The WORST Mistake of Dave Krieg's Career | Seahawks @ Saints (1991)
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- In a 1991 game between the New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks, QB Dave Krieg got injured and suffered a broken thumb. Even though he wasn't playing by the time the end of the fourth quarter rolled around, he still cost his team the game, not by something he did on the field, but rather, by something stupid he did on the bench that resulted in an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. This is the story behind that mistake
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Best Seahawks uniforms. Much better than their current look which resembles a Trapper Keeper I had in 1988.
The 80's Seahawks uniforms are one of my favorite uniforms of all-time.
Their current helmet color matches the color of three-day-old goose crap perfectly.
@@lastguyminn2324 Is that the look they're going for?
I’m just lookin at those Seahawks uniforms wishing they’d use them again as throwbacks.
I wish they'd bring them back for good and toss those eyesores they wear now.
I always thought that from a far they looked like cowboys uniforms but with a green line. That’d be dope though if they bring them out as throwbacks.
Agreed
What Krieg was arguing was that the Receiver was forced out of bounds, which was OFTEN called in that era of football. You would often see Receivers whose feet would land far out of bounds, get the TD call. But this does not look that there was any valid push out so he was very wrong for arguing.
25 years later Russell throws to Jermaine Kearse in the back of the endzone, ruled out of bounds but there was an angle that showed it should have merited a look. So I don't think DK was wrong here.
Besides, this *directly* led to the shitshow of 1992. Have fun in hell, Behring
I miss those uniforms
I loved those Seahawks unis
Lost the game from the bench. That’s hilarious.
I remember this game. It was the last game I watched before going into the Army 2 days later
Did you get into wacky adventures with Paulie Shore?
@@ZDiddy7777 If I went in with Paulie Shore I would of shot him for being so annoying
He thought he could question the officials because he was a team captain? Did Dave Krieg think he was playing hockey?
I remember watching this game at 8 years old, as a kid in Louisiana. This was a great game
Dave Krieg was top 10 in every QB category. Should be in the Hall of Fame. Favorite moment Derick Thomas's seven sack game. Dave avoid number 8 and throws a game winning TD
That Saints LB corp is criminally forgotten by most, but four potential HOFers is amazing
I remember being a kid seeing him with that long thin pin sticking out the top of his finger. I was only 9 or 10 but I fell in love with QB play that day
Did you know that Dave Kreig had the most fumbles by a quarterback every year when he played. He had small hands for a quarterback.
I think that legacy was carried on by Daunte Culpepper after Krieg retired.
Small hand QBs = More fumbles. It's just simple physics.
Yes, used by the Behrings (who once told Cortez Kennedy to stop sweating and start shedding) as justification to let him go to KC and begat the giant shitshow of 1992
I sincerely hope Ken Behring enjoys hell and his no-talent son one day follows him
@@mgb4692 starting off 1991, by NOT drafting Favre... Oof... Then letting Mudbone walk, knowing there was NOTHING behind him for the 92 season... I second the sentiment you're feeling.
Go 'Hawks!
"Krieg drops back to pass...sacked...FUMBLE!" was perhaps the most common phrase used by NFL commentators back in the 80s.
For those of you saying he fumbled a lot, yes he did. If you handle the football on every play shit happens. He is in good company. 1st- Favre- 166, 2nd- Moon 161, 3rd- Krieg 153, 4th- Collins 139, 5th- Elway 137, 6th- Brady 129 and counting, 7th- Eli 125, tied for 8th- Bledsoe 123, Esiason 123, 10th- Testaverde 117, 11th- Roethlisberger 115 and counting, tied for 12th- Brees 111, Rivers 111, tied for 13th- Kitna and Marino. Fouts next at 106. All of these guys played 14 years or more. When Krieg retired I believe he was in top ten in almost if not all qb categories. One could argue a Hall of Famer imo.
Kasay has to make the kick.
End of story.
Krieg was probably arguing a force out.
I was going to say "Kasay should've made the kick anyway, 37 yards isn't that much harder than 22 yards" but I looked up his career stats and he was 144/147 (98%) from 20-29 and 143/160 (89.4%) from 30-39....so Krieg's penalty indeed significantly reduced the chances of the kick being made. It turned a 1 out of 49 chance of missing into a 1 in 10 chance of missing!
Fun fact: Robert Louis Stevenson originally wrote 'Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde' about Dave Krieg. Possibly the most maddeningly inconsistent QB I EVER saw.
Jim Hart was every bit as streaky. Both had great arms, but both could disappear very quickly, as well.
Also worth mentioning: Krieg fumbled a LOT. Not reflected in his QB rating, but a QB fumble is clearly usually even WORSE than an INT. At least an interception is usually down field.
Considering Dave Krieg was the all-time leader in turnovers when he retired, I'm intrigued about what constitutes his biggest mistake.
I was gonna say, considering his propensity for fumbling, "worst" covers a lot of territory.
Remember Zorn throwing six touchdowns in one game? Unfortunately three were to the other team.
@@klep2859 as he used to say as HC of TAFKAWR "gotta stay medium"
Dude was hyped up on Dilaudid
I remember watching this damn game. He can't fumble if he's not in the game so he had to do something!
His tiny, fumbling hands would have been such a meme if there was internet back then.
He was pissed cause he thought the DB rode the WR outta bounds- in '91 that would be a TD if they concluded that the only reason his feet weren't in bounds is because a DB pushed him out of bounds while in the air. I liked that rule.
I wonder what would've happened to the Seahawks if Dave Krieg didn't miss time after this game: I know it was the first game, but the Seahawks O was really rolling in this game against an excellent Saints defense, and offense for the Seahawks for the remainder of the season was tough to come by. What if the Seahawks make the playoffs, keep Krieg, don't have a 2-14 1992 Season, and subsequently draft Rick Mirer?
The Hawks wasted Tez so bad
In 98 they were *completely* better than the Donkos. Then James McKnight drops a GWTD in Pittsburgh, Moon gets cracked ribs, John Friesz gets picked off by Glenn Cadrez (seen 0:14-0:24), and the Vinny helmet TD. I'd put that front four of Tez, Sam Adams, Michael Sinclair, and Phillip Daniels up against the 2013 crew that decimated the Donkos any day of the week.
Sigh..............
@@mgb4692 It looked like the Seahawks were a team going places (both the 1997 & '98 teams flashed possibility), but a slow start & special teams let them down in '97 (only the eagles were worse in that area), and injuries, a sputtering offense, & bad breaks held them back in '98. I agree about the D-line, but I do believe the Broncos were the real deal as well.
They knew it wasn't like 97 when they came in and rolled the Hawks at the Dome though, that they were lucky to get out 6-0--Elway even said as much. That's why they were all celebrating Harald Hasselbach's hit on Moon that knocked him out (granted he already had the bad ribs from KC), cause Friesz had some early second half success, but they knew he couldn't keep it up.
What if McKnight doesn't drop that pass (Todd Peterson missed a tying FG)? Does the rest of the 98 avalanche happen? Erickson doesn't get fired, Holmgren doesn't come west, Pete Carroll (who benefited from a gift Terry Glenn first down the week before Vinnygate) might eventually show up, it was well enough years into the future. I'd rather see that video than Hart Lee Dykes or Roy Green
Having said that, 98 wasn't a total loss though. One of my all time favorite moments was Tez nearly running back a 90 yard fumble return against the Chargers, and he clearly ran out of gas at about the 30
@@mgb4692 That Sunday night game against the Chiefs was the season's turning point for them; tough to get anything going in that monsoon (the NFL used a shot of Derrick Thomas sitting on the field with water running all over him for their "Feel the Power" campaign"). One thing the 1998 Seahawks did consistently well was force turnovers and score on defense (I remember Darrin Smith being pretty awesome for them when it came to big plays defensively).
Still go with Pittsburgh cause even getting monsooned they're still going into to the Dome vs Denver 4-1 instead of on a two-game losing streak. I remember watching the Hawks flatten the Steelers their last trip into Three Rivers in 99 thinking "Where the hell was this last year?"
Rule was different then. Probably argued that the receiver could've gotten two feet down if he wasn't pushed out. Now you need 2 feet in no matter the circumstances. Still had no business getting a penalty there with his team on the 4 yard line about to win the game.
Regarding my views on things, you MUST know where, when and how I grew up: Born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American (showing HOW I grew up). I was only about 10 when Dave Kreig became our starter, so I wasn't as "wise about the world" at that age.
Thumb injuries are the worst! Never get rid of them they always come back. I’m sure most would rather tear the rotator cuff. Than deal with the pesky thumb injury.
The kicker missed a 37 yarder in a dome…that’s why the Seahawks lost the 91 opener!
Kemps father was about to be on the ballot for Vice President in 5 years
I was at that game
I think Krieg might have thought he was pushed out... remember it wasn't until 2008 that if a player caught the ball in the air and was pushed out the refs could rule that the receiver would have caught the pass in bounds if he wasn't pushed.... There's even a SB XVIl TD by Charlie Brown of the Washington football team against the Dolphins, that was counted as good....
This is the only conceivable argument I could see, and that's pretty slim too.
That really was the worst rule in the NFL. After a bunch of defensive coaches like Belichick Lewis Fisher and Tomlin and got on the rules committee they got rid of it. But being defensive coaches they also then instituted the new worst rule. If the receiver catches the ball has control both feet makes a football move scores a TD then loses the ball the TD doesn't count.
"There's even a SB XVIl TD by Charlie Brown of the Washington Redskins against the Dolphins, that was counted as good.... " There, fixed it for you. In SB XVII, the team that played against the Miami Dophins was the Washington Redskins. You can look it up. Just like the team that won the 77-78 NBA championship was the Washington Bullets, not the Washington Wizards.
I was at this game!
We use to call him Dave "Butthead" Krieg
indoors kickers fault, not Kreigs fault.
Krieg sabotaged that game because he didn't want it to look like Kemp came in and won the game.
HA HA, got jokes
Actually, I agree. Nobody else seems to be arguing it.
H-E-B-E-R-T, Ay-bare. It’s a fun name to say, try it.
30 Years Ago
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y do the Seahawks always get shit on?
Nahhh "Q", we've WON a Super Bowl, so can't say that; BUT, since February, 2015, good ol' Russ does most of the shitting on us(especially in these last playoffs vs. Rams, ughhh!)~truth!
Yep, tired of hearing this new lame media talking point that the Hawks are "wasting" him. Fuck that, they wasted Tez (never got to win a playoff game). Hell, these are the same jackoffs that ran the whole "game manager" and "not black enough" garbage. Yeah Russ these are your new friends, reminds me of the Cube video
The NFL did NOT like Seahawk ownership back then .
Pretty much that simple.
Apparently they werent freemason blood drinkers like Stealer and cowboy ( etc ) ownership was.
Just the facts.