The Lord and Lady Thatcher
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- Recorded on December 14, 2020
In 1997, Margaret Thatcher asked Charles Moore (also known as Baron Moore of Etchingham) to write her biography, under two conditions: that she would never read the manuscript and that the work would appear only after her death. Twenty-four years later, Moore has just published the third and final volume of Herself Alone: The Authorized Biography. In this conversation, Peter Robinson and Moore discuss Thatcher’s final years as prime minister and her life out of office. They delve into Thatcher’s relationships with the world leaders of her era, including Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev. They also discuss her image now, seven years after her passing, including her portrayal in Netflix’s The Crown. Moore points out that while the show gets many personal details about Thatcher correct, it takes massive liberties when depicting her relationship with Queen Elizabeth and her stewardship of many important events that occurred during her tenure as prime minister, including the Falklands War and the coal miners' strike.
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He debunks The Crown's season 4 lefty pamphlet about Thatcher so elegantly. Great man and Peter an all time favorite host.
@@smittycity42 no kidding. I was a big fan of the show, but was so disappointed by its blatantly partisan and negative treatment of Thatcher. The whole value of the show lies in its ability to tread the line between historical authenticity and drama, and they threw that all to bits just to score some wins against Thatcher. Easy pass for the future seasons for me.
Peter is by far my favorite interviewer. His conversational style does not preclude him from asking probing questions, but the result is a very easy to listen to conversation. This hour passed by so quickly, but they covered quite a bit of material. Mrs. Thatcher is a fascinating figure whose importance becomes even more apparent as the years go by. As an American who was in college when her premiership ended, most of my contemporary knowledge of her was limited to her appearances on the international stage. The first time I saw PMQ on TV way back when, I was shocked but thought it was kind of a sideshow. Now I realize what absolute command she had of that chamber, and have a better understanding and appreciation of her domestic policies, which makes her an even stronger figure in my mind.
I always feel more intelligent having listened to Peter and his guests...then I happen to catch but a glimpse of the mainstream media and I go right back to being dumb as hell.
I can't believe you 're including CNN in that !
That's why we ditched the telly in our house. I promise you Kritios, we don't regret it for a moment
There are few men today with the spine of the Iron Lady.
Been looking for a good set of books on the greatest lady in the last hundred years.
This interview was highly interesting, and helped me to gain some insight into the nature of this extraordinary woman. I was a young man when Mrs Thatcher came to power; she was a hugely dominant figure, who gave rise to strong and often conflicting feelings.
On Hunting at the end - so moving and thank you. These are dark times in which we are being invited to repudiate and courage like Margaret Thatchers is needed.
I was struck at how similar the Britain of 1979 is to the present situation in the US. Sadly, I don't see any Maggie Thatcher on the horizon.
The UK could use another Margret Thatcher.
God bless from America 🇺🇲
Wow you must really hate British people.
As always, it was a pleasure to listen to Mr. Robinson interview and the way he makes books and history come alive.
God, how we need Margaret Thatcher right now. We would NOT be in this locked-down viral mess with her at the helm.
Great interview, Peter. Uncommon Knowledge is one of my favourite channels.
Outstanding! On both accounts, great questions, to the man she trusted her legacy with. Very revealing, and with deference. Fascinating, as Americans we gloss over so much that is British and European. Reagan greatly admired her, perhaps her biggest fan. He wrote about his relationship with her at length. Her journey was truly remarkable, kudos to the man tasked with that enormous responsibility. God Bless Margaret Thatcher! Luv the pic with the daughter, always gracious.
Fascinating and inspiring & Mrs. Thatcher’s authentic leadership (woman or man) for The Common Good is much needed in this world in this era of flagrant government deceit, renewed socialist-marxist dispositions, melded w hyper-charged materialism & narcissism. All from the influence of Evil being denied as mythology & superstition. May Mrs. Thatcher Rest In Peace & be able to pray for us.
What a wonderful interview with this gifted English writer/speaker. I for one believe that you both made Mrs.(Lady) Thatcher proud. Oh would we be so fortunate to have such an executive female leader for our United States of America. The situation in 2021 looks grime.
Wow! I have got to read this book. I have such an affinity for the Brits, and she is as close to Churchill as anyone but the original. I would love to hear more conversations about her as well. What a great leader
Another outstanding interview Peter. Well done.
Very interesting discussion. Keep these interviews coming.
I know that she led Britain and set an example for the entire world with her controversial, iron strong leadership.
However, when she died, I was still astounded at the level of hate many people in Britain showed towards her. To this day, I don't understand.
Thanks for an outstanding interview.
This is like listening to NPR except the two people talking are actually intelligent rather than trying to appear intelligent.
Fabulous and such a timely interview/discussion. I found it very soon to be tear-rendering, patriotism-hiking, and fixed by the rigorous succinct explications of recent political history and of the Lady Herself. Utterly engaging interview by the dear man Peter Robinson and the mighty biographer Lord Charles Moore of Etchingham. I'm 72, a former RN who worked for a year in England and Scotland in 1975 - my impressions as i docked in Southampton and rode the train up to London were mainly about how green was the grass! This Australian was more used to red dust and light green, rather lustreless green generally. Then once coming to early terms of settling in such a once grand capital city as London i noticed just how gloomy or 'grey' so much of it was to me - besides being highly constrained fiscally, i did travel about the UK except for Ireland - i was not Catholic and felt afraid due to 'The Troubles', albeit i had sympathy with its sovereignty claims. As i recall when i went up to the Edinburgh Festival, watching parading Pipe Bands, standing by the Changing of the Guard, visiting The Tower of London and being photoed with the 'Beefeaters' and visiting a studio (BBC?!) show 'My Word' it was apparent that there was such a stark contrast between the 'old' and the then 'current'. So much tawdriness. I was a Melbournian by birth and training and used to strikes, especially the railways, throughout my youth and early adult life. That and then England led me to be more of a 'Conservative' even though i have flexibilities within that brand. I was also very pleased and glad that you included the late and 'great' Sir Roger Scruton and explained aspects of his stance. It was such a great and excellent i/v because it was able and deeply insightful as to how one person can be impulsed by seemingly contradictory enthusiasms yet which don't go overboard all the way, all the time - focus, diligence, humour and deeply integrated personal/moral 'grit' fashioned the amazing Lady that was Margaret Thatcher. Thank you so much for making me cry, nod, yearn, laugh and learn!
I’m from Southampton but now live in Australia
Wonderful conversation. Thank you for sharing. ❤️
Amazing discussion on Margaret Thatcher. Only wish it could have lasted longer. Honestly the best part of my 2021 so far.
These interviews should be longer. It's great
Yess !
Do you know of any other such channel which could inform me about Political Science and Economics ?
What a fascinating interview- so much insight into mrs. thatcher, and an interesting discussion of recent British, us, European history. Thank you, and I will buy the book.
Even most of the people watching come from the US, as a native German I also watch it.
Re Margaret Thatcher once Victor Orban, the MP from Hungary, told an anecdote how he met her.
And its good to know that it was Margaret Thatcher who pushed for the people in Easter Europe.
Wonder how long before this channel is banned
Hey aren't you on Our wyoming life too!? Lol I agree though!
Well, if that happens, it would be safe to finally pass the diagnose for the fall of the United States.
@@jbweld6193 highly unlikely, they’re not exactly extreme in any particular views on this channel.
I certainly hope not, if they start banning channels like this as well, I will have no reason to ever use YT. I hope the fight and less of revenue will cause them to step back, only time and good and decent society's response will tell the tale in the end.
@@fergal2424 doesn't need to be, I've seen it. However they're probably too credible.
Is it just me or is ol Pete aging like some seriously fine wine?
So true
It's about time this man got out of the house of Lords and in to the prime minsters chair.
Won't happen. Not allowed any proper conservatives in the conservative party.
An excellent interview on an excellent channel.
The only place left on youtube with couth. Thank you.
Very good in all aspects. Life recorded and recounted.
38:40 She is right on, she is speaking the Truth, applicable throughout the history of the world.
No, Jim Sillars was.
What a privilege...awesome discussion!
Look at Maggie in chamber.... then look at Nancy in chamber.... Words fail me.
At least she is not chewing gum and peeing in her pants when she is talk. Nancy cries for her "dreamers" whom she really hates but she wants to say she loves them.
Well done...
One of the greatest leaders of the 20th century. A remarkable life.
This is so exciting
How refreshing to listen to such erudite and eloquent speakers! However, in the written introduction above ".....In this conversation, Peter Robinson and Moore discuss...." PLEASE SHOW RESPECT - Peter Robinson AND Charles Moore or Lord Moore!!!!
Amusing to think that people here think she and the Conservative party where and are Conservative.
She was a Victorian Liberal economically and Libertarian socially and culturally.
She was completely oblivious to the Intellectual Lefts march through the institutions.
She was correct to take on Union Power but she allowed the loss of skills and manufacturing and opening up of Big Banking and Corporate power.
She encouraged rights over responsibility (rights where economic rights)
She was right to help stand against the Soviet Union and I agreed with the Falklands War.
But I return to my point
She wasn’t Conservative and neither was her party and the so called Conservative party definitely isn’t Now !
Enjoyed that
Why assume your audience is mostly American?
youtube stats will tell them the location of views, google is relay good at tracking info.
Because most people who talk here are from America and talk American politics, not all btw
I wonder what Margaret Thatcher would have done about modern feminism, woke politics, and mass illegal immigration?
She lived her life as her fullest and constant statement about all kinds of ‘feminism’. I expect her views on wok & cancel & race baiting & immigration & borders would be quite similar to our current Pres DJT.
I think we know. We wouldn’t be where we are now.
She didn't like feminism in the 80s. She thought feminists were claiming her victories as theirs. She achieved what she achieved on her own merit. Not as a result of feminists
What? She specified that she didn't see it and it only came out after her death?
Fuck, she really liked that "Iron Lady" moniker.
29:10 That someone was 'The Beast of Bolsover', Dennis Skinner - who remained in the House of Commons - and in 'his' spot in the chamber - until voted out in Dec 2019 - 29 years later. He had held the seat of Bolsover since 1970. Ironically he was a Labour MP who came out for Brexit.
And what's even more poignant, but I think often glossed over, is that she was fighting like hell for this house, and its counterparts across Europe, to retain its power and influence within its own nation.
29:12 It was Dennis Skinner.
Charles Moore - what a ghastly, self righteous individual
I check Audible, and there's no audiobook, of any of these volumes. Come on!
Love her; strong bond! Against socialism and communism
With all my respect by none of those who like to be called gentelman are even close to her heels .
She Who Must Be Obeyed and He Whose Name Cannot Be Said might well have gotten along professionally.
There’s only one lord.
Salisbury?
why don’t you discuss what is happening in this country?
Charles Moore .. the source of much misery in England
Maggie's in the mud!
First comment.
Staying away from current events huh?
Thatcher is dead
Well that’s not fake news - but it is old news.
Correct. Now your two times tables!
Ding dong, the witch is dead.
@@williamgibson2760 And it's most definitely good news :)