed and Double D flirting with them, but when Eddy can't shake off his fear and flirt too they realize what the Eds are doing and use "Reverse-Reverse Psychology" to lure them into a trap.
And that's why I can somewhat take the Kankers for what they are: they at least get a taste of their own medicine, and you gotta admit, the creator managed to actually make that episode funny.
Ed's grin when he starts things off, and the hat full of sweets, will _always_ make me laugh, or at least smile. That, the beginning of the episode where the Eds get jumped (especially Ed rooting around in the drawer and not noticing May), and the part where Rolf is crushing the rocks just kill me.
Maybe Double D should have brought a pebble with him to put into Ed's shoe should things go wrong.
@@balanc-joy9187 I like the part when the Kankers ran through their wall and tried hiding there but Ed was already in there before they were and the silhouette he made in the wall always cracks me up
@@swordsnake305 "It's _dark_ nyhahaha!..."
(Cue more screaming from the Kankers)
Hilarious scene as well, for sure.
Even back when I was eight I could tell the Kanker sisters had no sense of boundaries and just did nothing but made the Eds miserable.
Years later those experiences taught me that both parties have to respect each other in a relationship. Also (this is me personally), but no bullies or tsunderes/ stalkers.
Edit: I know the Kankers aren't tsunderes, it just evolved to add that distrust.
The Kankers weren't Tsunderes, they were Yanderes if anything.
@@Dilbert1999 yeah they weren't, but my experience with this show and them did evolve into a caution against tsunderes.
this show did the opposite made me yonder for crazy women or yanderes if you will
The Kankers had my respect when they stood up for the Ed's when Eddys brother was Bullying them. That really was the moment that I accepted them as part of the cast.
"Except Plank. He's chill."
Casual reminder that Plank put the Ed boys through their own scam roller coaster and set it off, just to get his money back and send the trio packing. Plank is quite evil in his own rights.
Fun fact. If the Kanker sisters stand in a line, they form a perfect silhouette of Rolf.
Rolfe
So that's why he's so powerful, he's a fusion
Being reminded of that in this video cracked me up. X'D
They always looked like three dudes as silhouettes.
That Christmas episode for example.
Son of a Shephered*
Nah. I'm not gonna let you slander my boy like this. Double D would have friends in the cul-de-sac. He was definitely liked the most outside of the edds. Kevin would talk to him exclusively some times. He wouldn't be excommunicated from the other kids.
So true.
And he'd call Double D, Double D not Dork sometimes
I feel like even Ed would've also been more accepted and liked by the rest of the cul-de-sac kids if he didn't hang around Eddy.
Definitely in a lesser extent than Edd because of Ed's habits and overall weirdness. There are episodes shown, like Edd, where Ed shows he can get along with the other kids when he isn't lost in his imagination.
I actually disagree with your comment when introducing DD. He actually would be friends with Nas (and possibly date her) and even Rolf if he didn't meet Eddy first. It's been shown multiple times that the kids don't really mind Double D at all and he's even helped them against Eddy at times.
Rolf and Johnny like Ed as well so it's really Eddy that's the whole problem
@@kaimobley5324 Even as it may However........ I respectfully disagree because It still doesn't change or even at all ignore the fact that there were at least Some of them (and Its pretty much only kevin and sarah Who are the only two people Who Eddy in Return ALSO Could NOT Stand The most) So Yeah.... Not Really Counting Those 2 There Were Actually At least SOME Of Them Who were actually willing to give Eddy a chance
Like oh lets see here...... There's Rolf, Johnny , Nazz And Even Jimmy (to an extent) who are most of the time the LEAST Meanest out of all of Them And clearly not only Do they tolerate All 3 of the eds but are also often always friendly with them and most of the time they have Already made it perfectly Clear that they would Even consider ALL 3 Of Them As their friends As Well Too.....
UNLESS THEY DO SOMETHING BAD TO THEM FIRST
So Whenever all three of them (Eddy Included) don't do anything wrong to any of them first... then They would Consider ALL 3 Of Them As their friends As Well Too....
Besides Its pretty much only kevin and sarah Who are the only two people Who He Often ALWAYS Clashes with the most
So In Everyway its pretty Much Only Those Two Who Eddy in Return ACTUALLY Does Hate And Could NOT Stand The most
@@rafiftristanwcool4585 It's a month late but Eddy burns most of those bridges though.
Rolf with the insulting potted plant.
Johnny with stealing Plank.
And Jimmy is persistently targeted by Eddy.
When the other kids interact with Eddy it's largely when he's acting out of character due to severe injuries, extenuating circumstances, or because Edd/Ed happen to be there. I can't think of a single episode where any of the other kids willingly seek out Eddy. Eddy is always begrudgingly accepted.
This is especially compared to Edd and Ed who are sought out by nearly every other kid in the cul de sac at some point--exception being Kevin.
@@ZeroNumerous I think I recall Kevin seeking out Double D for something, or Double D flat out helping Kevin
The way the Kankers reacted to seeing Double D get literally nailed into the ground by Eddy's brother in the movie, speaks leagues about their true character. Getting Lee to gasp and stop charging at someone bullying “her man” is a detail never seen in the show proper. And there's also Marie screaming Edd's nickname in worry. The Kankers really do care about the Eds in their own twisted way. That doesnt mean their relationships would work, though. Just looking at the environment they live in is enough of a red flag to let you get that they've been damaged goods for a long time.
In another reality, the Kankers would have acted as surrogate guardians for the boys. :)
It was always kinda of implied that Marie had legit feelings for Double D, more so than Lee for Eddy and May for Ed. Of the three pairs, I feel Edd x Marie could actually work, especially since Edd would be the type to stop and listen to or talk out any problems Marie might have. Don't forget, he gave May a Valentine to make her feel better even though she's a Kanker and torments the Eds on an almost daily basis.
@@Ability-King-KK I think the show made it clear enough that Marie had genuine affection for Edd. She was legit seething in rage and jealousy when she saw him with May, and Nazz. She clearly showed legit concern for him when Eddy’s brother literally grounded him.
Edd and Marie in the show proper wouldn’t ever work given the nature of the series. Even in the finale, while Marie expressed real concern for him, nothing ever indicated Double D ever liked her one bit.
He is a nice guy so if she was going through troubles, he would likely lend a helping hand if he could to comfort her. But Marie (and her sisters) being so sadistic and twisted, along with their very clear enjoyment over how powerless the Ed’s are to stop their advances or torment stops any potential progress dead in its tracks.
I do think they’re a fun ship tho given that unlike Eddy/Lee and Ed/May, Edd/Marie are actually quite different from one another. And I’m also curious as to what about Edd does Marie find appealing.
One thing I didn’t like was when the Eds managed to pull off a scam that honestly wasn’t a scam (like the “Canadian squirt guns” which, yes, were turkey basters, but still worked as advertised, or their creek cruise, which was worth the price of admission just for Double D’s steel pedal guitar solo) and then the Kankers would show up and steal the quarters they earned just because the Eds weren’t allowed to win, even when they earned it.
I thought the Kankers just kissed them everwhere again at the end after sticking the Eds to the ground with their rubber cement.
"Lack of options" accurately sums most people's love lives
What's wrong with choosing someone that likes you back or first even if their a 5 out of 10 compared to going for a 8 and getting rejected or heart broken or facing the fear of possible rejection and even acceptance cause you never will feel adequate enough and surcomb to pressure of anxiety or insecure mistrust cause you are a 4.5 out of 10 and feel she is cheating or sees others as more attractive
*Yu000up ....
Lol 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@razkable what?
To quote Mufasa from The Lion King:
"Being brave is not just looking for trouble".
Just because you (try to) offend people doesn't make you a martyr for freedom of speech.
When you realize the three “Ed’s” have the same dynamic as the Plastics from Mean Girls. Eddy is the clear Regina, while Edd is the Gretchen, and Ed is Karen. (The Kankers have a similar dynamic, however, May doesn’t fit Gretchen too well)
Yes, i was hoping you would one day cover EENE! however don't get me started on the whole Ed's and Kanker sisters thing all i'll say is that while i think that the Kankers made good antagonist's i also think that they should've been in jail or juvy for all the times that they molested the Ed boys. But at least they didn't get the chance to do so in Big Picture Show in fact if i recall correctly many fans speculated that the Kanker's were over the Ed's after the incident with Eddy's brother...and of course there was the episode where Eddy yelled at them, which i was actually proud of Eddy for doing that because not only did he stand up for Double D but he finally got angry enough to finally stand up to the Kankers and amazing for once they took a hint and backed off too bad it only happened once though...but anyway those are my thoughts.
I want to hit like, but 69
Blaiktrout Look again, he's got 128 likes now.
The way I saw the kankers going after eddys brother was just to avenge eddy not for any sexual gratification on their parts but to humiliate eddys brother because of what he did to eddy.
@@lilmsweirdo2016 i'm also glad that in the finale instead of being rapey-antagonists, they actually went out of their way to protect the eds for once
@@Du-yw1pz One might call it protection, another might call it ridding themselves of a rival predator. Oftentimes in media you'll see bullies who take on other bullies to establish that their preferred targets are off limits to anyone else.
With your takes on Chowder and Panini, and now the Eds and the Kankers, I'm really interested in your perspective on Timmy/Tootie (and maybe Timmy/Trixie) from the fairly odd parents. That is, if you haven't already talked about them (I'm a bit new to your channel haha, big fan so far)
I think Timmy/Trixie is the better romantic option for Timmy since it's healthier. There is this episode where Timmy transforms into a girl and hangs out with Trixie the whole day and they genuinely hit it off and become friends; this kind of thing never happens with Tootie
@@prospitdreamer yes I love that one! It's just sad that they never delved into that side of Trixie ever again. I know ppl don't go to FOP for character arcs, or even character consistency, but I still wish they hadn't dropped that whole thing with Trixie. Still, like you said, Timmy never really had any moment like that with Tootie if I can recall. Mostly just Timmy giving in to her obsessiveness because he felt bad for her.
@@prospitdreamer the fact is in channel chases the canon ending to the series cause its a flash forward he married tootie...trixie will always be sadly a selfish snob and timmy just will never be able to win her over
Honestly can't help but feel bad for Tootie. With a home life like hers, I can almost understand her bad understanding of boundaries.
@@tidepodpadthai2633 thats also very true! Tootie has such a miserable home life, so it makes sense that she would find one person/thing that brings her happiness and then never let it go. Plus, she's only 10, so that's probably a big factor there too. She probably won't stay the same obsessive stalker forever. But still, at the same time, it seems Timmy will only give her the time of day when he's feeling pity for her, which is also understandable tbh. Tootie has a really bad home life and I feel bad for her but I also don't think Timmy's wrong for not wanting to be around her, ya know?
Even though the show is episodic, you may notice that after the episode where the Kankers trap the Eds into "marrying" them, the Kankers will exclaim "it's our husbands!" then they see the Eds, when before they would say "it's our boyfriends!"
When it comes to Marie in fandom, she always gets tight cast as the tortured artist with a heart of gold she going along with what her sisters want
Yeah because She hot, not in pedophilla
It's ironic cause that applies to May way more. It's clear Marie is just as mean as Lee is. May is the only one who is friendly when separated from her sisters.
@@FSAPOJake Oh this old head canon again.
Last time i checked May loves bullying people just as much as they do.
What I really like about this show is that everyone is pretty flawed and kind of a bunch of a-holes. The Kankers work so well here because they're like if the Eds turned bad. The show actually acknowledges that they are bad people. Apparently, their mom is also a misandrist who had three husbands in the past, so that explains their antics.
Also, apparently Marie is supposed to be like Double D regarding intelligence, so there's that.
Edit: I had a massive crush on Marie, but I knew that she was a bad person. I only liked her for her looks and voice, but the fact that she was essentially a bully was always clear to me as a kid. That's how you know something is done right. Not saying you can't ship, let's say Double D and Marie together, but let's be honest and say we all know that in the actual show, she isn't supposed to be a good person.
Also, i loved how messed up this show got with its humour. There's even a line in "Once Upon A Ed" where Eddy screams "I'M A MINOR, STOP!" I think this is where my dark humour originated from and it's why I love flawed and morally ambiguous characters. Always Sunny is a good example of this.
Same here, I love that about this show. Also, you reminding me of that line made me snicker, especially since it is re-used in _X Mark The Ed_ and the part at the end where Eddy's head gets shrunk kills me quite often!
Wait their mom was a misandrist?
Actually, their mother having 3 husbands may be the perfect explanation as to why they don't look like eachother.
They all share a mother, but not a father.
@@chaoticgoodcreations947 Maternal Siblings
One aspect about Sarah that also makes her terrible is her crush on Double D. The Kanker Sisters get a lot of flak from people online, and I don't like them either. But tbh, the Kanker Sisters actually do work with what they are going for. For all intents and purposes, they are G rated Rapists, but the show NEVER portrays their attempts as being 'funny" or "in the right" in fact it was treated the opposite way. The moment they appear onscreen everyone treats them as they should, why would you want to be around a group of rapists who also love lording and abusing people? In a way the show itself is stating that these aren't people you want to be around, actively showcasing that what the Kankers do are wrong and is treated as so awful the Eds would rather face the Kids than them as shown in If it Smells like an Ed! Even with their crush on the Eds, again it not played as funny or in the right, the whole joke with the Kankers is that while they are the ones laughing, you aren't because nobody would find sexual assault or abuse funny other than the ones doing it. The main flaw with the Kankers was when the show used them as Diabolicus Ex Machina people who just exist to force a bad ending on the Eds. Which even gets downplayed.
Really the only time I found the Kankers as polarizing as the internet was their usage in the school seasons, which I DO agree was Seasonal rot, unlike what many fans/critics say. Because in these seasons, not only are they irrelevant, but when they do show up for their main shtick, that aspect about it is played completely straight. The prime example of this is the episode where school is first starting and the Eds are FORCED by the Kankers to say they love them in front of the kids while the kids begin to tease and mock them, almost suggesting that the show thinks it is funny, when the entire point of the Kankers purpose was that nobody found the Kankers funny other than the Kankers themselves, the kids would even run from them. There's also the episode A Town Called Ed where Kevin uses the Kankers to molest the Eds as a way to give them their bad ending, while the kids, again laugh at them.
When it comes to Sarah however her crush on Double D is written in a way to show she has a "good side" and is played as cute. When she regularly abuses Double D as much as she does Ed, and this isn't even a Kevin case where its outright implied if Double D was never associated with Eddy or scams, he would be cool with Double D. No, even in moments where it's just Double D, Sarah just treats him as she would Ed and her excuse about "not going soft" isn't an excuse, it feels like the show would often forget about her crush unless it was relevant for the plot. For example, the episode where Double D needs a shower, how does Sarah treat him? She tells him to wait 3 weeks in a way that comes off as she's lying, then when he becomes frantic beats him with concrete, or the episode where she is sick, while Double D helps her, she spits at him when he tries to help her. And sure, she can put him in his place during moments he deserves it, but her crush on him is just abuse. It is literally the "bully because they love you trope" and in Sarah's case it is portrayed as cute since she giggles and is used to show a "nice" side to her, but just makes her more of an abusive shrew. To me this is why I find Sarah's crush on Double D to be worse than the Kankers because with the Kankers it isn't used as a way to force sympathy or played straight, they are played as wrong and treated as wrong for doing it.
Yeah never really had much of a problem with the Kankers since they were always the antagonistic force. So you know even the writers think they are really creepy and messed up.
Danny actually based them off of some girls he knew when he was a kid, so it hits right close to home for him.
It's real and what's funny is they are older
It always worked comedy wise but like he said that episode with the marriage ceremony was pretty messed up...not funny at all
@@KaliFlesh every time i heard the story. I want to meet these woman and asking thing like did you rape him. Did you guys a bad childhood
I actually think Marie is the smartest of the Kankers. Maybe not on Edd’s level but she was able to tell the urban rangers were playing possum when they had to rescue Ed.
Rolf: Stay steel. That they can smell fear. 😵😵😵
Lee: Get a shovel, May. Looks like we’ll have to bury them. 😒🪦⚰️
May: Forget it. My Boyfriend need some loving. 😊😄❤️
Marie: Hey wait! These guys are faking! 😠😡👿
Johnny: I’m gonna wet my pants👖😰😥
Eddy: (Laughing😂😂😂😂😂😂)
Me: (Laughing Along With Eddy:😂😂😂😂😂😂)
The thing I always find disturbing is how often I see people acting like the kankers are good characters. Even if they're not meant to be sympathetic, they still have the highest win lose ratio of anyone on the show. And I especially find it disturbing when people act like the Eds should eventually get together with the Kankers, as if that would in any way shape or form be a positive thing for them.
A great way to gauge how poorly something has aged is to ask oneself, "Would they have even aired this if the genders were reversed?"
I would just to be based
And we both know so many dudes are starved for attention that's why they like the Kankers
Not really; that's only going to apply when talking about very specific people. It's a very vocal minority that would be upset with the roles reversed but not upset with how it is now. Have you seen a single person defend how the Kankers acted? Because I certainly haven't; almost anybody with a brain realizes how problematic they are. I don't understand why people have to say "if the genders were reversed!" or "if the races were reversed!" with respect to so much media; it is such a tiring view that doesn't add anything. Just point out how bad it is and don't compare it to something that doesn't exist (even then, shows like Johnny Bravo exist which are very similar to what "wouldn't air").
That does not in no way mean it aged poorly. That means that society aged poorly. (In a way. I could have worded this better but you get the gist.)
No its not, some things wouldn't get aired regardless of this. Something like this could still get released today, just not on regular saturday morning cartoon times.
You could make the argument with the Rowdy Rough Boys from The Powerpuff Girls. Yet their first appearance is one of them most beloved episodes in the entire show.
They did a good job making the kanker sisters unlikable. Even as a kid I hated them when they were harassing the Edd's.
Not going to lie I laughed at some moments but at the same time I knew it was messed up.
I was the opposite I always had crush on the blue haired girl
As a kid I loved cartoons, but I never laughed out loud at the jokes and slapstick, it was just fun to watch versus just being funny. But oh boy did Ed, Edd and Eddie hit a home run for me, it was the only cartoon I ever laughed quite literally out loud at, maybe it was because the Ed’s themselves aren’t good guys, so it was satisfying to see things back fire on them. I loved this show.
Ed and Edd were good guys
Something I've noticed that no one else ever seems to bring up is the horrifying implications of the Kankers' home life and how that would affect their development in this direction. Literally, the first episode we see them, we find them living in a trailer, and it's established that each of them has a different father. This shows not only that their mother is unable to maintain a stable marriage, but also carries the very strong implication that she is, in fact, a prostitute, stripper, or other form of sex worker. If anything, her possession of monogrammed bathrobes from her exes suggests she's done work in pornographic films. Worse, their proximity to their mother's unsavory lifestyle opens up the very real possibility that one or more of the sisters might have been molested at some point. But even if we ignore _that_ potential factor, the fact remains that a single sex worker raising three daughters without a stable home life and constant exposure to the seediest aspects of human sexuality cannot be conducive to a child's mental health or understanding of normal, healthy sex/gender relations.
When you take those disturbing factors into account, the Kankers' behavior begins to make a lot more sense. Whatever their interactions with the Eds, be it standard bullying, romantic fawning, or outright sexual harassment, it all stems from them having a dysfunctional frame of reference caused by their poor upbringing, parental neglect, observation/imitation of the many dysfunctional adults in their lives, and potentially their own sexual trauma. The fact that something this complex and dark was worked into a cartoon I watched as a kid blows my mind, and I love it.
There is another possible way of interpreting the mother's relationships. Intent as opposed to failure.
Since around the 80s there has been growing financial incentive for poor women to have children with as many different men as possible and to not get married. There are a few reasons for this.
For starters, regardless of economic background, women almost always get custody of children and the child support for each child is higher when it comes from a different father. And this money, being for the care of the child rather than the mother, does not prevent the mother from getting access to Social Services.
If a woman gets married to a single guy and had multiple children with him she wouldn't be able to get help from programs like social security or food stamps because his income would decrease her eligibility. This applies even when a man runs off since they are still married.
As long as they aren't married though she can maintain an active relationship and it won't affect her income.
So maybe their mother is one of these types. Serial monogamist, never gets married on purpose, lives on child support and Social Security, and maybe that's also why these girls are so focused on securing a mate. They know that it's more important to have babies then get married for their own Financial Security. At least according to how their mother lives.
This of course isn't to say that a person needs marriage to have a stable relationship. The fact that over half of all baby boomer marriages ended in divorce and that most Americans today grew up in literally broken homes explains why marriage is not a high priority for many people anymore.
What the hell have yall been reading that I havent this is a genius analysis
@@kesegoe9488
Honestly, it was just a pattern I noticed early on during the show's run that only really started making sense during my last years in high school, near the end of the show's run. By that point, I had already concluded that the Kanker's mother was a prostitute or something, and that that dysfunction explained a lot of their bullying. It was only while I was composing my OP, however, that I made the connection between the monogrammed bathrobes and the porn industry.
@@Elliandr
You raise a fantastic point. Frankly, I think the scenario you suggested likely overlaps significantly with mine.
@@Xbalanque84 oh, there's definitely an overlap. The key difference is that in my point her lifestyle doesn't necessarily have to be what you suggest. She doesn't have to be involved in prostitution and such to end up with a home like this.
Although, now that I think about it, are any of the parents ever around for any of the children? If my analysis is correct it begs the question where the mother is all the time. She's clearly not pulling a normal job, so what is she doing with her time?
It's like watching the 3 Stooges get harassed by the 3 witch sisters from Hocus Pocus.
You just summed the whole shebang up PERFECTLY. Danny Antonucci the creator even said he was greatly inspired a lot by the Stooges.
I Actually Never Thought Of It Like That Till Now Since You Even Mentioned It That It Does Make So Much Sense Though To How The Eds Are Like The 3 Stooges & The Kanker Sisters Are Like The 3 Witch Sisters From Hocus Are All Very Similar To Each Other But Just Different To Each Other With Different Personalities. Imagine If The 3 Stooges Met The 3 Witch Sisters In A Tv Show Or Movie As A Crossover Where The 3 Women Sexually Harass & Assault The 3 Guys In Their Own Fun Lovey Dovey Type Ways Just Like The Kankers Normally Do To The Eds. Would Love To See Something Like That Honestly. Not Gonna Even Lie Lol.
From what I remember of the show, the Kankers *are* giving some humanizing characterizations. From broken homes looking for escapes find their perfect husbands that work as their idealizations, and using the examples from their own lives to base their actions towards the Eds on.
And while they are primarily treated as villains or the antagonists throughout the series, there were sometimes hints at it either being not entirely one sided or that, though reviled, that they were just *kids* as messed up as everyone else if not more so.
Also oddly pushing for the dumbest of the two trios to get together, and a odd love triangle between Marie and Edd and Nazz.
But I admit that my memories are a bit fuzzy and I could be misremembering bits of scenes of the show from so long ago.
You're absolutely right. The Kankers don't even know their dads (they're half sisters after all) and it's obvious that their mom just works 24/7. It doesn't excuse their over assertive behavior or how they strong arm the Ed's into being their "boyfriends", but it makes sense when you consider that their mom probably drove away each one of their dads by treating them like shit. In short, it's all they know.
Something I've noticed that no one else ever seems to bring up is the horrifying implications of the Kankers' home life and how that would affect their development in this direction. Literally, the first episode we see them, we find them living in a trailer, and it's established that each of them has a different father. This shows not only that their mother is unable to maintain a stable marriage, but also carries the very strong implication that she is, in fact, a prostitute, stripper, or other form of sex worker. If anything, her possession of monogrammed bathrobes from her exes suggests she's done work in pornographic films. Worse, their proximity to their mother's unsavory lifestyle opens up the very real possibility that one or more of the sisters might have been molested at some point. But even if we ignore _that_ potential factor, the fact remains that a single sex worker raising three daughters without a stable home life and constant exposure to the seediest aspects of human sexuality cannot be conducive to a child's mental health or understanding of normal, healthy sex/gender relations.
When you take those disturbing factors into account, the Kankers' behavior begins to make a lot more sense. Whatever their interactions with the Eds, be it standard bullying, romantic fawning, or outright sexual harassment, it all stems from them having a dysfunctional frame of reference caused by their poor upbringing, parental neglect, observation/imitation of the many dysfunctional adults in their lives, and potentially their own sexual trauma. The fact that something this complex and dark was worked into a cartoon I watched as a kid blows my mind, and I love it.
@@Xbalanque84 didn't I just read this exact comment on a different thread.
Actually the kankers are teenagers…
@@TechnoHajikelist: Everyone under 18 is technically a child, but you're right. I'm pretty sure they're the same age as Rolf who is probably 14.
The Eds do seem to like the idea of being the object of the Kankers' affection in their debut episode and there was also the Valentine's special where Edd seems to like May, but I imagine part of the issue is that the Kankers come on too strong because of their terrible household. It's implied that their mother has had each of them with three different men, all of whom have run off, and I suppose the Kankers see that as the normal for a relationship. It's why they get freaked out in the episode where the Eds actually start showing them affection and interest.
> A lot of people thought Double D was a girl
> Mary had a hard crush on Double D
Game Theory: Mary was part of that people and she was a lesbian all along
Honestly, the Valentine’s episode made me actually like double Dee and May as a thing, because she seems to be the more nicer of the sisters. I know they were under a love spell, but I could seem them getting along a lot better then the others.
Keep in mind, this girl chasing mindset is a childish mindset and should not be used when one gets older.
I remember liking that episode as a kid cause May wasn't being creepy in it.
I also remember Double D keeping the Valentine's day card May gave him at the end and thought that was cute.
They should have made that a theme in the show.
Yeah, May always seemed like the least creepy. But that's like saying omicron is the least awful form of covid.
@@WobblesandBean I’m pretty sure if Marie ever got an episode without her sisters, her Edd reflection would shine.
I honestly like most Kanker episodes where they are actually part of the plot and aren’t just used as a Deus Ex Machina device.
Home Cooked Eds
Once Upon An Ed
O-Ed-Eleven
Ed Overboard
Run For Your Ed
A Twist Of Ed
May I Have This Ed
Fistful Of Ed
Valentine Special
Also really liked them in the movie since it was the other kids suffering their wrath lol
As someone who didn’t grow up with shows like this, rather your later 2010s+ shows, it is so interesting how these types of relationships/interactions differ and are portrayed. I feel with kid centred shows, creators hold a responsibility. And even when abusive/toxic characters are portrayed as a joke there needs to be a clear or distinguishing line or message that those people are not okay. Because not all kids can make the connection. Especially with some tropes “they bully you because they like you” some cartoons like to do. So even when you make clear jokes you are not quite clear from your responsibility. I’d love to see your take or other comments, because especially in lgbt shows super toxic relationships are held in high esteem. Like as much as I wanted catadora to be a thing, that relationship was 😬 and I’m not sure how to see it now that I’m not a preteen anymore.
Oh my god, same, I didn't really grow up with the early 90s - 2000s shows because I was too young to get it and a lot of the tween shows were near the end of their airing, but a lot of the shows that are now deemed as kinda problematic or have red flags as jokes (Proud Family is one I remember in memory that gave me "nearly everyone is unpleasant as hell" vibes, guess I dodged a bullet) are not easy to sit through when you look at it as an adult and realise a lot of the mean-spirited jokes or themes were written by adults to show to children, who'll learn from these characters and apply to their everyday life, ESPECIALLY when the show itself never punished said characters for crossing the line and always making them emerge from the episode scot free. I'm honestly glad my intuition helped me out and I had 2010s show to build my childhood.
All sizzle, no steak. No wonder modern media is boring.
I mean, I thought as a kid the show was making it pretty clear that they were being bad people just by how the Ed’s so constantly and vehemently were terrified of them.
@@jessoliveiro8975 as someone who did grow up with those 90's-00's shows, I can assure most none of us thought any of the antics were serious. We all generally understood that the "mean spirited-ness" was just exaggerated cartoony nonsense, and even then they still made sure to throw in the usual lessons on how to be good person (and often times the mean spirited-ness was also more of a warning in the form of comedy) which is why it confused me to see it as a complaint by ppl comparing it to 2010's and later stuff. Personally that's what made me kinda fall off more recent toons, many of the more popular ones definitely seem like they're going too soft. There's still gems that keep that enjoyable balance but most of the ones internet folk rave over seem to try TOO hard to be "feel goody", if that makes sense.
@@StarryOak76 oh yeah for sure! I just know myself and other kids had a LOT of nativity or misunderstandings so it could be hard to distinguish when someone was actively joking or being a bully 😅. I never watched EE&E but I can imagine those girls were scary 😭
Plank wasn't chill all the time, I remember him as a demon lol
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the reverse psychology episode to drive home the point that the Kankers are bullies without any real feelings of romance toward the Eds.
I never really watched Ed Edd n Eddy growing up, but from what little I did (even before I properly knew what sexual assault was), the Kankers always rubbed me the wrong way. Thanks so much for covering this. I guess it’s not as bad as the previous Chowder video since the show never outright condones their behavior or canonizes the ships (I choose to believe, based on Big Picture Show, that Eddy ended up with Nazz), but it’s something still worth critiquing.
well she did kiss him after he admitted the truth about his brother to everyone so...
@@Du-yw1pz True. Except for both Johnny & Plank when they weren’t there to see Eddy’s sad dark life with his Brother & was too late to ever knew the truth about Eddy’s sad dark life of getting abused by his Brother of having to the chance to know about after the Kids beat the hell outta both Johnny & Plank for nothing & they didn’t even bother to have at least Johnny what was really going on in the first place. I honestly never liked how that went bad for poor Johnny by being the only one who didn’t get no happy ending when the movie was over with. Still hate the ending of the Big Picture Show Movie though till this very day.
Eddy: I’M A MINOR!! STOP!!! 😱
Only during the 2000s could you have gotten away with that in kids show. But yeah, that sentence really hammers home how gross and creepy the Kankers were. It was one of a couple South Park esque moments of humor the show had.
May Kanker: Oh For Pete's Sake He's An Minor He Doesn't Deserve That Even Eddy Knows It
Aight, you hit me out of nowhere with this one, and I laughed quite a bit with something so simple.
03:36
3:02 that would be a perfect reason to make the Eds women and the Kankers men. We could make an experiment:
Base: people tends to be more serious with men stalking women than woman stalking men.
Question: if the stalkers were men, the show would be canceled?
Sorry for the bad writting. I'm from Argentina and I'm 13 years old :/
I honestly can't tell if they are Bullies or they are Madly in Love with Them,I might chose the Love Part.
Why not both?
Love but their sadist fun to bully overrides any sense to treat the Edds well.
Love makes you treat people well.
Love means you often care more about their wellbeing than you do your own.
Thats why people will put up with shitty abusive relationships that hurt them - they love them. They dont see the abuse as much as they should.
The sisters are just playing at "love".
they’re… infatuated… that is not love. and it’s sexual harassment
@@genehen6495 not necessarily, that's just one way of expressing love, love can also be expressed in a more sadistic possessive way, it's toxic as hell and if you meet someone like that you better run, but that can also be considered love
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT DOUBLE D WAS A GIRL??? YES, I NO LONGER FEEL STUPID!
I thought his hat was his hair 😂
It didn't help that he was always scrawny, super timid, sometimes motherly, and that his voice was somewhat ambiguous. Now i'm not saying men can't be this way, but when we were kids this is what media portrayed as feminine traits more often than not.
Same
Nonbinary king 😂
So double D sounding like a guy and being referred to as he made you think he was a girl because of non-female headware?
The Kanker Sisters ares some of the most underrated yandere in all of media
I interviewed Matt Stone once. He helped me with a college paper on industry professionals. He's a great guy. Best interview ive done. :)
Meant to type Matt Hill. XD
So fucking lucky
I always saw may as the lesser of 3 evils, as the show did kinda reveal that without her sisters around she isn't that inherently malicious, when she's alone she's more of a nuisance than an outright bully. But when at least one of her sisters is there she cranks it up to match their level of evil. The Christmas special especially shows how naive and less evil she is, and that her behavior is more so just something that cam from her environment, not trying to call her good at heart just that she's probably the only one that actually benefit from some counseling or therapy if a redemption arch ever happend for her. She would never be a hero, but she might become an antihero at best.
Never really thought about the Kanker's liking the chase as much as the like the Ed's; but it does make since especially when the one episode where Ed, Edd and Eddy pretended to like them resulted in Lee, Marie, and May pushing them away, til the found out the were faking it.
Actually I feel Double Dee would have friends if he DIDN'T hang out with the other 2.
He would I’m pretty sure.
If That Actually Happened Then The Show Wouldn’t Even Be Called “Ed Edd N Eddy” & Wouldn’t Be As Popular As It Was Back Then & Still Is Even Till This Very Day If That Really We’re The Case.
My favorite part in the Edd, Ed, and Eddy movie was when the cul-de-sac gained up on the Kanker Sisters at the end of the movie. Yeah it was a minor plot point BUT it was pretty cathartic and showed they finally got some good friends to have their back.
I am surprised a lot of people thought Double D was a girl, I guess they missed the fact that Rolf called the Eds "Ed Boys" along with all the other very clear signs he was a boy, must be the voice, sounded like a girl so kids just assumed girl like I imagine kids thinking Frieza was a girl because of the voice, I think Team Four Star even made a joke about that.
I the original manga Frieza was a lady but changed in English dub
+Rebew Tinydino: uh no Frieza was always a dude. A lot of kids mistook him for a woman bc in the Ocean and Funimation dubs he had female voice actors. Also the lipstick
I did mistake Frieza for a Chick Zarbon too actually.
@@volespirit247 in at least 1 foreign dub Zarbon (& Dodoria) actually were made female. idk if any made frieza female tho.
I heard even general blue was made female in a foreign dub--prolly to avoid acknowledging he was gay, or just thinking he looked feminine--but when he got shirtless they had to switch him to male lol
Frieza not only sounded like a girl but had on lips stick and genuinely looked like one until he transformed
I admit I have a weakness for Marie and would like to imagine her as just a slightly more well-adjusted punk that could consensually get Edd's attention as an adult, obviously I realize she was a villain in the actual canon show. But what can I say, I'm trash for punk girls and fanon is free... XD
I just realized how this show went over my head demonstrating the terrifying part of the world with trailer park trash that exists. They made this seem like it was nothing but this happens all the time, some of our first adult topics introduced that today would be cancelled or ignored and it's no wonder kids are going to have to rely on our generation to explain this to them.
I never viewed the Kankers as love interests, more like brief antagonists. Like their mission is to cause chaos for the Eds.
I feel Marie is alot like Double D in the sense that she just doesnt seem as bad as her sisters. Like if they are all supposed to be reflections of the Eds then i think (logically speaking) that makes Marie the most acceptable or maybe the one that could improve the most. Same as how in some episodes of the show Double D is the one out of the three to be accepted sometimes by the other kids in the cul-de-sac.
Just a theory, and a bit of a hunch based off of some other fan material.
Marie isn't anything like Double D though. You see in the show that Double D cares but Marie was never painted in a light of outside of malicious and vengeful. I never got why people stood to stand by her to this day. She is an empty slate bully character that doesn't have any redeeming qualities. If you said MAY I could understand, but Marie. Marie would forever be a bully character that people only like for her outside punk image.
Which I can understand. Who doesn't like a punk girl aesthetics? But call a spade a spade. Don't pretend she something she ain't. You want a bully character that is sweet? Look at May. She actually has redeeming qualities that the show provides.
@@PocketLovings hell, even Helga is better!
@@PocketLovings Like i said just a theory.
But (imo) i feel like if we got more on the kankers and their lives outside of what they do to the eds, it would show that she tires of her sisters collective BS from time to time.
And i get what you are saying about may, but May is sweet because like ED she is a bit... simple. She is supposed to be the reflection of the loveable idiot.
@@darryljack6612 We can hope and theorize all we want, but I like to look what the show provides. It is headcanon land that Marie lives in tho lol
@@valentinkambushev4968 Fuck yeah Helga is better. Helga gets a lot of spotlight so Idk if that is fair. But shit she is a good redeemable character.
What you said about anime is so true!!! Like for some reason if the crazy person isn’t seen as a threat, they think it’s ok to just ignore their absolutely abhorrent behavior 😖
I need a whole review of Fistful Of Ed, idk why but scenes of Double D having a mental breakdown is weirdly addicting to watch.
I think the reason I loved the Kanker sisters growing up was because, as someone who also grew up as white trailer park trash, they remind me of a lot of people I hung out with back then.
They always seemed like the type of kids that would live down the gravel path from me and because our mothers would have been gossip buddies (and with a lack of anyone over the age of 5 to hang out with) me and my two younger siblings would have been obligatory friends with the Kankers.
Which I get sounds shitty with how they act in the show but despite that I always remember having genuinely good memories with those kids honestly, not that the sisters are good in any sense lol
Sarcastic Chorus: Surprised at how popular Marie got
Me: But are you really tho?
That's what I am saying !
2:45 and here I thought I was the only one that thought double d was a girl. I guess I'm kinda glad that I'm not the only one who was mistaken lelz.
But yeah going into topic the thing is they don't lose from time to time. I mean it's okay villain to lose, but to make it interesting let them win from time to time so that the people know why they're the Villains in the first place or key word threat to the main cast on why they were chosen. Other than that though I can see both sides of the argument but honestly they did it well enough that again you could argue they just wanna mess the ed's up mentally or just genuinely "showing affection in their own way" which I guess good job on the writers?
Pebble-in-shoe Ed would have sent the Kanker sisters running for the hills.
LOL I thought Double-Dee was a girl too! Just because of what kid me considered more feminine qualities (neat, orderly, smart, calm, and yes the hat/hair).
Shoutout to Rabbit, Piglet and Roo who I also thought were girls for years.
I loved this series as a kid and still do as an adult but the Kankers always made me uncomfortable but I guess that's the point. I keep thinking in my head "If they were guys would this be funny?"
I think he was trying to make fun of the double standard of "if a woman sexually assaulted a man, he either mistreated her in a way that led to him deserving it, was happy enough that he scored that he doesn’t care how he got it, or wanted it anyway & didn’t want to admit it", by making it clear that boys are just as uncomfortable in the event none of the above apply. Basing it on his own experience helps.
@@lyokianhitchhiker That makes more sense.
I'm really glad you are talking about this trope in cartoons, as I grew up, I felt pretty uncomfortable with those type of pairings and the fact that people considered them romance classics.
This is not healthy to expose kids to, learning consent is such a important part on a kids development as they grow up, and the fact that many cartoons disregarded such a important thing with their pairings dynamics is so messed up, but at least like you said, this show know the sisters's behaviors are bad.
I'm glad this has changed with new cartoons.
The thing though is that most kids wouldn’t model their romantic pursuits after something they’d see in a cartoon, especially with something as cartoonishly, over-the-top as Ed, Edd, and Eddy. Most of them have a clear understanding of the difference between what’s acceptable in reality and fiction especially as they get older.
Yeah but the video is defending them.
@@Gxylord That's where the parent comes in, people rely on TV to teach their kids when they should be doing it
New cartoons still suck tho...
@@timedfatality5511 well that's the thing I never lived in the 90s LOL I grew up with these modern cartoons and they're boring as fuck :D
I love that you mention how the universe of the show treats the behaviour mattering. I have a big issue with the mom/smart sister in most cartoons/sitcoms, because the show nearly always frames them as correct.
I had an evening of your videos today. This is amazing, thank you!
I just figured they enjoyed the chasing of Ed Edd n Eddy whether they caught them or not. For some people it’s really just about the thrill of it.
I remember in the Canadian squirter Gun Episode Marie said she loved when they freak out and run then proceeded to hog tie them while Ed pulled a Tree. Honestly I wasn't worried about the Ed's being bullied but more on why didn't Ed just swing the tree at them.
Any discussion on my childhood favorites, I'm down. That said, I never did like the Kankers but at least the show never tried to force me to. It's a slapstick show without being vindictive, and I dig it.
On the topic of this kind of writing, I still think Helga was the only character to pull it off decently, because we actually *see* her home life and we get a better understanding of where she's coming from.
Plus she does have relationships outside of her crush on Arnold. She has friends and over the course of the series she gets episodes focused on her and her troubled relationship with her family, particularly her near-perfect sister Olga.
I rambled because I love Hey Arnold! sorry. I view Panini as a dud in the oven, and I think the creator of EEnE did a good job on writing annoying bullies.
When a bit works it works. I appreciate you being able to explain why it works. That's a real talent.
Yeah... I definitely grew up in simpler times.
One of my favorite episodes of show was when the Eds gave the Kankers a taste of their own medicine, by basically acting the same way they did. Save the ending.
It seemse dEdddy eaened to b elesss scared in the Douvle D ius a thug episode
Part of why it worked was the fact that the eds never did anything worse to the Kankers than what the Kankers ever did to them. Presented under any other parameters, the Kankers would be seen as sympathetic, and the Eds would be seen as creepy predators.
I mean i always loved how the dynamic changed a bit when may started crushing on edd and it wasn't toxic.
I agree, they are almost like the Erinyes/ the Furies in Greek myth, used as a sort of divine punisher for the ed boys transgressions against the kids in the cul-de-sac. It's an old and well used trope unlike the "Tsundere" type
I think the reason Marie got so popular (besides the fact that most animation fans love punk/goth/emo/tomboy girls) is because she hit the sweet spot of being underdeveloped enough for fanfiction writers to do interesting things with her without seeming out of character and being developed enough to not be boring. With Lee being the face of the Kankers and May being the most innocent, they had a lot of screen time given to them compared to Marie (the plot of the valentine's special kicks off because May wants to show Ed romantic interest that doesn't involve physical harassment by giving him a valentine's day card, showing that she does have a crush on him), who's only real character moment outside of being part of the Kankers and being the one most willing to show backtalk to Lee was when she destroyed a speaker at the school dance in a fit of jealousy when she saw Double-D dancing with Nazz. As such we saw that Lee is a manipulative and sadistic monster who takes joy out of everyone's suffering, not just Eddy's, and that May is Ed but just a bit brighter and not as funny. Marie kind of became the most popular female in the show by default because outside of Nazz (who's personality is nice girl. She has her stern moments, but she doesn't drive any of the plots she's in, isn't particularly funny and is mainly used as eye candy. Not many fans like that kind of personality in most works of fiction so she was fighting an uphill battle from the get-go), she was the best option in a sea of trash. Lee's a sadistic monster, May is a diet Ed that isn't given enough screen time for us to see her complexities and Sarah is just the worst. Marie became the most popular girl in E, E & E because she had no competition, and I'm saying this as a fan of her. Also, she has the best character design out of all the female characters (no one likes polka dots, Nazz's lips look weird since the only other person that has them is Sarah, May wears a gray t-shirt which isn't that appealing to the eye and most people don't like people wearing dark pink)
Interesting.
Yeah because She hot, not in pedophilla way.
I dont mind dark pink. Where did you get an idea that most people like them
And i like polka dots. Why would you think no one likes them?
Could Just admit you dont like girly characters and only prefer punk rebel characters
I think the most concerning part is that in the 2010s, people all over DeviantArt seriously shipped them.
I shipped ed and edd with nazz
Duh... Its no different from rule 34.
@@corneliusdelasoto3955 rule 2000: if more than one of it exists, there’s a ship out of it.
i still ship edd x marie shipping doesnt have to make sence to have fun with it.
Eh, Its deviantart
"I always thought Double D was a girl"
THANK GOD I'M NOT ALONE ON THIS ONE! 😂🤣
My only other "thought they were a different gender" oopsie was Terk from Tarzan 😆🤣
I was always so confused on whether Terk was a girl or not as a kid.
I always thought he was an Asian dude. He’s smart and has a lot of pressure from his family to do well.
i always thought frieza was a girl when i was a kid lol
@@havefaith4382 you mean princess frieza
Me too LOL
2:48 you are not alone
Double D got the best looking one out of the bunch and it makes me sooo happy haha. They're teen girls and obviously horrible but still, they see the boys and their value
In the great hankypalu edd actually got with may and it kinda worked the two had actual chemistry and may is revealed to be a skilled alchemist I thought the idea was pretty cool on paper that maybe they are just paired with the wrong kankers
Okay, this video made the nostalgia hit me HARD. I loved this series when I was younger.
0:20 That fucking scene, my mental health and sanity as a kid, burnt to a crisp thanks to that "sole" scene
Eddy: Sucks To Be You Haha
Wasn't there an episode where the Eds deliberately use reverse psychology against the Kankers by reciprocating their 'feelings' and it freaks them the hell out? Perfect proof for your point that they were never actually serious about being romantically attached to the Eds.
There was yes.
@@thomasraines1396ehh I think Marie like Double D
Honestly had a crush on Marie when I was younger.
Same for a lot people really.
You are not alone. Lots of us have goth and punk fetishes thanks to the cartoons we watched as kids.
Who didn’t have a crush on her lol
@@valentinkambushev4968 the fact she was the most level headed cool and liked the nerd was cute
Marie was the cutest - the Goldilocks of the Kankers
I watched this so little that this video made me finally realize who's who of the Eds. Also, Eddy's "Hey there, camera" face reminds me of Jack's smile in Oggy and the Cockroaches' intro. Anyone else seeing it?
I missed this show, thanks for the nostalgia. Happy New Year. Among the characters from this cartoon, my favorite protagonist was likely Ed, the dimwit of the trio, while my favorite antagonist was likely Marie Kanker, the blue haired tomboy.