How to Govern the World in Eu4
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2023
- Today we embark on theory crafting an Eu4 Campaign where stack governing capacity. We will restrict ourselves to ironman compatibility, achievement support and no custom nations. Furthermore, I will be excluding the +20 gov cap you get per every click of the expand administration button, since that turns it into a reform progress stacking run instead. Certainly interesting, but also not what I was going for.
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Ryuku full core world conquest when?
Maybe in the AE reduction stacking video :P
Small addition; Ava shares the same missions. Therefore, it could be argued it is a way easier start since you're stronger, but you will have a truce for 5 years with Tangu if you break Tributary
Really? I looked through the game code and it said that the mission was for Tangu. So Ava has Tangu missions if that's the case :)
@@LemonCake101 yeah for some reason it's called Taungu missions,but are actually "Burmese" missions, used by Prome, Ava and Taungu.
However, Taungu is the most well known because of the achievement and the historic Taungu empire
Edit: iirc it was added to those countries in leviathan
@@fvux5393 Fair enough, thanks for the mini eu4 history lesson! I spent most of leviathan patch looking at other broken stuff, I will be honest
@@LemonCake101 That's fair enough, was an... Interesting patch. Looking forward to the next video!
@@fvux5393 interesting is definitely one of the words you can use to describe it, I will give you that. Thanks for your support!
Looking back, I accidently included the +20% gov cap from Administrative Ideas before I had it up on screen, my bad.
You also didnt add the +100 from Naples
@@thomaskuppers7253 Wait really? Oh dear, I even double checked in editing but ofc I notice things when uploading...
IIRC the mission that gives russia western tech also gives them the flag for cossacks like the teutons if they go for polish prussia. Also there is a mission reward for 15% increased gov cap as angevine england (which you dont need to form but it also has 15% instead of 10% gov cap).
Great work as always!
Ah damn, you are correct, just checked. That gives you Cossacks for a base +100 more, and Angevine England is an endtag hence you can't form Russia afterwards (and Russia can't form it back, so you end up losing some there.
@@LemonCake101 You dont actually have to form the angevine empire-nothing in the mission tree stops you from keeping going after the first mission that gives you the new mission tree, all you get from forming AE is the idea set and 20 dev, the same goes for GBR, so you can absolutly abuse their trees, for example for 0% autonomy half states.
The gov cap comes from 1 mission that gives you 3% gov cap per rank of admin advisor
GBR, not ENG is an endtag, but yeah I guess I will have to get a better look at the England trees again
@@laurinseidelmann6652 hmm will need to take a look at that mission, obviously +15% gov cap is worth looking into
Also you can form Poland and get the little kings uprising event for 100 gov cap and the imperial mission for Poland wich grants gov cap
There are end tag issues with Poland, I was initially routing from Lithuania for example hence ran into issues pretty quickly with things being endtags, but there could be options in Poland, thanks for bringing it up!
@@LemonCake101 Poland isnt an end game tag. Only Commonwealth.
@@mrmonokel2335 I know, I meant in terms of routing the other formables. I mean since the Russia route isn't actually a thing (due to the final age bonus being changed) the optimal paths is actually Lithuania -> Prussia -> LPC now I believe
Great video, always the worst feeling right at the border of gov capacity and then you have to wait for the next boost. Then again my own fault for playing as So into a Japanese pirate republic XD
'Oh I am under gov cap? Let me state half of China'
Stacking modifiers surely is crazy good in this game but some are more usefull than others to be fair hahaha
I mean, I run low on governing capacity a lot myself, so after making this video I will always bare strategies like revoking the HRE and forming Russia in mind now ;)
ayo, how about "how to become a gigachad negotiator" (stacking diplo rep)
btw thanks for your hard work, love to see how ur quality improves every vid, keep it up 💪
Thanks for the support! The diplo rep is on the list actually, I dunno if its clear from the videos but before I even started making them I stacked modifiers personally for fun, and dip rep is one of those I had from a while back. There have been quite a few updates since my last route, so it will need to be updated, but it is definitely on the list!
What about missionary strength? I once converted a Catholic province to Orthodox in 4 months by having religious ideas, an edict that increases conversion of heretics, inquisitor advisor, 100 patriarch authority, a basilica built in this province and many small modifiers, but maybe it can be made even better?
I did a run in SP stacking it like 2 years ago, not as a video or anything. But sure, would add to the list, thanks for the suggesting!
Btw geographically Bengal+West Burma (The area you mentioned at 6:10) geographically is about the same size as the North+South German regions
oh is it actually? I guess that explains the modifier buffs, but still one is significantly less effort to conquer in Eu4 then the other
7:03 Goddamn, you can almost state the whole of Florence with that.
I mean Florence is a pretty big state, maybe settle for something more reasonable like Sicily.
the hre tier 1 gov reform is +25% which should give you more governing capacity than 500
Yes: I wasn't aware it did that at the time of routing :( well spotted!
Hi, if I am correct, you forgot modifier from prussian mission for +10 GC, however it is nearly impossible to fit it with HRE stuff
yes - I did, I am looking at it in my script right now, I had it in, but I forgot to include it in the video! Yes it does make the routing harder, but it is possible. Add another 340ish gov cap after the end.
You can play as Ottos to have %100 governing cost reduction instead. %50 from town hall %20 from state house %20 from pasha and %10 from inf. ideas.
Yup, but that is province governing cost reduction, aka small government. I am going for BIG government here (aka I am stacking a different modifier)
IIRC the russian splendor ability in the last age was changed to -10 autonomy in territories in domination
Oh no, I was using the wiki, and it may be outdated... if thats true thanks for pointing that out. In that case, the Lithuania route is superior.
You should make a video of stacking warscore cost and warscore cost of another religions
I will take a look into it, its on my list!
eu4 is type of a game which gets crazy fun if any modifier maxed? no matter how compatively weak a modifier is
i once had like 250 chance of a new heir. I get one literally next mounth after dismissing previous
that is definitely a very obscure thing to stack!
I once stacked heir chance modifier to 120% had to wait 20+ years to get an heir.
A quick question - when you flip to Russian culture, don't you loose the bonuses from the Spanish monument? Or you just flip back?
Also - Indian estates can give up to +500 GC, isn't there any way to combine this with your combo?
The spanish monument requires the Spanish culture to be accepted, not primary. As for the Indian Estates, not really, they have a trigger condition tied to religion, and if you flip away from said religions you lose the Indian estates, I checked. Great questions though!
most monuments only require that the culture is accepted not your primary culture.
Including the governing cost modifiers, is it actually possible to do one tag WC and state everything?
In theory definitely possible, being a horde/aggressively exploiting development would also help.
If you form the US or be a former colonial nation, you can also build the white house which adds a -25% state governing cost. Combined with max courthouse -50%, the standard statehouse -20%(-40% on glass, gems& paper) + infrastructure ideas -10%. You're at -5%-25% governing cost, or the max cap limit of 1%. If I recall there is a total of about 20k dev in the entire world. So just with the standard 2k or so governing capacity limit, you can state the entire world. I think you can also do a similar thing with the ottoman interactions.
Yup, that's another way of stacking it, but indirectly I guess!
Have you watched the video by "the student" on how to get insanely powerful custom national ideas on Ironman mode? Basically start ast the the ottomans, then increase dimmi influence to the max and minimize their loyalty to the point of becoming disloyal. Reduce your tolerance of heathen and wait for a certain disaster to fire (it takes 5 years). Then just before the disaster progress is at 100%, save the game on a different folder and let the event fire. Once the even fires, you can play as the ottomans or the rebels. Choose the rebels and see their NI. save scum until you get the desired NI.
Ah yes classic, that's an exploit though in my definitions, so out of my personal allowed boundaries. In other news, if you are The Student reading this, do reach out to me, would love a collab ;)
@@LemonCake101 My definition of exploits is a little different it seems, but I am here man... :)
@@thestudentYT ayy he's here.
@@thestudentYT ah damn, I am big fan!
@@LemonCake101 I am happy to hear that!
yeah you should make a vid on Reform Progress
Its on the list, but this one did take a while on routing alone, and I think the reform progress will be worse
Doesn't Prussia have mission for gov cap or they changed it do u have to be in Prussian gov?
It does, and its on my script and was going to be included and then when I was recording and editing it, I missed it. No excuses, good job for spotting it!
I think you should have mentioned the states governing cost policy you can get with infrastructure ideas
governing cost is a sperate modifier, which can be stacked to 100% reduction to be honest, and hence I stuck with pure governing capacity for this video
Naturally the next video should be province governing cost reduction modifier. Not to be confused with state governing cost reduction. I once stacked so much state governing cost reduction modifiers that making full states took up less governing capacity than leaving them as territories.
Its on the list, dw!
You still didn't ad up Expand Administration. I know it's hard to calculate, but let's assume you switch to republic early, keep low autonomy and don't spend anything on reform, just expand administration after gaining innowatiness and infrastracture ideas
I mean I clarified that I didn't, because if you do allow it the actual 'meta' is to stay at 1 province republic, use a dodgy mechanic to enable crownland bs (to get 100% crownland for another 100% reform progress) get some more reform progress buffs and in my calculation you come out well ahead of the gov cap stacking here. It becomes a reform progress stacking video basically, that one mechanic alone makes everything else here mildly obsolete.
I don't know Taungoo has a mission tree....
neither did I until I found it by searching through the game code for gov cap, so your not alone!
If you trigger the dhimni estate disaster and choose to play as the nation it is possible to get +40% governing capacity in your ideas.
A 'The Student' Enjoyed? yes, you can do that, but since that involves real time file manipulation, I personally rank that in the realm of exploit and hence refrained from using it in this run.
The Russian splendor ability changed, it's -10% autonomy in territories now
Yeah, it is. In my defense the wiki is outdated (the place I start these routes) and its my fault for not double checking it inside the game. This means the Lithuania path into LPC is the best option in practice.
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I think u missed one significant thing. When u form hre u get new government reform. +25 % gov capacity. I think its better than Chinese one.
Oh do you get one? I never found it in game files and wiki, and hence assumed it didn't exist. Good to know, thanks for pointing it out.
@@LemonCake101 it was added in domination. They also added reform for rome and halifate.
Isn't gov cap reduced by things like Statehouses?
So the governing cost of a specific province/state can be reduced by statehouses, but that is an entirely different can of worms (if you include centralizing states its possible to full state WC using 0 gov cap if you get enough reductions) but that is not the focus of the video, the focus was on stacking governing capacity.
Doesn't forming hre doesn't change the goverment reform
I thought it didn't, but it does. Thankfully I am wrong 'up' in that it changes it to a +25% gov cap reform so you actually end up better off
8450 gov cap is still only enough for 2 lowland provinces...
or 1 province in Northern Italy, which if you take causes Ming to join a coalition
@@LemonCake101 good one. Btw, have you done an AE impact video? Might allow you to take 2 in northern Italy before the Ming stomp comes.
u didnt stack governing efficiency (the modifier that decreases the amount of gov cap each point of development costs you)
no - I specifically only looked at governing capacity in this version
Please max colonists and Max settler growth
Its pretty requested so its on the list, thanks for the feedback!
Stack all "May recruit female Generals" modifiers
It may be a bit too strong, female generals have way too much game impact, I would rather not unleash that kind of power into the Eu4 community.
@@LemonCake101 I want to see the world burn
cool
Thanks!
you cant be zorastrian and have the mandate of heaven, right?
You can, mandate of heaven has no religion requirements.
@@LemonCake101 aaah ok, i understand
@@KitiHey no worries, its a good question!
Taking mandate has a requirement (either Eastern or Pagan), so, no Zoro cant take it directly. You can flip Zoro after taking the mandate tho.
@@danieltakacs1293 Ah fair enough, wasn't aware. Still doable thankfully but thanks for pointing it out
Imagine not moving to the new world for the White Houses -15% governing cost.
Again, province governing cost = small government. We are here for BIG government (aka I am stacking a different modifier)
Well Zulu gives you +10% in national ideas, but you basically quickest get to start as an OPM vassal of Mutapa in 1452 it is less because no mixxions though.
Huh I thought going zoroastrian would kick you out of the mandate of Heaven because you can be only eastern or pagan religious group.
Hmm could also form rajputana to switch to Hindu tech groups for extra estates to give priviliges too.
Zulu does have +10% in national ideas, but so does the HRE, and Zulu is an endtag, which means you can't form other tags with it and tags like Russia (endtags themselves) can't form the Zulu. As for the Zoroastrian, you do need to be Eastern or Pagan to TAKE it, but you don't need Eastern or Pagan to keep it. As for finally the Rajputana, didn't know it changed your tech group and crucially itself isn't an endtag, so that's another +100 gov cap from estates, well spotted!
@@LemonCake101 huh had no idea Zulu is an end tag
@@LemonCake101 About the celestial Empire didn;t know that's really interesting then because that means you could have 7 estates.
5 indian ones, Enuchs and Janissaries if you first become celestial emperor in indian tech group and then turn muslim and form Persia - it switches out your governament but let's you keep Emperor of China and then Rum.
@@viorp5267 Persia is an endtag, as is Rum, so you can't do that I am afraid. Welcome to my world, a lot of fun things are stopped by being endtags. (ottos and Rum are both endtags hence no way to get Janissaries and form literally anything)
@@LemonCake101 They do ruin quite a lot of the fun :/
Miss the silly days where you could form Tibet as Ming
Do a Max Movement Speed one please. Full manouver and all that
already well ahead of you: czcams.com/video/B1cn1R95m2I/video.html
@@LemonCake101 thanks